Jimmy McNulty, the Captain of the CRJ, was heard exclaiming immediately after the collision, "What the fuck did I do?" (If you know, you know; if not, you will)
Looks to me like that small plane wasn't pulled up to the hold-short line, and the A350 was taxying on the centerline. So, please let's not be blaming the wrong people.
Not “boss,” cowardly behavior, figures it’s an Airbus, they’re from France. The A350 saw him just.fine. He rolls away with his winglets like 🤷♂️, trying to play it off. Go ahead and tell that to the, now tailless, little jet and his family. It should be a “B350,” Alphas don’t bully. Do you think that kid will ever be airworthy again? DO YOU? Well if he is it’s gonna be a long road of surgeries and rehabilitation for the kid. Even if the little guy was in the way it’s still assault with serious bodily injury.
The A350 pilot was quick to say that his aircraft was on the centerline of the taxiway. It is fortunate that neither the fuselage or the engines of the CRJ were struck.
@@ProjectNemesis92 These subtitles say off the center line but to me it sounds like the A350 pilot said on the centerline. Worth another listen. The CRJ was clearly not stopped or holding at the required stop bar. They were well back from it.
The A350 was Taxiing reasonably slowly so for the Entire Stabilizer & Engine of the CRJ to fall off seems like the Stabilizers were NOT attached sturdily. How could they be so easily knocked off?? And did the A350 sustain any damage to the Wing at all??
@@kojoharrison630 And modern big jets like the A350 have cameras trained on the nose wheel and main landing gears to help the pilots stay on the centerline and the paved runway.
@@kojoharrison630 You don't understand LEVERAGE do you, tails are NOT designed for sideways loads, and especially when applied near the top of the tail where the leverage is greatest. If the wing had hit closer to the base of the tail it might not have broken off.
2:12 It sounds to me like the A350 pilot said that they “were ON centerline”, but the video closed captioning said they “were OFF centerline”. Perhaps someone with better hearing than mine can chime in.
I mean, it's made out of composite materials just like the 787 though. It even survived the impact with the Dash 8 and still intact before it was engulfed on fire.
Looked like the CRJ is a reasonable way back. I know "hold short" means not to cross the line, but are pilots holding short required to stop within a certain distance of the line?
@@TravellingTechiefirst of all, you are wrong, and second of all you are right😂. Other aviation channels have already measured that the plane was 40 feet (at least) short of the hold line. And as you point out that still should but result in an accident. But the comment above that you’ve replied to is actually (and factually checked) a correct observation. The comment you’ve replied to is right and the second sentence of your comment is also right!
@@christopherwarshno, that’s not correct, the CRJ was instructed to hold at the hold line, but it was 12 meters away from the hold line. The A350 was given clearance to proceed as it was assumed by traffic control that CRJ was in position
Looks like the CRJ was well short of the hold line to cross active runway because if the A350 was on the center line taxing that incident should have not happened
2:11 I "Think" .... The A-350 pilot said "we were off center line"...Which way was he off? blancolirio (Airline Ground Collision- Atlanta GA.10 Sept 2024 You Tube channel) did a pretty good break down of distances and clearance of that "Intersection"...
I was wondering whether it actually was in the normal position but was subsequently towed back from the hold short line (presumably to allow the runway to re-open). if you look at the airport diagram in the normal course of events that A350 was supposed to simply line up behind the CRJ. But for some reason it appears they wanted to head back to the ramp - there was some problem they had reported prior to the accident and they had actually wanted to stop. Ironically had the controller allowed them to stop rather than tell them to continue, the accident would not have happened.
That tail attachment design needs to be looked into. I would have thought it would be stronger than that. The vertical spar and banjo attachment should be one piece. It shouldn't break off like it did.
Yup, no doubt about it, for, whatever reason, the CRJ was quite a distance from the hold short line, which put its tail too far out onto the taxiway when the 350-900 came by, and thus the collision....
CRJ is at fault for not pulling up to the "Hold Short" line, so its tail is out by a few inches. A350's pilot view can't see the wingtip, so they can only go by ATC clearance and staying on the center line of the taxiway, which they supposedly did.
I am sure lots of them will be calling personal injury attorneys anyway. Many will hoping for a big payday. PTSD you know. This is the world we live in, sadly
Correct. They were not holding at the correct position. I wonder if they told ATC they were at the holding point awaiting clearance for takeoff before they got whacked by the 350...
@@cdocker3070 Wrong, Juan measured it all out and the CRJ was 50 to 60 feet short of the Hold short line, the CRJ is 118 feet long and there should have been 40 feet of clearance but there wasn't because the ass hat CRJ pilot is scared shitless of pulling up to the Hold Short line and left too much of the CRJ's ass hanging out in the taxiway space.
Sort of. The winglet, a good chunk of the wing, and anything around them would not be visible to the flight crew of the A350. HOWEVER, the flight crew would have seen the CRJ900 as they approached that intersection and should have been aware the plane was there. Regardless if the CRJ900 was in the correct spot or not regarding the hold short line for the runway, the A350 crew should have known the CRJ900 was there and there could be a potential clearance issue. The crew of the A350 lost situational awareness and failed to maintain visual separation.
The pilot of the A350 is too funny 😃. He says he was on the center line. When driving down the road and some care sticks out of some driveway, you don't have the right to hit it because you were in your lane!!!😡
CRJ was 40ft short of hold line My guess is A350 pilots were busy doing ten things before takeoff and weren’t watching out the window enuf. Distracted driving. Don’t text and drive
Juan Blancolirio measured it all out and the CRJ was 50 to 60 feet short of the Hold short line, the CRJ is 118 feet long and there should have been 40 feet of clearance but there wasn't because the ass hat CRJ pilot is scared shitless of pulling up to the Hold Short line and left too much of the CRJ's ass hanging out in the taxiway space.
Amazing this isn't a weekly occurrence, given runway congestion and operation tempos at larger airports. Fortunately everyone is safe, and this gives an opportunity to evaluate swing-out tails to improve both boarding and deplaning.
I noticed that the CRJ had not pulled all the way up to the hold short line. I’ve had issues with this practice by many captains who do this in spite of the fact that you have aircraft taxiing behind you. It unnecessarily reduces the amount of clearance between the tail of a parked aircraft and the wingtip of a taxiing aircraft.
CRJ was not moving. Located satellite image. 33.645780° -84.437995° The CRJ was at the hold line for 8R-26L. So this is an airport desigh problem with a hold area that occupies part of the intersecting taxiway which may have worked for a domestic airport with lots of narrowbodies, but not with planes having large wingspans. UPDATE: just saw a CBS news report and one of the camera view point shows the CRJ in relation with the hold line. About 2 car lengths between nose of aircraft and the hold line. Not sure what is normal/expected.
I see things in this country that I didn't think would happen in a developed, first world country. I've never seen things like this in the country I come from.
This seems to be an odd position for DL295 if I understand the details. It was heading for Tokyo (HND) I think. It was past the entry departure point (F2) for an east bound departure. Anyone have any other clarifications? I fly out of ATL every week and sometimes a couple times a week and am quite familiar with departure patterns. I would have expected them to hold short of F2 to sequence for the departure. 0:37 V is just a taxi way for arrivals. Not the route to go from the F concourse if you even wanted to get to the South departure runways. I’d like to know why he was beyond F2. While any accident is dangerous, this is a fully fuel loaded set of aircraft. As a note, there were probably four (4) flight crew members on the flight deck for this long haul flight. What runway was DL295 departing from. It looks like he was going to 8R also, so how was he beyond the taxiway to enter 8R. I sincerely doubt he was heading for 9L which is on the south side and he was on the North side. Glad things worked out for both well. A little more info I got from another site. DL295 had asked ATC if the could move out of sequence to work out an issue. Possible when that happened the cockpit was no longer “sterile” for taxiing. It will be interesting to find out what the FO was doing as he is in the right seat.
Scary to see how easily the entire tail assembly moved to the side. Makes me wonder how well made the CRJ is. If I were one of the CRJ passengers, I'd take one look at that tail and make Amtrak reservations
Same CRJ-900LR I was plane sporting in Buffalo, NY… N302PQ I hope it never gets repaired because you see these things at every airport and it is so common
Installing side view and rear view cameras in the cockpit could indeed prevent loads of damages. Having that additional visibility, especially during ground manoeuvres or taxiing, would give pilots a clearer picture of their surroundings. It would be a bit like having extra eyes on the aircraft, reducing the likelihood of accidental bumps or scrapes. In the end, it could save airlines a fortune in repairs and downtime, not to mention enhancing safety overall.
It’s an extremely tight ship they run in Atlanta. Hats off to all my Delta Captain and First Officers for all the uneventful flights I’ve personally had.
If you look at 1:59 and again at 3:08 you can see how far back from the hold-short line the CRJ was. I would think that was the main cause of this accident. At 2:13 the caption says "We were off the center line", but it sounds to me as if the A350 pilot is actually saying "We were on the center line". The A350 pilots have no way of seeing the aircraft's wing tips as they taxi, so they have to rely on keeping the nose on the center line.
I think both planes had the proper clearance given. Looks like the crj was not close enough to the hold short line, but the airbus can’t see its wingtips to know if a collision was eminent. So really hard to say who’s at fault. The crj should have known they were too short of the hold line, but the airbus pilots should have known the crj was sticking out too far. But if the crj was fully at the hold line, there would have only been 40 feet of clearance between the two planes. 40 feet in my opinion is not a good enough margin of error for a best case scenario especially when neither pilot can actually see the potential contact points. I don’t think clearance should have been given to the airbus to taxi. If a larger plane were holding short like the crj, then the collision would have also happened. So that entails atc knowing the exact dimensions of all aircraft involved.
The A350 was taxiing to the right of the center line and the RJ had stopped significantly short of the hold line. This was bound to happen sooner or later
I'm reading on other channels that the 350 was a bit ti the LEFT of centerline. Juan Blancolirio measured it all out and the CRJ was 50 to 60 feet short of the Hold short line, the CRJ is 118 feet long and there should have been 40 feet of clearance but there wasn't because the ass hat CRJ pilot is scared shitless of pulling up to the Hold Short line and left too much of the CRJ's ass hanging out in the taxiway space.
The CRJ has been checked by another aviation channel and it proves the CRJ was at least 40 feet (12 meters +) short of the hold line. Making its tail protrude------- I’m not a pilot, but procedure is for first officer to ensure clearance of wingtip on that side of the plane, as the pilot was on other side of plane and is responsible for the left side wing clearance.------Also the A350 was dealing with a technical issue and was taxiing away from the runway to be clear of the takeoff queue.------seems to be everyone’s fault in some way, CRJ pilot, captain of A350, and first officer of A350. And the A350 itself!!
You can’t see the wing tips from the cockpit on any large aircraft, it’s physically impossible, even if there had been cameras available I doubt they would have able to stop in time to avoid the contact.
Wonder what will be the financial settlement between Delta and Endeavor. Full value of plane? Repair estimate? Or only a portion since CRJ was in wrong spot? Or like basketball, foul goes to plane that was moving which was 350? Would love to hear negotiations on that.
The video shows that the CRJ was about ~30 meters before the hold short line. Were it correctly positioned, or even only a mere 5 meters more close to the line, this accident would not have happened. But also, the ground ATC should have been aware of the situation, IF he had a line of sight to the scene, and should have warned to A350 crew to stop. I guess the A350 pilot is probably not to blame, because he cannot see his wing and must rely on ATC taxi instructions to provide for sufficient spacing.
From what I’ve seen, it looks like the CRJ stopped short of where it should have. If it’d stopped further forward the centre line of the taxiway would’ve given them plenty of clearance
Caption is wrong in a serious way that will lead to misattributing fault. They didn’t say “we were off center line.” They said “we were on center line.”
It doesn't matter if the 350 was on center line or not. That guarantees NOTHING. The Captain will wear the can for this even though a sharp F/O on the collision side should've sounded a clear warning. It wasn't even close.
That is why they have centerlines. The CJR looked like it didn't actually reach the hold line. If the A350 was not on centerline, I can see how they hit.
"We removed our tail for you, to make your every wish come true. Here at Delta Airlines we remove our tails for you." - apologies to Continental's old jingle.
Honestly anyone who keeps insisting the A350 pilot said "off centreline" needs their hearing checked. I am not being disingenuous - I literally mean that you need to see an audiologist as you likely have hearing damage.
I have a question. Why couldn’t aircraft have 360 degree cameras like so many cars now have, wouldn’t that improve overall situational awareness in the cockpit? In some past emergencies many pilots really didn’t know what shape their aircraft is in until they land
"The whole tail of that CRJ is off". The ATC was solid cold.
I am rather surprise just how easily the tail separated from the fuselage of the aircraft.
@@ABQSentinel ...and it didn't even move the airplane? looks like the right winglet is ALSO missing, where'd that go?
Yo, dude, next level cold. that's what it is
@@davidelliott5265😂
@@ABQSentinel no reason to design it to wiithstand impact from a 600,000 lb taxiing airplane
That Southwest 737 casually walking by😅
It's like, nope, not my fault. Keep walking.
@@VLC-Construction 🤣
@@VLC-Construction At least "not this time".
"Not my circus, not my monkeys; where's our gate?"
A350: why that southwest MCASliner laughing at me?
Meanwhile the CRJ at background: my leggg!!!
Runway rage taken to the next level 😅😅.
Yeah, no kidding. Crazy stuff happens on runways this year, and again it involves an A350.
"We just hit something on the taxi way can you tell us what it was"
Not what I would call rage!
Jimmy McNulty, the Captain of the CRJ, was heard exclaiming immediately after the collision, "What the fuck did I do?"
(If you know, you know; if not, you will)
If there's one thing 2024 has taught us, it's that the A350 loves messing up small planes
💀
and it still has a best safety record for any modern plane
Yea they have a weird obsession with small planes
Looks to me like that small plane wasn't pulled up to the hold-short line, and the A350 was taxying on the centerline. So, please let's not be blaming the wrong people.
😂 she's the boss
A350: I'll show you who's boss.
Ur fired
LOL
It's like watching a bully walk by a smaller kid and knock off the kid's hat.
Not “boss,” cowardly behavior, figures it’s an Airbus, they’re from France. The A350 saw him just.fine.
He rolls away with his winglets like 🤷♂️, trying to play it off.
Go ahead and tell that to the, now tailless, little jet and his family. It should be a “B350,” Alphas don’t bully.
Do you think that kid will ever be airworthy again? DO YOU?
Well if he is it’s gonna be a long road of surgeries and rehabilitation for the kid.
Even if the little guy was in the way it’s still assault with serious bodily injury.
@@mog882Ngomong apaan sih, bang? Why are you talking about bullies? What's the connection with the A350 and bullies?
Thanks for the video of the collision.
Airbus Beluga stocks after this 📈📈
Why?
@@no-damn-aliasBeluga often transport replacement parts when Airbus jets need fixing.
“Guillaume, we’ve just got an order for one singular a350-900 sharklet, and it’s urgent.”
Comment of the day😂
The A350 pilot was quick to say that his aircraft was on the centerline of the taxiway.
It is fortunate that neither the fuselage or the engines of the CRJ were struck.
Not on but OFF centerline!
@@ProjectNemesis92 These subtitles say off the center line but to me it sounds like the A350 pilot said on the centerline. Worth another listen. The CRJ was clearly not stopped or holding at the required stop bar. They were well back from it.
The A350 was Taxiing reasonably slowly so for the Entire Stabilizer & Engine of the CRJ to fall off seems like the Stabilizers were NOT attached sturdily. How could they be so easily knocked off?? And did the A350 sustain any damage to the Wing at all??
@@kojoharrison630 And modern big jets like the A350 have cameras trained on the nose wheel and main landing gears to help the pilots stay on the centerline and the paved runway.
@@kojoharrison630 You don't understand LEVERAGE do you, tails are NOT designed for sideways loads, and especially when applied near the top of the tail where the leverage is greatest. If the wing had hit closer to the base of the tail it might not have broken off.
2:12 It sounds to me like the A350 pilot said that they “were ON centerline”, but the video closed captioning said they “were OFF centerline”. Perhaps someone with better hearing than mine can chime in.
This video creator needs to fix that bit of MISINFORMATION... 😂
You are correct
He said they were off the centerline
I heard "on"
@@Aviation101-g2p 👎👎👎👎👎 Wrong, he says "on centerline" , turn your captions on and read it.
Sending thoughts and prayers to the CRJ’s family.
why ?
I'm glad I don't have to do the paperwork on that one!!
I think just about every Southwest flight crew shares your feelings on this one.
It's a mess, but it's one that Boeing can't be faulted for... Yet.
I put 50 on media blaming Boeing anyway. And 100 on idiot hate sheeple to be even quicker to blame Boeing.
boeing pilot
nice
There was Southwest Boeing 737... it created distraction for A350!😮
@@KontaktoManlol……😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
A350: Move you tiny plane or I’ll rip your tail off
CRJ900: Wait no, oh god it’s too late
I hope the pilots got out and exchanged insurance information.
No need. They're both Delta Planes.
Thank God there were no fatalities.
Airbus have built a BRICK with the A350…plane is solid as a rock.
I mean, it's made out of composite materials just like the 787 though. It even survived the impact with the Dash 8 and still intact before it was engulfed on fire.
Looks like the CRJ hadn’t pulled up close enough to the hold short line.
Looked like the CRJ is a reasonable way back. I know "hold short" means not to cross the line, but are pilots holding short required to stop within a certain distance of the line?
No, A350 should never have attempted to pass behind the CRJ. Not worth the risk, especially considering they were already off the centreline.
@@TravellingTechiefirst of all, you are wrong, and second of all you are right😂. Other aviation channels have already measured that the plane was 40 feet (at least) short of the hold line. And as you point out that still should but result in an accident. But the comment above that you’ve replied to is actually (and factually checked) a correct observation.
The comment you’ve replied to is right and the second sentence of your comment is also right!
Ummmm the CRJ had no where to go
@@christopherwarshno, that’s not correct, the CRJ was instructed to hold at the hold line, but it was 12 meters away from the hold line. The A350 was given clearance to proceed as it was assumed by traffic control that CRJ was in position
Looks like the CRJ was well short of the hold line to cross active runway because if the A350 was on the center line taxing that incident should have not happened
2:11 I "Think" .... The A-350 pilot said "we were off center line"...Which way was he off? blancolirio (Airline Ground Collision- Atlanta GA.10 Sept 2024 You Tube channel) did a pretty good break down of distances and clearance of that "Intersection"...
I was wondering whether it actually was in the normal position but was subsequently towed back from the hold short line (presumably to allow the runway to re-open). if you look at the airport diagram in the normal course of events that A350 was supposed to simply line up behind the CRJ. But for some reason it appears they wanted to head back to the ramp - there was some problem they had reported prior to the accident and they had actually wanted to stop. Ironically had the controller allowed them to stop rather than tell them to continue, the accident would not have happened.
Maybe but it's the A350 pilot's responsiblilty to make sure they are clear before passing.
DAL 295, A359 (503DN) to Tokyo-Haneda (HND/RJTT), Japan & EDV 5526 CRJ9 (N302PQ) to Lafayette (LFT/KLFT), Louisiana, US
That tail attachment design needs to be looked into. I would have thought it would be stronger than that. The vertical spar and banjo attachment should be one piece. It shouldn't break off like it did.
Your vertical stabilizer is now horizontal, your horizontal stabilizer is vertical, and you may experience a lack of rudder control, too.
That's rough
Don’t text and drive
Don’t text and taxi
Man this was all over atl news. This was crazy
One thing to note is that larger aircraft would typically take off on 9L/27R, which is the longest runway. But that runway was closed at the time
duly noted, for if true, that's a very important piece of information...👌
Yup, no doubt about it, for, whatever reason, the CRJ was quite a distance from the hold short line, which put its tail too far out onto the taxiway when the 350-900 came by, and thus the collision....
CRJ is at fault for not pulling up to the "Hold Short" line, so its tail is out by a few inches. A350's pilot view can't see the wingtip, so they can only go by ATC clearance and staying on the center line of the taxiway, which they supposedly did.
All Passengers and crew were safe and non of them were injured for Delta!
I am sure lots of them will be calling personal injury attorneys anyway. Many will hoping for a big payday. PTSD you know. This is the world we live in, sadly
The CRJ should have been further up, waiting at the hold line.
Juan Browne talks
about that on his You Tube channel.
Correct. They were not holding at the correct position. I wonder if they told ATC they were at the holding point awaiting clearance for takeoff before they got whacked by the 350...
Even if it was at the proper area and the threshold it would still have made contact...Nah, I blame atc
@@cdocker3070 ..nope, you be wrong with that assessment. more than enough room if at the hold line
@@cdocker3070 Wrong, Juan measured it all out and the CRJ was 50 to 60 feet short of the Hold short line, the CRJ is 118 feet long and there should have been 40 feet of clearance but there wasn't because the ass hat CRJ pilot is scared shitless of pulling up to the Hold Short line and left too much of the CRJ's ass hanging out in the taxiway space.
The small plane was in the big plane's blind spot. Smash, crinkle, pop, rice crispies.
Sort of. The winglet, a good chunk of the wing, and anything around them would not be visible to the flight crew of the A350. HOWEVER, the flight crew would have seen the CRJ900 as they approached that intersection and should have been aware the plane was there. Regardless if the CRJ900 was in the correct spot or not regarding the hold short line for the runway, the A350 crew should have known the CRJ900 was there and there could be a potential clearance issue. The crew of the A350 lost situational awareness and failed to maintain visual separation.
“Yea can you take a little off the top and line me up”
“I gotchu”
Gives a whole new meaning to 'Clip your Wings' !! Yikes 😳😳
The vertical stabilizer was destabilized! 😂😂
The pilot of the A350 is too funny 😃. He says he was on the center line. When driving down the road and some care sticks out of some driveway, you don't have the right to hit it because you were in your lane!!!😡
Gotdamnit Delta ain't missing any media this year! And the media hasn't missed them either.
They certainly didn't miss knocking off the tail of their younger sibling.
CRJ was 40ft short of hold line
My guess is A350 pilots were busy doing ten things before takeoff and weren’t watching out the window enuf.
Distracted driving. Don’t text and drive
LOL. Go back to sleep.
Juan Blancolirio measured it all out and the CRJ was 50 to 60 feet short of the Hold short line, the CRJ is 118 feet long and there should have been 40 feet of clearance but there wasn't because the ass hat CRJ pilot is scared shitless of pulling up to the Hold Short line and left too much of the CRJ's ass hanging out in the taxiway space.
ATC ground mcotrollers were to blame. They control movement on the ground!!
Amazing this isn't a weekly occurrence, given runway congestion and operation tempos at larger airports.
Fortunately everyone is safe, and this gives an opportunity to evaluate swing-out tails to improve both boarding and deplaning.
I noticed that the CRJ had not pulled all the way up to the hold short line. I’ve had issues with this practice by many captains who do this in spite of the fact that you have aircraft taxiing behind you. It unnecessarily reduces the amount of clearance between the tail of a parked aircraft and the wingtip of a taxiing aircraft.
Absolutely unbelievable and inexcusable!! Shame on you Delta!
The tail on that CRJ looks like a job for Flex Tape!
Delta hurt itself in its confusson
CRJ was not moving. Located satellite image. 33.645780° -84.437995° The CRJ was at the hold line for 8R-26L. So this is an airport desigh problem with a hold area that occupies part of the intersecting taxiway which may have worked for a domestic airport with lots of narrowbodies, but not with planes having large wingspans.
UPDATE: just saw a CBS news report and one of the camera view point shows the CRJ in relation with the hold line. About 2 car lengths between nose of aircraft and the hold line. Not sure what is normal/expected.
I see things in this country that I didn't think would happen in a developed, first world country. I've never seen things like this in the country I come from.
The CRJ got circumcised💀
the 350 is S/N 149 built in 2017-10-31 the RJ is S/N 15302 built on 2014-01-05
This seems to be an odd position for DL295 if I understand the details. It was heading for Tokyo (HND) I think. It was past the entry departure point (F2) for an east bound departure. Anyone have any other clarifications? I fly out of ATL every week and sometimes a couple times a week and am quite familiar with departure patterns. I would have expected them to hold short of F2 to sequence for the departure. 0:37 V is just a taxi way for arrivals. Not the route to go from the F concourse if you even wanted to get to the South departure runways. I’d like to know why he was beyond F2. While any accident is dangerous, this is a fully fuel loaded set of aircraft. As a note, there were probably four (4) flight crew members on the flight deck for this long haul flight. What runway was DL295 departing from. It looks like he was going to 8R also, so how was he beyond the taxiway to enter 8R. I sincerely doubt he was heading for 9L which is on the south side and he was on the North side. Glad things worked out for both well.
A little more info I got from another site. DL295 had asked ATC if the could move out of sequence to work out an issue. Possible when that happened the cockpit was no longer “sterile” for taxiing. It will be interesting to find out what the FO was doing as he is in the right seat.
Scary to see how easily the entire tail assembly moved to the side. Makes me wonder how well made the CRJ is. If I were one of the CRJ passengers, I'd take one look at that tail and make Amtrak reservations
I think you are wildly underestimating the difference in mass of the two planes and the strength of a wing along its chord.
I didn't know an A350 could be quite the bully.
A350 a solid jet 💪😊
Those wingtips cut not just a large amount of drag but other planes too.
That cut was clean
there’s something in common with both the a350 incidents this year: both were involved in collisions and were both flying to the same airport in tokyo
Preparing for takeoff mean they were full of fuel. That was lucky
The ground control controller that allowed the little plane to sit with it's rear end hanging out is definitely in trouble. :-))))))))
It'll buff out.
Yep. Flex tape will help too.
Nothing a little duct tape and bailin' wire can't handle. :D It's Georgia after all. ;)
@@jonesjones7057 Naw, you use flex tape to repair leaks on tires and hydraulic lines.
@jackielinde7568 oh that sucks. JB Weld maybe?
Same CRJ-900LR I was plane sporting in Buffalo, NY… N302PQ I hope it never gets repaired because you see these things at every airport and it is so common
2024 is such a strange and tense year for aviation 😳
I hate ATL, overly crowded...
yea i mean its literally the most busiest airport in the US
@@SD-N not just the US. It's currently the busiest in the world.
@@taridean yea i just looked it up
@@taridean yeah... it's nuts there.
@@tarideandamn, i thought that was Dubai
Installing side view and rear view cameras in the cockpit could indeed prevent loads of damages. Having that additional visibility, especially during ground manoeuvres or taxiing, would give pilots a clearer picture of their surroundings. It would be a bit like having extra eyes on the aircraft, reducing the likelihood of accidental bumps or scrapes. In the end, it could save airlines a fortune in repairs and downtime, not to mention enhancing safety overall.
Sometimes accidents happen. No one got hurt. That’s the best part.
You can bet the two pilots are going to have a meeting with the chief pilot though.
"This doesn't usually happen?" "No of course not." "Well what happened?" "Oh, the tail came off." If you know, you know.
It’s an extremely tight ship they run in Atlanta. Hats off to all my Delta Captain and First Officers for all the uneventful flights I’ve personally had.
If you look at 1:59 and again at 3:08 you can see how far back from the hold-short line the CRJ was. I would think that was the main cause of this accident. At 2:13 the caption says "We were off the center line", but it sounds to me as if the A350 pilot is actually saying "We were on the center line". The A350 pilots have no way of seeing the aircraft's wing tips as they taxi, so they have to rely on keeping the nose on the center line.
I think both planes had the proper clearance given. Looks like the crj was not close enough to the hold short line, but the airbus can’t see its wingtips to know if a collision was eminent. So really hard to say who’s at fault. The crj should have known they were too short of the hold line, but the airbus pilots should have known the crj was sticking out too far. But if the crj was fully at the hold line, there would have only been 40 feet of clearance between the two planes. 40 feet in my opinion is not a good enough margin of error for a best case scenario especially when neither pilot can actually see the potential contact points. I don’t think clearance should have been given to the airbus to taxi. If a larger plane were holding short like the crj, then the collision would have also happened. So that entails atc knowing the exact dimensions of all aircraft involved.
A bunch of Delta pilots are about to get two seniority numbers more senior. Congrats to those lucky young Delta pilots 👏
The A350 was taxiing to the right of the center line and the RJ had stopped significantly short of the hold line. This was bound to happen sooner or later
I'm reading on other channels that the 350 was a bit ti the LEFT of centerline.
Juan Blancolirio measured it all out and the CRJ was 50 to 60 feet short of the Hold short line, the CRJ is 118 feet long and there should have been 40 feet of clearance but there wasn't because the ass hat CRJ pilot is scared shitless of pulling up to the Hold Short line and left too much of the CRJ's ass hanging out in the taxiway space.
Boy would I have liked to have seen this one.
The CRJ has been checked by another aviation channel and it proves the CRJ was at least 40 feet (12 meters +) short of the hold line. Making its tail protrude------- I’m not a pilot, but procedure is for first officer to ensure clearance of wingtip on that side of the plane, as the pilot was on other side of plane and is responsible for the left side wing clearance.------Also the A350 was dealing with a technical issue and was taxiing away from the runway to be clear of the takeoff queue.------seems to be everyone’s fault in some way, CRJ pilot, captain of A350, and first officer of A350. And the A350 itself!!
You can’t see the wing tips from the cockpit on any large aircraft, it’s physically impossible, even if there had been cameras available I doubt they would have able to stop in time to avoid the contact.
R i p tail
Wonder what will be the financial settlement between Delta and Endeavor. Full value of plane? Repair estimate? Or only a portion since CRJ was in wrong spot? Or like basketball, foul goes to plane that was moving which was 350? Would love to hear negotiations on that.
We need more eyes on the ground directing traffic around taxiways and runways. More safety is better safety.
That's gonna get a branded title.
GG.... what a screw up. I'd be curious as to what inspections are going to be required on the A350 to certify its airworthiness.
The video shows that the CRJ was about ~30 meters before the hold short line. Were it correctly positioned, or even only a mere 5 meters more close to the line, this accident would not have happened. But also, the ground ATC should have been aware of the situation, IF he had a line of sight to the scene, and should have warned to A350 crew to stop. I guess the A350 pilot is probably not to blame, because he cannot see his wing and must rely on ATC taxi instructions to provide for sufficient spacing.
This could suggest the idea of tilting vertical stabilizer..😀
From what I’ve seen, it looks like the CRJ stopped short of where it should have. If it’d stopped further forward the centre line of the taxiway would’ve given them plenty of clearance
Hardly any damage at the a350 compared to the CRJ, is that an Airbus w
Holy s**t I hope no one got hurt
Caption is wrong in a serious way that will lead to misattributing fault. They didn’t say “we were off center line.” They said “we were on center line.”
That airport is huge and very busy. It was only a matter of time before something like this happened
It doesn't matter if the 350 was on center line or not. That guarantees NOTHING. The Captain will wear the can for this even though a sharp F/O on the collision side should've sounded a clear warning. It wasn't even close.
That is going to be an expensive fix.
0:06 Getting a light haircut at GreatClips be like:
Was Pete too busy, breastfeeding too, care. Planes, trains and automobiles. DEI is all over that.
bro really said to the crj
"Nah, I'd win"
That is why they have centerlines. The CJR looked like it didn't actually reach the hold line. If the A350 was not on centerline, I can see how they hit.
Hold pilots more accountable for incidents and hold them more liable and increase education and experience standards
Were the pilots of the A350 or the CRJ being subject to civil asset forfeiture by the feds when the accident happened? I mean it is Atlanta after all.
Hahahaha... No, probably not. Although, the flight crews might have had to take a field sobriety test (which everyone fails, even when sober).
The CRJ pilot is one of those who stops 4 car lengths short at a traffic signal.
Southwest pilot for sure said: "What the f....k"
I wonder that the airline’s deductible would be on that aircraft accident?
I bet the pilot didn't use his blinkers. I initially thought he was break checking the other plane.
So lucky ... all that fuel
Seems like a rookie mistake
So many of those lately and it’s scary
"We removed our tail for you, to make your every wish come true. Here at Delta Airlines we remove our tails for you." - apologies to Continental's old jingle.
Somebody definitely needs to lose their job.
But who?
Honestly anyone who keeps insisting the A350 pilot said "off centreline" needs their hearing checked. I am not being disingenuous - I literally mean that you need to see an audiologist as you likely have hearing damage.
Bad parallel parking
I have a question. Why couldn’t aircraft have 360 degree cameras like so many cars now have, wouldn’t that improve overall situational awareness in the cockpit? In some past emergencies many pilots really didn’t know what shape their aircraft is in until they land