You Have to Hear This Vintage Fender Blackface Amp on 10
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I’m not trying to be that guy and it may be bias but this is probably my favorite sound you’ve had
It's worth mentioning that EV speakers have much more punch and clarity. My 1965 Twin Reverb, much like your Pro, has a pair of vintage EV "Coffee Cans" in it, making for the best sounding 100 lb combo amp I've ever had the misfortune to carry and the fortune to play.
I once carried a silver face twin reverb 550 meters in my arms. I had to get it home and had no other choice. Wasn’t a full 100lbs like yours, but still. Back was out for a long time. Even still I prefer tube amps.
I had a Twin Reverb with 2 EV SRO (coffee can) speakers in it. Couldn’t crank it past 5 cause you couldn’t stay in the room with it. After 3 months, the speakers were sitting at an angle because they pulled the screws out of the baffle board.
EV speakers are incredible, I got a first-gen sro and a mesa-branded 12L...they color the tone just enough to make it tasteful, but transparent enough to let your playstyle and the rest of your rig have some impact on your sound
Hummmm.... i think there is a reason that Steve Harris has his signature tech 21 pedal equipped with a clone of His EV speaker cabinet for the DI o.0
Sound great. You need a TPS decibel meter display on the wall!
Two things: first, my main amp, and what formed my expectations of every other subsequent amp, for 35 years has been a Fender Twin Reverb. Tinnitus is real. Second, playing at volume with this kind of amp creates massive transients followed by quick decay but with “bloom” to the ambience created as you add more subsequent notes to the overall sound picture. It’s a kind of natural secondary feedback swell that we’ve all found pleasing since Clapton cranked his Les Paul through a Marshall JTM45. In the mid seventies amps like Mesa Boogies and Dumbles tried to emulate this through gain staging. The resulting effect is more sustain through less decay, evening out the transient with the subsequent sound picture and leading to the style favoured here and traceable right back to Larry Carlton and Santana. Clapton; all transient and rhythmic phrasing. Legato players; all smooth flow and phrasing using clusters to punctuate. Two different flavours. It’s interesting the role played by reverb (actual room reflection or artificial) in the first. if you listen to someone like Gilmour (e.g. the Time solo on DSOTM) it’s all transient followed by ambient bloom. Very dynamic. I think this is what impresses players when they play at high volume; it’s a “big” sound because of the way it fills space. You can get sustain at low volume, but it lacks dynamics and ambient effect. You get a greater focus of interest on the note events by both listener and player.
The DG solo from Time has tonnes of delay on it, that’s far more likely to be what’s causing the ‘bloom’ than the amp he is using
I saw a rig rundown with Scott Holiday (sp?) of Rival Sons and he was talking about trying to achieve a "wide vibrato" like the older days. He spoke on how the tones from classic amps at volume are responsible for that wide vibrato. They had to control the guitar and the note choice and style was greatly affected by it. In my experience, that it makes sense. The volume produces all of what you talked about and thus as a guitarist controls or reacts to it the style and note choices are all a result of this interaction and we can all hear it.
Listen to Cream live, Band of Gypsies live and on and on. I think it all makes sense
I owned most of the Fender blackface line at one time. (when stores couldn't give them away) The Pro Reverb was one of the last to leave. It went just before the Vibrolux Reverb which is the best gigging amp of them all. The only one that's left now is my 1965 Deluxe Reverb. While it doesn't have the power of the larger models, there's nothing better sounding. (although a '65 Bassman and a Strat........that's a sound!!!!). That said....none of these amps on 10 is that great. Between 6 and 8 is the sweet spot.
Totally agree on all points, especially the Vibrolux for gigging. Have had the gamut of amps over the years, vintage and otherwise, but my '64 Deluxe remains my favorite. You cannot beat the tone. I let a brown early 60s Pro go at one point due to hard times, and that was also a fabulous club amp.
The sound of a tube fender amp is glorious, just feels like an extension of your body, it helps you play better.
That's an amazing tone. Probably my favorite tone I've head on your channel.
So, now you can throw away your modelers. This is so much better!
They were some of the best tones I’ve heard… thanks for sharing
Fender amps are always the benchmark. I love my Soldano, Synergy, Marshall, Friedman, and Vox amps, but I always come back to my Fender amps (Tone King as well to be fair). Put a good OD pedal in front of it, and you can do just about anything.
To be honest... your polished playing style matches VERY well with a more raw tone. There is definitely something to this.
That's an awfully clean looking 65 pro reverb which sounds glorious.
Yeah, this is some of your best tone ever, for sure. Sounds amazing!
Best tone I’ve heard you play through. Incredible
Seriously different than your helix, fractal, insert device/plug in tone. And in my opinion better in every way. You actually sound inspired. Your notes aren’t just speed, they have direction too. And there’s a precision I miss on the other stuff. Glorious is the right word. Anyway my two cents.
Could not agree more!
For people freaking out about hearing loss, he's using a Fractal loadbox to attenuate the load. Calm down.
Could not have said it better myself.
It doesn't get any better than this
Say, what? Can you speak up, we're all deaf.
Wow this a great fit for.you by memory the best I ever hear you was the shur Bella amp. Snd I was shocked how great it was. It blew away all your model types. But I haven’t listened to it in awhile. But will today to compare
oh lord.... holy grail of guitar-sound... best sound ever heard!. great playing as always👍
John thank you for blues driver and for your pro reverb. It sounds great!!!!!!
I'll tell you what - Paul Rivera is an absolute genius because my Rivera sounds spot on to a vintage Blackface. I have a Clubster Royale recording with 6v6s and NOS tubes that absolutely rips!
Interesting. Since the Clubster Royale has an FX Loop and the Blackface doesn't.
Oooof that's really something. Thanks for sharing
Definitely glorious John
The Fletcher Munson Loudness Curve as it relates to Frequencies and how they are perceived is something every musician should be acquainted with. "Sounds at or below 70 A-weighted decibels (dBA), even after long exposure, are unlikely to cause hearing loss. However, long or repeated exposure to sounds at or above 85 dBA can cause hearing loss." No matter how wonderful or glorious anything sounds, I would never trade my hearing for it.
Some notable musicians who didn't take heed:
Brian Johnson from AC/DC was advised by his physicians to "stop touring immediately or risk total hearing loss".
Phil Collins essentially retired because of his struggles with tinnitus.
Eric Clapton has shared his struggles with tinnitus.
Neil Young has also dealt with hearing issues.
Pete Townshend from The Who has been open about his hearing loss.
Jeff Beck has experienced hearing problems.
Bono from U2 has dealt with tinnitus.
Sting has also shared his struggles with hearing loss.
Paul Gilbert is quite open about his hearing loss - high-frequencies are now inaudible to him.
This is why you should always use a low pass filter on modelers live, it just gets rid of all the crazy piercing high end that our ears are naturally more sensitive too. Also, as a musician it only takes a few weeks to get used to living with ear plugs in, and once you do that you can endure just about anything and know your hearing will stick around.
@@NateTheMehhow do you set the liw pass filter?
After playing in loud punk bands since the age of 15, in my mid 50’s I can’t hear much of anything above 12kHz. And I have serious tinnitus issues, which I have to live with 24/7. Be careful!
@@Newnodrogbob -6db per octave, and I set it down to like 2.5k~ish really you should use your ears to figure out what feels just right to you, above or below that 2.5k area sweep the filter till it keeps the sound clear but without too much piercing high end. This is for LIVE band volumes, you’ll absolutely be able to tell that it sounds more “amp” like when the roll off is dialed in right. I feel like when playing at home, we want more high end to makeup for the lower volumes. Good luck!
@user-ri3gh6yb5k I’m not quite sure if I agree about it watering things down, I’ve played over 100 shows at this point and I get just more into the music when I can actually hear and process everything else happened instead of it turning into a 100db indiscernible wall of sound. You just gotta train your brain with them in to perceive it as “loud enough”. The same thing allowed me to eventually use my phone at less than 20% volume once I convinced my ears to think That volume was adequately loud.
That right there is the difference between a tube amp vs a modeler. There's just a magic that happens with tube's that's unpredictable and oh so sweet.
Yep!
Awesome stuff. Great playing with some killer tracks/loops for the first 5 minutes. (Great playing and tones throughout).
You need to get a JTM 45/100 or a Superlead/Superbass/PA late 60s/early 70s and do the same thing.
The modelling stuff sounds good, and it gets the job done, but so does a blow-up doll. Every once in a while, you should get a taste of the real thing.
LOL, that cracked me up. Well put!
Amazing brother.
That was the best sound I've heard you play with. I loved it. The amp made some grumpy static-y noises that would need to be addressed, but the sound itself was spectacular. Plenty of attack and string sound, but creamy. I dig it!
I think that bit of crackle was coming from the volume knob on the Strat as he was gradually bringing it down from 10. He has some dust in the pot that needs to get blown out with compressed air.
@@stratfanstl Good observation!
NOW THIS I LIKE ❤️
Incredible. How about a video trying to get this tone out of a katana (as close as one can anyway)?
Yup, there’s nothing like pushing the power tubes.
Damn, dude. Great playing.
what i want to know is why in the fuck was no one making such killer fucking amazing tone with this amp in 1965? what the actual fuck!!!
Not sure why so many people commenting seem so surprised by how good this sounds.
I think for me personally the sound of a fender on 10 is not something I really had any notion of - I'd have thought it could be spikey/harsh/brittle etc?
Because lots of people today don't now anymore how spectacular a real good tube amp sounds because almost everyone is using the modeling stuff.
@@johnnathancordy Some can be quite like that, they're out there. When I used to gig a lot, pushing two BF Twins really hard, we'd always be on the lookout for more. Many candidates were like an axe to the brain.
Hello John, congratulations on your videos, it’s always a real pleasure! How do you manage to have such beautiful reverb and delay on your demonstrations??? Thanks in advance.

Sounds really good. Make a few TONEX profiles.
Got a 68 Bandmaster SF for $200. Turned out it has an AB763 (BF preamp), made in February 68. I got really lucky. Cost an extra $350 to get it serviced. I also picked up a 2x12 cab with EVM-12S speakers. Fantastic sounding rig. Using a Freyette PS-2 so I can really drive the rig without killing my ears.
Sounds absolutely glorious!
Several have mentioned Twin Reverbs with EV SRO speakers. One of my favorite all time tones is on Phil Keaggy with the Glass Harp's Live at Carnegie Hall recording from 1972. He has said in interviews that he was plugged straight into a pair of "hot rodded" Twin Reverbs with SRO speakers, turned up LOUD. He also used to throw a big trench coat over the amp, or turn it around facing back, to tame the highs. His playing through the 70's was almost exclusively Twins, Deluxes, or Princetons, and it always sounded more transparent and natural than others' big distorted tones, and moved effortlessly from clean to overdriven, without ever sounding, flubby, fizzy or harsh to my ears. I think he must have kept the lows turned way down to achieve that. His trademark pickup switching and mixing, volume knob dynamics, and riding that range between clean to overdriven without ever losing the natural stringyness of the guitar is what I always liked.
I have the 300w LF versions of those EV's in one of my orange cabinets and the 300w EV12L pros in my 1x12 theile cabs. Paul Rivera highly recommends the EV12 and EV10 for those high headroom fender amps and combos. To my ears, they have a low mid-range that feels ridiculously strong and takes almost any amp volume on 10. I like the pros for higher bandwidth @7khz vs all the other versions at around 5.5khz. On the other end of the spectrum those dual cone wicker speakers in the old magnatone M-14 combo amps are my absolute favorite for speaker breakup.
You should ask Jensen to send you some 100w alnico blackbirds to try out in that that fender! Id love to hear how they sound in it. I've been gassing for them since they came out and no one has really reviewed them yet. Peace!
Sounds awesome!!!
Came for the tones, stayed for the sawdust!! Great playing as always, Mr. Cordy.
I’ve been close to getting a helix after watching your Chanel and enjoy your lovely tones. This however is so glorious that you played some of the best Guitaring I’ve seen you play. Very cool man.
Also puts to bed my mind wrestle if getting rid of my Tone King Imperial for a modeller…
Love your playing and what a great amp to do it through!
Got Dayum! Best tone you've ever had.
That's some great guitar tone. That's about the maximum level of overdrive I use (sans blues driver). It kind of reminded me of what I shoot for often. The only issue I heard was that bottom frequencies (lo mids 250-600Hz) were a little too "loose" for my tastes. I bet putting a db or 2 around 1.5kHz and maybe a pinch between 4 and 5kHz would balance that a bit better.
10:38 scratchy volume pot...testimony to the fidelity of how you come through TH-cam. ;);)
sounds great! This is why tube amps will never go out of style because they have a life that all the modelling amps haven't quite been able to copy yet. However in a mix the average person can't tell.
Great playing as well. Greetings from Saskatoon, Canada
It doesn't sound that great to me. Obviously Fenders, and other americans have wonderfull cleans, but it always seems that guitarists want to have their cake and eat it too, by having that lovely scooped sweet clean, but getting a bit more drive. To me the results of pushing the Fender clean defeats the purpose of the amp, and that's why a whole industry ( dumble, mesa, rivera, various boosts and tube screamers etc) has grown around wanting the Fender amp to become a Marshall, but just for the duration of the solo, snd this compromises the basic design of the amp. Being used to the warmth of Marshall amps, I've often wished I could switch to a different sound for the cleaner rhythm parts, and at one stage switched between a Twin and a Plexi for exactly that reason. The Marshall sounds ill at ease trying to do that clean scooped but plummy american tone, and I'm sorry but driving most Fender amps to get a smoother drive tone doesn't work that well to my ear. In this demo, the amp sounded as if it was struggling to smooth itself out, and in the end sounded lumpy and a bit scratchy as it tried to do what it was designed to do, but sounded juddery and uncomfortable in its attempt to cruise into a smooth drive. At least it sounded harsh like that over TH-cam, so maybe it was better in the room. I believe part of the problem is also that the best drive tones are, to me, better played into a closed-back cab, and the unfocussed jangle was emphasised by the open backed cab in this case. But that's just how it seemed to me.
But have you tried it on 11? Thats where the magic happens. Just kidding, great video!
Well, one huge difference is how you played. I don't think I've heard you play that way before and I think a lot of other tones would sound great if they where played like this, so I can't say with absolute certainty that the recorded sound itself was in any way better than what you've presented in the past. The playing though definitely was special and absolutely better...Flocking well!!!
The thing is that this glorious sounding amp inspires you so much that you also strat to play different.
It's the whole interaction with the tubes the speakercab etc....
Modeling is ok but still far from the a real good tube amp.
Sounds incredible. But to be fair so do all of your Helix and Fractal patches.
We no longer need amps for good and professional recordings. But plugins and amp modelers will never quite capture that feeling and roundness of a tube amp.
Sounds amazing. I'm not sure any of the modelers ever really quite do this. I'd love to hear it with the volume at maybe 3 or 4.. not quite clean at the edge of breakup. Thx.
Lovely tone, would be interested to hear it with some tri chorus style modulation for 80s schmo sounds.
What a beautiful sound. Would be interesting to see how close you can get to it with Helix.
I was expecting you to look different in this video
😂
If I wasn't watching I would have thought Dumble. I appreciate the inspiration I get listening to you, I've played for 60 years and really enjoy your guitar playing
You're playing thru about the best there is. To me
Take a listen to him playing a suhr amp. I haven’t listened to in awhile but it had a little dumble vibe. At that point I thought it was his best sound ever. He has a video of him playing a suhr Bella. I just now revisited . It was great
Best tone I’ve heard on this channel
Fractal load box
Sell your tubes to buy modelers. Sell your modelers to buy tubes.
What do you mean, ‘what is the fuss about ?’. Nobody ever uses this amp at full volume, not on stage, not at home, not in rehearsal, and i doubt if it happens a lot in a studio ;)
Well i liked it…
By the noise that those pots are making, I guess is time to change the amp capacitors....the dc is leaking to the guitar...i dont believe that a fine guitar like that has scratchy pots.
Every guitar, how expensive they may be, will have scratchy pots aftwr a while.
Creamy!!
Best tone ever
Sounds good
Love me old school single channel amps with nice reverb. Can't go wrong with a Fender 🙂 You made it sound great Johnathan, really liked how you adjusted the volume knob on your guitar to show the clean up too. Rock on!
Mine works best at 11.
Your sound and tone was perfect - the strat tone came through. Your modeling tone for lead playing just doesn't have the hairyness nor bite. Pick attack and dynamics really break through as do the pick up choices (bridge vs neck).
Sounds great!
Brilliant playing! Just had may 66 Pro Reverb fully serviced. It is such a pleasure and inspiration to play.
Credit where credit is due: JNC sounded excellent here. What a full and inspired tone. The dude should record with this amp. Most of his fructal 6 toanzs are terrible.
Very articulate!
That’s aMAAZing. John, you may have covered it before but wgat pickups do you have in your buttercream Strat?
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I’ve been using valve amps turned up loud with an attenuator for decades. It’s the best way to get a great sound and dynamics while avoiding tinnitus
For as great as modeling is, there is still nothing like the real thing. I'm fairly certain you could dial this (the sound we hear listening to the video) up in the Fractal or Line 6, but it's still great to hear how this awesome amp can sound in all its glory.
amazing tones!! I mean you always have great tones but this is something else...
Eleanor Rigby picks up the rice in the church where a wedding has been
Lives in a dream
You're wicked awesome, John!
What IR were you using for the cab? Or were you attenuating with the Reactive Load box and capturing the combo?
i want to hear that amp with a Jackson Dinky or an Ibanez RG with a JOYO Rigel pedal XD!
Sounds great but I think you can get very similar tones out of a Boogie at much more manageable volumes.
Having had the experience of cranking that amp like that do you think it will help you with trying to dial in that kind of tone with Helix or Fractal?
John you’ve outdone yourself. Are these pickups the same as your other Strat?
A little farty. A transformer upgrade would help.
Fuck it just stack it with a Mooer Phoenix pedal.
Who needs a Dumble? That's some tasty tonage right there.
Were any boost/distortion pedals used in the intro? Sweet sound!
Much better than all of the other digital sounds.
What was the dB reading. Was anyone else in the house at the time
Your best tone. Sounds amazing.
I can almost smell it from Nashville!
What amazing vintage Fender tone!
Well if I have to….sigh
How much does it weigh?
You literally sound exactly as you always do. Maybe more vintagey
No, he sounds even better!
How about 8 1/2 now.
(Un)intentional Anderton's plug there?
Danish Pete takes the plug
Sounds very similar to the Pushed channel on the new Katana Gen 3 😉
Grown up tone. Incomparable to that other digital helix teeny bop sound.
I know your serious but I think this sounds worse than he normally does😂
@@hartlee1160 Apparently Munch's The Scream is a work of art. I think it's hideous. It's art, not engineering.
I’d call it farty