Less than a month before Patrick Depailler was killed. Glad I was at Brands to see him, also saw Ronnie at Brands in '78, Gilles in '78, '79 Race Of Champions, 1980, 1981 at Silverstone
What a sad way to end a very good racing career, out of his last race because of a shit car that didn't do its driver justice. I think that hang gliding accident in 1979 eventually sealed Depaillier's fate
On 12.06.1980 my first son was born, and I named him Patrick... Only few weeks later the Hockenheim test from Alfa Romeo ended with his tragic accident in the Ostkurve... 🌈🏁 Salut Patrick ❤️🇨🇵💔
The real ground effect cars... with the good old skirts. zero ground clearance... you got to give it to them... the guys who built these things were geniuses.
This was a little bit before my time. It feels strange to see a Ligier leading the race. Just a few years later, they were a consistent back-marker team.
Amazing to watch these old races. Jones won the title with that Williams 1980 and Keke Rosberg again 1982. The most astounding thing is the pit crew and how amateurish and slow it looks even compared to the 1990's. Cheers.
Yeah. Money greed spoilt F1, like you I think brand hatch is a much more interesting track than Silverstone, in the early years it was held in Liverpool at Aintree
They also have problems with the people who have moved into the area. They complain about the noise. I think the other problem is that the track would need a lot more fun off areas and I'm not sure they have the land for that. I've only been to Brands Hatch a few times for the BTCC and Formula Ford festival. I think Russell Ingall was driving in one of he festivals so that shows it was a long time ago.
@66PHILB Trust me, as much as TheThirdMan has been around - Can-Am, USAC, WSC, etc., he knows what he’s talking about. I’ve been on with him with many discussions before, and as a “Yank” i can clarify that he knew more about Dan Gurney/AAR operations than I ever did. Anyways your point is well taken, with Rosburg & Mansell as being notable mentions, along with AJ, I was always intrigued with what I considered the ‘Boxer-Types’…. AJ, Mansell, Rosburg, and Rodriguez. They may have not been the most ‘absolute’ talented types, but once those mad bastards were within their rhythm, *there was no way in hell that they would be beaten.*
That was freaking awesome. I loved Hunt but at times he could be a real dick. Stewart put that young whippersnapper right in his place though and good!
JOEL SOUSA looks to have been well looked after. The image quality was always pretty good (unless you lived in america - pretty shit there) on the live broadcasts.
@@sugarnads Yes, well looked after. If you don't fast forward and rewind the tapes occasionally, the chart on the tape dissipates and you lose signal strength. Good thing they've digitised it.
Alan Jones was a superb F1 champion who deserves more credit. If younger F1 fans want to know about a driver who grabbed his opportunity with both hands and achieved his dream, then Jones is their man.
Jacques the son would have been 9 back then Gilles also had a brother Jacques but he didn't compete in f1 until 1981. I wonder if Murray knew either of them
11:22 "the tire jacks are being prepared...........Jackie?" Why did I laugh so hard at this..🤣🤣🤣 may as well go to the guy named Jackie when talking about jacks 🤷♂️😃
Jackie Stewart, following Laffite's retirement: "You can see how angry he is." Guy Ligier, meanwhile, must have thrown one of his trademark wobblies - *both* his cars leading comfortably before they suffered deflating tyres...
Weren’t Ligier the cars with the sideskirts (later banned) creating huge downforce through the suction that was created under the car (due to the skirts)?
@@garrycowan4747 Ligier were running an illegal mod under their car, something F1 illustrator Giogio Piola later revealed: th-cam.com/video/Z8zVD34wK-Q/w-d-xo.html
@@thethirdman225 it was brilliant for viewing, you could walk right round out in the country side, get good pics on practice day then try and find a spot on raceday amongst 100,000 fans
Chris Walker Looks like lots of good elevation changes making for good vantage points. I’d have wanted to be between Hawthorn and Dingle Dell for practice and Paddock Hill bend on race day. What are/were your favourites?
@@thethirdman225 I would agree, though Paddock hill bend was difficult to get a vantage on. Hailwood hill looking up was usually good and outside of Druid's looking from Graham Hill, I wish we'd had digital cameras back then. When the 935 porsches were in full flight you could get some great flameout shots. A 6hr sports car race gave plenty of opportunity for multiple vantage points. I think it's why I like Spa the best of the current F1 tracks to watch on TV.
Modern overlay with a caption that says British Formula 1 Grand Prix is totally anachronistic. There was no such thing as Formula 1 Grand Prix or Formula 1 championship until 1981 when Formula One was established as a trademark. In 1980 it only denoted the class of cars that competed in a World Drivers' Championship but not the championship itself.
Ligier was a pretty car. Damned cheek a french car with french driver using goodyears not michelins. Hella funny leyland truck parts sponsoring the ford powered williams.
I went skinny dipping at Road America with his daughter and her girlfriend. Both of them were very hot. I ended up dating her girlfriend for a little while.
Here in Yugoslavia we just started to watch F1 races in 1980. on our National TV. I wish I had a chance to hear someone like Stewart, Murray, Hunt being very new (or stupid) ini this sport. So were many in TV audience even in Britain.
Catch fencing was widely used in F1 in this era, the biggest worry was if a driver became trapped under the fence and the car catching fire as they did quite often back then. The wooden poles used to secure them were an issue as well with several drivers in lesser formulas being knocked unconsious by them.
Well there was a Jacques Villeneuve in the 80s - Gilles' cousin Jacques or "Jacquo" but he didn't too many F1 races - 3 to be precise - and never qualified for any of them but that wasn't until 1981 at least so this was a classic albeit slightly prophetic Murrayism.
@@marks_sparks1 Some cars were actually running _positive_ angle on the front wing. i.pinimg.com/originals/99/a2/4e/99a24e2b2b1b6c8a238091e3a69c597a.jpg
Those Ligier JS11/15s were so cool looking.
Always nice to hear the legend Jackie Stewart
Less than a month before Patrick Depailler was killed. Glad I was at Brands to see him, also saw Ronnie at Brands in '78, Gilles in '78, '79 Race Of Champions, 1980, 1981 at Silverstone
R.I.P Murry Walker the voice of formula one he will never be forgotten
1923 - 2021
Patrick Depaillier’s last ever Grand Prix, he was killed in testing at Hockenheim less than 3 weeks after this race
What a sad way to end a very good racing career, out of his last race because of a shit car that didn't do its driver justice. I think that hang gliding accident in 1979 eventually sealed Depaillier's fate
On 12.06.1980 my first son was born, and I named him Patrick... Only few weeks later the Hockenheim test from Alfa Romeo ended with his tragic accident in the Ostkurve... 🌈🏁
Salut Patrick ❤️🇨🇵💔
Pironi was tremendous - would've been 1982 world champion without the horrendous crash which finished his career.
The glorious sound of real f1
I was on the inside of Druid's for this race, honking away on the air horn when Jonesy came past on his victory lap. Awesome memories. 😎
I was there too, on the Saturday
The real ground effect cars... with the good old skirts. zero ground clearance... you got to give it to them... the guys who built these things were geniuses.
Love the cars of this era. That Williams car is a classic !
This was a little bit before my time. It feels strange to see a Ligier leading the race. Just a few years later, they were a consistent back-marker team.
Sadly this circuit was Patrick depailliers last before being killed in testing in hockenheim 3 weeks after the race
Amazing to watch these old races. Jones won the title with that Williams 1980 and Keke Rosberg again 1982.
The most astounding thing is the pit crew and how amateurish and slow it looks even compared to the 1990's. Cheers.
The day the Gotti wheel rims wrecked Ligier's dream of a 1-2 finish
Che tempi! ! A partire dal sound! ✌️✌️✌️
Brands Hatch is a nice-looking track, reminds me a little of Spa. Too bad F1 doesn't race there anymore.
Yeah. Money greed spoilt F1, like you I think brand hatch is a much more interesting track than Silverstone, in the early years it was held in Liverpool at Aintree
its a great track with undulations up and down with sweeping corners. Lower teirs still race here which is good.
Unfortunately, I think part of the reason was the lap times ended up being too short for F1
They also have problems with the people who have moved into the area. They complain about the noise. I think the other problem is that the track would need a lot more fun off areas and I'm not sure they have the land for that. I've only been to Brands Hatch a few times for the BTCC and Formula Ford festival. I think Russell Ingall was driving in one of he festivals so that shows it was a long time ago.
Allan Jones was so aggressive. A great driver, he regretted very much retiring at his peak.
With the possible exception of Niki Lauda, Jones was probably the hardest man ever to strap a Grand Prix car to himself.
That sounds almost obscene
@@thethirdman225 Don't forget Keke Rosberg or Nigel Mansell.
@@66PHILB I didn’t.
@66PHILB
Trust me, as much as TheThirdMan has been around - Can-Am, USAC, WSC, etc., he knows what he’s talking about. I’ve been on with him with many discussions before, and as a “Yank” i can clarify that he knew more about Dan Gurney/AAR operations than I ever did.
Anyways your point is well taken, with Rosburg & Mansell as being notable mentions, along with AJ, I was always intrigued with what I considered the ‘Boxer-Types’…. AJ, Mansell, Rosburg, and Rodriguez.
They may have not been the most ‘absolute’ talented types, but once those mad bastards were within their rhythm, *there was no way in hell that they would be beaten.*
I like how Hunt and Stewart were bickering about being able to see a deflating tire.
That was freaking awesome. I loved Hunt but at times he could be a real dick. Stewart put that young whippersnapper right in his place though and good!
Great quality for a 1980`s tape recording!
JOEL SOUSA looks to have been well looked after. The image quality was always pretty good (unless you lived in america - pretty shit there) on the live broadcasts.
@@sugarnads Yes, well looked after. If you don't fast forward and rewind the tapes occasionally, the chart on the tape dissipates and you lose signal strength. Good thing they've digitised it.
Actually this footage is not from a private tape. It's from the BBC original source that were used by ESPN Classic channel a few years ago.
- Grid order graphic appears on screen
- Cars line up where the Hell they like in completely non symmetrical car park
Classic times, love it!
Was thinking what the hell was going on there... seemed to be a case of as long as you're not ahead of the car in front start where you want 😂
They should really do this again, that'll help neutralize the issue of cars being on the dirty side not being able to have a good start.
Outros tempos era garoto e a fórmula 1 era sempre a hora do almoço saudades!
I was born on this very day 13th July 1980
Harish Save you for am go be infant.
Amazing circuit!!
still got the race programme
Alan Jones was a superb F1 champion who deserves more credit. If younger F1 fans want to know about a driver who grabbed his opportunity with both hands and achieved his dream, then Jones is their man.
11:10 Murray almost said "Jacques Villeneuve" instead of "Gilles" 😂
I miss Murray so much...
Jacques the son would have been 9 back then Gilles also had a brother Jacques but he didn't compete in f1 until 1981. I wonder if Murray knew either of them
He went to say jaques laffite
James Hunt was muted in this race...
I think at 15:00 Laffite gave a signal to the pits that he was going to do one more lap before going to the pits - one lap too many....
It looks so much faster
The 3 best F1 commentators ever!
Plenty of experience with James Hunt and Jackie Stewart - 15 seasons from 1965 to 179, 37 victories and 3 World titles.
4 world titles
+crusherbmx,
My mistake - 3 for Stewart (1969, 71 & 73) and one for Hunt (1976).
Don't forget the great Raymond Baxter
Hunt saying only change the two front while Stewart saying it made sense to change all four. I wonder who was right. I favor Stewart
craig kleber can see points in favour of both.
I was 11 and TV was Black & white at home !
Me too
Oh lol I found one over F1 Ligier car JS11 right? and I have old F1 car Transformer call " Mirage" 😋 Thank for your show me is great!
Hello friend, do you happen to have the Brazilian Grand Prix of 1973, 1974 and 1975?
Sorry, this video was taken from the F1 Archives blog and sadly that website no longer exists to check what other videos they have.
They have a f1archives Vimeo account though. Doesn't have what you're asking for but there's 200+ videos on there, so it might be worth checking out.
Congrats Alan Jones! and luck next time Laffite, Villeneuve (RIP) and Pironi (RIP)
12 Cylinders I ask you, what a sound ! Flat 12 Ferrari !
11:22 "the tire jacks are being prepared...........Jackie?" Why did I laugh so hard at this..🤣🤣🤣 may as well go to the guy named Jackie when talking about jacks 🤷♂️😃
Damn Walker Stewart and Hunt!
Jackie Stewart, following Laffite's retirement: "You can see how angry he is."
Guy Ligier, meanwhile, must have thrown one of his trademark wobblies - *both* his cars leading comfortably before they suffered deflating tyres...
3 punctures in 1 race for Ligier... I'm sure it was one hell of a wobbly...
Very bad lucky
The team had just switched to lighter Gotti wheels and they proved fragile.
Williams, Brabham and Ligier, the big three of 1980 - pity that Ligier never won a championship.
La verdadera F1
Right on.
think reason no races at brands hatch any more so little if any run off areas
c'est vraiment dommage pour un tour de trop de ne pas finir le GP Jacque!!!
Not a bad duo of color commentators to have. :)
Natsukashi zo.
Bumbed out for Pironi...
I was there that day.
Weren’t Ligier the cars with the sideskirts (later banned) creating huge downforce through the suction that was created under the car (due to the skirts)?
All of the cars were having skirts, area of the wing cars.
@@garrycowan4747 Ligier were running an illegal mod under their car, something F1 illustrator Giogio Piola later revealed:
th-cam.com/video/Z8zVD34wK-Q/w-d-xo.html
First F1 race I went to
and the last one I went to. I prefer sportscars and rallying.
So you are a newby then.
Depallier´s last race.
Basically, the race started, lots of drivers got out of the race, and then somebody won. Just kidding. Great era for F1.
Best recap ever.
And a well deserved win, because that somebody crossed the line first.
Brands Hatch > Silverstone
Brands is a much more interesting circuit but you probably couldn't race F1 there any more.
@@thethirdman225 it was brilliant for viewing, you could walk right round out in the country side, get good pics on practice day then try and find a spot on raceday amongst 100,000 fans
Chris Walker Looks like lots of good elevation changes making for good vantage points. I’d have wanted to be between Hawthorn and Dingle Dell for practice and Paddock Hill bend on race day. What are/were your favourites?
@@thethirdman225 I would agree, though Paddock hill bend was difficult to get a vantage on. Hailwood hill looking up was usually good and outside of Druid's looking from Graham Hill, I wish we'd had digital cameras back then. When the 935 porsches were in full flight you could get some great flameout shots. A 6hr sports car race gave plenty of opportunity for multiple vantage points. I think it's why I like Spa the best of the current F1 tracks to watch on TV.
Modern overlay with a caption that says British Formula 1 Grand Prix is totally anachronistic. There was no such thing as Formula 1 Grand Prix or Formula 1 championship until 1981 when Formula One was established as a trademark. In 1980 it only denoted the class of cars that competed in a World Drivers' Championship but not the championship itself.
The Formula one world championship started in 1950. end of.
Ligier was a pretty car.
Damned cheek a french car with french driver using goodyears not michelins.
Hella funny leyland truck parts sponsoring the ford powered williams.
Ah but Frank's cars always carried COSWORTH on the cam covers instead of FORD even before the Leyland deal.
2 weeks Before depailler crash😟
I was a big Derek Daly fan
Yeah same here..i allways support the underdog..and was a nice man to boot..
I went skinny dipping at Road America with his daughter and her girlfriend. Both of them were very hot. I ended up dating her girlfriend for a little while.
R.I.P.
Patrick Depailler
Gilles Villeneuve
And at least four other drivers that took part in this GP.
Bad lucky for Ligier team... Their tyres didn't permit them to get the victory.
It was actually their wheel rims. They had recently switched to lighter Gotti rims and they proved to be rather fragile.
nice to see the Alfas up front... for a while...
Depailler’s last race. :(
Is Murray still calling Argentina the Argentine? Apparently it was part of the reason the Falklands War began
What utter rubbish.
Stewart was undoubtedly a legend, but never worked for me as a commentator. Talks to the viewer like they're stupid
Here in Yugoslavia we just started to watch F1 races in 1980. on our National TV. I wish I had a chance to hear someone like Stewart, Murray, Hunt being very new (or stupid) ini this sport. So were many in TV audience even in Britain.
That was because he was used to comentating to an American audience in Indy racing.
ウィリアムズ、アラン、ジョ…ンズですか懐かしい、今ともう、この頃は変わりませんね。形はちょっと違うけどウィング
とか、あまり変わらん音も速さも、
So, they did not see an issue with drivers getting whacked in the head or decapitated by the chain link fences?
I don't want to frighten you, but do you know that one day you'll die like everybody else ?
Catch fencing was widely used in F1 in this era, the biggest worry was if a driver became trapped under the fence and the car catching fire as they did quite often back then. The wooden poles used to secure them were an issue as well with several drivers in lesser formulas being knocked unconsious by them.
Marlboro
Dunlop
Renault
Ferodo
Motor
Shell
Honda
Texaco
Duckhams
Candy
Evening News
Autocar
Talbot
Motorcraft
Elf
NGK
Olivetti
Longines
The point of that is what ?
How can you compare the shit-storm that is the current F1 to this?
Sadly, this era was the beginning of the stupid rule changes.
Like what?
@@jk844100 Look em up. I'd be here forever explaining them.
johnny lightning you’re the one making the claim the rules are stupid; I’m just asking for an example or two.
@@jk844100 Like I said, just look em up. There'll all listed online. I'm not gonna spend my time explaining when you can search for yourself.
johnny lightning yeah but I don’t know which rules YOU find stupid. I can’t read your mind.
At 11.11 did Murray actually say, “there is Jacques Villeneuve??
Spooky. 😃
Well there was a Jacques Villeneuve in the 80s - Gilles' cousin Jacques or "Jacquo" but he didn't too many F1 races - 3 to be precise - and never qualified for any of them but that wasn't until 1981 at least so this was a classic albeit slightly prophetic Murrayism.
He'd been talking about Jacques Lafitte just before. A simple slip of the tongue. Very easy to do and live TV takes no prisoners...
TheThirdMan that makes sense.
has anyone notice that half the cars have got NO front wing ? I thought by this era they were a well established body part
This was the ground effect era. The downforce generated by sliding skirts was so great, some teams chose not to run a front wing on the cars.
yeah basically the whole car was the front wing
@@marks_sparks1 Some cars were actually running _positive_ angle on the front wing.
i.pinimg.com/originals/99/a2/4e/99a24e2b2b1b6c8a238091e3a69c597a.jpg
Is it me or when Gilles came into the pit did Murray nearly call him Jacques... Was Jacques even born then? Prophetic by Murray maybe?
Just a stumble. He'd been talking about Jacques Lafitte just before then. Live TV is unforgiving.
Jacques was already around back then, aged 9.
Of course, there's also Jacques Snr, Gilles' brother.
I noticed that RIP Gilles. Peace from Montreal
Alan Jones un sorete
Didn’t realise how much Jackie Stewart speaks more technical bollocks than David Coulthard does ……….. makes sense their both Scots