These are two of the greatest (no need to talk about gender) pianists in history, period, and it's useless to pit one against the other. In fact no one admired Alicia more than Martha, and I'm sure the admiration was mutual! Simply put: Alicia was better at being Alicia and Martha being Martha. After all, it would be sad if we remembered Alicia for being an equal or better version of Martha than Martha, and/or vice versa, no? They are both stupendous and a gift to the world of music! Vive la difference!
I'm sorry but I don't like the title of the video. Why should it be a duel? Why does it have to be one against the other? Let's enjoy both! Both are great pianists who are part of the top group of world pianism. Comparing always seemed absurd to me, but even more so when the chosen works and composers are totally different. Let's stop comparing and enjoy the different ways of interpreting music that each pianist has. You may like one more than another, but that does not mean that one is better or worse than the other, just different. Long live to the difference!
@@Janaceks_Dad Both have admired each other. No, they never played together. In the documentary, "Alicia's hand's", Martha talks about Alicia. Here's a trailer: th-cam.com/video/GBlYJnzbgCU/w-d-xo.html
I don't care about the title. I clicked on the video knowing what I thought about both pianists before I did so (I love them both dearly) and simply thought of it as a tribute rather than a duel. Whatever - 31 minutes of magnificent piano playing and great pictures. My thanks to Santosificationable for posting it. Whoever you are, my belief is that you too are a fan of both these pianists.
We don't? What do you think piano competitions, proficiency exams, and lessons have been about, forever? It's what piano playing is about! COMPETITION! Beethoven, Liszt, Chopin, Schumann, and on and on and on...all competed. It challenged and improved the quality and expectations so that we have the wonderful pianists and music of today!
I can only say that I had the privilege to enjoy both magnificent pianist, I miss Alicia and on April 9th I will attend Marta’s concert in Barcelona’s Palau de la Musica Catalana!! God bless all the magnificent artists that brought and bring so much joy to the world!!
For my own subjective taste, Alicia's playing moved me in ways Argerich's never did. But if you prefer Argerich, I would understand. Yes, they're both great. Objectively speaking, Larrocha had a MUCH larger repertoire - she basically gave superb performances of any composer/style - and I think Argerich has admitted as much. Argerich has kept the ability to play at the highest level to a later age than Larrocha did, much like Rubinstein did compared with Horowitz.
Don't agree De Larrocha did not play at the highest level at the end of her career. She ended her career in 2003, but before she retired she did play a lot of Mozart piano concerto's very well in the USA and Europe. Her repertoire was much larger than Argerich's repertoire. Argerich is very good in technical difficult works like Prokofiev's third piano concerto or Tchaikovsky's first piano concerto. But very strange Argerich never played Spanish works like Goyescas by Granados or Iberia from Albeniz. In fact, they are incomparable.
I saw a list of Alicia’s concert repertoire throughout her career. She too played the Prokofiev PC3 as well as Bartok PC2 as well as the Poulenc 2 Piano Concerto with the composer! Also earlier she played much of the 2 piano repertoire with husband Juan Torra. Both Martha and Alicia are great, but Alicia gets my vote.
What utter rot to try and compare or make a competition between them. Larrocha didn’t need a ‘competition’. She was so uniquely good, she simply became one of the greatest pianists who ever lived. Argerich a generation later, won every competition, simply because she’s phenomenal. I couldn’t do without either. What a disgusting world we live in where you have to chose. You don’t. They’re both bloody extraordinary, remarkable human beings. Enjoy!
De toutes façons, Alicia de Larrocha est pour moi un des sommets du piano. Mais faire un concours connaissant l’accomplissement de l’une et de l’autre … impossible ! 2 merveilles, si différentes !
Of course it took me four minutes to find out the wonderful pianists presented here side by side, are not presented playing the same compositions. Which warrants a tracklisting, and probably also the deletion of any pretention to comparison ambitions. It would have been nice to hear different interpretations of the same piece side by side
Es una gran estupidez comparar interpretaciones. Lo maravilloso de estas es la singularidad y lo que despierta en cada uno/a. Son grandísimas intepretaciones y punto. No hay metas, no hay competiciones, no debe haber comparaciones, solamente sentir y disfrutar de las diferentes y maravillosas visiones de estas grandes y universales pianistas.
Not only can these two iconic pianists not be compared, the music chosen here cannot be either. It's quite a pointless thing to do. But if nothing else, it's a great photo show.
Consider though, that in the 19th century these kinds of "duels" were common - and the pieces played by each competitor was, well, nothing similar to what his rival played. Glad you liked the photos though, which I chose.
@@berndbrackman4443 i guess Bach , Beethoven and Mozart were not real artists then . People tend to forget that music is still a form of entertainment, there is nothing wrong with it and nothing wrong to acknowledge it .
So, are you saying that you have sat as a judge at a piano competition? If not, perhaps this is a little taste? The judges have to compare competitors on many different points. Hopefully, the pianist can show their skill in many genres of piano literature, at least if they can't they don't win the competition. You can't think that Larrocha and Argerich didn't participate in competitions! Of course they did, and neither they nor their fellow competitors were required to play the same piece!
Alicia de Larrocha by far in my opinion, she's the only pianist in my mind up there with Horowitz in terms of virtuosism mixed with soul. That not subtracts anything from Argerich, another brilliant pianist for sure.
As much as I adore Alica, she wasn't really at her best in most of her commercial recordings (and she was sadly let down by Decca's typically bass heavy sound and poor acoustics)...compared with her live performances of the same pieces, the studio versions sound too inhibited. Just compare her amazing live Liszt Sonata with the Decca recording...as the live performance shows, she was certainly of capable of great playing. Argerich, on the other hand never has this problem...she always sounds so uninhibited and spontaneous in recordings or live, even though her playing is often too fast.
It would be fairer to compare Martha Argerich and Maria João Pires, both good and current piano virtuosos. But Alicia de Larrocha belongs to a bygone generation of excellent musicians now extinct. The video tries to compare a modern pianist with a teacher from the past.
Mi rifiuto di un confronto così demagogico. Ogni essere, ogni Anima ha il diritto di esistere, comprese limitazioni ed errori. Se volete continuare a fare confronti inutili e fuorvianti, fate pure. Nelle due grandi interpreti, sono imparziale,: assegno ad entrambi la palma d'oro, pur con certe differenze. Ogni Anima ha il diritto di esistere, e basta con questi inutili e sterili confronti .
AS pointless and misleading as this video is......Argerich, and not even close. With much respect to ADL, she was perfect but not transcendent in my opinion.
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These are two of the greatest (no need to talk about gender) pianists in history, period, and it's useless to pit one against the other. In fact no one admired Alicia more than Martha, and I'm sure the admiration was mutual! Simply put: Alicia was better at being Alicia and Martha being Martha. After all, it would be sad if we remembered Alicia for being an equal or better version of Martha than Martha, and/or vice versa, no? They are both stupendous and a gift to the world of music! Vive la difference!
I'm sorry but I don't like the title of the video. Why should it be a duel? Why does it have to be one against the other? Let's enjoy both! Both are great pianists who are part of the top group of world pianism. Comparing always seemed absurd to me, but even more so when the chosen works and composers are totally different. Let's stop comparing and enjoy the different ways of interpreting music that each pianist has. You may like one more than another, but that does not mean that one is better or worse than the other, just different.
Long live to the difference!
They were temperamentally very different artists, but both equally great...did they know each other?
@@Janaceks_Dad Yes!
@@lisilisin Did Argerich admire her playing? And did they ever play any of the repertoire for 2 pianos? If so, it unfortunately wasn't recorded...
@@Janaceks_Dad Both have admired each other. No, they never played together. In the documentary, "Alicia's hand's", Martha talks about Alicia. Here's a trailer: th-cam.com/video/GBlYJnzbgCU/w-d-xo.html
Long live to the difference! - Great I agree with every word
I don't care about the title. I clicked on the video knowing what I thought about both pianists before I did so (I love them both dearly) and simply thought of it as a tribute rather than a duel. Whatever - 31 minutes of magnificent piano playing and great pictures. My thanks to Santosificationable
for posting it. Whoever you are, my belief is that you too are a fan of both these pianists.
They're both great, we don't need to pit them against each other. Or any two artists in general.
The purpose could be to point out how many qualities, they share. Please alter the headline. Cut "Duel" and emphasize the mutual.
We don't? What do you think piano competitions, proficiency exams, and lessons have been about, forever? It's what piano playing is about! COMPETITION! Beethoven, Liszt, Chopin, Schumann, and on and on and on...all competed. It challenged and improved the quality and expectations so that we have the wonderful pianists and music of today!
I can only say that I had the privilege to enjoy both magnificent pianist, I miss Alicia and on April 9th I will attend Marta’s concert in Barcelona’s Palau de la Musica Catalana!! God bless all the magnificent artists that brought and bring so much joy to the world!!
For my own subjective taste, Alicia's playing moved me in ways Argerich's never did. But if you prefer Argerich, I would understand. Yes, they're both great. Objectively speaking, Larrocha had a MUCH larger repertoire - she basically gave superb performances of any composer/style - and I think Argerich has admitted as much. Argerich has kept the ability to play at the highest level to a later age than Larrocha did, much like Rubinstein did compared with Horowitz.
Don't agree De Larrocha did not play at the highest level at the end of her career. She ended her career in 2003, but before she retired she did play a lot of Mozart piano concerto's very well in the USA and Europe. Her repertoire was much larger than Argerich's repertoire.
Argerich is very good in technical difficult works like Prokofiev's third piano concerto or Tchaikovsky's first piano concerto. But very strange Argerich never played Spanish works like Goyescas by Granados or Iberia from Albeniz. In fact, they are incomparable.
I saw a list of Alicia’s concert repertoire throughout her career. She too played the Prokofiev PC3 as well as Bartok PC2 as well as the Poulenc 2 Piano Concerto with the composer! Also earlier she played much of the 2 piano repertoire with husband Juan Torra. Both Martha and Alicia are great, but Alicia gets my vote.
Título absurdo e innecesario para disfrutar del arte más que sobresaliente de dos pianistas maravillosas. Menudo Scarlatti, y qué decir de Iberia!
What utter rot to try and compare or make a competition between them. Larrocha didn’t need a ‘competition’. She was so uniquely good, she simply became one of the greatest pianists who ever lived. Argerich a generation later, won every competition, simply because she’s phenomenal. I couldn’t do without either. What a disgusting world we live in where you have to chose. You don’t. They’re both bloody extraordinary, remarkable human beings. Enjoy!
De toutes façons, Alicia de Larrocha est pour moi un des sommets du piano. Mais faire un concours connaissant l’accomplissement de l’une et de l’autre … impossible ! 2 merveilles, si différentes !
Misleading header. Different repertoire and different artists. I witnessed their mutual friendship and admiration.
Alicia forever
Oh, it‘a difficult.
Mmm....................can’t choose.
Of course it took me four minutes to find out the wonderful pianists presented here side by side, are not presented playing the same compositions. Which warrants a tracklisting, and probably also the deletion of any pretention to comparison ambitions.
It would have been nice to hear different interpretations of the same piece side by side
De Larrocha is better in every aspect. Her clarity, beauty of singing sound is unsurpassable. Speed is not everything
You might want to Martha’s Chopin 3rd Sonata from this year. Nothing is about speed
@@asalj4014 I am not a fan of Martha playing Chopin I like her in Prokofiev Bartok etc
Both are fucking amazing (Argerich being my personal favorite) but I don’t think one is better than the othwr
Deveria ser uma comparação entre as duas executando as mesmas peças e não peças diferentes! Abraços!!
make it a duet!
Alicia!!!
Es una gran estupidez comparar interpretaciones. Lo maravilloso de estas es la singularidad y lo que despierta en cada uno/a. Son grandísimas intepretaciones y punto. No hay metas, no hay competiciones, no debe haber comparaciones, solamente sentir y disfrutar de las diferentes y maravillosas visiones de estas grandes y universales pianistas.
Not only can these two iconic pianists not be compared, the music chosen here cannot be either. It's quite a pointless thing to do. But if nothing else, it's a great photo show.
Consider though, that in the 19th century these kinds of "duels" were common - and the pieces played by each competitor was, well, nothing similar to what his rival played. Glad you liked the photos though, which I chose.
@@Santosificationable Real artists are no circus acts. And have never been that. Not even in the nineteenth century.
@@berndbrackman4443 Yes yes yes, because everyone knows you were TOTALLY there.
@@berndbrackman4443 i guess Bach , Beethoven and Mozart were not real artists then . People tend to forget that music is still a form of entertainment, there is nothing wrong with it and nothing wrong to acknowledge it .
So, are you saying that you have sat as a judge at a piano competition? If not, perhaps this is a little taste? The judges have to compare competitors on many different points. Hopefully, the pianist can show their skill in many genres of piano literature, at least if they can't they don't win the competition. You can't think that Larrocha and Argerich didn't participate in competitions! Of course they did, and neither they nor their fellow competitors were required to play the same piece!
Larrocha was a musician pianist profound. Argerich a thecnical prodigy fast playing
Alicia de Larrocha by far in my opinion, she's the only pianist in my mind up there with Horowitz in terms of virtuosism mixed with soul.
That not subtracts anything from Argerich, another brilliant pianist for sure.
Can't chose, of course...
There is a reason all the Suzuki piano music was recorded by Alicia. She plays so even a child can hear the pure interpretation of the music and learn
Should be DUET not DUEL
a worthy duel. RRRRRRAAAAAHHHHHH!!!!!!!
As much as I adore Alica, she wasn't really at her best in most of her commercial recordings (and she was sadly let down by Decca's typically bass heavy sound and poor acoustics)...compared with her live performances of the same pieces, the studio versions sound too inhibited. Just compare her amazing live Liszt Sonata with the Decca recording...as the live performance shows, she was certainly of capable of great playing. Argerich, on the other hand never has this problem...she always sounds so uninhibited and spontaneous in recordings or live, even though her playing is often too fast.
Stupid way piano duel.
Every people is different and great, so Larrocha and Argerich are amazing
Can someone tell me the title of the second piece of Albeniz played by de Larrocha? I'm trying to learn it.
Triana ,segundo cuaderno de Iberia
@@friedrich1012 Thank you.
Really.......I would strongly tell you: don't compare the incomparable!!!!!!
Very strange Argerich never played the Spanish piano music. Like AdL did. And how.!
Not completely true, Argerich played Falla's Noches en los jardines de Espana!
messi duel ronaldo,,,... basta de tonterias
It would be fairer to compare Martha Argerich and Maria João Pires, both good and current piano virtuosos. But Alicia de Larrocha belongs to a bygone generation of excellent musicians now extinct. The video tries to compare a modern pianist with a teacher from the past.
Pires is a very good pianist, but I would never call her a piano virtuoso...
Mi rifiuto di un confronto così demagogico. Ogni essere, ogni Anima ha il diritto di esistere, comprese limitazioni ed errori. Se volete continuare a fare confronti inutili e fuorvianti, fate pure. Nelle due grandi interpreti, sono imparziale,: assegno ad entrambi la palma d'oro, pur con certe differenze. Ogni Anima ha il diritto di esistere, e basta con questi inutili e sterili confronti .
Miss Argerich for sure !
Definitely Argerich!
and for me it would be definitely ADL, but they are both great
Nop. Larrocha for me
AS pointless and misleading as this video is......Argerich, and not even close. With much respect to ADL, she was perfect but not transcendent in my opinion.
I would say just the opposite. Argerich plays anything and everything, so is a profound interpreter of nothing.
REALLY? Have you heard her Triana from Iberia (for example)...I think Argerich would probably make a mess out of this piece..
@@ransomcoates546 Preconceived ideas are very good, provided that they are not transformed into fixed ideas. (Louis Pasteur)
@@Janaceks_Dad How could you know ?