Buy these 5 Cheap Muscle Cars While You Still Can!!!! This Market is NUTS!
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- The classic/muscle car/Hot Rod market has gone insane and it's nearly impossible to find a good cheap project car right now! I've got some picks that might be some of the last affordable buys, and they all have massive potential! Let me know what others you think are a good buy in the comments! Thanks for watching, and don't forget to like and subscribe!
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Dude, that intro about crypto had me rolling. Sad part is how true it is never mind how much people are wanting for clapped out cars right now. Keep living the good life.
Idiot money!
I was dying too, man that was funny. Sums up how I feel about the whole thing as well 🤣🤣
Don't pay it. I bought my primered running driving 71 nova in 96 for 500 dollars. Prices have shot up because guys my age are willing to pay big bucks for them but they didn't give two shits about them cars years ago when they were cheaper and in better shape.
Same same...🤣
@@BruceLee-xn3nn its not young guys driving up the price . Its retiring boomers , and even genXers . They want the cars they had , or dreamed of having , when they were in high school .
And there's MILLIONS of buyers , but only hundreds of thousands of (drivable) cars . So , simple supply and demand , demand is up and supply is down .
Supply ISN'T going to go back up (the number of cars being restored is not greater than the number that , sadly , get trashed) and demand isn't going to drop off until the last of the genXers have died off (30 more years , easy).
So prices aren't going to significantly drop anytime in the foreseeable future 😢
This is why I come to Tony's channel. He is a wealth of knowledge about how to go fast for a reasonable price. Thanks Tony! I miss you and Lucky's show, but hey there's always re-runs. 😆
0:19-1:36 is THE most accurate economic description of today's marketplace.
Good list. I think you can add the Corvette C4 to the list. Still affordable, fast, tons of parts available, handles great. Under appreciated imo.
Agreed. I was looking for a running driving project car in early 2020 to keep me occupied while the world was shut down. I really wanted a 3rd gen F-body but couldn't believe how much prices had come up. Even worn out v6 cars were bringing more money than a C4 Corvette.
Eventually I found an 85 Corvette with less than 60,000 miles on it for $4k. I put over 5,000 miles on it in just a couple months.
What an awesome car, I didn't plan on keeping it but it is a blast. I have gone absolutely overboard and now have a bit of money tied up into it. All new suspension, interior, swapped the 700r4 for a ZF6, Dana 44 swap and hope to build a stout SBC for it next year.
Now with car prices going insane, even "undesirable" early C4s are starting to rise in value.
Agreed. That’s what I did. Not a ‘muscle car’ though so that may be why he didn’t mention them.
@@One_Shot_Garage It's a ton of car for the money, and even with rising prices a good value. The later 80's and early 90's C4s are still genuinely quick/fast and can really scoot with a few dollars thrown at them.
Buddy has one, ugly but a super fun car
I would also add 1971-74 Pontiac Ventura. It was essentially the Pontiac Nova, so maybe it fits in the last slot. But it came standard with Pontiac 350. Not the most desirable motor, but a 350 Chevy is an easy swap. My cousin bought one cheap a while back with a Chevy motor. Since it's basically a Nova I assume motor mounts and trans mounts can easily be swapped.
You need to start putting out more content on anything the more videos you put out the more views you will get you should do a video about part shopping and ways to find great deals
Duuuude, parts shopping at a real live Summit racing store! Since I'm aboot many hundred miles from the nearest location, id love it!
Local smaller parts stores, especially some of the old school, smells of petroleum solvents and stale cigarettes, gruff but massively knowledgeable store owners/operators.
Heck, do some grassroots vids about less known drift tracks/locations where policing might be less than aggressive.
.......borrow stubby Bob and attempt to not break it en route to the 3-4 shift....
I think the "other g-bodies" would've been good too. Even a Malibu 4 door or early hatchback cutlass would be a great car. My personal choice would be a 78-79 grand am coupe. El Caminos and Monte Carlo's are getting higher. Same for any of the Luxury coupes. Ex: Cutlass Supreme, Regal, Grand Prix. Any of the wagons would be fun but they are drying up.
How about Colonadde cars, 76 Grand Prix variety? I have a 73 Grand Am I'm slowly building.
Mak VII’s and 300c’s are luxury cars that can rip….nothin’ better than a fast couch for a daily in my opinion.
Mark VIIs are SOOOO COOOL...and they came with the DOHC Cobra motor...the only thing they didnt have was a stick
@@Arthagnou It wasn't the same as the Cobra motor, but was "most of a Cobra".
Guys. Mark VIII's (8) came with the DOHC 4.6. Made from 93-98. The Mark VII's (7) were usually 5.0 HO's and made from 83-92.
For the same reason I have a fusion sport for a daily.
I love the Marks- both platforms. Outside of Fox coupes I think these are my favorite on the platform!
I've been championing the disco novas for years now and everyone looks at me like I'm crazy. They also had sisters in the Olds Omega, Pontiac Ventura, and the Buick Apollo. My dad had an Omega, and its the car that got me into cars as a Lil guy.
I’m sitting on a pile of desert metal for those cars. Nearly unsellable no market for the parts!
I'm a 4th gen Fbody guy. Prices are climbing on them too, especially if it's a 6 speed car. Another car to consider that I own if you want to be different is the Lincoln Mark 8. I have a 98 and I love it. It gets more attention than my 97 Trans Am.
My first car was a '95 Mark VIII LSC that I picked up for $900 with failing air springs and a misfire. I threw some spark plugs, wires, and T-Bird springs onto it and it made a fantastic daily until I got a 300C SRT.
I recently picked up an LT1 Roadmaster as a project too. The trick is is to find a 94-96 with the offset mechanical fan; that's the Tow Package with HD cooling, FE2 suspension, and a 8.5" Posi.
Yeah, the Mark VIII is a hidden gem. Lot of them have been harvested for their engines though.
It’ll all crash this fall/winter when dealer stocks come up again.
@@316Autos you gotta know where to look. There are still some really nice Mark 8s out there you can pick up for under 5 grand.
@@nickjurgle7131 I know, I sold one. 96 LSC, 88K miles on it. Kinda wish I didn't, but I had too many cars at the time.
Good advice all around. The 4th Gen is a great deal and easy to tune/mod. And the early Mopar LX platform is good stuff…just kept in mind they are much more costly to upgrade versus a GM product. Good vid! Keep up the good work 😎
Also [for me anyway] the S10 having been originaly built as a disposable/snap-tite vehicle, there is no mod that approaches regret: hack it up, and have fun. It's a great starter platform anyone can cut their creative teeth on. Those new to it all? Just build the power train rear to front when you figure out what motor is going in: diff, transmission, then the motor. Building front to back can hurt the wallet in sudden and unpleasant fashion.
On the Novas.....Like the fox body platform there are many more options. Oldsmobile Omega, Buick Skylark (I think) and Pontiac had a version.
So it was Nova, Omega, Ventura and Apollo (Which spells out N-O-V-A) and yeah they are all great.
@@StayTunedTA Also the first gen. Monte Carlos. A good friend of mine that watches the car hobby like a hawk watches a mouse. Just told me yesterday that he is starting to see them going up in price. Because like you said first gen. Camaros and the first gen. Firebirds are now bringing stupid money. IMO. people who invest in the crypto/bit coin stuff are gonna lose their ass if they are not careful.. As long as they print paper money that's what I'm gonna use. I'm glad you got away from motor trend. It really sucks what they have done to car magazines and all of the good people who lost their jobs right before the holidays.
@@StayTunedTA i saw a 75 nova with a 71 front end before.
@@StayTunedTA that was only on the 68-74. (And in 1974 , not all X-body Pontiacs were Ventura , as "GTO" was a separate model , not a trim level).
In 1975 , the Buick version became "Skylark" (Buick's last year of the A-body Skylark was 1972) , also in 1975 , only SOME of the Oldsmobiles were Omegas , as base models were "F-85s" , and in 1977 , the Pontiac version became the "Phoenix".
@@Richie_the_Fixer Here’s the rundown on non-Nova GM X-bodies:
Buick X-body was the Apollo for 1973-74. In 1975 the 2-door was the Skylark and the 4-door was the Apollo. For 1976-79 the Apollo name was dropped and they were all Skylarks.
Olds X-body was always the Omega
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Pontiac X-body was the Ventura II in 1971, then the II was dropped and just became the Ventura. In 1974 only was the GTO based on the X-body platform but there were also Venturas in 1974. In 1977 there was an optional package called the Phoenix which was a high-end Ventura. For 1978 and 1979 the Ventura name was dropped and all were called Phoenix. You can tell a Ventura from a Phoenix by the headlights. Venturas had round headlights, all 1977-79 Phoenix had rectangular headlights.
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4th Gen El Camino is a good find if you ask me! Often overlooked. I picked one up for $1500 near no rust rebuilt the SB400 that was in it and it's a ripper.
I had a '75 as my first car, pulled it out of a field for $500. Originally had the 400 small block but it had a thrown rod. It was painted up kind of Cheech and Chong lowrider style, but also sort of drag race hot rod at the same time. Already had a tonneau cover, Cragar Keystone wheels and air shocks in the back, it was a pretty fun car, I got in a lot of trouble with it when I was a kid.
All g bodies are still affordable. What do they call the gmc?
Caballero
I had a 73 SS years ago, GREAT cars and overlooked but most of the mid-late 70's cars are overlooked. I have a 77 Buick Skylark now and bought it 15 years ago from the "little old next door", literally, with 57k on the Odometer with a 307 and 3 speed auto trans for $800 and have daily driven it since. It has been garage kept it's entire life and other than a a good clean up it was ready to go, this summer i'm going to pull the engine and trans for a full rebuild and do some major clean up on it, I'm going to pull the suspension and clean it up and paint it black and put in new bushings and pull the Landau Top off, repaint the roof and recondition the rest of the paint, it's White now with the white landau top and I'm going to paint the roof the Dupli-color ready to spray purple color and put a vinyl purple pinstripe on it, just to be different, I got the engine and trans rebuild kit for $500 combined, bushing kits cost me $270 plus several cans of black spray paint, All in i'm at less than $900 in parts and supplies.
Constructive feedback for you Tony, as a guy who has been following you for years: invest in a good microphone. Audio is arguably more important than video quality these days when most phones can now shoot buttery smooth 4K video, so audio quality is a huge differentiator now with video content. The bad audio sticks out and will cost you viewers and hurt your chances in the algorithm in the same way that a slow loading website will cause people to click away and cost a website crucial SEO exposure.
I’ve been waiting for you to go solo for a while because I’ve seen you do some really incredible stuff with these old cars in the past on Hot Rod and some of the Motor Trend content and you’ve always been great on camera and a fun watch, so know my feedback is coming from a good place and hopefully it comes across that way.
P.S. if you’re not on Patreon by now, get on there. You could charge people a dollar a month and just sit down for a Q&A session once a week just to talk shop with your supporters and that would make it more than worth it for everybody involved. That’s microphone money!
P.S. if you want to come to Tulsa to wrench on a one owner ‘73 Vista Cruiser that still has all the factory original stuff still on it that I’m slowly working my way through to address, come on down. Plenty of gasket leaks for the both of us. Ha!
I couldn't agree more! he just needs like one or two high quality external mics, his video quality and editing are already up to snuff, once he dials in audio quality it will for sure help get views. My most liked comment on a BoostedBoiz video was a compliment about his audio quality and how well he balances voice, music, and loud engine audio, viewers and fans really appreciate good audio.
100% agree with the s10. I'm biased though because I still have mine which I got 20 years ago as my first car. Another point for the s10 is that if you get one of these and you get bored and want an older car, old 50's truck cabs/beds can be bolted on to the s10 chassis with aftermarket kits. I'm currently dropping a cut up Hudson Super Jet body on mine (a bit more welding involved).
I had a 1987 Ford Thunderbird 5.0 as a first car. It was such a comfortable car on the fox body platform. It also ran a detuned 5.0 which can easily be modded. It's nice seeing you point out these adjacent cars. I have started seeing more Fox Body Mustangs drop into the project price territory (but they mostly aren't running) Great list Tony!
Fairmonts!
Just sold a 92 Tunderbird with the H.O. 5.0. Those years also had IRS.
@@stretch44875 You stop it. You can't find a bargain on monts anymore.
My first car was an 88 Cougar with the 5.0. Loved that car. I kind of want one to ls swap now.
Buy you a roller coupe, wait until around Christmas when people need money.
Great list! The “other” fox body is brilliant
An '80-'82 T-bird or Cougar would be an interesting build.
C10s are underrated cuz people insist on a perfect shortbed. Ive bought at least 10 of them in running shape for less that 2000. And they're easy to shorten and stuff horsepower in.
80-86 shortbed f series are underrated too. A lot of them came with a 302 or 351 and a 9-inch rear. Cheap little hotrods in the right hands.
@@offhandacoustic im a chevy guy no doubt, but a decent little f series can be had cheap for sure. Not that I want one but I dont blame anybody who does
@@WillyG3234 Had a 74 C10 for a few and have an 81 short bed f100 now. I only sold the 74 because an old friends Dad died and his Dad had the same color and year c10. Wish I never would've sold it. He totaled it.
@@offhandacoustic im selling most of my stuff to buy a 70 satellite but im sure ill regret it before too long too
Great piece and great advice. Really enjoyed it.
Got my 88 IROC 5.7 TPI 700R4 for $4500 needed a fuel pump, 96,000 kilometers on it runs amazing.
As far as LX cars go I would go for a magnum over the charger or 300c because wagons are rad
I own 2 out of the 5. Does this mean I'm cheap? 🤔
I'd add the first and second generation Dodge Dakota to this list... first Gens are the lightest and the final ones had a 318 already in them. Second Gen Dakota R/Ts are great foundations for a build too with their 360 Magnum engines and tough mechanicals.
Runner up: 2000's Dodge Magnum R/T wagons. Mechanically identical to the Charger but way cooler looking.
I have to second the Dakota R/T! From 98 to 03 they had the 5.9/360 Magnum as you said, factory lowering springs and a 9.25 rear with a 3.92 LSD, and even a quicker ration steering rack than a regular Dakota. Dodge marketed them at the time as being able to match or out handle a BMW 328i. Plus, Holley now offers pretty much everything you need to swap a modern hemi into one. These trucks are awesome for the money, with a few upgrades, but no one remembers them because of the Lightnings and 454ss'.
End of Rant.
Exactly! I love my 2000 R/T.
I also came to add the Dakotas. Already have an extended cab R/T and I'm buying a RC R/T this weekend. But the non-R/Ts are probably the better choice now with all the Holley Hemi swap stuff. Just buy a roller or a V6 truck and swap in a 5.7L Hemi for cheap and you're already at least 100hp up on the R/Ts even if you use the early 5.7. Or skip to the 6.4 and you're at nearly double the power.
I agree with the Dakota, but I don’t see the RT for under 5k anymore. Decent ones I see are more in line with first gen lightnings in price.
@@banditone00 Buying one Saturday for $3.5k with 95k miles on it. Nearly all stock and that includes a 2BBL M1 and a steel cowl hood plus a bunch of other parts tossed in.
I just picked up another Camaro, a 96 Z28. $2,600. Not a bad deal.
One of my friends has an 80s thunderbird. I never really cared for them until I saw his. It’s actually a really nice car with a factory E6 headed EFI 302.
Hey Tony a V8 powered Ford Ranger can be a great option as well over even an old Ford Ranchero from the 70s (like 70 to 74) would be a great option as well. If you really want a V8 powered RWD vehicle for dead cheap then look for a Ford Panther Platform cars (Ford Crownvic, Mercury Grand Marquis, and Lincoln Town Car) from 1992-2011 create you're self a extremely cheap fun hotrod since it came with a 4.6L SOHC 2V Modular V8 that's bulletproof as hell and cops 👮♂️ loved em so much they refused to die and Ford made a billion of em in St.Petersburg Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 you can do a Coyote swap (out of a wrecked 2011-2017 Ford F150) in one of em and have you're self a one badass Crownvic or Grand Marquis that can take a 392 Hemi Chargers and Challengers like nothing for cheap.
Cleetus bought all the crown vics in America didn't he? 😄
Plus one for the panther. Grand marquis especially.
Cool but not really a Musclecar. Also, who want's to look like a cop?
My rural mailman likes his Crown Vic..
NICE My Car made the List. I got a 76 Chevy Nova it's on my Channel. Built 350 with 4 speed Muncie. Going to the track soon. Fun Muscle Car for the money.
Can't forget the G-bodies! Cutlass/regals are some solid platforms too 👌
For sure
I thought they were A Bodies? Thinking of the 70s to 80s Olds 442s, Chevy Monte Carlos, etc ...
@@seanthompson8071 starting in 78 they were "A bodies", but when gm rolled out the new fwd cars in like 81 they changed to "G bodys" and the new fwd cars got the A body designation. Mechanically they are identical.
Ok , here goes :
Beginning in 1964 , the midsize GM was "A-body" . For 1968 , A-body was 112" wheelbase and 4 doors/wagons were 116" wheelbase.
BUT , the 1969-72 Grand Prix , which had the same suspension components as the GTO/LeMans/Tempest , was built on an extended 118" wheelbase and given the designation "G-body" .
For 1973 , Grand Prix reverted to the same wheelbase as all other A-body colonnades , and was so designated .
The A-body designation continued through 1981 , even though the 1981 models received the updated (coupe only) redesigned body with new roofline , B-pillar , doors , and quarter panels .
The G-body designation began in 1982 , even though the body and chassis were identical to the 1981 models .
Honorable Mention:
4th Gen Mustang
Any G-Body
Any Gen El Camino or Sprint
1974 and up 2nd Gen Camaro
3rd gen Camaros
1974 and up C3
I bought my 5th 1974 Nova SS almost 3 years ago for $1500, 4-speed, no engine, never wrecked, never repainted, but rusty. It now has a 409 cid sbc (400 +.040”) and a fine-spline M21 Muncie.
In January of this year, I scored a 1997 camaro SS with a blown engine for $1600. The car is beautiful, just needs the engine. It is a 100% original, clean car and I can’t decide whether to rebuild the engine to stock specs or build a 383 (matching numbers be damned!!)
This hobby isn't fun anymore. Everything is priced so high it makes no sense to build muscle cars anymore. Nothing but overpriced junk out there left to build. I am selling everything - I'm out.
When I read the title of this video, my first thought was my current daily, an 06 Charger RT. I am not a brand biased guy in any way but what I did was go on marketplace and search for a RWD, V8 car that will hold my entire 5 person family, for under $5000. My Charger was $4900. I daily it, it gets 21 mpg, and it's fun to take the kids for ice cream. Just like you said, a cam, exhaust, and ditch the cylinder cut out and it's a fun ripper. However, TOO HEAVY! But it kind of has to be for what it is.
They are heavy but power has never been easier to make (up for it). Fun fact, all the hellcat is was an answer to the weight problem these cars were strapped with.
I agree with you saying just add power, but I come from a background in air cooled VWs and saving weight is always a great idea because our drivetrains are extremely weak. My all motor bug runs 11s all motor, but it only weighs 1400 lbs! I am new to going fast while weighing 2 tons!!!
@@HellmuthsHotRods Very true but hard without just gutting the car. Body panels are already paper thin, someone from the factory told me they have 400lbs of sound deadening alone when all added up, also chassis components way beefier than need to be.
Tony, I would think the Disco era F-bodies might still be semi affordable, the ones with the big ugly bumpers. Nobody likes them, but all F-body goodies bolt right on them.
I’d also throw in the sn95/new edge mustang and even the s197 now. I’ve seen some GT 05-09 s197s for 5k that look like crap but run good
Hey stop that sn95s suck… dont spill the secrets got my last two for $1000 each. Only problem that you won’t find one that hasn’t been modded poorly by somebody on the cheaper side.
SN95 and New Edge are the new Fox, they are limited with a 4.6 but that is easy to swap once a kid has some time and uses it as a vehicle for a while.
2011+ Chevy Caprice PPV (cop car)! 6.0L LS. Essentially a budget Chevy SS. Not $5k, more like $8k but still, one heck of a value.
Personally, I'm looking at the 2015+ Charger Pursuit. 5.7L Eagle Hemi but with AWD. They are around $12k and up. Oh so sexy.
LOL at “thank you Freiburger.” 🤣 But honestly, it was Bullitt, Dirty Mary Crazy Larry, and Dukes that did it. And double honestly, the car itself created its own high value… the lines and drivetrain are still incredible 54 years later.
The 68-70 Charger was easy to find up until the late 90's. Long after those shows and movies. I would argue Fast and Furious is what made them become collectible. MAYBE the Duke of Hazzard reboot movie and MAYBE Blade.
Don't know if you have checked prices on a ws6 trans am but they are well over 10k for a decent one.......don't forget about the dodge dakota rt most clean ones are expensive but you can easily drop a 5.9 in a regular sport dakota and make your own rt
Fairly accurate “appraisals”, although….. only for south of the Rust belt/Bible Belt.
It almost always boils down to chance. Having an immediate resource, a diligent eye and constant availability helps, but that’s rarely what lands a “killer buy”.
Rust free first gen s10 go for considerably more in the North…… like, twice your estimate. They’re getting harder to find with so many having their frames donated to custom trucks/etc…..and having to drive 4-5 states away just to LOOK at a potential purchase adds to the final costs.
Great content on the channel so far, Tony!
Keep’em coming!
I agree with the s10's, those guys have been coming up in value pretty quick in the northern states, ive been looking for a rust free extended cab for a while for less then $3500 and havnt had any luck in the last two years
The drive though is part of the story of the build..... My grandson and I drove from where we live in Missouri to North Central New Mexico (14 ish hour drive) to buy a 1980 F-150 that I bought for $1300that ran and drove and has very little rust. All in including the hotel stay over night the trip cost me right around $1900 but I'm not going to find a truck around here for $2000 and if i did it's half rusted away and would cost me another $2000 to repair/replace the panels that are rusted away, Plus it's a memory with my grandson that neither of us will ever forget, I bought it for 2 reasons, 1st I needed something reliable to drive this summer while I'm redoing my 77 Skylark and 2nd It will end up being my grandsons first vehicle, I'd rather have him put a couple grand into cleaning up the truck that we have a story with than spending 5K on a rusted out 1990's Honda shitbox that's going to last him 6 months before it falls apart. Yes it's going to need some things but he will be 13 in August and we have 3 plus years to do the little stuff that needs to be done to it. It needs new body mounts for sure and the suspension will get cleaned up and repainted and new bushings put in, the 302 that's in it will get rebuilt along with the transmission and probally a new paint job when it's all said and done but that's nothing that we can't do in the garage. My point is that even by driving 4 or 5 states your going to get a MUCH better vehicle to start with which will save you money in the long run because even though you have the "added cost" of going to get it but it will be cheaper in the long run because that's less money your spending to fix it.
Dig around the Southwest and the Southeast. You'd be amazed at the wonderful high res pictures you get when you throw the seller $50-75 whether you buy it or not.
🤣🤣🤣 naw bro the cheapest one of all the one you just listed is about 10k for a p.o.s,,, trust me VA car market is insane
Great vid guy and I agree with all of your choices for the most part, But I think that you left out an important choice- the GM G-Body cars. Yes a ton of them were abused on the dirt tracks around the US, but there are still a TON of Montes, Grand Prixs, Cutlasses, and Regals out there for the taking. And they will fit any engine you want in them. While I'm not about to swap an LS motor into my '87 Buick Grand National (Why would I want to make it slower? Lol), I would love to pick up a Monte or Cutlass and swap in a junkyard 5.3 LS motor and have a ton of fun with it. Thanks for the fun video!
Glad someone else was thinking G body! Working on an ‘86 Cutlass of my own. Stuff is still pretty cheap. 👌
You can't Touch a Gbody in Ohio that's not wasted. Snatch em up, bring em here. Love them, still looking...
@@chopdogrulz1337 86 is my Favorite Gbody.
Tony, love your stuff.. you need a mic and a good camera... Please please please. Look up dankpods and he shows off his setup. Iphone and a nice mic, and get a nice desk setup for commentary videos if you want to keep doing these because it does make a difference in viewership and growth
I had a wicked 76 Dodge Dart Sport years ago that I built on the cheap. New paint Black on black perfect interior. Bucket seats, console. Rebuilt 318, big cam, 340X heads, intake, headers etc. Torque flight with an 8 3/4 out of a Challenger with 391 gears and a 75 shot of NOS. Great looking and ran like a scalded ape. ❤️
No one seems to do this but my '99 Camaro SS is an awesome drift car. Has probably over 10 events under its belt in the last year without any issues. Got it for $4k too.
Flippers are a huge problem, something decent comes up at a reasonable price and 5 days later its up for 2 or 3 time more.
Doing full restorations aren’t profitable. Flips are the way to go
you see something,you need to move and not procrastinate....good deal today is gone tomorrow
Don't hate the player , hate the game .
If some fool wants to put something up for sale for a 1/4 of its market value , why WOULDN'T a knowledgeable hobbyist snap it up ?
But flippers aren't the BIGGEST problem , at least they put the cars back on the market .
The REAL problem is the VULTURES , who recognize that many of these cars (like V6 3rd gens) are worth more dead than alive , since body parts and interior trim fit the performance models , so they strip em down and part em out 😢
Love my 4th gen f body. Got a 2000 Z28 for 3500. Still getting offers for much more.
Good video. I personally like the 300C idea. Also, you should make an "import" car list for those more into autocross and drifting
Could definitely do that, the import market is a trainwreck as well but there's plenty of hidden gems.
@@StayTunedTA as far as imports I feel the last heavy hitter icons left that were reasonably priced are z32’s and 3000 VR4’s
@@drechsla VR4s are pretty pricey now.
I like that you crossover between the traditional muscle and imports. Traditional hot rodders might not appreciate them, but cars like the Lexus SC 400 and the 03-04 Infiniti M45 both have great styling, reliable V8 drivetrains and are available for relatively cheap
@@mikegillam1000 Both of those are GREAT cheap cars with huge potential.
Great video! I still have my high school cars, glad I kept them!
I saw you on a couple of the roadkill episodes - much respect to you for the work you did during drag week and on the stubby bob truck. I also really enjoy your sense of humor. Please just keep being yourself and make videos of what you are doing and what YOU like. Maybe it's just me, but I'm interested in what different people are into. It makes me think differently and I like that. Thanks for the videos!
what about 76 to 80 aspen or volare
I agree with you on the S10. It's kind of a guilty pleasure for me cause most people I know think it's dumb🤣 3rd gen F bodies are going up fast as well but there are still some decent options out there for 5k or less
It’s a shame, always wanted to buy a trans am GTA.
S-10s are hot right now, and so is the Ranger. My son just sold his 2000 S-10 for 7 grand! He paid 1500 for it two years ago.
yep,grabbed one 5 years ago
well its a trans am but i also parted out a soft gta and threw all the goods at the t/a
Fantastic choices Tony. One of my favorite vehicles of all time was our 1985 extra cab S-10 2.8l 4 speed shop truck. I honestly used to flat tow my 1969 Nova SS to Thompson Drag Raceway with that little brute.
Engine purred for 140k, until my first wife blew it up
Dude on TH-cam built a killer Fox Body Thunderbird 5.0😎👍for cheap!!
The magnum, Charger, and 300c are all the "same" car. Also, the Charger was a cop car. And a lot of them had the 5.7 with some "cop" upgrades.
List makes perfect sense, with one addition if I may, a third gen F body. Great handling as OEM. and excellent third party upgrades / support. Enjoy your channel, look forward to future episodes.
3rd gens will always bring twice the money as a 4th gen.
@@kennydemartini2169 That's true because - "You can make a third gen fast, but you cant make a catfish beautiful" LOL
@@davebarron5939 look again at a 95-97 Formula convertible (without the ram air hood - those scoops suck) and you'll see beauty in that bodystyle.
That 97 convertible has world-class supercar styling . Put it next to a 10-years newer (2007) Maserati Spyder , and almost all the lines are the same !
@@Richie_the_Fixer No disrespect intended, i simply point out (for me) you cant beat the 3rd gen looks compared to the 4th. I do respect the 4th gen performance platform.
@@kennydemartini2169 That depends on what you find and what model it is.... I see base Gen 3's with the 305 and auto trans just about everywhere for 1500-2500 bucks. Your not going to find an IROC, SS or Trans Am for that.... but a base model is easily had on the cheap.
Love your videos and can't wait to see what you do with the channel. But for god's sake, please straighten your photos.
You mentioned the charger r/t specifically simply for the factory hemi. Keep in mind the LX chassis is still in use with the current charger, 300, challenger. That same gen also had the magnum. Many have the 2.7, 3.5, or 3.6 V6 but get one and run it till it blows and slap a 5.7, 6.1,6.4 or even a hellcat into it
@working_country ___ The 300 is 100% still being made. The current platform is descended from the original LXs, but was never as heavily Mercedes derived as people like to claim.
@working_country ___ You're free to go buy one, definitely not fleet only. The configuration thing is still up if you want to look through it. They did kill the Journey, 200, Dart, etc. though.
yeah,hellcat swap should be cheap 🤣
Seen a Dodge Magnum wagon with a Chrysler 300 front clip on it, definitely was cool looking.
Picked up a '75 Nova a few years ago. Fairly rust free, and already had a 6.0/4l80e swap done. Paid ~$5K for it.
"a few years ago" so now its worth 3x as much? Thats the whole point of this video
@@fossilfuelenthusiast you can still find them for under $5k, just not likely to have an LS swap already done.
These a Pontiac ventura of same year just down the road. Probably get it cheaper than that
@@BruceLee-xn3nn Pontiac Phoenix too. In 1977 the Phoenix was an option on the Ventura. For 1978-79 the Ventura name was dropped and all Pontiac X-bodies were called Phoenix. 1975-79 GM X-bodies also include the Buick Skylark and the Olds Omega.
@@NovaResource never heard Phoenix before. Just don't see many of any of them.. And there were hatchback models of the nova in 70 or 71 but older guys would say that they just weren't popular.
I'm a big supporter of the truck platform . They are very easy to work on. You can learn so much about the basics and branch off into learning about mods with these things.
All three companies have a ton of possibilities.
Crypto and NFTs are about as reliable as the safety of a collision between a Ford Pinto wagon and Pontiac Fiero
I saw an 80's Thunderbird in a grocery store parking lot this week. It looked brand new. The thing is, it's the first one I've seen in years, maybe decades. I think they're pretty rare in any condition. I haven't seen a 4th gen Nova in a long time either.
I've got a 93 gt fox and a 89 Lincoln LSC. I see fox mustang all the time but my Lincoln,i rarely see another one.
@@BruceLee-xn3nn Oh, I love those badass Lincolns.
You're in "the salt belt'too huh?Everything is either new,or rotting.
Great list but what about Corvette C4? Crazy value-for-money.
Love your picks Tony…I think you nailed it. F body’s are appreciating quickly, as are the Fox body cousins. A clean Nova or an S10 with a SBC or LS would be an awesome toys. Looking forward to your next video!
Its too bad 4th gen novas are so ugly.
The only block chain I care about is the one connected to my engine hoist.
Heck yeah! A 1982 S10 with a 350 was my first vehicle (bought it at 15), and now I've owned it for 21 years. You're right, they feel like muscle.
Agreed, people seem to forget about trucks period when it comes to the "muscle car" discussion. I would throw the 7th and 8th gen (1980-1991) F150's and Bronco's, and the 1st gen (197-93) Dodge D150 to that too, yes they are often built into a jacked up off road vehicles but they made a 2wd street version too and were a really good base to build a Muscle Truck with and they are everywhere and can be bought running and most of the time tagged and registered for around $1000-$2000 because everyone wants the 4wd drive versions, noone wants a 2wd street truck with a 302/318 in it, they want the 4wd drive with the 340/351/Cummins diesel in it so you can buy for next to nothing.
@@TheREALOC1972 That's great if that's wherever you are. In my area that's not true at all.
@@trumbley22 Yes it is, you just gotta look for them, they are going to be in someones field or garage and aren;t on facebook marketplace, Craigslist or E-bay, but they are there, I promise you.
@@TheREALOC1972 The trucks you mentioned in my area didn't survive without massive amounts of rust. No, I can promise you in central Alberta that they don't exist, especially not at those prices.
@@trumbley22 I can assure you there are, some old farmer's got one or 2 tucked away in a barn or a pole barn somewhere..... You just have to look.
Hey TONY! Really enjoy your video! I am glad you pushed 4th gen Camaro! The one in my garage probably doubled in value since you mentioned it! HA! It will soon be the next unaffordable rod.
Great list, agree 100%. I always loved early 80's Oldsmobile Cutlass, on the lookout for one now for my new daily driver.
cutlass,regal,monte,grandprix are all sweet as long as they are the 2 door,rwd version
Agreed @cuda71 and @trilleif. I'm 47yrs old. Had a '76 Monte and a '78 Monte. Grand Prix's, Regal's and Cutlass' were the go to machines. 350's were plentiful and cheap.
I bought a '96 Z28 in great condition with a manual, leather, T-Tops, discs all around and 77k miles from the original owner last year for just under $6k. I've been getting offered $10k+ left and right lately, I guess because it's a manual and basically stock. So yeah, buy 'em now, folks. Prices, even on the LT1 cars like mine, are going to get stupid.
Also, good call on the '06-'10 Charger R/T... the two most reliable cars I've owned: '07 Charger R/T Daytona and an '06 Magnum R/T.
Love the show ! Great content! Miss watching you and Lucky on HotRod garage !
4th Gen. F-body. FOR THE WIN! :)
ps- love the content, Tony.
Hell yes on the 4th gen Nova! I've had my '76 for a few years now, have a mildly built 350 with a Holley sniper kit in it, 200-4r and 3.42 posi in the rear. Thing is a ripper and I'm less than $10k into it.
I just sold my 78 loved that thing, they're just better Camaros.
Great info video.
I'm liking what you are doing with your own YT Channel. I stopped it with Motortrend a few years ago. I just couldn't anymore.
Much better content you are doing here.
Keep it up and best of luck.
Awesome. I have a 87 and 95 s10 standard cab shortbed.
If you want a fox body with some extra comfort, the 1983-1986 mid sized LTD was also based on the fox platform.
I picked up a 1972 Buick skylark for cheap. It’s not a super cool muscle car but I’m working on it and I hope to make it fast some day.
I had a 70 skylark. Did a decent sbc Muncie 4 speed and 12 bolt .. also did fiberglass bumpers which I thought was cool. I did it up in white and black no chrome anywhere. By far the most fun car I’ve ever had. Like an idiot I sold it in 2017 for $7500. Haven’t seen a cheap one since.
Hack the planet! Great Hackers reference editing crew. ;)
Great piece Tony
I purchased a cool 78 two door Nova a few years ago. My car buddies thought I was nuts. She's been sitting in my yard waiting for some love.
The part about the 8 tracks made me laugh 😃
When I switched over to cassettes in my car about 1979, I sold 48 eight track tapes...two cases and the player for $10. bucks for a tank of gas.
Lol
Good list, Tony.
No mention of Maverick/Comet?
Maybe not so easy to come by, but can be had with a 302 and weigh under 3000lbs
8"rear end can take a fair beating as well.
Pretty much my entire channel is built on the LX Hemi platform 😂 Still cheap for right now!
A Fairmont wagon would make a great sleeper.
What about G-bodys and Mercury Caugar
Pretty cool. Some of those would make some brilliant sleeper vehicles.
Yeah, I've always had a soft spot for sleeper Fairmonts with big Windsor power.
Pretty much most american cars from the 80s-present are totally uninteresting. 80s-90s it's the Japanese cars and 2000s+ it's german. Nothing American thats affordable is worthwhile aside the Corvette. I think there is a lot of cope with american cars from this period. The 80s stuff is absolute garbage but people are nostalgic because they didn't know cars in high school and thought these piles of garbage looked cool. The 90s stuff are lesser thans than anything else any other manufacturer makes. The 2000s+ stuff are heavy cars for morbidly obese boomers. 4th Gen Nova is the only good thing on this list lol. The more modern Camaros are a bit more interesting but, again, fat. Fat size, fat weight, fat looks. Americans the people and americans the cars turned into Honey Boo Boo. You can pick up a Torino for the price of much of what you list. This amount of cope though is why trucks became popular. Some americans will avoid good cars so much they will buy things that are even bigger garbage in a $10,000 rusted out S10 than spend $3000 on a clean E36 BMW that you can also LS swap.
You gotta do an 8track review now. Get weird with it.
I bought my 97 T/A almost 14 years ago, modified for $5,000.00, it was and still is to me the most beautiful car I've ever seen, over the years I have more invested in it than I'll ever get back, but it shouldn't be about money, is it the fastest thing on the road?, no, but I've received numerous compliments on it over the years, it is rock solid, only comes out on the weekend and hauls ass when I want it to!
Thanks Tony! Real glad that you're getting after your own channel. Also thank you for summing up NFT/money/crypto in the best way possible 😅
Btw all those boomers with cars die the cars go on
The late 70's malibu's should be on that list also.
Had 76 Nova SS-Black with Red interior, cowl induction hood scoop, LT1 (400hp++), 12 bolt 4:11 posi, TH400, subframe connectors. All built in the high school auto shop. Back when schools taught you something useful.
I just took a quick look, 4th gen Nova's stock are North of $10K, at least in Canada.
On the LT1, my older brothers friend pulled it out of his Camaro and replaced it with a 302. Needless to say, my Nova would pull him light to light.
Loved the intro! Glad I am not the only one thinking that way about today's market!
As a Firebird fan, especially 2nd gen, I have always thought the 4th gen Firebirds and Camaros were the least appealing as far as looks. But having said that, I would certainly buy one at the right price. And now thanks to Tony, the prices are just going to go up lol.
LT1s are uncool- small oil passages on purpose
I LOVE this list. Being poor myself Ive always been on the look out for these types of cars. Buy them BEFORE they become cool!
Great list, The Nova/Nova clones and S10 are great vehicles for the list. To add to the Mopar list, don't forget the Magnum, my brother picked up a Hemi powered version for 2 grand and it was a riot!
I have a 1975 Chevelle coupe, which I got for really cheap, and swapped a vortec 5700 into it. Purists may say that doesn't count as a muscle car, but it sure feels like one to me.
i love that era of chevelle..i had a 72 but always had a soft spot for the next gen,good looking cars
I have two on your list. Funnest one to drive is my 96 ram air firebird. Cool car.
I just saw one out on the street, they are super rad.
what kind of beer you drinking
Back in 2001 I bought a 1990 Ford Mustang LX 5.0 5 speed Coupe for 750$ lol. It was a bit ragged, but I kept it running for another 5 years. That's a HUGE amount of value. Can't find them like that anymore. I like your list, though I'd probably add the Dodge Aspen/Plymouth Volare to your list. Yeah, I like the Darts and Dusters better too, but the Aspen/Volare can be had in really good shape and in sports trim (Aspen R/T or Volare Roadrunner) for the same price as a Slant 6 A-Body. Great value imo, and it's a Mopar. Can't really go wrong with it.
I was glad you mentioned the s-10 platform, frame is a little narrow and exhaust is a pain but they are great. You should do one on foreign muscle...
had a 92 S-10 v6 4x4 extended cad should have never sold it. 80 Malibu Classic, 88 4-Runner, 89 Toyota 4x4, 79 Firebird, 78 Nova, 84 Monte Carlo, 86 regal, 87 Iroc, 86 K5 Blazer holy shit WTH is wrong with me 😭😭😭😭
4th gen nova!! Heck yeah! Great list man. S-10 is a great option too. 3rd gen Camaro isn’t a bad way to go too. Nicer IROCZ’s are on the rise right now but you can still find some rougher rs and z/28 examples that would be great to just hammer on. Great videos, great channel, been a fan for a long time great to see you doing well. Keep kickin ass!
I picked up a 79 nova. 40 thousand miles 3 grand.
The 75-79 Nova is awesome. It's so light (weighs less than a 2nd gen Camaro). I had a 75 Pontiac Ventura (same car) and with the most minor suspension changes it handled really well. They are really solid as well, no squeaks and rattles. The hatchbacks are not as solid but they are really fun.
I have a 77 Buick Skylark, and it's the same car also. They are wonderful cars and can look really nice. I bought mine 15 years for $800 from "The little old lady next door", literally, when she got too old to drive. It has a 307 with the 3 speed auto trans and only had 57k on it, it was garage kept, and still is, since she bought it new in 76. I literally had to just clean it up a little and have daily driven it ever since. this summer i'm going to park it for awhile, rebuild the engine and trans and do a reclean up on it and pull the Landau Top off it and repaint the roof. I've thought about doing a suspension upgrade and drop it a couple inches, can I ask what changes you made and what parts you used?
Another thing you can get for cheap is a blowned up or seized 05-09 V6 Mustang and you can swap the blown 4.0L V6 and replace it with either a 5.0L Coyote V8 or the new 7.3L Godzilla V8 out of a wrecked 2020 Ford Super Duty and have you're self a fun Hotrod as well.
I have a ls turbo Pontiac Phoenix. Nice to see the fourth gens get some love.