Glad I came across this video..just started framing today and have ended up with a 14x13 space with bulkheads to accommodate pipes and support beams. It is never ideal to have a space at home but like you, I wanted to accomodate storage, a small gym, big seating area, furnace room, and bathroom.
Moving the circuit breaker? Man that's next level. Plus the HVAC and room within a room PLUS that drywall-plywood-drywall design... remarkable. Can't wait to see the final product!
Wow dude I feel your pain I’ve been waiting to finish my vocal booth for a year but I’m the problem because I’m not as hungry as I should be because I’m making good money and it’s not urgent but it should be so I have one wall to get insulation mass loaded vinyl, drywall and green glue and acoustic treatment on the inside and I’m done plus a pass through for XLR cables and you’ll still be up and running before I will but that’s my fault so I’m looking forward to seeing the final product
I'm a kitchen and bath remodeler/ designer. You're at the part where this gets frustrating and old and you want it done. It'll be so with the wait! Stoked to see your new studio. Thanks for all the great content
I built my studio about 6 years ago, with the same concept of room-in-a-room and the results are amazing. I can have a 5 piece band playing and you can hardly hear anything outside the studio. Mind you, mine is a stand alone building in my backyard. I'm sure Martin would have sorted it out, but are there any isolators that the inner room frames are standing on or are they mounted directly to the ground? Even with floating floors, if the frames are not isolated from the ground, the sound will transfer to the outside wall frames (low frequency) and vice-versa.
@@hardcoremusicstudioI built a room within a room in my basement and do tracking in it. Inner walls were attached right to the concrete with direction from Rod Gervais and no issues. Not going to find a better isolator than concrete !
Awesome! Martin designed the studio I bought a couple years ago in barrie. One of his earlier designs, built in the early 90s ... legend! stoked to follow along
I’m very curious to see how you respond to the acoustics when it’s all done. Even though it’s not a focus for you, it’ll still sound different than what you’re used to. Lots of acoustic treatment in that plan.
WOW! Great project!! Question about moving your interior panelboard: Since your existing wiring terminates in that current location (home runs), will you now have to install a gutter/ wireway to splice in new runs for each of your existing circuits? Looks like a BIG job! Best of luck - great ideas 👊🏼🤘🏻
@@hardcoremusicstudio perfect - that makes the most sense. Relocating a panel is a HUGE job and pain. I'm a Journeyman Electrician here in Tx. Best of luck - looks like fun AND a lot of work 🤘🏻
Hey Jordan, i was wondering if you could make a video on unmasking, specifically when it comes to vocals. I know in a previous video you alluded to the idea that unmasking is a little bit of a myth (at least in the extreme ways that people tend to think about it). Do you ever EQ, gain automate, or EQ automate guitars to make room for the vocal? Or do you typically just rely more on vocal compression, EQ and automation to keep it up front?
Looks great man! Can't wait to see it when it's done. One question is why did you pick that corner over the other ones that didn't have water and electric lines in the way?
Yeah, it was a trade off between my needs vs the needs of the family. I could’ve made it bigger and put it somewhere else, but the layout for the rest of the basement would’ve been far worse.
I think the nice thing is, you are showing people that mixing isn’t about ‘the perfect space’. Very rarely are you going to have perfect and even in your own build you have balanced what you need and what your family needs. One question is will you ever track anything in there? I mean maybe a vocal or guitar part or is it strictly going to be a mix only zone? It’s great to hear an actual pro saying I’ve had to just make it work and it’s been fine 👍
It looks a bit small and I'm wondering is it easier to treat a room if it's smaller? Aren't the reflections harder to manage when surfaces are so close to each other?
it's gonna be cozy! Martin doesn't seem to be worried about the room size. However according to the plans, a big majority of the surfaces are going to be covered w/ acoustic panels
Low voltage and telcom/AV cables in US/ residential are not required to have a raceway/ conduit when run between or through trusses. But, where and how large the holes are drilled into the beams are dictated by structural engineering/manufacturers spec. Cheers!
Love this! The only bummer is that there's no windows/daylight coming through...Except that little corner window. Which is still something :-) Looking forward to seeing the progress and the end result!
i have a huge empty basement & it would be so ideal to have my studio down there. but i'm staying with a small bedroom because i will go absolutely nuts underground and without windows and some breeze in the fall and spring. horrible. just can't do it.
Your ducting is your weak point. Run a heat pump for that room, also an ERV for air flow to the outside. Also double drywall green glue the ceiling drywall.
While I love this build. You mentioned that acoustics and whatnot was not much of a problem and that you weren’t recording. Are you going to all the extra expense of floating and room within a room and A/C diversion just because you want to do it right? Because it didn’t sound like you required all of this based on the intro. ;) Regardless, living vicariously here and wish you the best of luck!
Acoustics in terms of a flat-as-possible frequency response in the room is not super important to me. But the sound isolation from the rest of the house is important to me, which is why the 'floating' room and HVAC design is important
Insulating a basement's outer wall from the inside is highly NOT recommended... You are running the very high risk of getting serious problems with mold in that space between your dry wall and the concrete wall. You'll need at least a moisture barrier (which NEVER is totally impermeable!) to avoid moist air getting in the gap and condensing on the cool concrete surface. But still... that will not prevent moisture (or even liquid water) of permeating through the concrete and getting in the gap.
Yeah it'll be interesting to see how Jordan feels when the kids are running around on the floor above. Unlike running around on the floor underneath him which he's used to.
@@chriscarr1791 the impact energy from footsteps directly above you will be far higher than hitting a floor below, and transferring to the floor above. Like I said, i'm interested to see how Jordan responds to it, the ceiling resilient mounts for the floor joists above aren't miracle workers.
Grab your free Mixing Cheatsheet to learn the go-to starting points for EQ and compression in heavy mixes: hardcoremusicstudio.com/mixcheatsheet
Glad I came across this video..just started framing today and have ended up with a 14x13 space with bulkheads to accommodate pipes and support beams. It is never ideal to have a space at home but like you, I wanted to accomodate storage, a small gym, big seating area, furnace room, and bathroom.
Moving the circuit breaker? Man that's next level. Plus the HVAC and room within a room PLUS that drywall-plywood-drywall design... remarkable. Can't wait to see the final product!
Congrats on the new family member!
Martin was a teacher of mine almost 25 years ago at Harris institute. He’s a class act.
Looks great man! Look forward to seeing the finished room 💪🏻🍻
Wow dude I feel your pain I’ve been waiting to finish my vocal booth for a year but I’m the problem because I’m not as hungry as I should be because I’m making good money and it’s not urgent but it should be so I have one wall to get insulation mass loaded vinyl, drywall and green glue and acoustic treatment on the inside and I’m done plus a pass through for XLR cables and you’ll still be up and running before I will but that’s my fault so I’m looking forward to seeing the final product
Wishing you all the best. For the new studio, of course, but especially for your family and the new member to be added :)
I'm a kitchen and bath remodeler/ designer. You're at the part where this gets frustrating and old and you want it done. It'll be so with the wait! Stoked to see your new studio. Thanks for all the great content
Haha that’s for sure. Slow going
@@hardcoremusicstudio Rome wasn't built in a day!
I'm actually planning on doing this in the near future. I very much anticipate following this!
Cool!! That's exciting
Congrats
Awesome! Hang in there Jordan, it will be well worth the wait I'm sure.
3:47 good man
Congrats on the baby 🎉 good luck with the build
This is cool as hell. Thanks for sharing! I’m excited to see the build continue here.
Good for you it's going to be sweet!!
So glad your documenting this!!
Cheers
Man this is going to be sick! Already know.
Congrats on the baby! I always look forward to your Monday uploads
Dude! Coming along great! I'd LOVE to have a space to do something similar. Can't wait to see the finished product!
Pumped for the upcoming studio build videos. And congrats on the baby!!
This is so sick, can't wait to see it all come together
Cool Vid, Is the actual Room (studio) bigger than what will be the new one? .....
This is awesome! Congratulations! Excited to see this along the way and finished.
congrats on your new baby Jordan - can't wait to see the final results of the new studio - loving all the BSA plugins also great stuff
Cool plan. Only a mixing room, or will be there a recording room also? Maybe I missed it..
just a mix room!
Good for you! Well deserved!!
You guys are awesome.
Martin taught me at school hes a sweet guy :)
I built my studio about 6 years ago, with the same concept of room-in-a-room and the results are amazing. I can have a 5 piece band playing and you can hardly hear anything outside the studio. Mind you, mine is a stand alone building in my backyard.
I'm sure Martin would have sorted it out, but are there any isolators that the inner room frames are standing on or are they mounted directly to the ground? Even with floating floors, if the frames are not isolated from the ground, the sound will transfer to the outside wall frames (low frequency) and vice-versa.
No, the studs are not isolated from the floor. That didn't seem to be a concern. Maybe if it was a tracking space too, it would be more of a concern.
@@hardcoremusicstudioI built a room within a room in my basement and do tracking in it. Inner walls were attached right to the concrete with direction from Rod Gervais and no issues. Not going to find a better isolator than concrete !
Awesome! Martin designed the studio I bought a couple years ago in barrie. One of his earlier designs, built in the early 90s ... legend!
stoked to follow along
When are you going to post part 2?
super cool, looking forward to seeing the progress along the way!
I’m very curious to see how you respond to the acoustics when it’s all done. Even though it’s not a focus for you, it’ll still sound different than what you’re used to. Lots of acoustic treatment in that plan.
WOW! Great project!! Question about moving your interior panelboard: Since your existing wiring terminates in that current location (home runs), will you now have to install a gutter/ wireway to splice in new runs for each of your existing circuits? Looks like a BIG job! Best of luck - great ideas 👊🏼🤘🏻
No, we're going to create some sort of removable section of the wall so that the panel is accessible - it has to be by code anyways.
@@hardcoremusicstudio perfect - that makes the most sense. Relocating a panel is a HUGE job and pain. I'm a Journeyman Electrician here in Tx. Best of luck - looks like fun AND a lot of work 🤘🏻
Hey Jordan, i was wondering if you could make a video on unmasking, specifically when it comes to vocals. I know in a previous video you alluded to the idea that unmasking is a little bit of a myth (at least in the extreme ways that people tend to think about it). Do you ever EQ, gain automate, or EQ automate guitars to make room for the vocal? Or do you typically just rely more on vocal compression, EQ and automation to keep it up front?
Love it, can't wait to see the final product.
Looks great man! Can't wait to see it when it's done. One question is why did you pick that corner over the other ones that didn't have water and electric lines in the way?
Yeah, it was a trade off between my needs vs the needs of the family. I could’ve made it bigger and put it somewhere else, but the layout for the rest of the basement would’ve been far worse.
wow!!!! Martin is L.E.G.E.N.D.A.R.Y.!!!! Congrats!
Very coool!!!
Super helpful, as I’m in the midst of starting work on my basement, so this helps a ton. :)
I think the nice thing is, you are showing people that mixing isn’t about ‘the perfect space’. Very rarely are you going to have perfect and even in your own build you have balanced what you need and what your family needs.
One question is will you ever track anything in there? I mean maybe a vocal or guitar part or is it strictly going to be a mix only zone? It’s great to hear an actual pro saying I’ve had to just make it work and it’s been fine 👍
I'm excited to see this! How are you tackling isolating your HVAC unit? Mine's loud as hell...
will show in more detail once it's built, but near the end of this video I described what the plan is
Why does your world map @ 0:20 have the DDR, USSR, Darfur, etc? Was it from pre-1990?
lol
What are the sound panels you have in your current studio?
www.acousticpanelscanada.com/collections/bass-traps
Congrats, inspire dream. Hug
It looks a bit small and I'm wondering is it easier to treat a room if it's smaller? Aren't the reflections harder to manage when surfaces are so close to each other?
it's gonna be cozy!
Martin doesn't seem to be worried about the room size. However according to the plans, a big majority of the surfaces are going to be covered w/ acoustic panels
exited for you bro
Ahhhh. The dream
In Poland, according to regulations, cables cannot be run in trees without special insulating pipes (conduits). Are you sure it will be safe for you?
Low voltage and telcom/AV cables in US/ residential are not required to have a raceway/ conduit when run between or through trusses. But, where and how large the holes are drilled into the beams are dictated by structural engineering/manufacturers spec. Cheers!
Love this! The only bummer is that there's no windows/daylight coming through...Except that little corner window. Which is still something :-) Looking forward to seeing the progress and the end result!
That little window is gonna be gone. I'm actually happy about this because having windows when I'm filming is a big headache.
Do more than just one more video on this... PLEASE
i have a huge empty basement & it would be so ideal to have my studio down there. but i'm staying with a small bedroom because i will go absolutely nuts underground and without windows and some breeze in the fall and spring. horrible. just can't do it.
Martin in person. Wow.
Your ducting is your weak point. Run a heat pump for that room, also an ERV for air flow to the outside.
Also double drywall green glue the ceiling drywall.
i built baffle boxes for mine, in this exact scenario. 0 issues.
Yeah buddy
Please keep that sick Felix Potvin poster in the new room.
While I love this build. You mentioned that acoustics and whatnot was not much of a problem and that you weren’t recording. Are you going to all the extra expense of floating and room within a room and A/C diversion just because you want to do it right? Because it didn’t sound like you required all of this based on the intro. ;)
Regardless, living vicariously here and wish you the best of luck!
Acoustics in terms of a flat-as-possible frequency response in the room is not super important to me. But the sound isolation from the rest of the house is important to me, which is why the 'floating' room and HVAC design is important
In between my vocal takes I can hear cars going by and lawnmowers.
Neighbors mowing their lawn is the worst!!
@figlermaert Neighbors mowing their lawn is awful for night shift workers too.
Electrical panel under as basement window? Potential water? Lucky its getting moved.
Insulating a basement's outer wall from the inside is highly NOT recommended... You are running the very high risk of getting serious problems with mold in that space between your dry wall and the concrete wall. You'll need at least a moisture barrier (which NEVER is totally impermeable!) to avoid moist air getting in the gap and condensing on the cool concrete surface. But still... that will not prevent moisture (or even liquid water) of permeating through the concrete and getting in the gap.
Nothing you can install is going to silence footsteps above you. Not even MLV. Not worried about acoustics? Why hire a designer?
So he doesn't have to plan and design the stuff himself?
He hired a designer because he can. Nothing wrong with that.
Yeah it'll be interesting to see how Jordan feels when the kids are running around on the floor above. Unlike running around on the floor underneath him which he's used to.
Decoupling addresses impact noise...
@@chriscarr1791 the impact energy from footsteps directly above you will be far higher than hitting a floor below, and transferring to the floor above. Like I said, i'm interested to see how Jordan responds to it, the ceiling resilient mounts for the floor joists above aren't miracle workers.
forget a gym I would have put a live room with a window where the gym is lol
haha, yeah if I was recording bands here that'd be good!