NOTE THAT V PREMIUM DOES NOT SEEM TO CONTAIN OVERDRESS. ALSO: AFTER CREATION OF THIS VIDEO, KIDANI WENT ON STREAM TO SAY THEY'LL TRY THEIR BEST TO NOT HAVE TO ROTATE AGAIN.
Funnily, they are the clan that are most "animal". Aqf is filled with ship captains, and granblue is filled with pirates and ghosts, but BT is filled with human-fish idol lel.
while I am excited for OverDress, this is just discouraging since I just started out and have been collecting V series cards to make decks with. I'm glad that V standard will be a thing, but D standard is obviously gonna take the spotlight which makes the V series seem less desirable to play as a newbie. Struggling to describe how I feel as there is still decks I wanna make in standard but now that there are 3 formats.... its a yikes. Premium is an option but it is so much more to learn and keep track of compared to the V series which I still haven't even gotten the hang of yet. I think I might just wait and see if Overdress does something I like with new units, but I just feel a tiny bit salty. I was really happy that I found a new card game that didn't rotate like pokemon did, and while this isn't on that level I'm still really disheartened by it. Anime looks clean af tho!!!
Same here just started and just found the clan I like after building a deck from pretty much every clan and now slapped in the face because I have no idea what I’m looking at when I see premium way too late to the party to learn all that shit so now v players are fucked lol I’m just going back to commander and this bs cash grab card game and bushi can get get bent cause I’m not wasting my money on this shit just to get rotated out again
Hey if it makes you feel better there’s a chance that you’ll be fine even with the reboot. Depending on what cards from the overdress sets are released and how good they are will change the meta. For all we know in the future there might be meta decks comprised of only overdress and standard cards. I hope this makes you feel better!
@@fanzo24 that I get but also how many kids are gonna play v still tho ? Because premium is where I’m at mostly everyone plays then the rest play standard cause we are newer as in new this year so this whole situation just sucks haha because we just learned the game and finally got a grasp of it and now we have to learn a completely new format either way one more complicated and heavy then the other
Standard players shit on premium and Premium players shit on standard. The discourse is on both sides of the community so dunno why people portray it as so one sided at times.
@@KarakuraNinja And how does doing the same thing back to them helps ANYONE?? Thats like a child whining "He did it first" when he engages in some nonsense.
@@chiafoohong5272 I mean, yeah. That's the natural choice for what to do with this. I personally would love to see overtriggers sent back into the deck with legion decks. Could then do some deck stacking with OTT.
@@joshuagreen8995 Overtriggers disappear after being used, there won't be a way to recycle them. Also, some people are speculating that being an "overtrigger" and not a "trigger" would avoid toxic interactions like that one with Ultima. I'm for once glad if they do that.
Bushiroad is really pushing away extremely old players who stick to just one format Hard for new players as well as they can only stick the mew standard While v premium(or whatever you want to call it) is how its own thing This will aslo make cards that store selling cards even more complicated now With three formats to support I see selling vanguard is going to be difficult for many people now
I like that the ride deck contains 4 cards, even assuming you only need grades 1,2 and 3, you can run a safe option and a situational 1 of that you will never want to see and won’t be a dead draw either. In matches that are best of 3 of course. But this will add some interesting deck building options like 1-of tech cards you only need sometimes. An extra layer of depth is what we could use.
The way I see it is that the removal of clan system and replacing it with nations like MTG colours is a massive step forward so that more staple cards are accessible across the board, but I find that rebooting the game again will piss off heaps of the player base. I love the ideas presented, but hate the new trigger because it’s too RNG for my tastes and proper messes with the strategy element of the game since it can make a less skilled player beat out a genuinely good player just by flipping it. Still, it’s a step forward at least
@@remyyeldrem809 I mean Overdress decks will be 4$ anyway, if you're worried play V Premium for a bit as you decide what you want to do, or expand on it into normal premium and just pick up whatever Overdress cards of your nation you end up liking as time goes. Nothing forces you to rush building your deck up. And at least with Ride deck now you can enter, get a single copy of your intended rides and still function. Its an up and a down so honestly enjoy the game this is gunna get interesting
I am about to buy a standard deck but literally the next day I woke up, people starts talking about a reboot so I just went welp, just grab my old G deck and see any new cards that I can put in lel.
To be fair, when they reboot again, they could viably merge v premium and premium together, then have overdress premium seperate again, then merge overdress once the next format comes in, etc. This way, eras can be the way bushi likes them, and you can still have the max 3 format idea
@@insidious6068 prolly becuz V will still get new cards so current standard players can continue to play without having to learn old cards n premium players can get new stuff from everything
I really was waiting for the: I told you so about the reboot when I saw the popcorn XD I agree with you on the formats, a V premium isn't the right thing to do indeed, with the rest I can live, even with the FU trigger haha
So, I say this as someone that is currently an outsider who was researching to get into it. It is interesting. If I started and played in OD, I pretty much am going into the Dark State nation (maybe) since I like all of those clans aesthetics as opposed to other new nations that have clans whose aesthetics I dislike. Of course that depends on the playstyle of the nation may now have. If Dark State's new playstyles doesn't appeal to me.... Of course, I can just go with Premium.
I don't think supporting V as its own format is a bad thing. People who play Standard right now can't just take their current deck into Premium and actually enjoy the game. They'd need a lot of old junk which is no longer in production, and will never be in production again. This isn't MTG. Bushiroad doesn't reprint cards from Limit Break or G eras. So making people pay $400 for a playset of a card from 2012 to make their V decks even remotely viable in Premium is out of the question for most people. Now if they decided to do two or three reprint sets a year with top played Premium cards in them, then that'd be another story.
@@SolemnVanguard I'm obviously exaggerating, but Premium is not cheap at all. Especially Strides. I don't actively play Premium anymore, but things are only going to get more expensive. If Bushiroad reprinted stuff, having only two formats wouldn't be a problem, but in another 4 years, G era cards are going to be harder to come by, and if stuff like Luard stays in the meta for another format, those old cards are going to get more and more expensive. It's not an immediate problem, but for the life of a game, it gets bad. Do you not know the whole fetch land issue in MTG? Or dozens of other examples of non-accessible cards that are next to mandatory to be competitive? Mana Crypt, Sylvan Library, basically every card from Kaladesh Inventions. You're saying Vanguard should have a truly eternal format like MTG, but they can't do that without reprinting cards, which I sincerely doubt Bushiroad will ever do.
I completely agree 👍. As someone who's moved from yugioh since it began to try vanguard out at V era. Even though I've put a ton of cash in V. I can see why this has been done. Like yugioh struggles to attract new players in some cases because each card has it's own complex timing and ruling and chain resolves. Doing this for vanguard will keep it simple and nice to understand. And also 2 formats would have made sense. I'd even look into G units more if need be.
I find it funny that yugioh's reboot anime looks very childish and meant for a younger audience while vanguards looks more mature and aimed at an older audience
@@ayato1392 I don't like it the first season I found really boring like the writers were struggling with what to do, the 2nd season was only enjoyable with shions storyline. season 3 was stupid because the villians plan was the exact same plan Madara had in Naruto and season 4 and 5 were improved a little but at that point their was so many characters that it felt way too bloated
Im ok facing gurguit and gavrail, im ok with chaos coming in and having lock. But now with overdress establishing nation base decks (which is awesome!), i really hoped that bushi wouldve set new regulations and massive restriction list to ease out the v series card pool and let overdress come in smooth without being creeped by v cards. Also with clamp studios doing the anime im super excited!
At this point, I think people just need to accept that Standard will be a rotating format, and Premium is the eternal format. It'll be this way until the end of Vanguard
@@DrAdreus but now you're left with the idea of not purchasing any further V products. Or going through the commitment of balancing playing 2 formats as an inexperienced player. Not to mention how many new coming players are gonna run for the hills when you tell them there's 3 formats LOL. This move adds many negatives for every level of player. So let's just see how things pan out lolol
@@nickF_CA As someone that has played since the og bt01 this isnt gonna change much. Premium players will continue to hate on standard players, standard will make most of the money and Bermuda will come as a cash grab. The only way it'll brick is if the new mechanics are bad.
@@hayden8311 yeah I mean so many uncertainties. I'd like to try and stay optimistic though, been a long time since I've played a game from the very first set
Bmt player who bought gcb07 when it just got release: "first time?" Several months later I sold all of my bmt collection, stuffs just keep dropping. After that I decided to quit VG for good because I thought they might pull this kind of atunt again P.s. miss you my ange premium deck, I will miss those days when I can stride when opponent vg still at g2 :')
In defense of V format, I think it's there so the players who came in V don't have to buy strides and stuff for Premium if they still want to play their cards. That said, Yea I don't think the format should exist. Just one premium format with support for strides it gift stuff in premium collection is sufficient. And then if something's unhealthy or busted in premium, drop a restriction.
9:15 i'll have a word for that, Vanguard so far are actually meant for kids at the start because it was included as a kids anime or Anime that is actually made for kids to watch, but it's also fr all age so obviously adults would be the one on top of the game, the Anime is for kids, and to be honest Kids anime are the kind of anime that i like best, it's really safe for kids to watch most of the time
i skipped V format so this is all refreshing for me. I can't stand having a reboot so I guess my answer to people is take a break and assess the situation. No card game will be supported eternally even if V ended after 3 years only.
Player base needs to make the formats like it happened in MTG. as well as a draft mode. Both of which I have plans on creating so that I can bring this into my country
Pretty sure we have a 3rd format for G which no one plays, so V is probably not going to be played as well. Just bushi formalizing it like how there's technically a format where you can mix clans.
When I asked for Duel Terminal type sets, I didn't mean change the entire game into them. I'm excited for new "Starvaders," but I didn't expect them to completely change the game like this
I agree with V Premium purely because whenever they rebooted the series the first time it was to get rid of all of the complicated mechanics like G Strides and stuff. So if you take the cards that were made specifically because they didn't want G Strides and other things that complicated the game, if you take them, and then add the G Strides anyways, it sorta just ruins and nullifies the purpose the cards were even made for.
Do you think premium decks will be based around clans, and you can add cards from OverDress that belong to that clan's nation, or, do you think premium will be based around nations, and you can add cards from all clans that belong to that nation?
I was looking forward to this video the moment I heard the announcement. I agree there's some good and there's some bad news here. And 3 formats sounds like a lot but I guess we'll see if Bushiroad can manage them.
I personally believe that by the time time the next reboot hits there will still be 3 formats. So that it's Standard (Current Format), OverDress Standard (Overdress/Last Gen cards only), and Premium. With anything older than the last format being merged into Premium, so like V will become one withh Premium finally.
3 formats is the worst part of this. Other than that I love these new changes... I think for the future of the game the changes they made are gonna be good for its longevity. I think that having v support could work as a way to specifically support premium decks could work but I hope they don't forget to create more premium collections
I haven't played or heard of any Vanguard updates for 4 years... Number 1, What did miss Number 2, Are old cards still usable? Number 3, If so, are grade 4 cards still usable?
Real question that might be answered later. So if you look at the cards Overdress stuff doesn't seem to be compatible with anything else because the nations changed and the new cards don't list clans anymore? Did they address this and I missed it?
Also as far as the formats go if they reboot again I could just see em drop V premium and then make D premium while dropping V stuff into Premium Standard. Maybe keeping up 3 formats. Though I also agree on the fact that keeping up 3 formats would probably be kinda a pain.
Code Geass was made by Sunrise, who are most well-known for the Gundam franchise. This Vanguard anime is not by Sunrise but it does have the same character designer as Code Geass. This a "big deal" cuz the character designer, CLAMP, is a very well-known manga artist group.
This is not precisely a reboot, it's like a continuation or a new generation like Vanguard G. The only thing that happenned is that they make formats now like MTG
Honest question as someone who doesn't play standard, how far back would we need to go to make the stuff in Clan Selection the meta? Like I know thus far they don't compete with Gurguit/Gavrail and I'm pretty sure Luard, but would they be fine in Silverdust meta, back a year to Vanq/Revonn or even further?
If the card prices will drop with this, I may have to look at doing some Overdress playing, depending on how this all shakes out. No more Overlord the clan, but Dragon Empire would be fun to play
what i HOPE they will do is instead of rebooting lots of formats how about they rotate v-standard and d-standard on what is getting the most support. ex. after this overdress story ends we go back to v-era for a much calmer and easier standard while d-standard gets support in the extra boosters. one for new players and one for thr older ones.
I actually loved the so-called "baseless" Retrains. They FINALLY came out with Shadow Paladin Witch support! Here is me hoping that they come out with a similar aesthetic to Witches (NOT just Wizards!)
i get what they were going for with 3 formats, standard is nation based, v premium is clan based, and premium is mixed, but i am expecting v-premium to get the short end of the stick
Good thing is that by mixing the clan into a nation can make sure everyone get their support but, if Granblue and Aqua Force joins Zoo in a nation, what happens to both Zoa and Megiddo for Premium? Maybe it's not really concerning now but what if every game can take always played for a long time someday.
I think they can hold a three format as far as support. Have it be standard (current sets), modern (the current plus previous standard ex. Overdress with v currently), and then premium. It makes it so that they can also have one set be modern support and the other premium support. However overall I don't like the 3 format idea either.
Honestly my main concern is the clan/nation split. The whole thing about clans and what made this game *unique* was was that clans had a certain way of going about the game, a literary fighting style. Now with this nation split, will there just be one universal style that the nations as a whole will accel at? If thats the case then Vanguard would loose some of its originality by just making specific nations good at one thing, and groups of cards retain some of their original play styles why even split?
Just wait until enough people complain about the 100 million power trigger and Bushiroad tries to solve the problem by making decks that can go beyond 100 million, causing unspoken levels of power creep to happen
Overdress sounded exciting until I heard about the "fuck you" trigger. I'll probably still try it though, I like fresh card games. Maybe we can house rules it away during casual games.
So...how is “eternal” going to work? If Overdress is allowed in “eternal” and it has nations instead of clans from what I understand, will be we building nation “eternal” decks then?
Solemn Vanguard ah...ic. Thanks. So then the overdress card will have a similar playstyle to its clan counterparts. I predict an OP BT in “eternal” cuz there support is gonna be like for one clan.
8:23 in my opp i think these change will make van more fun but its bec i print proxy and play with frindes for fun so we just dont have any thing to lose but this trig is awsom
I honestly don't know how I feel about this... Back during the start of the V format, players either had the standard decks ready to enter Premium by just buying new cards just like they did before, or they were a new player that could just buy into Standard. Now Premium players continue like they did when V format came, while Standard players have to either buy into Premium (both old and new cards) or buy into Overdress (completely starting over). Sure Standard players could just stay in this new "Premium V", but I honestly don't see that format lasting long... Vanguard isn't big enough to have three entirely different formats for long term. The only barrier to Premium is that you have to purchase an entire Extra deck ontop of the cost of the deck itself, and that Extra deck can cost a good $150~$300 by itself. To make matters worse, you will also have to buy the new overdress cards to stay relevant with the new meta (So easily $250~$400 total) ~sighs~ I... don't know what I will do. :/
If done right, I believe overdress will be the last reboot because let’s be honest, overdress is just bushiroad knowing they fucked up standard format and are trying again
it better be their last cause anymore of this i am out. no one have time to just keep buying new cards for new formats every fucking time they reboot. it ridiculous.
Is it normal to be a bit scared going into Overdress. I don't have much money to spend and it seems like I'm gonna have to keep buying things to stay relevant. You don't need the best deck to have fun but eventually that 'fun' deck will become unplayable won't it?
I'm more little bit mad they drop overdress like on a player base right before english got Bermuda and a few months later band dream set. Its like if you put money into those sets oh well. Yes Bermuda can just at to premium card pool. But I havent seen a local event counting Friday set in 3 sets. Doesn't 100% give me hope
Not gonna lie. I figured that if the game rotated I would only play premium, but this seems extremely promising. It finally feels like this game could be competitive (although that fucking overtrigger). V premium is a mistake though, there's no reason to play it over premium. Also: PLEASE GIVE US BEST OF 3 TOURNAMENTS.
Agreed on making 2 format, premium and standard... in premium people can mix & match V-series, G-series n D-series or originally play V-series deck with new cards from D-series. Basically now deck from V-series somehow can beat G series deck so why not in one format. Since people complaining broken combo. Bushiroad can just add more ban list n limit card instead of making many format which might cause many people to quit
NOTE THAT V PREMIUM DOES NOT SEEM TO CONTAIN OVERDRESS.
ALSO: AFTER CREATION OF THIS VIDEO, KIDANI WENT ON STREAM TO SAY THEY'LL TRY THEIR BEST TO NOT HAVE TO ROTATE AGAIN.
Good 😌
In v premium is just only v cards?
In my opinion I think that premium should be the only format of this game
yeah, but why ;-;
We had the G format at the start of V so we can hope V premium goes the way for it.
"...except for Bermuda, which became its own nation for some reason."
Some reason = money probably.
It was always an extra booster clan, so why not just make it completely separate from everything else?
Ironically, BMT is the cheapest deck to make in D including the meta BMT decks
Aqf and GB: Let’s merge with Zoo
BT: Imma head out
lol
Mermaids not into that bestiality/furry shit
@@Prinny_421 But aren’t the mermaids half animal (fish)? I just think they are being elitist or Switzerland in the future.
Funnily, they are the clan that are most "animal". Aqf is filled with ship captains, and granblue is filled with pirates and ghosts, but BT is filled with human-fish idol lel.
@@GunmetalGator half fish and mermaids are more human then fish.
This video made up 50% of Solemn's daily calorie count.
Bro may I have a calorie
Card Game Players: What format is this?
Bushiroad: Yes
Granblue and aqua force got seperated from bermuda because they still wanted their mermaid waifu only sets lol.
WOMEN DECK WOMEN DECK
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@@gary7846 it's going to be real funny if they fused all the nation's together and bermuda is still all alone as a single deck.
My guess, Bermuda will be in an idol nation. Bang Dream and Bermuda Triangle.
@@xKatsune I think it might be for any waifu crossover they want to do not just bang dream. So kinda like etranger but legal.
@@xKatsune they probably gonna throw touken ranbu in there
WiXoss: "We separate the ride cards to prevent misriding."
Vanguard: "Write that down! Write that down!"
while I am excited for OverDress, this is just discouraging since I just started out and have been collecting V series cards to make decks with. I'm glad that V standard will be a thing, but D standard is obviously gonna take the spotlight which makes the V series seem less desirable to play as a newbie. Struggling to describe how I feel as there is still decks I wanna make in standard but now that there are 3 formats.... its a yikes. Premium is an option but it is so much more to learn and keep track of compared to the V series which I still haven't even gotten the hang of yet.
I think I might just wait and see if Overdress does something I like with new units, but I just feel a tiny bit salty. I was really happy that I found a new card game that didn't rotate like pokemon did, and while this isn't on that level I'm still really disheartened by it.
Anime looks clean af tho!!!
Same here just started and just found the clan I like after building a deck from pretty much every clan and now slapped in the face because I have no idea what I’m looking at when I see premium way too late to the party to learn all that shit so now v players are fucked lol I’m just going back to commander and this bs cash grab card game and bushi can get get bent cause I’m not wasting my money on this shit just to get rotated out again
@@BigMosh V players still have 2 boosters every year with new cards
Thankfully I started at the end of G so not all of my cards turned to waste
Hey if it makes you feel better there’s a chance that you’ll be fine even with the reboot. Depending on what cards from the overdress sets are released and how good they are will change the meta. For all we know in the future there might be meta decks comprised of only overdress and standard cards. I hope this makes you feel better!
@@fanzo24 that I get but also how many kids are gonna play v still tho ? Because premium is where I’m at mostly everyone plays then the rest play standard cause we are newer as in new this year so this whole situation just sucks haha because we just learned the game and finally got a grasp of it and now we have to learn a completely new format either way one more complicated and heavy then the other
V standard is gonna get dropped like a brick
eh it's another temp format so people can come to terms with the change
Standard players shit on premium and Premium players shit on standard. The discourse is on both sides of the community so dunno why people portray it as so one sided at times.
Because it was premium shitting that threatened the survival of the format day one.
@@KarakuraNinja And how does doing the same thing back to them helps ANYONE?? Thats like a child whining "He did it first" when he engages in some nonsense.
And I play both and I don't know why everyone is arguing.
@@sammydray5919 you said it right
One thing about overtriggers:
It'll be hilarious in premium for nouvelle vague to negate the effect XD
or the new megacolony guy to steal the effect lul
Hahahahahahaha I didn't think about that, but that's hilarious!
Ultimate stride ultima and put the over trigger on top your deck
All of your unit get 1m atk
@@chiafoohong5272
I mean, yeah. That's the natural choice for what to do with this. I personally would love to see overtriggers sent back into the deck with legion decks. Could then do some deck stacking with OTT.
@@joshuagreen8995 Overtriggers disappear after being used, there won't be a way to recycle them. Also, some people are speculating that being an "overtrigger" and not a "trigger" would avoid toxic interactions like that one with Ultima. I'm for once glad if they do that.
Can we just have a moment of silent for veteran player got ko by 100mil trigger in the future
that is a game ending thing
Ultima: I have a new weapon at my disposal
im pretty sure v reboot standard is only v, cards not overdress cards.
true!
Another reboot huh? I'm starting to hate this. I hope I dont see 21 formats if you know what I mean
Bushiroad is really pushing away extremely old players who stick to just one format
Hard for new players as well as they can only stick the mew standard
While v premium(or whatever you want to call it) is how its own thing
This will aslo make cards that store selling cards even more complicated now
With three formats to support
I see selling vanguard is going to be difficult for many people now
Your three off from the magic number of clans in vanguard, because is the true format!
Clan formats!
You only play royals in Royal Paladin format!
@@gwarguraqueentrickstarcoat9110 if stores can handle multiple mtg formats and yugioh formats then they can handle this haha
I like the concept of V Premium simply for those who invested a lot in standard but don't want to play premium
I like that the ride deck contains 4 cards, even assuming you only need grades 1,2 and 3, you can run a safe option and a situational 1 of that you will never want to see and won’t be a dead draw either. In matches that are best of 3 of course. But this will add some interesting deck building options like 1-of tech cards you only need sometimes. An extra layer of depth is what we could use.
The way I see it is that the removal of clan system and replacing it with nations like MTG colours is a massive step forward so that more staple cards are accessible across the board, but I find that rebooting the game again will piss off heaps of the player base. I love the ideas presented, but hate the new trigger because it’s too RNG for my tastes and proper messes with the strategy element of the game since it can make a less skilled player beat out a genuinely good player just by flipping it. Still, it’s a step forward at least
i think I'm wasting money.. Keeps on rebooting
Boy did I choose a bad time to come back into vanguard
Same, just bought a new Standard deck and I've got a feeling that it'll be redundant soon...
@@remyyeldrem809 I mean Overdress decks will be 4$ anyway, if you're worried play V Premium for a bit as you decide what you want to do, or expand on it into normal premium and just pick up whatever Overdress cards of your nation you end up liking as time goes. Nothing forces you to rush building your deck up. And at least with Ride deck now you can enter, get a single copy of your intended rides and still function. Its an up and a down so honestly enjoy the game this is gunna get interesting
I am about to buy a standard deck but literally the next day I woke up, people starts talking about a reboot so I just went welp, just grab my old G deck and see any new cards that I can put in lel.
xd
Just play G.
We stayed at G and it is a pretty good format. It as cheap as hell since most people sell their old cards for very little money.
Real winners: premium format and Gastille 👌
We the real ones.
I am scared
Cbd: dammit
@@kongtailong6970 no that’s good he get more support now especially those new star Vader look alike units.
I rather old vanguard
To be fair, when they reboot again, they could viably merge v premium and premium together, then have overdress premium seperate again, then merge overdress once the next format comes in, etc. This way, eras can be the way bushi likes them, and you can still have the max 3 format idea
Why bother manage 3 different formats? There's no reason to have 2 different "premium" formats.
@@insidious6068 prolly becuz V will still get new cards so current standard players can continue to play without having to learn old cards n premium players can get new stuff from everything
v premium is just gonna be the G format.
when V was announced, VG had 3 formats too, and G format only lasted like 6 months
I really was waiting for the: I told you so about the reboot when I saw the popcorn XD
I agree with you on the formats, a V premium isn't the right thing to do indeed, with the rest I can live, even with the FU trigger haha
So, I say this as someone that is currently an outsider who was researching to get into it. It is interesting. If I started and played in OD, I pretty much am going into the Dark State nation (maybe) since I like all of those clans aesthetics as opposed to other new nations that have clans whose aesthetics I dislike. Of course that depends on the playstyle of the nation may now have. If Dark State's new playstyles doesn't appeal to me.... Of course, I can just go with Premium.
2:41 hold up does that grade 1 have 5k shield? Are they also reverting shield value?
I don't think supporting V as its own format is a bad thing. People who play Standard right now can't just take their current deck into Premium and actually enjoy the game. They'd need a lot of old junk which is no longer in production, and will never be in production again. This isn't MTG. Bushiroad doesn't reprint cards from Limit Break or G eras. So making people pay $400 for a playset of a card from 2012 to make their V decks even remotely viable in Premium is out of the question for most people. Now if they decided to do two or three reprint sets a year with top played Premium cards in them, then that'd be another story.
What cards, per clan, are 400$ for a playset in premium?
@@SolemnVanguard I'm obviously exaggerating, but Premium is not cheap at all. Especially Strides. I don't actively play Premium anymore, but things are only going to get more expensive. If Bushiroad reprinted stuff, having only two formats wouldn't be a problem, but in another 4 years, G era cards are going to be harder to come by, and if stuff like Luard stays in the meta for another format, those old cards are going to get more and more expensive. It's not an immediate problem, but for the life of a game, it gets bad. Do you not know the whole fetch land issue in MTG? Or dozens of other examples of non-accessible cards that are next to mandatory to be competitive? Mana Crypt, Sylvan Library, basically every card from Kaladesh Inventions. You're saying Vanguard should have a truly eternal format like MTG, but they can't do that without reprinting cards, which I sincerely doubt Bushiroad will ever do.
I completely agree 👍. As someone who's moved from yugioh since it began to try vanguard out at V era. Even though I've put a ton of cash in V. I can see why this has been done. Like yugioh struggles to attract new players in some cases because each card has it's own complex timing and ruling and chain resolves. Doing this for vanguard will keep it simple and nice to understand. And also 2 formats would have made sense. I'd even look into G units more if need be.
I find it funny that yugioh's reboot anime looks very childish and meant for a younger audience while vanguards looks more mature and aimed at an older audience
I really prefer the G era anime cuz its suitable and enjoyable in all ages in my opinion. It does not feel too childish to watch .
@@ayato1392 I don't like it the first season I found really boring like the writers were struggling with what to do, the 2nd season was only enjoyable with shions storyline. season 3 was stupid because the villians plan was the exact same plan Madara had in Naruto and season 4 and 5 were improved a little but at that point their was so many characters that it felt way too bloated
So... did Bushi think about what that "game ending" trigger does with Ultima or Gold Paladin with Ultima?
It ends the game obviously. And pretty clear we're not getting any real premium support for a long long time
Ultima might get banned if it gets too egregious.
Maybe Bushi brings a wording rule to prevent "overtriggers" be the same as "triggers".
Im ok facing gurguit and gavrail, im ok with chaos coming in and having lock. But now with overdress establishing nation base decks (which is awesome!), i really hoped that bushi wouldve set new regulations and massive restriction list to ease out the v series card pool and let overdress come in smooth without being creeped by v cards.
Also with clamp studios doing the anime im super excited!
At this point, I think people just need to accept that Standard will be a rotating format, and Premium is the eternal format. It'll be this way until the end of Vanguard
Really a shame they didn't remove triggers. They're not an icon people love vg for. Luck based is crap.
Being a player that got into this game end of V series....gotta say this isn't hype 😅
V still get support twice a year though.
@@DrAdreus but now you're left with the idea of not purchasing any further V products. Or going through the commitment of balancing playing 2 formats as an inexperienced player. Not to mention how many new coming players are gonna run for the hills when you tell them there's 3 formats LOL.
This move adds many negatives for every level of player. So let's just see how things pan out lolol
@@nickF_CA As someone that has played since the og bt01 this isnt gonna change much. Premium players will continue to hate on standard players, standard will make most of the money and Bermuda will come as a cash grab. The only way it'll brick is if the new mechanics are bad.
@@hayden8311 yeah I mean so many uncertainties. I'd like to try and stay optimistic though, been a long time since I've played a game from the very first set
Bmt player who bought gcb07 when it just got release: "first time?"
Several months later I sold all of my bmt collection, stuffs just keep dropping. After that I decided to quit VG for good because I thought they might pull this kind of atunt again
P.s. miss you my ange premium deck, I will miss those days when I can stride when opponent vg still at g2 :')
In defense of V format, I think it's there so the players who came in V don't have to buy strides and stuff for Premium if they still want to play their cards. That said, Yea I don't think the format should exist. Just one premium format with support for strides it gift stuff in premium collection is sufficient. And then if something's unhealthy or busted in premium, drop a restriction.
my guess V premium is going to be a temporary format like we have had in the past until people either settle into premium or standard
Same as the current new standard format, because in a year or two they gonna reboot the game again and make a new standard format
9:15 i'll have a word for that, Vanguard so far are actually meant for kids at the start because it was included as a kids anime or Anime that is actually made for kids to watch, but it's also fr all age so obviously adults would be the one on top of the game, the Anime is for kids, and to be honest Kids anime are the kind of anime that i like best, it's really safe for kids to watch most of the time
Bushi on the road to 69 formats?
Nice
The change in Ride is very nice! Now you can actually run 1 of those that only will work effectively in VC. Really nice change!
I'm sure it's going to get abused some how. Being able to ride any unit seems rife for exploitation.
i skipped V format so this is all refreshing for me. I can't stand having a reboot so I guess my answer to people is take a break and assess the situation. No card game will be supported eternally even if V ended after 3 years only.
Yeah i skipped V series too..
The new overdress seems promising and refreshing to get back again.
Did not know Vanguard was getting THIS BIG.
I mean by, getting a High end Studio for animations.
Code Geass and Shield Hero Studio will make it hype
Player base needs to make the formats
like it happened in MTG. as well as a draft mode. Both of which I have plans on creating so that I can bring this into my country
3 years already, it has been a while since i played it in a store since the whole pandemic
Note that there's no TBD support in premium premium. Meaning that strides might not be supported anymore.
Pretty sure we have a 3rd format for G which no one plays, so V is probably not going to be played as well. Just bushi formalizing it like how there's technically a format where you can mix clans.
Honestly the triggered suck
Except if you have ultima
Ultima with over trigger would be so op
Unless you have a kanzen guard
I actually needed a video on this tbh
When I asked for Duel Terminal type sets, I didn't mean change the entire game into them. I'm excited for new "Starvaders," but I didn't expect them to completely change the game like this
I agree with V Premium purely because whenever they rebooted the series the first time it was to get rid of all of the complicated mechanics like G Strides and stuff. So if you take the cards that were made specifically because they didn't want G Strides and other things that complicated the game, if you take them, and then add the G Strides anyways, it sorta just ruins and nullifies the purpose the cards were even made for.
I know you always say "chow" at the end of the video, but this time, you're LITERALLY chowing at the end of the video. LOL. love you.
I think he’s just saying ciao instead of chow
Do you think premium decks will be based around clans, and you can add cards from OverDress that belong to that clan's nation, or, do you think premium will be based around nations, and you can add cards from all clans that belong to that nation?
I believe premium is still clan fight and you can just add the new nation cards into the decks.
I was looking forward to this video the moment I heard the announcement. I agree there's some good and there's some bad news here. And 3 formats sounds like a lot but I guess we'll see if Bushiroad can manage them.
I think by the end of the year they'll stop supporting V premium,. Like they did for G format.
I personally believe that by the time time the next reboot hits there will still be 3 formats. So that it's Standard (Current Format), OverDress Standard (Overdress/Last Gen cards only), and Premium. With anything older than the last format being merged into Premium, so like V will become one withh Premium finally.
Where do you guys go to check vanguard prices?
I want to be exited about this but it is not a good sign when you reboot your game for a second time after only 3 years
Granblue and Aqua got shafted so hard. They could've gotten great support but instead they're stuck with zoo
3 formats is the worst part of this. Other than that I love these new changes... I think for the future of the game the changes they made are gonna be good for its longevity. I think that having v support could work as a way to specifically support premium decks could work but I hope they don't forget to create more premium collections
I haven't played or heard of any Vanguard updates for 4 years...
Number 1, What did miss
Number 2, Are old cards still usable?
Number 3, If so, are grade 4 cards still usable?
Real question that might be answered later. So if you look at the cards Overdress stuff doesn't seem to be compatible with anything else because the nations changed and the new cards don't list clans anymore? Did they address this and I missed it?
OD cards will work in premium. You'd be able to play the nation cards in their respective clans.
Ok combining the clans into nation is interesting...but why did they exclude v series from Overdress
To make you buy the new cards.
8:45 that's trading card games heart of the cards win. Lol
man i dont want vanguard to die, and the anime got me hyped
It will never die as long as they keep doing reboot to trick the players
@@suisui5930 😔
Also as far as the formats go if they reboot again I could just see em drop V premium and then make D premium while dropping V stuff into Premium Standard. Maybe keeping up 3 formats. Though I also agree on the fact that keeping up 3 formats would probably be kinda a pain.
Code Geass was made by Sunrise, who are most well-known for the Gundam franchise. This Vanguard anime is not by Sunrise but it does have the same character designer as Code Geass. This a "big deal" cuz the character designer, CLAMP, is a very well-known manga artist group.
This is not precisely a reboot, it's like a continuation or a new generation like Vanguard G. The only thing that happenned is that they make formats now like MTG
Honest question as someone who doesn't play standard, how far back would we need to go to make the stuff in Clan Selection the meta? Like I know thus far they don't compete with Gurguit/Gavrail and I'm pretty sure Luard, but would they be fine in Silverdust meta, back a year to Vanq/Revonn or even further?
so the real question should we sell our v cards to ebay
Not yet
play premium man
If the card prices will drop with this, I may have to look at doing some Overdress playing, depending on how this all shakes out. No more Overlord the clan, but Dragon Empire would be fun to play
What does this mean for Zeroths and Progenitors? How are nations gonna work in Premium going forward?
I just want to know if any of the overdress cards will boost premium standard decks😭
Overdress cards are not legal in V premium. They are only legal in premium and standard.
what i HOPE they will do is instead of rebooting lots of formats how about they rotate v-standard and d-standard on what is getting the most support. ex. after this overdress story ends we go back to v-era for a much calmer and easier standard while d-standard gets support in the extra boosters. one for new players and one for thr older ones.
Now that its not per clan.... We can also have rotation now on overdress standard since its easier now to support each nation.....
I actually loved the so-called "baseless" Retrains. They FINALLY came out with Shadow Paladin Witch support! Here is me hoping that they come out with a similar aesthetic to Witches (NOT just Wizards!)
If only the Shield on the overtrigger was also 100M...
It's gonna hurt sooo much to draw that after mulligan
Bushiroad is clouded by the Darkside and now to go to the whiskey
Awesome news overall. Can't wait for the new products!
i get what they were going for with 3 formats, standard is nation based, v premium is clan based, and premium is mixed, but i am expecting v-premium to get the short end of the stick
I say just remove it, makes things simpler
Good thing is that by mixing the clan into a nation can make sure everyone get their support but, if Granblue and Aqua Force joins Zoo in a nation, what happens to both Zoa and Megiddo for Premium? Maybe it's not really concerning now but what if every game can take always played for a long time someday.
I think they can hold a three format as far as support. Have it be standard (current sets), modern (the current plus previous standard ex. Overdress with v currently), and then premium. It makes it so that they can also have one set be modern support and the other premium support.
However overall I don't like the 3 format idea either.
What if they release units that nullify over triggers? 🤔🤔
Honestly my main concern is the clan/nation split. The whole thing about clans and what made this game *unique* was was that clans had a certain way of going about the game, a literary fighting style.
Now with this nation split, will there just be one universal style that the nations as a whole will accel at? If thats the case then Vanguard would loose some of its originality by just making specific nations good at one thing, and groups of cards retain some of their original play styles why even split?
Is nation fight rule will only apply in the new Standard?
Yes
Just wait until enough people complain about the 100 million power trigger and Bushiroad tries to solve the problem by making decks that can go beyond 100 million, causing unspoken levels of power creep to happen
Overdress sounded exciting until I heard about the "fuck you" trigger. I'll probably still try it though, I like fresh card games. Maybe we can house rules it away during casual games.
When will the anime be released? and when will the English vesion trial deck be released?
So...how is “eternal” going to work? If Overdress is allowed in “eternal” and it has nations instead of clans from what I understand, will be we building nation “eternal” decks then?
You can put nation cards in the respective clan decks
Solemn Vanguard ah...ic. Thanks. So then the overdress card will have a similar playstyle to its clan counterparts. I predict an OP BT in “eternal” cuz there support is gonna be like for one clan.
8:23 in my opp i think these change will make van more fun but its bec i print proxy and play with frindes for fun so we just dont have any thing to lose but this trig is awsom
Standard Nation format and premium clan format.
That is what we should have.
Bushiroad: he's to smart to be kept alive
I honestly don't know how I feel about this... Back during the start of the V format, players either had the standard decks ready to enter Premium by just buying new cards just like they did before, or they were a new player that could just buy into Standard. Now Premium players continue like they did when V format came, while Standard players have to either buy into Premium (both old and new cards) or buy into Overdress (completely starting over). Sure Standard players could just stay in this new "Premium V", but I honestly don't see that format lasting long... Vanguard isn't big enough to have three entirely different formats for long term.
The only barrier to Premium is that you have to purchase an entire Extra deck ontop of the cost of the deck itself, and that Extra deck can cost a good $150~$300 by itself. To make matters worse, you will also have to buy the new overdress cards to stay relevant with the new meta (So easily $250~$400 total) ~sighs~ I... don't know what I will do. :/
If done right, I believe overdress will be the last reboot because let’s be honest, overdress is just bushiroad knowing they fucked up standard format and are trying again
it better be their last cause anymore of this i am out. no one have time to just keep buying new cards for new formats every fucking time they reboot. it ridiculous.
Is it normal to be a bit scared going into Overdress. I don't have much money to spend and it seems like I'm gonna have to keep buying things to stay relevant. You don't need the best deck to have fun but eventually that 'fun' deck will become unplayable won't it?
I'm more little bit mad they drop overdress like on a player base right before english got Bermuda and a few months later band dream set. Its like if you put money into those sets oh well. Yes Bermuda can just at to premium card pool. But I havent seen a local event counting Friday set in 3 sets. Doesn't 100% give me hope
Holy shit a new anime made by a good studio???? Let's gooooo
Not gonna lie. I figured that if the game rotated I would only play premium, but this seems extremely promising. It finally feels like this game could be competitive (although that fucking overtrigger). V premium is a mistake though, there's no reason to play it over premium.
Also: PLEASE GIVE US BEST OF 3 TOURNAMENTS.
This... This Is buddyfight
Guys they fused buddyfight with Vanguard
But where are the attribute special flags thought.
@@lucasscalcon7024 give them time
I completely agree it feels like they merged the two games.
Nah, code geass
This reboot seems far more extreme than the first one
Questions: do I put the overDress cards in any clan of the same nation in premium like the ZRs?
Yes
With this, how will the current V series cards crash?
Agreed on making 2 format, premium and standard... in premium people can mix & match V-series, G-series n D-series or originally play V-series deck with new cards from D-series. Basically now deck from V-series somehow can beat G series deck so why not in one format. Since people complaining broken combo. Bushiroad can just add more ban list n limit card instead of making many format which might cause many people to quit
The worst timeline came true, so now the mechanics shall juf=dge whether or not I drop V Standard since I'm enjoying Overlord the Clan in Premium.