Selecting Shelving & Building an Indoor Grow-Light Station Basics: Starting Vegetable Seeds Indoors
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- I go over the basic of selecting the right shelving unit to hang your lights and build a grow-light station that meets your needs. The key is to really match the shelving to the type of lights you buy. The set up in the video helps me manage 300-400 seed starts. Big or small the principles are the same.
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Hi Gary, thanks for the link. This is helpful. I had a question about lights. Can you have too many lumens? I'm looking at one of the sets which is 40W, 6000K and 4100 Lumen. Its also a frosted cover. I jotted down a note from one fo your videos recommending 5000-6500K and 2000-3000 lumen value, but wasn't sure if these numbers could go higher and what would happen if so. Thanks for your input!
@@margipatneaude4802 They will be fine I use 5000 lumen lights.
@@Riverrockphotos Thanks for your input! I'm going to give them a try : )
What is the brand of shelving that you're using here?
Thanks so much Gary...my biggest problem, how do you attach your grow light to the shelving unit?
Thanks Gary for your videos they are awesome. God bless everyone
Appreciated
So detailed. Thanks Gary. It's obvious that you have walked this path before and can share your wisdom with us. It is very much appreciated. Thank you.
So glad to share. I hope you give it a try.
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This series is awesome!! This is just what I needed to have a great season. I've been trying and failing because I just didn't know how. Thanks for sharing. I will definitely be watching 😉
Let me know if you have questions. Just leave them on video comment. Good luck.
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Love all the details. Thank you. I have the same stand. I'm using a grow tent, to keep the cat out. Should be interest.
Cats are one issues I dont contend with. They are quite curious.
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Hey Gary, you will have fewer mishaps with the S-hooks on your lights if you feed the hook in through the small hole first. (Ask me how I know)
Did you learn the hard way?
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Omg that’s a great tip!
Great info. Thanks so much!
Glad to help
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I like the way you explained the details. I'm more interested in gardening.
Thanks
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Looks great! I'm so jealous! 😊
Thanks
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I just commented on your other video I don’t have room for lights and then you show this cool setup. Thanks! I really appreciate and learn a lot from your videos.
I really like the lower set.
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I just bought a 5-shelf wire rack from Lowes for $69 on sale from $80. I put it together a few days ago. The bottom shelf for some reason for me was a pain in the ass. I ended up breaking 2 of those plastic anchors that snap together on the pole to hold the shelves in place. After I got the first shelf in place the rest was easy.
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First like! And this video is right on time! Thank you!
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Just found your channel, Gary. Great advice. One thing I would add about labeling is what I use; a Bic Wite Out pen to write directly on the cell trays. But I usually write dates and names of varieties in my notebook also.
Oh thanks. Good Idea.
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I have that shelving and it works great.
Hi Gary! I'm trying to find your video from a couple of years ago at your old place where you built your grow station with the tin foil and reflective material on the walls. We're going to build one and I need to show my husband what I'm talking about. Love your vids! Thank you!
I dont know which video it would be in. Foil I would just roll out a long strip and put duct tape around the edges for durabilty. Then I would tape it along the edge of the 4 foot light to make a flap. If that helps.
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Thanks for explaining this so well
Glad to share.
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Lookin' good, Gary! I wish I'd gotten the chromed-out shelving units when we pick ours up, but at the time, we bought them for the laundry room.
I like the chrome. Always used plastic but now I like the look and function.
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Just bought the rack at ikea few days ago. Great to work with.
Good luck and have fun.
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@@THERUSTEDGARDEN i live in Sweden so am not sure if those would be lucrative purchases. Thanks for the reply and all you share. I will keep watching and learning and recommending your channel.
thank you
I have those racks they are great! Is that your new logo? Very nice!👍🏼 thanks for the tips!
That is the new logo. Thanks!
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Really like the setup. :)
Appreciated.
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Hi.
Do you prefer to have the raised lip at front of the shelving?
What is the advantage of this raised lip vs no lip for this application?
Cameron
For my trays, I just make a drawing of the tray in a notebook, and label the tray with a number in the front. Then I write what type of seedling I started is in each row. It works really good because tape, popsicle sticks and everything else I tried fades, falls out, or come off, but as long as I don't loose my notebook, I always know what went where. I don't even have to change the number. When tray 1(or 2, 3, etc) is emptied and I start again, I just change the date I started it in the notebook.
Perfect. That works.
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I’ve been waiting for a video like this... I’ve got three shelves like that... I figured i could do something like this, just needed someone to pass on a little enlightenment to get started... I like this because I can invest in one shelf of lights every month ... seems doable. Thanks sooo much Gary!
Yeah start slow and with a plan. Enjoy
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Hi Gary,
Thank you, I have learned so much already in a short time by watching all your videos!
Now hope I can have a lot more succes this year (I started last year with some herbs and a few vegetables on my balcony with only small results)! Getting ready to do it your way this year!
A bit more difficult to find all the supplies and fertilizers etcetera you recommend here in The Netherlands (Europe) but I'm getting there! I even found seeds for a AAS winner tomato variety 😉!
Ps: I totally loved the metal rack when I saw yours and luckily found it at Ikea here. Those racks are almost the same (Omar), but you can stack those to twice the hight PLUS those have plugs for the top, maybe a small tip for you if you're not done yet replacing your other rack?
Anyway, thank you so much for all you do, I'm a big fan!
Thanks for taking the time to watch. Good luck for this year and each year I still learn. Oh cool Ill look for the outlets on some. Very appreciated!
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I like how you did that under the window. Did you use 1 shelf unit and split it or is that 2? I've only seen 5 shelf units, but you have 6 shelves. Do they make them with 6? Love this series. I want to to rearrange my grow area to maximize space, and have been trying to figure out how.
This brand is 5 shelves but it is two pieces. You get 8 posts that have to be assembled to 4 posts. You basically build 2 halves. I bought a single 6th shelf that they sell too. It was actually cheaper that way then buying a 6 shelf system.
@@THERUSTEDGARDEN Nice, thank you, didn't know they sold shelves by themselves!
Somewhat confused. are the lite units on the right shelf unit leds and on the left shelving unit shop lites(t8)6500 k. In one of your other videos you suggested t8 6500k/ 2200+ lumens/ daylight. Not sure what lites now to get. Any info on this would be great. Thank you
The lights are mixed as I buy and replace over the years. LEDs are a ton more common and cheaper now. Old days 2200L worked but had to keep light close. Nowadays I recommend 3000L or more. Good luck.
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i know this is an old video gary and i'm watching again because i want to do this. I bought the same exact 5 shelving unit you have in this video and was going to do the same set up as you but i was wondering how you got the 6th shelf! did you buy an extra from store? If so where?
At Lows one time they had extra levels you could buy. That was years back.
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Gary, I don't see the light unit used in this video in the store. What it it. Did I miss the video where you discussed it? What is it?
There it is..
These werent in the amazon store. The products change often on amazon so I try and put in similar systems. Look for the right mix of lumens and kelvin for the lights on amazon. You dont need exactly what I am using just the similar ranges.
The units come and go on amazon. So really using the guidelines help but in my Amazon links, I have similar lights in there.
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Call me late to the game, but I am just getting into indoor gardening. I would like to mimic your setup to the best of my ability. I'd like to find the wire shelving you talk about, esp being 4' wide to fit the light fixtures. I'm having trouble finding such shelves within a decent price range. Everything I am finding is $100+ and that's way out of my range and that's not even counting lights, etc. This video is 2018 or 2019 and it is now 2023. Please help. Where can I purchase the right shelving units and a fair price? thank you
That was found at Home Depot or Lows a few years back. Shelves really went up in last 2 years. But Walmart for lights. Shelves where I mentioned.
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Will you put your heating mat directly on the metal rack under your trays?
I will if needed. Might put down a flat piece of wood so the metal doesnt sink the heat. But very plants need the heat less your space in cold. Peppers do enjoy some heat.
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Hi. Great job in this video.
Can I ask why you are not using dome covers on your trays?
Cameron
I found they arent needed and just create more humidity that favors fungal growth
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I've noticed you have wood floors,if you drip water on it from watering the plants won't you ruin it?
Yes, the flooring would warp after a while, but placing a tarp under the shelf to catch any water, soil, etc would solve this issue. (I've done this myself as I had carpeting).
That room actually has nice vinyl flooring Faux wood. I am going to keep that for just that reason.
I want to make sure I understand your system. You can basically use any shop light to start seedlings. If I want to grow year round will the same shop light work or should I switch to grow lights?
If you are just growing transplants, any shop light with the rating ranges I discuss work. If you want to grow beyond leafy greens, like flowering and fruiting, you need something more elaborate.
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How to use the folding fan lights, what do you attach it to for the power source? Everywhere it shows you screw it into the ceiling.
I a video on it. Small Scale Gardening. It goes into a light socket clamp with a cord.
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Love the video but hard to tell which lights you are using since your link shows a ton of different lights.
Well thats just it. The light brand doesnt matter. You just want to find whats in your budget and meets the kelvin and lumens rating. A lot of the same lights are made by the same company under different names. Good luck.
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Hi Gary, if I have +6" tall peppers, how high should the lights be above the foliage to prevent burning?
It depends on the lights but if they are that tall they really are less light dependent. You could go, generally 6-8 inches above them with the lights.
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Thanks Gary.
First of all, Love all your informative videos. I'm putting the same shelving unit together. What determines when you move the seed trays from shelf to shelf? I hear you saying 10-14 days for this shelf, then another 2 weeks on this shelf, then some go outside, some stay inside. Is it based on the size of the plants? This is where I'm getting confused.
Thanks. So really based on the height of plants. Just as the might touch a light I move to a different shelf OR RAISE the lights. Try and keep the lights a couple inches above the lights. When they are like 5 weeks old or so, they also can get by with less light. Sometimes I move them to a shelf where the lights sit pretty high up.
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Gary can you please post a link for the shelf unit
There is one linked at my amazon shop in the description. The growlight link. I also got this at Lowes.
@@THERUSTEDGARDEN thanks Gary, so the shelf unit is Amazon and grow lights at Lowe's? Just want to make its the exact shelf unit because it's perfect for what I want
The shelf is on amazon. But I did find same shelf at my lowes. However, stores stock different stuff. The lights are at lowes too.
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Also sold at Sam's club for $90 each
Do you need to have a grow-light for seed starting or can it be done by just setting them near a window?
Not by a window but you can move them in and outdoors. Here is the video th-cam.com/video/tjzkRSu41pU/w-d-xo.html
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But how did you end up with 6 wire shelves when the kit only included 5????
LOL good question. They sold extra inserts at Lowes or HD. However they were pricey.
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Gary, do you think T5 lights are any better than the T8's? Or have I been reading too much?
Not much difference but if cost isnt an issue t5s are more energy efficient.
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This video was very helpful. I completely forgot how these shelving units can be set up in 2 lower columns instead of 1 tall unit. That is going to work very well for me. Thanks again.
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Did you say where you got your new wire shelves? I would like to get a new set of shelves similar maybe for fall winter 2020 season. I have 3 old flourescents grow light sets and 3 new led shop lights, same as yours from Walmart. What zone or location are you? I'm in 8b, south AL
Amazon and home depot. I have them in here.
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Hi what does closeout on your site mean?I'm trying to order seeds but it says closeout.
Just a discount as we are getting rid of all this year stuff and buying new stuff. The seeds last for years though. If you have germination issues just let us know.
One time we counted up how much it would have cost if we had bought our seedlings instead of starting them ourselves. Well over $1000.
Plus you are stuck with the few varieties offered at most stores!
That fact is underappreciated. The varieties open up when you start your own.
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That is very true. I will be talking more about that. My purple cone flowers, flowered this year. They grew to the size of $6.99 plants in 1 year.
Shelves with rollers will give you more flexibility.
I would agree. I saw wheels. But they were 22 bucks. Not bad for the long run but didnt have the money to spend.
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How did you determine that the plants need less light as they get bigger?
Been doing it for 20 years. Lights always needed but the most intense light is needed at germination and about 10-14 days after that so the plants dont get leggy and lanky.
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I know but people get annoyed to if I say in video too much to.
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Hi Garry will you talk about flowers, when we can start them and do we do same like tomatoes. Thanks.👍
I will yes. And pretty much the same but I over-seed the cells.. I started shasta daisies and purple coneflower already for the upcoming videos.
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