"thats quite a heavy load youre shooting at me" im crying... niles this was a seriously emotional moment of kaze yelling his emotions in your general direction please
1:40 You know, the funny thing is that ninja were dishonorable and weren't bound by laws. It's the samurai who were like that - hence why samurai commonly looked down upon ninjas, and viewed them as using underhanded tactics, not facing their enemy head-on, etc. BUT THIS WRITING IS SO GOD DAMN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. ITS A FUCKING LITERARY MASTERPIECE IN *EVERY SUPPORT*. I was literally crying after this one... it's so BEAUTIFUL. I have legitimately never cried because of something that was beautiful or interesting or anything... but this is too much. It's absolutely perfect.
Well good thing this was the english version. (Meanwhile, back in Japan) Niles: MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAAAAAAA!!!!! Kaze: ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
I thoroughly enjoyed this! The captor/prisoner dynamic is one that wouldn't have occurred to me for these two, but it fits perfectly. Getting into the meat of Kaze's feelings about being imprisoned was especially good, and Niles is just hilarious. In some ways I actually prefer the C-S fan hacks more than just the S ones. The fan-writers can write a good support chain from the ground up, instead of working with what's already there.
Hold on... why did Niles and Kaze act like Niles WON that argument at the end of the B support? Kaze implored him to show mercy and let the prisoners go, and then he said "is that the kind of mercy the Hoshidans would show me?" and Kaze basically said "yes, it is.", and yet Niles waltzes away saying "I rest my case" as if that was a point in his favor instead of Kaze's.
I think it implies that Kaze said he would indeed show mercy, but the hesitancy of his reply showed that some part of him would take his anger out on a ruthless killer like Niles if the scenario were to be true. It's difficult to forgive a person for killing your brethren and Niles knows this very well, it's obvious that Kaze isn't entirely forgiving of it (Not to the extent of Niles of course, but still).
In the B and A Support, Kaze is helping a Hoshidian prisoner in prison, this sets place in Conquest where they are in Nohr, so what bout Revelations? Wouldn't that stick out?
You and the others should make supports from every character, even if they have supports. :D (Fan supports are often better than from the developers themself ;D)
So would this be a Nohr only support or would it work for revelations? Because you can capture prisoners in both, but they wouldn't necessarily be Hoshidan.
Just a little RQ: Could you do supports for characters that can only support with Corrin with other characters? (i.e. Shura, Flora, Scarlet, Reina, etc.)
This is a fascinating and well-written conversation set. Though honestly it makes me hate Conquest even more to be reminded of the fact that there's no way the Nohrians could possibly be converting Hoshidan soldiers through anything but torture. Do you have a different version of this conversation planned for Revelation, like with Azura and Corrin's constantly changing? Because parts of this really only make sense on Conquest.
Honestly, and I'm speaking as someone who loves your work with this hack, I was really dissapointed with this support. It legitimately comes off as... sort of abusive? Or at the very least, excusing the actions of an abuser with the justification that love changes him and he's totally OK now, which is fairly obviously problematic as hell. Belief the "Abuser has totally changed for love" trope has put many people in dangerous abusive situations. On top of that, I don't think this is accurate to Niles' character. I realize this part is up to interpretation and maybe the writer sees Niles as someone who does torture prisoners, but in-game, Niles likes to see people uncomfortable and even in pain sometimes, but he still has empathy and I can't see him outright torturing prisoners and especially not being rape-y towards them in their darkest hour. Plus, Stockholm Syndrome. It's a pity, because the emotion behind this, of whether or not it's worth regretting trauma if it had some good outcome, is fantastic and that part is done really well, but it's saddled with a support that exaggerates a character to cruelty that precludes any sympathy, and then sweeps his abuse under the rug, not just towards his partner, but towards others.
kendrick5501 well..... this is a Nintendo game, fan supports or no, i doubt they would want to add a relationship that has both characters with the same mother and father. In the game if you have at least one different parent you can marry, i mean would ship it nevertheless and i kinda do
+Dingzhu i guess it might just be me because his s-support feels a bit odd because of the whole "i let the prisoners go because i care about you and they might be important to someone else" simply since i guess i never really saw niles as the type to actually care about others that he doesn't know especially given the angle that letting prisoners go could endanger leo who niles in a couple of his supports states he would never let the threat ever arise but again i'm starting to think his actions are what the whole support was in endgame terms about so i'm sorry for not taking a closer look at your work!
Niles: Be straight with me. Or not. I can be flexible.
Omg. I'm dying.
That was my line
"thats quite a heavy load youre shooting at me"
im crying... niles this was a seriously emotional moment of kaze yelling his emotions in your general direction please
HFJDBDK SAME
I couldn't stop laughing when he said that
OH MY GOD XD
During the A-support, the Hoshidian prisoner would be like "Huh, guys, don't kiss in front of me. Please."
I'm pretty sure some of the prisoners would be dissapointed when they left without knowing the end of Kaze and Niles' lovestory.
@@superpaulina10able
As a prisoner I can say- yes. Me and my friends were disappointed they didn't kiss
@@fedechan6325 can confirm, was a hoshidian prisoner
1:40 You know, the funny thing is that ninja were dishonorable and weren't bound by laws. It's the samurai who were like that - hence why samurai commonly looked down upon ninjas, and viewed them as using underhanded tactics, not facing their enemy head-on, etc.
BUT THIS WRITING IS SO GOD DAMN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD. ITS A FUCKING LITERARY MASTERPIECE IN *EVERY SUPPORT*. I was literally crying after this one... it's so BEAUTIFUL. I have legitimately never cried because of something that was beautiful or interesting or anything... but this is too much. It's absolutely perfect.
Even in these serious conversations, Niles still manages to make sexual innuendos... I love it...
Kitsune Chan if you want Niles making innuendos, look at his fan made supports with Laslow. You won't be disappointed
when the S rank is written better than the rest of the support...that's some powerful fan fiction right there
Kaze: it says that look in your eyes
but Niles only have one eye (?
Well shit someone already commented this.
A fucking year ago.
Well shit...
IS THAT MR.WALPOLE FROM EXTRA HISTORY????
My two husbands are marrying each other. I LOVE IT. Also the writing for this was really well done so congrats to the person who made this.
I think Kaze is some kind of masochist
with some of thing's he says in main game i wouldn't be to surprise
???
@@domc8089 Oh, I'll tell Severa and Inigo that you're here!
"...I love you."
*death by kawaii*
Well good thing this was the english version.
(Meanwhile, back in Japan)
Niles: MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAAAAAAA!!!!!
Kaze: ORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAORAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!
I thoroughly enjoyed this! The captor/prisoner dynamic is one that wouldn't have occurred to me for these two, but it fits perfectly. Getting into the meat of Kaze's feelings about being imprisoned was especially good, and Niles is just hilarious.
In some ways I actually prefer the C-S fan hacks more than just the S ones. The fan-writers can write a good support chain from the ground up, instead of working with what's already there.
Hold on... why did Niles and Kaze act like Niles WON that argument at the end of the B support? Kaze implored him to show mercy and let the prisoners go, and then he said "is that the kind of mercy the Hoshidans would show me?" and Kaze basically said "yes, it is.", and yet Niles waltzes away saying "I rest my case" as if that was a point in his favor instead of Kaze's.
I think it implies that Kaze said he would indeed show mercy, but the hesitancy of his reply showed that some part of him would take his anger out on a ruthless killer like Niles if the scenario were to be true.
It's difficult to forgive a person for killing your brethren and Niles knows this very well, it's obvious that Kaze isn't entirely forgiving of it (Not to the extent of Niles of course, but still).
i agree with this
In the B and A Support, Kaze is helping a Hoshidian prisoner in prison, this sets place in Conquest where they are in Nohr, so what bout Revelations? Wouldn't that stick out?
Ruffians can be Samurai.
John Frank I guess that's true, although why would Kaze help them?
A former friend and current deserter?
The prisoners, from outside the window:*cheer*
they should have run while they had the chance.
You and the others should make supports from every character, even if they have supports. :D
(Fan supports are often better than from the developers themself ;D)
"Haha. That look in your eyes, Niles..."
*eye
5:36
But Kaze! You aren't fighting Gangrel!
The characterization and dialogue in this are absolutely superb. Amazing job, dinghzu -- you really outdid yourself this time.
Wait, Jotaro and DIO are now lovers?
kaze giveth, niles taketh away
Incredible writing as always
there's a typo at 1:21 where it says have twice
Good job as always Dingzhu!
This was fucking amazing. It felt heavy
this made me cry a lot & made this into THE ship. I'm lov
Midori and Nina sibling support???
Stockholm syndrome after the fact is still bad.
This is hawt!! Can I request Niles X Subaki? Mr. Perfection vs the Broken Man :D
Could you do Takumi & Niles please ???
5:45 NILES I SWEAR IF YOU DON'T....
Um...actually Kaze, it was Leo...
The closets thing for a Jotaro x DIO. (Kaze was voiced by the Daisuke and Niles was voice by Takehito)
This is a really good counterpart to the Corrin/Rinkah supports.
Meanwhile that prisoner is just sitting there like:
|O_ O )
| O_O)
I'm at the B support, WHAT in the worls is happening?
Could you do a Subaki X Kaden C - S Support conversations video? I live these two!
Niles...no...stop.
So would this be a Nohr only support or would it work for revelations? Because you can capture prisoners in both, but they wouldn't necessarily be Hoshidan.
I over this conversation
*love
Just a little RQ:
Could you do supports for characters that can only support with Corrin with other characters?
(i.e. Shura, Flora, Scarlet, Reina, etc.)
Like Reina and Peri? THAT WOULD BE AWESOME XD
+Jory S
I like the way you think
+H4WKE XD why thank you! *takes a bow*
Jory S
You know, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship
dinghzu seems to have had trouble with this support chain.
This is a fascinating and well-written conversation set. Though honestly it makes me hate Conquest even more to be reminded of the fact that there's no way the Nohrians could possibly be converting Hoshidan soldiers through anything but torture. Do you have a different version of this conversation planned for Revelation, like with Azura and Corrin's constantly changing? Because parts of this really only make sense on Conquest.
Honestly, and I'm speaking as someone who loves your work with this hack, I was really dissapointed with this support. It legitimately comes off as... sort of abusive? Or at the very least, excusing the actions of an abuser with the justification that love changes him and he's totally OK now, which is fairly obviously problematic as hell. Belief the "Abuser has totally changed for love" trope has put many people in dangerous abusive situations. On top of that, I don't think this is accurate to Niles' character. I realize this part is up to interpretation and maybe the writer sees Niles as someone who does torture prisoners, but in-game, Niles likes to see people uncomfortable and even in pain sometimes, but he still has empathy and I can't see him outright torturing prisoners and especially not being rape-y towards them in their darkest hour. Plus, Stockholm Syndrome. It's a pity, because the emotion behind this, of whether or not it's worth regretting trauma if it had some good outcome, is fantastic and that part is done really well, but it's saddled with a support that exaggerates a character to cruelty that precludes any sympathy, and then sweeps his abuse under the rug, not just towards his partner, but towards others.
Claire Marriott so basically, Niles isn’t written correctly.
Is there gonna be a Saizo & Kaze S support?
that's technically incest, but being that fates already has tons of incest it wouldn't be out of place
Krazydude777 Is that a bad thing?
kendrick5501 well..... this is a Nintendo game, fan supports or no, i doubt they would want to add a relationship that has both characters with the same mother and father. In the game if you have at least one different parent you can marry, i mean would ship it nevertheless and i kinda do
those two are blood-related, no. End of my reply.
No, those two are direct blood related siblings, FE has been able to avoid crossing that line so far...I think.
niles' characterization seems really off tbh :/
Aw man, sorry you feel that way. If you have any critique I'd be totally glad to take it though
+Dingzhu i guess it might just be me because his s-support feels a bit odd because of the whole "i let the prisoners go because i care about you and they might be important to someone else" simply since i guess i never really saw niles as the type to actually care about others that he doesn't know especially given the angle that letting prisoners go could endanger leo who niles in a couple of his supports states he would never let the threat ever arise but again i'm starting to think his actions are what the whole support was in endgame terms about so i'm sorry for not taking a closer look at your work!
15:42 don't you mean eye?