I have to drive a new point at my mother's old house, as the existing one, at least 70 years old, is failing. (Was told by a professional that the screens on those old points eventually corrode.) Thank you for good, practical information. Am looking forward to beefy arms!
Thanks Sean! I’ll be putting in a new sand point at one of my investment property. This seems like hard work, but simple enough. 🤞 hopefully I can make it work!
QUESTION......why wouldn’t you install the check valve on the horizontal line to the pump??? The way you have it in the vertical well pipe, if you want to clean out or flush the line you have to remove the check valve in order to get down past it.
@@joequillun7790 i understand that either way will Work, however you if you want to clean it out or whatever you have to take all the piping apart because how do you get past the check valve???
How do you keep from messing up the threads? I got all well drive stuff and messed up the threads on the first drive point. It was tight. Guessing I shouldn’t used a sledgehammer to start it.
I've done a few of these now and I've only had that problem once, and that's when I used a drive "cap." You could try using thread tape and thread paste together. A few plumbers I know use both together all the time on everything. Also make sure to fully tighten with two pipe wrenches. Key word pipe wrench. But yes I used a sledgehammer when it gets about two feet above ground. Than I add another section of pipe and use the "pounder" again until I hit dirt, than again switch back to sledgehammer. Could be that your just not hitting it square everytime when using the sledge, (I wouldn't be able to either).
Good video Sean . I was wondering what size of pipe was your sand point ? Also I live in California's high desert and our soil is sand loam I'm hoping to try one of these sand points to get some water for irrigation . What type of soil do you have and what part of the country are you in . I only ask cause I want some sort of idea how deep I am going to have to drive the well before I hit water
You have to find out what the water table is in your area if you are doing a shallow well like this. I just found this out today for myself. Good luck!
@@notinterested9097 you can call anyone in your area that drills wells they will have that info or you can call your local government office they have that info as well. They keep a record of old drilled wells. But that info will be for drilled wells. Not sure if they keep info on point wells
No, I don't see how that would be possible. However you cannot pound a point well in your basement if you do not have a walkout basement. In other words if you can't walk outside from your basement you can't have a point well. If you plan on living there for years I'd say go for it. But if you plan on selling you better not. Most insurance companies will not insure a house with a point well with no walkout. You will end up paying for a drilled well when you sell.
@@Tom-pe3zf You would have to ask your insurance company. Where I live it's not allowed because the pump will never shut off if a pipe breaks. Basement would be completely flooded, well until the pump fries itself from being under water.
@@Tom-pe3zf it's hooked up to a pressure tank, so if there is not any back pressure the water will continue to run until it knows it's pressurized, which in this case would be never if a pipe breaks.
@@Tom-pe3zf here's the thing. Go ahead and do it, but know that when you go to sell your house you'll probably have to get rid of it and have someone drill a traditional well.
You don't have too, you just need to have the pump primed. Meaning make sure you add water to inside the actual pump. You have have to do this a few times, but after that you will never lose pressure.
@@Raceblizzard I know that, but you said "little cap in case I need to pour water in here whatever." Pouring water on top of a check valve will do nothing. To prime the well shaft you would need to put the T and cap below the check valve.
@@Raceblizzard That doesn't help get the air out of the well shaft. That's like spraying starter fluid in the carburetor while having an empty fuel line.
It was alot of fun breaking up that concrete. I can't put it outside because we get -25 degree weather in the winter. Keep in mind in most places you cannot drive a point in the basement unless you have a walk out basement.
@@Raceblizzard im not knocking it! makes sense and its nice to see someone who understands you dont need dowsing rods to find the water table. lol. But why no point well unless walk out basement? Flooding hazard or something? you got me curious on that one.
@@DieselRamcharger yah insurance companies don't like it. The last house I bought we had to pay for a drilled well outside because we didn't have a walk out basement.
@@Raceblizzard makes sense....i guess? would be kinda bad ass to turn your basement into a big ass hot tub. the well water around here comes out at 107 degrees. lol. damnit.
i have a sandpoint well on my property I bought and the pump burned out the first week I had the house. I just replaced the pump hooked it all up nice and tight...but I cannot get it to prime. I took the top lid off and tried filling the pipe going to into the ground but it just drains out. I have 28 psi on my air tank..but the pressure gage on the pump reads zero when I turn it on to see if its working. Any suggestions on what to do and yeah it has a check valve on it
I had the same problem again and it was my Union fitting. It wasn't tight. But the first time I tried pounding one it was my pipes underground that were not tight. That's why I bought those heavy duty couplings.
@@johnwahlers3363 Ill check in the spring its winter here now and cold af. I will replace the old check valve and see if that was the issue. Thanks for the suggestion
I have to drive a new point at my mother's old house, as the existing one, at least 70 years old, is failing. (Was told by a professional that the screens on those old points eventually corrode.) Thank you for good, practical information. Am looking forward to beefy arms!
Great trick with the water hose, thanks for the video sean.
That little pounder thingy is called a " mother in law "
Ok this was informative and funny as hell.
Good info on the video. Thanks for posting. Take a break now.
Thanks Sean! I’ll be putting in a new sand point at one of my investment property. This seems like hard work, but simple enough. 🤞 hopefully I can make it work!
you sneaky bastard. driving a sand point so you can say there is a well on the property. love it! and hate it. lol.
Good video. It's time for me to do this.
The drive point will work fine you just have to make sure its screwed all the way down so its supported by the top of the pipe not the threads.
QUESTION......why wouldn’t you install the check valve on the horizontal line to the pump??? The way you have it in the vertical well pipe, if you want to clean out or flush the line you have to remove the check valve in order to get down past it.
Because I get a better deal that way. You can install it the other way but your seal will prob fail.
I have mine on the horizontal also, but it doesn't matter. either way will work.
@@joequillun7790 i understand that either way will
Work, however you if you want to clean it out or whatever you have to take all the piping apart because how do you get past the check valve???
@@Raceblizzard the seal will fail because of the air trapped and in the upper vertical
Section ???
@@inthelandofmilkandhoney457 I guess I don't know why I would ever need to take it apart to clean the pipes or flush it.
You said it was 14 ft deep...plus the depth of the basement? So a total of 22ft?
Thx
My basement is ground level. So only 14 feet
How do you keep from messing up the threads? I got all well drive stuff and messed up the threads on the first drive point. It was tight. Guessing I shouldn’t used a sledgehammer to start it.
I've done a few of these now and I've only had that problem once, and that's when I used a drive "cap." You could try using thread tape and thread paste together. A few plumbers I know use both together all the time on everything. Also make sure to fully tighten with two pipe wrenches. Key word pipe wrench. But yes I used a sledgehammer when it gets about two feet above ground. Than I add another section of pipe and use the "pounder" again until I hit dirt, than again switch back to sledgehammer. Could be that your just not hitting it square everytime when using the sledge, (I wouldn't be able to either).
That item your using to drive the point is used to drive fence posts you can find them at any farm tool store
I need help with my sand point can u recommend anyone in wi someone lol
Watched a guy use a jack hammer to drive it easy on TH-cam. Looks good. What was your old water source?
Just had to move the point from one end of the basement to the other. And than move the waterlines and pressure tank. Wasn't too bad.
Good video Sean . I was wondering what size of pipe was your sand point ? Also I live in California's high desert and our soil is sand loam I'm hoping to try one of these sand points to get some water for irrigation . What type of soil do you have and what part of the country are you in . I only ask cause I want some sort of idea how deep I am going to have to drive the well before I hit water
You have to find out what the water table is in your area if you are doing a shallow well like this. I just found this out today for myself. Good luck!
00SkaterChick00 where can I find out about the water table
@@notinterested9097 you can call anyone in your area that drills wells they will have that info or you can call your local government office they have that info as well. They keep a record of old drilled wells. But that info will be for drilled wells. Not sure if they keep info on point wells
where are you located to get 10gpm from such a shallow well?
The pump probably has something to do with it but I am also in auger sand country along the tomahawk river
That was supposed to say sugar sand. Not auger
Top notch commentary. True shit talker
I have a question, if I drill a well in the basement, will the house collapse, the foundation or the walls?
No, I don't see how that would be possible. However you cannot pound a point well in your basement if you do not have a walkout basement. In other words if you can't walk outside from your basement you can't have a point well. If you plan on living there for years I'd say go for it. But if you plan on selling you better not. Most insurance companies will not insure a house with a point well with no walkout. You will end up paying for a drilled well when you sell.
@@Raceblizzard Thank you
@@Tom-pe3zf You would have to ask your insurance company. Where I live it's not allowed because the pump will never shut off if a pipe breaks. Basement would be completely flooded, well until the pump fries itself from being under water.
@@Tom-pe3zf it's hooked up to a pressure tank, so if there is not any back pressure the water will continue to run until it knows it's pressurized, which in this case would be never if a pipe breaks.
@@Tom-pe3zf here's the thing. Go ahead and do it, but know that when you go to sell your house you'll probably have to get rid of it and have someone drill a traditional well.
you use this for the water in your house?
Yes sir
@@Raceblizzard do you use a pressure tank
@@spencershaw2407 👍
5:20 How would you pour water in past the check valve?
You don't have too, you just need to have the pump primed. Meaning make sure you add water to inside the actual pump. You have have to do this a few times, but after that you will never lose pressure.
@@Raceblizzard I know that, but you said "little cap in case I need to pour water in here whatever." Pouring water on top of a check valve will do nothing. To prime the well shaft you would need to put the T and cap below the check valve.
@@uneektalent You can pop the cap off to add water to the pump to prime it.
@@Raceblizzard That doesn't help get the air out of the well shaft. That's like spraying starter fluid in the carburetor while having an empty fuel line.
@@uneektalent well I've never had a problem, so if you got a different way that works than congrats!
How do you shock well
I've never done it so I have no clue. Sorry!
Is the water good and has it ever gone dry ?
Water is really good, I had it tested and it tastes great. And it hasn't gone dry and it shouldn't since I found a good vein.
I subbed for the “China” . Lol.
Please….use a tripod! Dizzy watching this but it sounds good….
Sure no problem, I'll go buy a tripod, maybe a 4k camera, maybe even hire a director for my next TH-cam video. 🙄
@@Raceblizzard lol
Ty
I suggest renting an electric jack hammer to drive your wells.
I was going too but 15 feet didn't take me that long. Wasn't worth the 45min drive plus rental fee. But yes those do work good for pounding!
never seen a drive point well through the slab....
It was alot of fun breaking up that concrete. I can't put it outside because we get -25 degree weather in the winter. Keep in mind in most places you cannot drive a point in the basement unless you have a walk out basement.
@@Raceblizzard im not knocking it! makes sense and its nice to see someone who understands you dont need dowsing rods to find the water table. lol. But why no point well unless walk out basement? Flooding hazard or something? you got me curious on that one.
@@DieselRamcharger yah insurance companies don't like it. The last house I bought we had to pay for a drilled well outside because we didn't have a walk out basement.
@@Raceblizzard makes sense....i guess? would be kinda bad ass to turn your basement into a big ass hot tub. the well water around here comes out at 107 degrees. lol. damnit.
@@DieselRamcharger holy cow! That's hot!
i have a sandpoint well on my property I bought and the pump burned out the first week I had the house. I just replaced the pump hooked it all up nice and tight...but I cannot get it to prime. I took the top lid off and tried filling the pipe going to into the ground but it just drains out. I have 28 psi on my air tank..but the pressure gage on the pump reads zero when I turn it on to see if its working. Any suggestions on what to do and yeah it has a check valve on it
You must be pulling air somewhere. Probably a loose pipe connection somewhere.
I had the same problem again and it was my Union fitting. It wasn't tight. But the first time I tried pounding one it was my pipes underground that were not tight. That's why I bought those heavy duty couplings.
Did you put a check valve on your pump? Won't hold prime if you don't have one.
@@johnwahlers3363 Ill check in the spring its winter here now and cold af. I will replace the old check valve and see if that was the issue. Thanks for the suggestion
Remove the pump and use a large vacuum to pull the water up to the check valve. Install the pump, prime it and turn it on.
How do u know how deep u should go
Pound pound pound and test for water. Once you have your actual point filled you should have good water
Sean Totch thanks
@@Raceblizzard Need at least a foot past the 3 foot point.