I grew up in Georgia and now live in New York. I remember sitting with my gynecologist in Georgia, planning my birth control options around what would happen if Roe v Wade was overturned and the 6-week ban went into effect. It was essential for me because I have a blood clotting disorder that limits my birth control options while making my period debilitating. My doctor in NYS was shocked when I told her that my Georgia gynecologist was both a doctor and policy/law translator to her patients. God bless the gynecologists still practicing in Georgia.
It's insane that they cannot harvest your organs after death without your permission, but can force you to remain pregnant or deny you access to emergency healthcare when your alive.
They have the Doctors and Nurses so scared to give care because some of these sentences are life imprisonment! I hold a medical license and when you’re issued it you’re always reminded to protect it without fail because that’s your life and livelihood. The people who write these laws have NO IDEA what they’re talking about, why a woman would need a D+C, or emergency medicine to help her body expel a lost pregnancy. It’s ridiculous that they’re essentially practicing medicine without a license!
The abortion issue was not well tried. The issue is medical self-determination and somatic integrity, which each of us -- men and women -- all have. We have the right to be secure in our persons and to make our own religious and moral decisions.
Well when women murder their babies by the millions just because they don't want them what do you expect? Where are the Fathers rights in all of this? Need strict laws accept abortion only if Mother will die without it but doctors cannot be trusted to make that decision we saw that with medical marijuana.
My mother had a miscarriage--in 1953. She was able to get the health care she needed, no questions asked. Her doctors didn't go to jail, she wasn't labeled a "murderer". My mother-in-law had an ectopic pregnancy--in 1947. She was able to get the health care she needed, no questions asked. Her doctors didn't go to jail, she wasn't labeled a "murderer". My sister had a miscarriage in the early 1970's (I don't remember the exact year). She was able to get the health care she needed, no questions asked. Her doctors didn't go to jail, she wasn't labeled a "murderer". We have gone back to pre-1940's health care for women. That's one thing that happens when you allow a bunch of ignorant old men who want to please a few extremists take over the government. They all claim to be "pro life", but they are anything but.
Actual 2 in 3 early pregnancies end in miscarriages and that's when "people try for pregnancy" regardless of the person with uterus having their periods regularly. Failing of pregnancies and abortion are completely regular procedures in nature. In fact in nature many animals can actively make a choice to abort pregnancy due to bad circumstances or "being disturbed".
There is a very long history of accepting human chattel in this country, and a LOT of what these Republicans are doing is in response to policies that discourage the idea that people can and should be owned by other people.
@@GeneElder.R27 I couldn't agree more. I can't really think of something other than greed that has cost more lives and caused more dispute than religion.
They want "unwanted" children to be born so that they can have unlimited CHEAP/SLAVE "poorly-educated" LABOR for themselves and their previledged children. They don't give a fk about morality which religions are supposed to be about.. 🙄
@AnnaChristina-z2w Very true and lets not forget the thousands of Native American and black woman who where given total hysterectomies without their knowledge or consent courtesy of Conservatives that the Catholic church was complicit in. We could see a repeat of that in just a few years if we do not win this election.
@anniejuan1817 was their loss greater than their own lives? Aside from that, I am sorry at the tragedy that they are being forced to live through. Personally, I think the government has NO place involving itself in any abortion business. Should all be between the mother, father, and the doctor. Only those should be involved in the payments as well. If you want me to pay with my tax dollars, then I should have a say, and I don't want that any more than you want my say in your personal life.
@@PandoraBear357 That's the biggest lie there. They DON'T care about kids. They only care about abusing "the idea of hypothetical kids" to abuse women. They only care about themselves!
A lot of them are predators. They put a predator on a presidential ballot! Over forty prominent Republicans are sex offenders. It's their cult-ture. They hate women.
The fact that they quickly appealed it, is appalling. Two women died, of we know of because of their ban and they're not even moved, by it. Just sickening.
The Hill bitched and said that this is all reactionary and we should hear from her doctors instead of experts to see if the abortion ban really caused their deaths.
The judge also shut it down because of the statements in the decision making process of the ruling. Putting the deaths in perspective is important for the judge to take action. Also important for the rational decision making with or without the dire consequences. Access to qualified female specific healthcare providers and affordable healthcare options is essential to our society and women are our society.
I sincerely hope and pray the Supreme Court of the United States and its members who voted to end Roe vs Wade realize the horrific damage they have done and resign IMMEDIATELY!!!
@@Brigantia11 "Accountability" doesn't speak of death sentence. Don't be the jerk who does as the abusers do by topping violence with more violence when history is more than clear how that NEVER has any good outcomes. Be the heck SERIOUS about stopping abuse and model the behaviour you want to see from your worst enemies! Don't dehumanise! That's where the damn problem started. The sivk idea that there's any excuse EVER that justifies dehumanization!
I hope women speak with a loud, clear voice in Roevember and say "Keep Your Theology Off My Biology". In the words of our VP candidate, "Mind your own damn business" and "A woman's rights shouldn't depend on geography". I'll be voting in Florida to help restore women's rights, at least in our state.
As a Tennessean, I'll be following your lead and voting a straight blue ticket and doing all I can to oust Republicans who want to destroy our country and strip away our rights.
In Florida, it will never happen. Move to a state that aligns with your ideals. That's the entire point of states having independent autonomy from one another. That is specifically why our country is formed the way it is. Typical liberal though, because you believe something, everyone has to conform to your ideology. Sorry, sweetie, but that's not how the world works. Especially here in America, the more you push, the more you're going to be pushed back.
i hope you know that amber's death had nothing to do with the ban. the abortion had already happened legally, her death was cause by medical incompetence. Vote how you will, but don't forget medical malpractice is an issue as well.
@@rungfang27Then should male penises be cut off every time a woman says she didn't intend to get pregnant, or every time a medical emergency rises during a pregnancy???
@@rungfang27 The father doesn't have to spend nine months carrying a child, so, no. He can put in his 2¢. Do you mean, do we support a man's choice to abandon a woman he got pregnant because he doesn't want the child?
@@rungfang27 Show me a man who is able to bear a child and he can have the right to his own body, the right to decide if he is ready to be a father. Otherwise, the man can do what men have always done when they don't want children. Leave.
@rungfang27 He made his choice when he decided to have sex without protection. I'm assuming he also didn't know his partner well enough to know if she was on birth control. Takes 2 to tango. It's also takes 2 forms of contraception to prevent pregnancy... U can always take of yourself, too bro. It's actually easier for women to get off when they do that... Use a sock = don't be a Daddy. Also, last I checked, men don't have to pay for doctors visits after they get someone else pregnant...in fact in some cases, they don't pay for a thing...
As a Canadian I find this way past infuriating, shocking and cruel. How can women in your country, or for that matter, the men who love them, even think of voting Republican? We fought this fight 50 years ago!! So grateful to be Canadian, but terrified for my American sisters. 🇨🇦💙
Kemp, a Republican who said he was “overjoyed” when the ban first went into effect, said this week through a spokesperson: “Once again, the will of Georgians and their representatives has been overruled by the personal beliefs of one judge.” Are individual women owned by the State? Are they owned by the legislators? Where is the oft-touted love of Individual LIberty?
From the way Vance and other Republicans speaks about women is that we should be forced to have children. That we don’t have value unless we have children. It’s creepy and disturbing. My heart breaks for families who are suffering because they ended Roe vs Wade.
Let me remind you all that up till 1963 thousands of Native and black woman where given total hysterectomies without their knowledge or consent courtesy of Conservatives that the Catholic church was complicit in. That should increase your feelings about them because it is fact and it will return if we lose. VOTE BLUE!
@@ArDeeMee Wrong. This mother lost her child, because healthcare and bodily autonomy was withheld by sexists and no safeguards stopped the implementation of dehumanising laws!
If men have to pay child support, they should also have a say in the abortion decision. Maybe they want that baby, why do they not have that option? The women arent getting pregnant on their own, it is half the man's too.
These kind of people want to “save” babies but it’s open season for children in schools. There are some seriously stupid people (maga) in this country who have no business making legislation based on feelings.
I would bet that there are MORE WOMEN who died because of that stinking POS TRAITOR's ban!!! Time to VOTE for HARRIS/WALZ 2024 and BLUE UP and DOWN the BALLOT
It's none of your business, you want to be christian and not have an abortion - go right ahead, it's your body, but anyone else - it's not your business.
I don't consider myself a Christian (and given how many "Christians" are today, I'm quite proud I don't consider myself one), but I was curious as to what the Bible said about abortion. So I looked it up. The Bible is quite clear on the matter. The life of the mother takes precedence over the life of the fetus. So these old farts imposing these laws are not only not "pro life" (as they claim to be), they are "Christians", either (as they claim to be).
If they go to jail, they just strengthen their own people who treat them like a martyr for the cause. I’d prefer they were forced to attend each and every gravesite every day (not at the same time as the family of course) and I’d like them to be forced to learn how the human body actually works and why using religion to create policies instead of science is so mind numbingly stupid.
The potential life of the fetus does not override the right to life of the Mother. It always saddens me to see how deadly "Christian Love" can be. As a man of faith (or so I delude myself), it is beyond disgusting. As an Electrician, I am sadly not surprised that people had to die before we saw a problem.
Women used to die all the time from these same issues. That's why they fought so hard for the right to an abortion. It seems the right has a very short memory, or don't care. They seem to think the only reason women want this right is because we want to have sex outside of marriage without having to have a baby. Its idiotic. It seems like they just want to punish women.
The problem was seen. It's just that people first needed the guild of having caused death by their own decisions outweighed whatever feelings they falsely had in regards to the bodily autonomy of women, who such people are often taught to perceive as objects!
There is only one god, Mother Nature, and she says that the life of the mother must be preserved so that she can continue to produce offspring when the time presents itself.
Women saw it coming from a mile away and kept saying someone was going to die because of this. Its just rigid men and fanatical religious nuts that don't want to admit it until it happens to their wife or daughter.
I’m a medical professional with 40 yr of experience, and had complicated pregnancies which included miscarriages. If I had tried to have my children now, both my children and myself wouldn’t be alive. It bothers me that so few News outlets speak of the MEDICAL side of this issue and only name it as “abortion”, when the greatest threat to women’s lives lay in the medical end! For an industrialized nation we have the HIGHEST maternal and infant mortality. This should scream attention in the media, but it remains largely ignored. Our women are last on the list for medical care, and women of color are even lower! If you’re thinking of your sister, mother, wife, female friends, and you’re heading to the ballot box….remember that Trump does not like women and you ARE the company you keep. He should NEVER be in the Oval Office again!
You are exactly right. This is a MEDICAL decision, not a political decision. This is between a woman and her healthcare provider. Nobody else needs to butt in or have anything to say about it.
Thank you for informing America about the deadly cost to women the draconian “Right to LIFE” policies are. Pregnancy is sometimes complicated and deadly dangerous for the woman. If men could get pregnant, this kind of medical care would be immediately available in all 50 states.
Republicans are the pro forced birth party. They don’t give a damn what happens to that baby after it’s born. They consistently vote against childcare, Headstart, and anything that would help a child after it is actually on the planet.
I have been outraged since Roe was overturned. And there is nothing worse than a grieving mother talking about their child who died because of a LAW that mostly men passed that withheld needed medical care. If you value life make sure you value ALL lives making sure that the living come first!
This is 2024 and people are dying from bans that should never have been imposed. We need to ask why do we live in a place that rolls back laws and rights that were already won. Why can't those responsible for those deaths pay? Why can't they?
So am I, but never give up. Dig deep, take notice of the little joys all around, monitor & limit your social media intake. Be judicious about the type of content you take in. YOU GOT THIS, GIRL.
we knew that this would happen. the public warned politicians. the experts warned politicians. and yet still ideology won out over reality. it will happen with every single politician- money and power talk louder than reason and compassion.
You’re right everybody knew that this would happen that our love of self would be so great that the need to kill our children would send us into dangerous situations
And how many more women across the country have to die before women get back the right to manage their own healthcare and their own bodies?!?! Enough already. The Party of the family….what a load of BS.
Be sure to vote out the Georgian governor as well, because HE CLEARLY does not have women's interests to do what she wants when it comes to family planning.
Use Mrs. please! It's 2024. And it's sexistic that women's status is changed due to marriage status when men are always Mr. no matter what. The results we see are results of systemic sexism. It's long overdue to sort out all instances of sexism. Especially these small ones. Because WE are the ones reaching abusers who is OK to dehumanise. WE are the ones teaching abusers that women's only worth is in being subservient to men. These women were their whole own persons!
Doctors need to make a stand. I'm not a doctor, but if my patient was going to die if I did nothing, and I faced the risk of prison for taking action to save her, I would take action. Letting people die is not an option.
I think people need to start talking about how these bans are affecting the mental health of our health care professionals. I worked with MDs/RNs for 20 years. It's a lifestyle, not just a career for most of them.
@@tenofivelips You're right. It's a big deal too to face losing freedom and a medical license to risk themselves.. Doctors should NOT be in this position. Also, when doctors act to save lives, they're inevitably going to fail sometimes because doctors aren't miracle workers. These women should not be collateral damage to idealogues. Government needs to be out of decisions between women, the people who love them, and their doctors.
Janelle Monae needs to record a new iteration of "Hell You Talmbout" that has us "say her name" about all the women losing their lives because the abortion bans.
Too late for these precious women, killed mainly by man made rules. The dark ages returned and will be even worse if trump gets back in. Women of America, your lives, and that of your daughters and granddaughters depend on you voting 💙
My heart screams injustice for this woman, her son and her family. Why are MEN controlling women and their bodies? If I were a young woman of childbearing age I wouldn't even have sex, much less get pregnant because of the dangerous position women are put in in the US.
Yes though in reality many unwanted pregnancies aren't even the result of sex but the result if rape and it's particularly OFTEN the case with the unwanted impregnation of minors which most often is dobe by adult. It's all just horrifying and everyone who has heard sexism of any instance and hasn't spoken up to stop if (if they could do so without risking their lives) has contributed to this. Everyone looking the other way when religious extremist spouted their abusive beliefs. This is not a matter of "just" too maby abusers. This is a matter of "enablers of abuse" which starts with "ignorance".
@@KxNOxUTA Actually many unwanted pregnancies are the result of consensual sex, & over 50% of elective abortions are due to contraceptive failures. What sucks about these laws, is that several states don't even have exceptions for R/I, or if they do the VICTIM has to show PROOF of police report!! As if a teenager or younger CHILD can just trot themselves down to the police station to report that her trusted Male Family Member or Friend raped her! Or women can so easily just report on their rapist partner she has to continue to co-parent with!
Thank God a judge who understands the constitution intervened. If prosecution of a law adversely effects a specific group of persons then it is unconstitutional.
It's always been pretty simple. If you don't want an abortion, don't have one. We do not need laws making choice impossible because of a PERSONAL belief. Laws have never stopped abortions. They have only increased death rates of women and children.
Heartbreaking when men make decisions about things they know nothing about but refuse to relinquish control which in the case of women's healthcare has and will cause unnecessary deaths
We are not out of the woods yet. They are going to try and keep these laws. We are going to have to vote and fight them and watch them like hawks cause I'm positive they are always going to try and control women again in the future if we get Roe v Wade back.
How did she lose her life? What happened to her? Was it a dangerous pregnancy and they let her just die? What in the … very sorry for the families loss,much love to you
She had a miscarriage. Most miscarriages need medical intervention to make sure no material is left in the uterus. When dead material is left inside the body, it can cause sepsis. Which is an infection in the blood. As sepsis travels through the body it infects organs, shutting them down. It's an odd ban as women could get an abortion for miscarriages prior to RvW just because it's basic medical care.
No she had an appointment for a d&c, missed it because of traffic, the place she went to said they could give her an at home chemical d&c (pills) she took them, not all of the baby was passed from her and she sought help to late.
What happened is, that these women should have had heath care and be under the care for medical professionals when there's a problem, but because medical professionals risk their own lives and licenses (translated: lives of other patients they have, livelihood of heir own families, jail for themselves plus loss of livelihood) they cannot help and cannot be around and even in places with exception rules they MUST wait until no sexistic butt can argue anymore that the life of the pregnant person WASN'T endangered and that's usually the point where survival chances are already abysmal and the survival itself often comes with organ damage. So don't let anyone tell you that this wasn't a result of dehumanising laws that withheld healthcare and bodily autonomy from pregnant people and doctors rights to practice safely!
These murderers claim they are pro life and protecting the unborn, but the child may already be dead or, will die when the mother does. If they are that pro life, let the woman get the care she needs and she can have another baby later. But it’s not really about protecting life, is it?
propublica, I love your reporting, you bring light to darkness. Ty for this story. And some feedback: please use a different transition in the future. The transition here made me nauseous and was distracting. However your video and story are so compelling I must force through that because I want to see the compelling story you present.
We need NATIONAL level reproductive health care rights, so VOTE BLUE down the entire ticket -- from President all the way down to Dogcatcher. Give women a chance to live free!! Give doctors the right to treat patients without fear of prison!!
This is ridiculous. There is an exception to any abortion restrictions, in every state of the union, if the mother's life is in danger. This makes no sense.
The complete story is not being told. She was late for her appt., so they gave her the pill instead, with the protocols being removed, and then she lay in hospital for like 20 hours and they did nothing.
Waiting till the mothers life is in danger is the problem. Doctors are not allowed to do anything till the mother is at deaths door. At that point it was only a matter of time when someone was going to die.
What makes this especially pernicious is that Georgia law doesn’t allow a referendum vote on it. So no - it’s not the will of the people. It’s the will of a gerrymandered legislature. I know it’s hard, but I’d be doing everything I could to get the hell out of these states.
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I grew up in Georgia and now live in New York. I remember sitting with my gynecologist in Georgia, planning my birth control options around what would happen if Roe v Wade was overturned and the 6-week ban went into effect. It was essential for me because I have a blood clotting disorder that limits my birth control options while making my period debilitating. My doctor in NYS was shocked when I told her that my Georgia gynecologist was both a doctor and policy/law translator to her patients. God bless the gynecologists still practicing in Georgia.
It's insane that they cannot harvest your organs after death without your permission, but can force you to remain pregnant or deny you access to emergency healthcare when your alive.
Yeah, we're ALL waiting for The Organ Banks to join the Department of Corrections.
They have the Doctors and Nurses so scared to give care because some of these sentences are life imprisonment! I hold a medical license and when you’re issued it you’re always reminded to protect it without fail because that’s your life and livelihood. The people who write these laws have NO IDEA what they’re talking about, why a woman would need a D+C, or emergency medicine to help her body expel a lost pregnancy. It’s ridiculous that they’re essentially practicing medicine without a license!
This us what happens when religious people vote
@@danidiaz2377 yep.
The abortion issue was not well tried. The issue is medical self-determination and somatic integrity, which each of us -- men and women -- all have. We have the right to be secure in our persons and to make our own religious and moral decisions.
I'm from the Netherlands, and I know many in Europe are appalled and stunned by the insane GOP lawmakers in the USA.
Yep, true (Italian here). And quite disgusted, also.
Well when women murder their babies by the millions just because they don't want them what do you expect?
Where are the Fathers rights in all of this?
Need strict laws accept abortion only if Mother will die without it but doctors cannot be trusted to make that decision we saw that with medical marijuana.
@@Tviannedont over 60% of your reproductive care providers deny people abortions? Its just as bad in europe as it is over there
im in spain and its terrible here man, europe has always been backwards like this but i hate how western extremism is backing this🤦♂️
We gave you guys military aid to destroy Hitler.
Sadly, it is looking like we might need a return of that favor before all is said and done.
1 in 5 pregnancies ends in miscarriage 💔 when this happens a woman needs a D&C, Not sepsis❗️
FIRST Do No Harm ‼️
Nor do miscarriages need police to be involved...
Correct!! Do No Harm!!
My mother had a miscarriage--in 1953. She was able to get the health care she needed, no questions asked. Her doctors didn't go to jail, she wasn't labeled a "murderer". My mother-in-law had an ectopic pregnancy--in 1947. She was able to get the health care she needed, no questions asked. Her doctors didn't go to jail, she wasn't labeled a "murderer". My sister had a miscarriage in the early 1970's (I don't remember the exact year). She was able to get the health care she needed, no questions asked. Her doctors didn't go to jail, she wasn't labeled a "murderer". We have gone back to pre-1940's health care for women. That's one thing that happens when you allow a bunch of ignorant old men who want to please a few extremists take over the government. They all claim to be "pro life", but they are anything but.
Actual 2 in 3 early pregnancies end in miscarriages and that's when "people try for pregnancy" regardless of the person with uterus having their periods regularly.
Failing of pregnancies and abortion are completely regular procedures in nature. In fact in nature many animals can actively make a choice to abort pregnancy due to bad circumstances or "being disturbed".
Truth
They are of course appealing it. They really are persistent in their quest for cruelty and domination, aren’t they?
Gaslight, Oppress, Project (GOP)? Gotta get the Oppression in there! 👀
There is a very long history of accepting human chattel in this country, and a LOT of what these Republicans are doing is in response to policies that discourage the idea that people can and should be owned by other people.
@@MMuraseofSandvich They’re following the lead of China. The GOP already have a lot in common with them.
What kind of society sentences their own people to death over something like a failed pregnancy??? 🤔
Ours unfortunately does. Unless we get that monster out of politics all together...
Christians, that's who.
@@NighDarke Fake Christians, maybe....
United States does
None.
We do have stupid doctors.
Malpractice third leading cause of death
Thank you ProPublica for all your amazing investigating reporting!
It was never about life.
Exactly. It’s about the cruelty.
@@nchnch5791 There‘s a reason Vaush keeps calling the modern Republicans a death cult…
And he’s not even wrong.
It is tragic that to some people, a fetus has more rights than an already productive member of society.
Its because of religion. Nothing if more harmful to human life than religion.
That productive member was once a fetus too.
@@GeneElder.R27 I couldn't agree more. I can't really think of something other than greed that has cost more lives and caused more dispute than religion.
“The unborn are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe.” -Dave Barnhart
They want "unwanted" children to be born so that they can have unlimited CHEAP/SLAVE "poorly-educated" LABOR for themselves and their previledged children. They don't give a fk about morality which religions are supposed to be about.. 🙄
Two irreplaceable women had to die because of extremist politics. Thanks to the judge, but nothing can make up for this loss.
of the children?
@AnnaChristina-z2w Very true and lets not forget the thousands of Native American and black woman who where given total hysterectomies without their knowledge or consent courtesy of Conservatives that the Catholic church was complicit in. We could see a repeat of that in just a few years if we do not win this election.
@@branchingoutnurseries4403 Both these women have children. And those children have suffered a great loss. This was so preventable.
@anniejuan1817 was their loss greater than their own lives? Aside from that, I am sorry at the tragedy that they are being forced to live through. Personally, I think the government has NO place involving itself in any abortion business. Should all be between the mother, father, and the doctor. Only those should be involved in the payments as well. If you want me to pay with my tax dollars, then I should have a say, and I don't want that any more than you want my say in your personal life.
Didn't one of them die because of an incomplete abortion?
I love how these elected officials want women to die
They care so much about life and kids, except the lives of the pregnant women and their already born kids who would be motherless if their moms died.😒
@@PandoraBear357 That's the biggest lie there. They DON'T care about kids. They only care about abusing "the idea of hypothetical kids" to abuse women. They only care about themselves!
They want to control you.
A lot of them are predators. They put a predator on a presidential ballot! Over forty prominent Republicans are sex offenders. It's their cult-ture. They hate women.
Most of them are so old, their own wives and daughters are way past the childbearing age.
These are wrongful deaths.
The governor doesn't care about women's lives, especially black women's lives.
It's murder, nothing less. So much for the pro-life party and 'good' christians.
@@WilliamBrowning The Republicans don't. This is their doing.
Wrongful my 🫏. This is premeditated murder.
@@geraldmahoney4856 Sure, the Republicans new this was going to happen so its premeditated murder.
The fact that they quickly appealed it, is appalling. Two women died, of we know of because of their ban and they're not even moved, by it. Just sickening.
That's politics for ya. They want to appease the tiny minority that wants women to be denied healthcare.
Their base are insane religious fanatics, of course they need to appeal it.
Get their names and deal with them off the books.
@@I_S_Chew Watch how fast things change for the better when consequences ring closer to home. Call on their loved ones as well.
The Hill bitched and said that this is all reactionary and we should hear from her doctors instead of experts to see if the abortion ban really caused their deaths.
Thanks to a GA judge who has actually read the state constitution. Love those states' rights, right MAGAts?
Based judge. The MAGAts can come fight me if they wish, but I’m standing my ground regarding the judge’s ruling.
@@Jolis_Parsecdon’t think your important enough
@@Jolis_Parsec standing your ground? About what?
@@aceboogy7958Why do seemingly all MAGAts never know the difference between "your" and "you're"?
@@SkipAd_Vegas Their renowned for they're great spelling & grammar 😉
The judge also shut it down because of the statements in the decision making process of the ruling.
Putting the deaths in perspective is important for the judge to take action. Also important for the rational decision making with or without the dire consequences.
Access to qualified female specific healthcare providers and affordable healthcare options is essential to our society and women are our society.
NEVER reward a Republican with your vote.
🙏 Amber and Candi 😰😭💔
💔💔😢😢 No amount of legalese will replace their loss. Knowing their deaths were preventable makes it worse.
I know its awful. That is also not counting the fact that we may never know how many women have died because of them taking away Roe.
Legislators should be held accountable.
No, it was the Supreme Court that did this. Mainly the three liars McConnell put there.
They save the death penalty for the ones who can’t afford good lawyers
I sincerely hope and pray the Supreme Court of the United States and its members who voted to end Roe vs Wade realize the horrific damage they have done and resign IMMEDIATELY!!!
@@Brigantia11 "Accountability" doesn't speak of death sentence. Don't be the jerk who does as the abusers do by topping violence with more violence when history is more than clear how that NEVER has any good outcomes.
Be the heck SERIOUS about stopping abuse and model the behaviour you want to see from your worst enemies!
Don't dehumanise! That's where the damn problem started. The sivk idea that there's any excuse EVER that justifies dehumanization!
@@meknotewe8155 Religious fanatics rarely ever see the harm to society that they do. :(
Thank you ProPublica.
I hope women speak with a loud, clear voice in Roevember and say "Keep Your Theology Off My Biology". In the words of our VP candidate, "Mind your own damn business" and "A woman's rights shouldn't depend on geography". I'll be voting in Florida to help restore women's rights, at least in our state.
As a Tennessean, I'll be following your lead and voting a straight blue ticket and doing all I can to oust Republicans who want to destroy our country and strip away our rights.
In Florida, it will never happen. Move to a state that aligns with your ideals. That's the entire point of states having independent autonomy from one another. That is specifically why our country is formed the way it is. Typical liberal though, because you believe something, everyone has to conform to your ideology. Sorry, sweetie, but that's not how the world works. Especially here in America, the more you push, the more you're going to be pushed back.
She poisoned herself with an abortion pill tho
i hope you know that amber's death had nothing to do with the ban. the abortion had already happened legally, her death was cause by medical incompetence. Vote how you will, but don't forget medical malpractice is an issue as well.
I'll just practice self control for now til our border is secured.
Safety first.
No man has the right to tell a woman what healthcare she should use, I support women's right to choose, end of discussion.
As do i, but do you also support the rights of the father to say he does not want to be a father?
@@rungfang27Then should male penises be cut off every time a woman says she didn't intend to get pregnant, or every time a medical emergency rises during a pregnancy???
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The father doesn't have to spend nine months carrying a child, so, no.
He can put in his 2¢.
Do you mean, do we support a man's choice to abandon a woman he got pregnant because he doesn't want the child?
@@rungfang27 Show me a man who is able to bear a child and he can have the right to his own body, the right to decide if he is ready to be a father.
Otherwise, the man can do what men have always done when they don't want children. Leave.
@rungfang27
He made his choice when he decided to have sex without protection. I'm assuming he also didn't know his partner well enough to know if she was on birth control.
Takes 2 to tango. It's also takes 2 forms of contraception to prevent pregnancy...
U can always take of yourself, too bro. It's actually easier for women to get off when they do that...
Use a sock = don't be a Daddy.
Also, last I checked, men don't have to pay for doctors visits after they get someone else pregnant...in fact in some cases, they don't pay for a thing...
As a Canadian I find this way past infuriating, shocking and cruel. How can women in your country, or for that matter, the men who love them, even think of voting Republican? We fought this fight 50 years ago!! So grateful to be Canadian, but terrified for my American sisters. 🇨🇦💙
Poilievre and his minions are ready to change that.
The US is nothing but a 3rd world "sh**hole" right now, in term of social unrest. 😂 Too many facists and dummies roaming the streets..
@@martinpenwald9475yep...I believe they are
Kemp, a Republican who said he was “overjoyed” when the ban first went into effect, said this week through a spokesperson: “Once again, the will of Georgians and their representatives has been overruled by the personal beliefs of one judge.” Are individual women owned by the State? Are they owned by the legislators? Where is the oft-touted love of Individual LIberty?
Republicans: "Women need men to make their decisions for them because they are too emotional to make them for themselves".
Kemp is a terrible person.
And yet they keep voting for him.
@@tricejenkins6573- Not all of us!
From the way Vance and other Republicans speaks about women is that we should be forced to have children. That we don’t have value unless we have children. It’s creepy and disturbing. My heart breaks for families who are suffering because they ended Roe vs Wade.
I hate that Republicans have done this to women
VOTE! 💙🇺🇸
The party of pure, unadulterated evil.
The Supreme Court is at fault here and I hope they now understand the damage they have inflicted across the entire country!!!
@@meknotewe8155they have addresses
Let me remind you all that up till 1963 thousands of Native and black woman where given total hysterectomies without their knowledge or consent courtesy of Conservatives that the Catholic church was complicit in. That should increase your feelings about them because it is fact and it will return if we lose. VOTE BLUE!
There’s nothing that hurts like losing a child. To lose a child because medical care was denied is barbaric.
This mother lost her child, because that child lost HER child.
I am thankful to Amber's mother for sharing her pain. She is an extremely courageous woman.
@@ArDeeMee Wrong. This mother lost her child, because healthcare and bodily autonomy was withheld by sexists and no safeguards stopped the implementation of dehumanising laws!
@@ArDeeMee explain what you mean. Are you saying Amber deserved to die.
The republicans are barbaric.
💙 Control Guns Not Girls 💙
Exactly!!! And states should ACTUALLY ENFORCE child support rulings as well as increase welfare payments for families with children!!!
If men have to pay child support, they should also have a say in the abortion decision. Maybe they want that baby, why do they not have that option? The women arent getting pregnant on their own, it is half the man's too.
These kind of people want to “save” babies but it’s open season for children in schools.
There are some seriously stupid people (maga) in this country who have no business making legislation based on feelings.
Thank you!
You're talkin sense, Cranky Dragon!
It's devastating that two women died for the rest of us to get medical care.
Strong, truthful statement!!! Hopefully SCOTUS now admits to the horrible choice they made and their lack of common sense!!!!!
@@meknotewe8155That would be nice but psychopaths have no feelings.
I would bet that there are MORE WOMEN who died because of that stinking POS TRAITOR's ban!!! Time to VOTE for HARRIS/WALZ 2024 and BLUE UP and DOWN the BALLOT
Only “the rest of us” in Georgia. The women in Texas are still in danger.
what medical care were you unable to get?
Their families should be able to sue the supreme court!
Laws are written in blood, this is one example of how. This is outrageous and upsetting what is happening to the women of our country.
The dead or dying baby's life is more important than the mother's. How is this respect for life? This is NOT Christianity. This is crazy.
@@Dreagostiniit's very upsetting, but I wonder if you have misread this particular comment
It's none of your business, you want to be christian and not have an abortion - go right ahead, it's your body, but anyone else - it's not your business.
I don't consider myself a Christian (and given how many "Christians" are today, I'm quite proud I don't consider myself one), but I was curious as to what the Bible said about abortion. So I looked it up. The Bible is quite clear on the matter. The life of the mother takes precedence over the life of the fetus. So these old farts imposing these laws are not only not "pro life" (as they claim to be), they are "Christians", either (as they claim to be).
Keep YOUR “Christianity” out of OUR politics. Out of OUR lives. You don’t agree with abortion? Don’t have an abortion.
The babies were pretty much alive..till their mother decided to end their lives
Woman aborts a baby... Would go to jail... but when policy kills two women, shouldnt the policy makers go to jail?
yes
@@PPPPSSSSCCCC No, only undeveloped fetuses deserve recognition.
/s just doesn’t cut it anymore. /c
Absolutely!
That has to come next. These extremists need to be held accountable to the rest of society.
If they go to jail, they just strengthen their own people who treat them like a martyr for the cause. I’d prefer they were forced to attend each and every gravesite every day (not at the same time as the family of course) and I’d like them to be forced to learn how the human body actually works and why using religion to create policies instead of science is so mind numbingly stupid.
The potential life of the fetus does not override the right to life of the Mother.
It always saddens me to see how deadly "Christian Love" can be.
As a man of faith (or so I delude myself), it is beyond disgusting.
As an Electrician, I am sadly not surprised that people had to die before we saw a problem.
Women used to die all the time from these same issues. That's why they fought so hard for the right to an abortion. It seems the right has a very short memory, or don't care. They seem to think the only reason women want this right is because we want to have sex outside of marriage without having to have a baby. Its idiotic. It seems like they just want to punish women.
The problem was seen. It's just that people first needed the guild of having caused death by their own decisions outweighed whatever feelings they falsely had in regards to the bodily autonomy of women, who such people are often taught to perceive as objects!
There is only one god, Mother Nature, and she says that the life of the mother must be preserved so that she can continue to produce offspring when the time presents itself.
“The unborn are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe.” -Dave Barnhart
Women saw it coming from a mile away and kept saying someone was going to die because of this. Its just rigid men and fanatical religious nuts that don't want to admit it until it happens to their wife or daughter.
Absolutely the utmost respect to that mother. That's some true bravery.
I'm so so sorry for your losses, Ma'am.
I’m a medical professional with 40 yr of experience, and had complicated pregnancies which included miscarriages. If I had tried to have my children now, both my children and myself wouldn’t be alive. It bothers me that so few News outlets speak of the MEDICAL side of this issue and only name it as “abortion”, when the greatest threat to women’s lives lay in the medical end! For an industrialized nation we have the HIGHEST maternal and infant mortality. This should scream attention in the media, but it remains largely ignored. Our women are last on the list for medical care, and women of color are even lower! If you’re thinking of your sister, mother, wife, female friends, and you’re heading to the ballot box….remember that Trump does not like women and you ARE the company you keep. He should NEVER be in the Oval Office again!
You are exactly right. This is a MEDICAL decision, not a political decision. This is between a woman and her healthcare provider. Nobody else needs to butt in or have anything to say about it.
Finally, a decent judge in a horrible state.
Good luck Judge!
Decent judge? He didn't anything until it was too late.
@@OzoPlaton Sadly thats how it goes. We all saw this coming but they don't do something until someone dies and it gets a lot of attention.
If only someone had told them this would happen. OH WAIT, THEY DID!
Thank you for informing America about the deadly cost to women the draconian “Right to LIFE” policies are. Pregnancy is sometimes complicated and deadly dangerous for the woman. If men could get pregnant, this kind of medical care would be immediately available in all 50 states.
The pro life party, NOT
They are the Forced Birth Party.
Republicans are the pro forced birth party. They don’t give a damn what happens to that baby after it’s born. They consistently vote against childcare, Headstart, and anything that would help a child after it is actually on the planet.
Thank you!!
2 BLACK women! Unforgivable.
I have been outraged since Roe was overturned. And there is nothing worse than a grieving mother talking about their child who died because of a LAW that mostly men passed that withheld needed medical care. If you value life make sure you value ALL lives making sure that the living come first!
This is 2024 and people are dying from bans that should never have been imposed. We need to ask why do we live in a place that rolls back laws and rights that were already won. Why can't those responsible for those deaths pay? Why can't they?
Thank you for this reporting.
That ban KILLED those beautiful women!!!
I'm so tired
So am I, but never give up. Dig deep, take notice of the little joys all around, monitor & limit your social media intake. Be judicious about the type of content you take in. YOU GOT THIS, GIRL.
we knew that this would happen. the public warned politicians. the experts warned politicians. and yet still ideology won out over reality.
it will happen with every single politician- money and power talk louder than reason and compassion.
You’re right everybody knew that this would happen that our love of self would be so great that the need to kill our children would send us into dangerous situations
If this happened why don't they present a real cases?
The women here did not die from the ban. Were they rushing because it was election season?
Women's rights determined by geography and men and some religious notion, is wrong and is it an infringment of the right to determine your own life.
Did you demonstrate? No, so quiet
It is utterly shameful those women lost their lives and the people that introduced such horrible laws should be jailed.
And all it took was a couple deaths… how pro-life is that?
The so called evangelical hypocrites once again have blood on their hands.
“The unborn are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus, but actually dislike people who breathe.” -Dave Barnhart
Good job ProPublica. Protect and support independent journalism!
And how many more women across the country have to die before women get back the right to manage their own healthcare and their own bodies?!?! Enough already. The Party of the family….what a load of BS.
They are the party of not giving a shit is what they are.
Be sure to vote out the Georgian governor as well, because HE CLEARLY does not have women's interests to do what she wants when it comes to family planning.
RIP Miss Thurman and Miss Miller. ):
Use Mrs. please! It's 2024. And it's sexistic that women's status is changed due to marriage status when men are always Mr. no matter what.
The results we see are results of systemic sexism. It's long overdue to sort out all instances of sexism. Especially these small ones. Because WE are the ones reaching abusers who is OK to dehumanise. WE are the ones teaching abusers that women's only worth is in being subservient to men.
These women were their whole own persons!
we all knew this would happen. it’s so devastating that people had to die for them to listen to us.
Doctors need to make a stand. I'm not a doctor, but if my patient was going to die if I did nothing, and I faced the risk of prison for taking action to save her, I would take action. Letting people die is not an option.
Damn straight!
I think people need to start talking about how these bans are affecting the mental health of our health care professionals. I worked with MDs/RNs for 20 years. It's a lifestyle, not just a career for most of them.
@@tenofivelips You're right. It's a big deal too to face losing freedom and a medical license to risk themselves.. Doctors should NOT be in this position. Also, when doctors act to save lives, they're inevitably going to fail sometimes because doctors aren't miracle workers. These women should not be collateral damage to idealogues. Government needs to be out of decisions between women, the people who love them, and their doctors.
You're asking doctors to wish their license and freedom? No. People need to stop voting for politicians that don't care when people die.
Doctors have families and children they need to support. I understand why they aren't willing to go to prison for 10 for the sake of a stranger.
I hope their families are suing!
The families should sue the state. Sue the politicians that ban abortion.
That Oprah special had me crying multiple times. That’s where we are as a country. I weep for my fellow Americans on the regular.
Janelle Monae needs to record a new iteration of "Hell You Talmbout" that has us "say her name" about all the women losing their lives because the abortion bans.
And thank you to Georgia for pulling your fingers out. What are all the other restrictive States using as excuses?
Nothing credible! I voted to help make Oklahoma blue, but that's likely not happening in my lifetime.
Never Again ! 💙💙💙
"We don't have rights in this country. Rights cans be taken away. We have PRIVILEGES." - George Carlin
Too late for these precious women, killed mainly by man made rules. The dark ages returned and will be even worse if trump gets back in. Women of America, your lives, and that of your daughters and granddaughters depend on you voting 💙
These woman did not die from the law.
It was malpractice, misinformation and the pill.
Thank you Pro Publica
Gee, and it ONLY took two completely preventable deaths to overturn this. 😡
THANK YOU PROPUBLICA!
thank y'all for bringing this to the public 💙💙💙💙💙 we're NOT going back!
So Kemp is OK with women dying? How is that not murder? Baffled as to how this was legal.
This judge is a true hero and explains women’s rights to their own decisions on reproductive healthcare.
My heart screams injustice for this woman, her son and her family. Why are MEN controlling women and their bodies? If I were a young woman of childbearing age I wouldn't even have sex, much less get pregnant because of the dangerous position women are put in in the US.
Yes though in reality many unwanted pregnancies aren't even the result of sex but the result if rape and it's particularly OFTEN the case with the unwanted impregnation of minors which most often is dobe by adult.
It's all just horrifying and everyone who has heard sexism of any instance and hasn't spoken up to stop if (if they could do so without risking their lives) has contributed to this. Everyone looking the other way when religious extremist spouted their abusive beliefs.
This is not a matter of "just" too maby abusers. This is a matter of "enablers of abuse" which starts with "ignorance".
@@KxNOxUTA Actually many unwanted pregnancies are the result of consensual sex, & over 50% of elective abortions are due to contraceptive failures. What sucks about these laws, is that several states don't even have exceptions for R/I, or if they do the VICTIM has to show PROOF of police report!! As if a teenager or younger CHILD can just trot themselves down to the police station to report that her trusted Male Family Member or Friend raped her! Or women can so easily just report on their rapist partner she has to continue to co-parent with!
4B and 2A
In sick inside about these women. They deserved their life liberty n happiness. Thank you for speaking out. The world needs to know these wrongs.
If you have to appeal a law because of this than it wasn’t a good one to start with!
YES
Thank God a judge who understands the constitution intervened. If prosecution of a law adversely effects a specific group of persons then it is unconstitutional.
It's always been pretty simple. If you don't want an abortion, don't have one. We do not need laws making choice impossible because of a PERSONAL belief. Laws have never stopped abortions. They have only increased death rates of women and children.
Heartbreaking when men make decisions about things they know nothing about but refuse to relinquish control which in the case of women's healthcare has and will cause unnecessary deaths
How about pharmaceuticals down playing their drug so they can make more money?
That's what happened to these women. Not the law
Sent in my mail-in ballot last week for Kamala, and received confirmation that they have it...💙💙💙 This attack on women needs to STOP!!! 💙💙💙
Me too!
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Protect women at all costs!
They should sue the state of GA.
That didn't age well. The GA Supreme Court reinstated the ban today.
so innocent people must die before these criminals give people back their rights? that's insane! 😢
We are not out of the woods yet. They are going to try and keep these laws. We are going to have to vote and fight them and watch them like hawks cause I'm positive they are always going to try and control women again in the future if we get Roe v Wade back.
I feel like the Supreme Court justices should have to face time for each of the deaths their idiotic rules have caused
Regulations are written in blood.
How can the governer appeal this ruling after the deaths of these poor women?
People need to know what the young women died of.
You do know what Google is don't you?
Men controlling womens healthcare.
Name one law that governs what a man does or cannot do with his body
TY!
For some reason people believe senators know more about pregnancy than doctors.
Thank you for your amazing reporting Propublica...again.
lawsuit. name all of the responsible lawmakers
How did she lose her life? What happened to her? Was it a dangerous pregnancy and they let her just die? What in the … very sorry for the families loss,much love to you
She had a miscarriage. Most miscarriages need medical intervention to make sure no material is left in the uterus. When dead material is left inside the body, it can cause sepsis. Which is an infection in the blood. As sepsis travels through the body it infects organs, shutting them down. It's an odd ban as women could get an abortion for miscarriages prior to RvW just because it's basic medical care.
No she had an appointment for a d&c, missed it because of traffic, the place she went to said they could give her an at home chemical d&c (pills) she took them, not all of the baby was passed from her and she sought help to late.
What happened is, that these women should have had heath care and be under the care for medical professionals when there's a problem, but because medical professionals risk their own lives and licenses (translated: lives of other patients they have, livelihood of heir own families, jail for themselves plus loss of livelihood) they cannot help and cannot be around and even in places with exception rules they MUST wait until no sexistic butt can argue anymore that the life of the pregnant person WASN'T endangered and that's usually the point where survival chances are already abysmal and the survival itself often comes with organ damage.
So don't let anyone tell you that this wasn't a result of dehumanising laws that withheld healthcare and bodily autonomy from pregnant people and doctors rights to practice safely!
@@rungfang27 victim blaming rears its ugly head once again.
If you are really interested, google it.
Common sense - at last! Shame it had to be a legal ruling and not a public vote in the first place…
Keep Trumps fingers out if your girlfriend Vote blue
These murderers claim they are pro life and protecting the unborn, but the child may already be dead or, will die when the mother does. If they are that pro life, let the woman get the care she needs and she can have another baby later. But it’s not really about protecting life, is it?
propublica, I love your reporting, you bring light to darkness. Ty for this story.
And some feedback: please use a different transition in the future. The transition here made me nauseous and was distracting. However your video and story are so compelling I must force through that because I want to see the compelling story you present.
We need NATIONAL level reproductive health care rights, so VOTE BLUE down the entire ticket -- from President all the way down to Dogcatcher. Give women a chance to live free!! Give doctors the right to treat patients without fear of prison!!
Judge McBurney, thank you.
This is ridiculous. There is an exception to any abortion restrictions, in every state of the union, if the mother's life is in danger. This makes no sense.
The complete story is not being told. She was late for her appt., so they gave her the pill instead, with the protocols being removed, and then she lay in hospital for like 20 hours and they did nothing.
Waiting till the mothers life is in danger is the problem. Doctors are not allowed to do anything till the mother is at deaths door. At that point it was only a matter of time when someone was going to die.
What makes this especially pernicious is that Georgia law doesn’t allow a referendum vote on it. So no - it’s not the will of the people. It’s the will of a gerrymandered legislature. I know it’s hard, but I’d be doing everything I could to get the hell out of these states.