What a great vessel, double planked mahogany, bronze knees and diagonal strapping, and bronze fastened. I was first mate aboard 1978-1979 and few weeks for five additional summer sail training for Landmark. I recall leaving Manchester after breakfast and relaxing 100 miles later in Boothbay for supper---downeast on broad reach dipping the main boom in water. Wing and Wing down eggmoggin reach, setting the fisherman a few miles from northeast harbor and setting the anchor on the fly in Northeast-not easy on the mate. One time the When and IF chaffed through her mooring in the outer harbor where the bowsprit was piercing stormy seas, I was able to get aboard and circle around until the incoming tide flooded Manchester enough for her 9' draft. Unfortunately I was not around when she went on the rocks off Boardman Ave. We visited with Pendleton's who had long ago stopped building boats and owned the grocery on Main Street in Wiscasset.. She was build just east of the derelict schools, Luther Little and Hesper, in the late 70's only pilings remained of the Pendleton yard. The yard arm had to be removed for stability during the Landmark days---it was in the assistant Headmaster's office for many years. Thanks for sharing.
I operate a Marine service along the Maine Coast. It's wonderful learning about the past in my area. I remember the old Pendleton yard and the hesper and Luther little. Thanks for posting this video.
My Dad served with the General in the 3rd Armored division, he was a tanker, and fought in the battle of the bulge. He enlisted when he was 16yrs old, in 1941, and didn’t come home until it was over, in 1946. All my life as a kid, my dad talked about how much he respected, and was proud to serve with General George S. Patton. 😊❤️
mine too maybe they knew each other - 3rd army, 11th armored division also stood night watch over Patton's "ghost army" of inflatable tanks outside of London, to make Hitler think Patton was not yet ready to land in Europe, before D day
I sailed on this magnificent vessel while attending Landmark School from 1975 to 1977. Spent many lazy days sailing to Marblehead lights and back with a long weekend sail up to Rockport Massachusetts. She is a fun and historic vessel. I was saddened to read in the Soundings magazine of When and If breaking her mooring in a Nor Easter storm where she has floundered upon the rocky shore. Glad she has found new owners that saw in her what We all at Landmark saw.
Thank you for sharing your family's memories with us. When and If is a beauty to be sure! There are many stories about your Dad "at work". What a gift to see The General on his day off.
His son Major General George S Patton (ret)., the narrator, also commanded the same Army Division as his father, the 2d Armored Division at Fort Hood Texas. We were neighbors at Patton Park and were invited over for a party where I saw the famous ivory handled pistols mounted on the wall.
My father-in-law entered the U. S. Army in 1932 as a bugler, retired after 32 yrs! In WW2 part of job was driving trucks, he told stories of "acquiring" gasoline for General Patton!
Delivered the When & If to St Thomas, VI from Annapolis Maryland via Bermuda for Landmark School in the early 1980’s. To be out to sea on this vessel with the skipper and one other deckhand was amazing. Rode out the tail end of a hurricane, reefed the sails and she took the weather and just kept on sailing. What a special vessel. So happy she is still sailing.
About 15 years ago i was helping a freind get his Sailing Yacht from the Chesapeake Bay to the Bahamas and on our way down the Intracoastal Waterway in Georgia we had the delightful pleasure of sharing the same dock with the When and If that was also on her way to the Bahamas to be Chartered out with a college crew onboard her from the University that the Patton family donated her to the group was working hard on renovations and getting her ready for the extended cruising she was going to be doing we made our voyage ahead of her and we did not get to see her under sail in the Carribean but it truly was a honor to be in her presence for the time we did share with her at the Marina for a few days time the crew on the boat was certainly proud to be on such a part of American culture and history
I have been to Patton's Grave site a dozen times during my five years in Europe. With the Boy Scouts, over a 3 year period, I assisted different boys by placing two flags, a Dutch and American flag, on every single headstone (over 5,000) in Marrgraton Cemetary. I remember the row and headstone by taking photo of the last one each day I was at. It was my goal to do as a retired paratrooper, to honor the fallen brothers who came before me. I retraced Patton's movements in Lexumbough and Belguim. A great man. A great General immortalized by Scott in the Movie.
Had the pleasure of going to a picnic at the son’s home near Hamilton Ma about 35 years or so ago. Believe it was called “Green Meadows”. The son had a whole room devoted to a lot of the senior’s memorabilia including helmets, sabres, bibles and many many photos. The West Point Society of New England planned the event and General George III and Mrs Patton hosted us. Was a great opportunity to visit and enjoy a day with them.
Interesting footage. I can't believe there are just 19 comments. But I guess that's good in a way. I get to read them all. That was a very nice boat. And to see the general at wheel is fitting. Thanks for sharing this 👍
I wish that General Patton had come to a peaceful retirement to enjoy his life with his family and friends. He deserved that and more. Comes the time, comes the man. He was the man of the time. 🫡🇺🇸
I sailed the When and If for the summer of 1989. I was hired by the Landmark school as mate. I lived on board and tutored the students on day sails with the captain or the time. I spent my slack time cleaning and painting. I joined boat from Northeast Harbor Maine and the crew and I sailed her down coast to Manchester MA, and epic over night sail. A following sea with the wind at our back we sailed wing and wing for hours trough the night, making as much as 15 knots for much of the journey. I'll never forget it. I never knew she had a yard arm. The year after my short stay on her she went up on the rocks. The last I saw her she was being rebuilt on Marthas Vinyard with a hole you could drive a car through. Where is she now?
I was there in December of 2018. I just googled and looks like she is still available for sunset cruise. She moves to key west, actually Stock Island in winter and then back up to New England in the summer
Last night I dreamed I was standing on a ridge overlooking a valley and General Patton was speaking. The this morning I opened YT and saw this video...strange.
I just love this video. We are from Maine. My dad was with the army in WWII under general Patton. He was Co A 245th combat engineer battalion and also at the battle of the bulge. My dad always spoke very highly of General Payton. He met him at least a couple of times. General Patton gave him compliments on some of his bridge work. I have a couple of photos my dad took, one with Patton in it, and one of his car going over the bridge.
at first i was expecting to see george s scott because i hadn't seen many pictures of the real general patton. i did get to see and salute the other general patton, his son, when his staff car drove by and i was walking by foot on one of the streets on the base around 1971.
When i was a young kid i went to landmark academy thay had a sailing program on the wen and if i had the time of my life sailing that boat i spent 30 years commercial fishing in new bedford now i want a sail boat to take me south every winter
Early 1973 or late '72 in a small antique shop St. Petersburg Fl. I passed buying a clear picture of Gen. Patton pissing in a stream ! Two or three dollars! Patton pissing , how could I pass on that ! LOL !
No adults still alive from that generation my dad passed 11 years ago March 5 th I miss him he was drafted in 41 infantry trained then discharged for medical he had asthma and could not breath in the field . He worked at corning glass making war products .or I would of lost him from combat like so many other family members and I would not be hear either.
wow, absolutely stunning! We ourselves love classic yachts, and although our humble Cheoy Lee 41 may not be classic, or a "yacht" we try our best to imitate the look of these gorgeous vessels.
fascinating! I misread at first and thought it was THE General Patton himself. haha because I really only have your surface level knowledge of Patton history and certainly had never before learned that his son was also a General. So at first was thinking… how in the world did General Patton record this on the 1930s?! With his voice too?!?!😅 Then I reread description and figured it out haha. So his son went back and narrated the footage maybe at some point in the 1960s or 1970s I am assuming? Which would explain the pretty good audio quality anyway. So, cool! Glad this one randomly popped in on my feed.
I was hoping there was something of his boat to Hawaii. He had a boat in California and sailed it and his family to Hawaii when he was stationed there in the 1920's I think.
The man was not a politician, so let’s forget that unfortunate statement. What he did to destroy fascism makes up for it a million times over. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORRS.
I love sailing, but I'm not a sailor. Having done the vast majority of my boating from high school to say, age 30. Most all of my friends had boats and were all to happy to let me join the helm while they sat back and enjoyed the ride. My biggest deal was having a real problem with the design. All the big sails in my day had what I called a, "flat back", meaning the end or aft section more or less had a slight slant,. When asked what I'd prefer I'd cite the design of the schooner in this video where the bottom came up to meet the back end of the boat - like said am not a sailor so not sure of the correct term for it, but like this schooner here it seems and always seemed the ideal design. They started to come back in vogue when I was at retirement age - so I missed my chance to ever ride one, but I'll bet it sure was nice.
It is a charter sailboat doing short day sails a few times a day. During the Summer it sails out of Salem MA, and in the winter out of Key west Florida.
Don't confuse the two, Father and son. Father died at the end of WW-2 in an auto accident in Germany in 45 His son (who narrated this) lived until 2004.
@@danoyes1 Checking George Smith Patton IV page you find that the famous General was technically the third in lineage to have the name, but named Jr. The narrator was named George Smith Patton IV at birth and changed it to just George Smith Patton. George Smith Patton V is alive.
When you see these people, the boats, the place names surnames, even though it is in New England. It might as well be in Britain, of course, just for us the start of the Second World War 1939 everything for us put on hold for six years?🇬🇧🏴
5:05 That was swift of ipswich ! Wow she had a traditionally rigged square topsail and a Course sail! Contrary to how it was thought that she had brailed in fore topsail
MANCHESTER BY THE SEA , MA. LONG AFTER I WOULD GO THERE , and buy my ''FOO LING YOU'' AND SAIL TO KITTERY , MAINE.....now this to is long ago. ''SAINT CROIX BOAT'' ..
FDR, Eisenhower, Rommel, The Sultan of Morocco, Hitler, Von Mannstein, Guderian, Stalin, and a long list of others including nearly every German General in the OKW had a different opinion as to his value as a General. So much so, that Operation Fortitude was perpetrated against them to deceive them that Pas de Calais was the true invasion target even after Patton was in France in July, '44 in combat command.
@@tincoffin you are measuring by today’s standards. Boat size has changed dramatically. Remember Kennedy’s boat Manitou was 63 feet in the early 1960’s. What was opulent then is just extravagant now.
@@Hoireabard Yes the biggest post war yacht built in the UK was 150' - Blue Leopard - in around 1965. It is a tiddler by todays standards . 40 - 45 ' was a good sized/ large yacht. 60' was large but probably more normal in the States.
What a great vessel, double planked mahogany, bronze knees and diagonal strapping, and bronze fastened. I was first mate aboard 1978-1979 and few weeks for five additional summer sail training for Landmark. I recall leaving Manchester after breakfast and relaxing 100 miles later in Boothbay for supper---downeast on broad reach dipping the main boom in water. Wing and Wing down eggmoggin reach, setting the fisherman a few miles from northeast harbor and setting the anchor on the fly in Northeast-not easy on the mate. One time the When and IF chaffed through her mooring in the outer harbor where the bowsprit was piercing stormy seas, I was able to get aboard and circle around until the incoming tide flooded Manchester enough for her 9' draft. Unfortunately I was not around when she went on the rocks off Boardman Ave. We visited with Pendleton's who had long ago stopped building boats and owned the grocery on Main Street in Wiscasset.. She was build just east of the derelict schools, Luther Little and Hesper, in the late 70's only pilings remained of the Pendleton yard. The yard arm had to be removed for stability during the Landmark days---it was in the assistant Headmaster's office for many years. Thanks for sharing.
Im Charles lalli fid we sail together on the wen anf if at landmark
I’m aboard her right now! Sailing soon to Salem, Massachusetts! She’s a wonderful ship
Hi Seth!!!
...It's Diver Brad.
I operate a Marine service along the Maine Coast. It's wonderful learning about the past in my area. I remember the old Pendleton yard and the hesper and Luther little. Thanks for posting this video.
Hey Seth! 😅
It's Diver Brad, from Key West!! 😅
My Dad served with the General in the 3rd Armored division, he was a tanker, and fought in the battle of the bulge. He enlisted when he was 16yrs old, in 1941, and didn’t come home until it was over, in 1946. All my life as a kid, my dad talked about how much he respected, and was proud to serve with General George S. Patton. 😊❤️
mine too
maybe they knew each other - 3rd army, 11th armored division
also stood night watch over Patton's "ghost army" of inflatable tanks outside of London, to make Hitler think Patton was not yet ready to land in Europe, before D day
Home movies are such a treasure, and this one is priceless!
these home movies were taken on 16mm with Kodachrome - very expensive in the 1930s....
My favorite general and my favorite boat! I could not ask for a better memory!
I sailed on this magnificent vessel while attending Landmark School from 1975 to 1977. Spent many lazy days sailing to Marblehead lights and back with a long weekend sail up to Rockport Massachusetts.
She is a fun and historic vessel. I was saddened to read in the Soundings magazine of When and If breaking her mooring in a Nor Easter storm where she has floundered upon the rocky shore.
Glad she has found new owners that saw in her what We all at Landmark saw.
Thank you for sharing your family's memories with us. When and If is a beauty to be sure! There are many stories about your Dad "at work". What a gift to see The General on his day off.
His son Major General George S Patton (ret)., the narrator, also commanded the same Army Division as his father, the 2d Armored Division at Fort Hood Texas. We were neighbors at Patton Park and were invited over for a party where I saw the famous ivory handled pistols mounted on the wall.
@groverw7507 "Hell On Wheels" - 2nd Armored Division....
My father-in-law entered the U. S. Army in 1932 as a bugler, retired after 32 yrs! In WW2 part of job was driving trucks, he told stories of "acquiring" gasoline for General Patton!
How nice to have this record...
The days look idyllic with no hint of the horrors that were happening in Europe at the time, except for the voiceover.
A great sailing vessel and a great man.
Delivered the When & If to St Thomas, VI from Annapolis Maryland via Bermuda for Landmark School in the early 1980’s. To be out to sea on this vessel with the skipper and one other deckhand was amazing. Rode out the tail end of a hurricane, reefed the sails and she took the weather and just kept on sailing. What a special vessel. So happy she is still sailing.
About 15 years ago i was helping a freind get his Sailing Yacht from the Chesapeake Bay to the Bahamas and on our way down the Intracoastal Waterway in Georgia we had the delightful pleasure of sharing the same dock with the When and If that was also on her way to the Bahamas to be Chartered out with a college crew onboard her from the University that the Patton family donated her to the group was working hard on renovations and getting her ready for the extended cruising she was going to be doing we made our voyage ahead of her and we did not get to see her under sail in the Carribean but it truly was a honor to be in her presence for the time we did share with her at the Marina for a few days time the crew on the boat was certainly proud to be on such a part of American culture and history
I have been to Patton's Grave site a dozen times during my five years in Europe. With the Boy Scouts, over a 3 year period, I assisted different boys by placing two flags, a Dutch and American flag, on every single headstone (over 5,000) in Marrgraton Cemetary. I remember the row and headstone by taking photo of the last one each day I was at. It was my goal to do as a retired paratrooper, to honor the fallen brothers who came before me. I retraced Patton's movements in Lexumbough and Belguim. A great man. A great General immortalized by Scott in the Movie.
VM appreciated
Alden is a good design. Great footage. Greater schooner...what a beauty.
Had the pleasure of going to a picnic at the son’s home near Hamilton Ma about 35 years or so ago. Believe it was called “Green Meadows”. The son had a whole room devoted to a lot of the senior’s memorabilia including helmets, sabres, bibles and many many photos. The West Point Society of New England planned the event and General George III and Mrs Patton hosted us. Was a great opportunity to visit and enjoy a day with them.
Ships of wood and men of steel 🇺🇸
Iron
Interesting footage. I can't believe there are just 19 comments. But I guess that's good in a way. I get to read them all. That was a very nice boat. And to see the general at wheel is fitting. Thanks for sharing this 👍
I wish that General Patton had come to a peaceful retirement to enjoy his life with his family and friends. He deserved that and more. Comes the time, comes the man. He was the man of the time. 🫡🇺🇸
An ancestor of mine followed General Patton's Grandfather with the 22nd Virginia Infantry Regiment ANV.. Respect.
I sailed the When and If for the summer of 1989. I was hired by the Landmark school as mate. I lived on board and tutored the students on day sails with the captain or the time. I spent my slack time cleaning and painting. I joined boat from Northeast Harbor Maine and the crew and I sailed her down coast to Manchester MA, and epic over night sail. A following sea with the wind at our back we sailed wing and wing for hours trough the night, making as much as 15 knots for much of the journey. I'll never forget it. I never knew she had a yard arm.
The year after my short stay on her she went up on the rocks. The last I saw her she was being rebuilt on Marthas Vinyard with a hole you could drive a car through. Where is she now?
Bummer. I thought your story would end with the boats current location.
A fitting name for a boat. Sad he never got to come home to her, and those he loved.
we were fortunate enough to go on a sunset cruise on this old girl down in Key West, a couple of years ago. She is still in wonderful condition
Is it still there ?
I was there in December of 2018. I just googled and looks like she is still available for sunset cruise. She moves to key west, actually Stock Island in winter and then back up to New England in the summer
Thank you. A most beautiful memory for all of us.
Last night I dreamed I was standing on a ridge overlooking a valley and General Patton was speaking. The this morning I opened YT and saw this video...strange.
I just love this video. We are from Maine.
My dad was with the army in WWII under general Patton. He was Co A 245th combat engineer battalion and also at the battle of the bulge. My dad always spoke very highly of General Payton. He met him at least a couple of times. General Patton gave him compliments on some of his bridge work. I have a couple of photos my dad took, one with Patton in it, and one of his car going over the bridge.
BUILT BY MR GRANDFATHER PENDLETON IN WISCASSET MAINE
This is a very important historical film!
one of our finest. sad to see him gone
I have actually sailed on the When and If, was a bucket list event.
Patton owned beautiful Sailboat!⛵️ Mike from Missouri
Excellent video.
Thank you so much for sharing.✌️
at first i was expecting to see george s scott because i hadn't seen many pictures of the real general patton. i did get to see and salute the other general patton, his son, when his staff car drove by and i was walking by foot on one of the streets on the base around 1971.
Beautiful boat, the history only adds to her.
When i was a young kid i went to landmark academy thay had a sailing program on the wen and if i had the time of my life sailing that boat i spent 30 years commercial fishing in new bedford now i want a sail boat to take me south every winter
Thank you so much for sharing this and your narration
Wis asset still looks just like that, I grew up in Boothbay and was through there six months ago
Those were the days. Take me bck!
Early 1973 or late '72 in a small antique shop St. Petersburg Fl. I passed buying a clear picture of Gen. Patton pissing in a stream ! Two or three dollars! Patton pissing , how could I pass on that ! LOL !
Thanks for the video.
I was deep into the General at one time.
Dreamed he was talking to Beatrice.
You were commanding
troops at Ft. Hood at the time.
PRETTY SURE I SEE MY FATHER AND GRANDFATHER PENDLETON IN THIS! THANK YOU
No adults still alive from that generation my dad passed 11 years ago March 5 th I miss him he was drafted in 41 infantry trained then discharged for medical he had asthma and could not breath in the field . He worked at corning glass making war products .or I would of lost him from combat like so many other family members and I would not be hear either.
Thank you for posting this.
wow, absolutely stunning! We ourselves love classic yachts, and although our humble Cheoy Lee 41 may not be classic, or a "yacht" we try our best to imitate the look of these gorgeous vessels.
One of my patients in a nursing home served as atanker with the 3rd for 4 years , he was one tuff old dude
A wonderful schooner!
fascinating! I misread at first and thought it was THE General Patton himself. haha because I really only have your surface level knowledge of Patton history and certainly had never before learned that his son was also a General. So at first was thinking… how in the world did General Patton record this on the 1930s?! With his voice too?!?!😅 Then I reread description and figured it out haha. So his son went back and narrated the footage maybe at some point in the 1960s or 1970s I am assuming? Which would explain the pretty good audio quality anyway. So, cool! Glad this one randomly popped in on my feed.
I was hoping there was something of his boat to Hawaii. He had a boat in California and sailed it and his family to Hawaii when he was stationed there in the 1920's I think.
The schooner Arcturus is now in New Zealand and is for sale.
Video on YT.
Absolutely great history..😊
Beautiful God bless 🙏
That moment of peace between the wars
'We fought the wrong enemy'
The man was not a politician, so let’s forget that unfortunate statement. What he did to destroy fascism makes up for it a million times over. ACTIONS SPEAK LOUDER THAN WORRS.
Well , keithrothman , I say , “ you never hafta apologize for telling the TRUTH “ !!! … and as a Virginian , I also say , “ sic semper tyrannis “ !!!
... The Patton Papers (excerpts from his diary) make the car accident seem less accidental.
I live in rockport ma. And remember the when and if tied up on t-whaft. It was skippers by George Grimes who still lives there
Very very little of General Patton in this. He passed in 1945.
I love sailing, but I'm not a sailor. Having done the vast majority of my boating from high school to say, age 30. Most all of my friends had boats and were all to happy to let me join the helm while they sat back and enjoyed the ride. My biggest deal was having a real problem with the design. All the big sails in my day had what I called a, "flat back", meaning the end or aft section more or less had a slight slant,. When asked what I'd prefer I'd cite the design of the schooner in this video where the bottom came up to meet the back end of the boat - like said am not a sailor so not sure of the correct term for it, but like this schooner here it seems and always seemed the ideal design. They started to come back in vogue when I was at retirement age - so I missed my chance to ever ride one, but I'll bet it sure was nice.
WONDERFUL
What is the song that comes on at 6:06? It's very pretty and I would like to find the music.
We should be voting for a man like this for President. Or least Secretary of State
I believe this boat’s name is “Arcturus”. Maybe someone else mentioned in the postings but I don’t recall seeing it.
Where is this boat now? Could you imagine owning a boat of such an American legend?
It is a charter sailboat doing short day sails a few times a day. During the Summer it sails out of Salem MA, and in the winter out of Key west Florida.
General Patton makes his entrance 5:44 YW!
nice'
What a peaceful time it was, hardships yes a nation at sleep and peaceful before being awakened,
Awakened by FDR and his war mongering group.
I find it funny that at 6:04 and 9:05 are marked as "Most Replayed" because most of us haven't enrolled in the Evelyn Wood speed reading course, hehe!
Wikapedia says General George S Patton Jr passed away in 1945, is this correct? Who's narrating this series of films?
Don't confuse the two, Father and son. Father died at the end of WW-2 in an auto accident in Germany in 45 His son (who narrated this) lived until 2004.
@@melvinboyce9629 so the narrator is g.patton the Third?
Major General Patton is narrating this. General George S. Patton’s son. Technically the third but he went by Jr.
@@sailwhenandif4056 ok, that's why I was confused... Guess I should get it straight I work in Essex ma, next town over from Hamilton!
@@danoyes1 Checking George Smith Patton IV page you find that the famous General was technically the third in lineage to have the name, but named Jr. The narrator was named George Smith Patton IV at birth and changed it to just George Smith Patton.
George Smith Patton V is alive.
Wow just to hear the voice of the most powerful general in us history is amazing
That's his son, same name amigo
Can anyone identify the piano music in this video; starts about 5 minutes in. Thank-you
Patton had a longtime home in San Marino Calif
Is the boat still around?
Patton deserved a long retirement on her.
... According to his diary (cf. "Patton Papers") he was planning an all out offensive on American Communism ... but tragically, car accident instead.
When you see these people, the boats, the place names surnames, even though it is in New England. It might as well be in Britain, of course, just for us the start of the Second World War 1939 everything for us put on hold for six years?🇬🇧🏴
5:05 That was swift of ipswich ! Wow she had a traditionally rigged square topsail and a Course sail! Contrary to how it was thought that she had brailed in fore topsail
i live in massachusetts and want to take a ride over to 'patton park' in wenham i think.
Good days
Hey I knew a guy that owned Arcturus and sailed her to NZ from Hawaii…
an neighbor Vince 45y ago was comm man up thru Italy to Ger. then transferred to Japan as Mac comm director. Another friend was pow under Japanese
From Boothbay Harbor and Wiscasset hasn't changed much
Interesting
Fantasic
Looks like the old cutyshark ship
ALLONS!
All I ask for is a tall ship and a star to sail her by.......
MANCHESTER BY THE SEA , MA. LONG AFTER I WOULD GO THERE , and buy my ''FOO LING YOU'' AND SAIL TO KITTERY , MAINE.....now this to is long ago. ''SAINT CROIX BOAT'' ..
SOUNDS LIKE ME NARRATING HAHA
Patton never had a chance to sail "When and if" It was being built when he was off fighting the war...Never made it home to sail it...
We all remember Patton as George C Scott......not even close!! His voice was almost feminine,lol
This is his son narrating.
Wheres George C. Scott?!! 😂
Boats without stabilizers, 🤢.
Like it when you said Hitler giving problems to world and my dad got involved yes he did in big way
The benefits of marrying into money :)
Patton was murdered.
Show MR> tough Ended up being a fat rich man.
Narrated by Barack Obama.
Patton was a horrible general and worse to his troops. He was in the right place at the right time and that's how he got as far as he did.
FDR, Eisenhower, Rommel, The Sultan of Morocco, Hitler, Von Mannstein, Guderian, Stalin, and a long list of others including nearly every German General in the OKW had a different opinion as to his value as a General. So much so, that Operation Fortitude was perpetrated against them to deceive them that Pas de Calais was the true invasion target even after Patton was in France in July, '44 in combat command.
Nuts.
As long as you leave the facts out, that’s a fine thing to say
@@sugrue8526 no, it's a well known fact. Crack a book open sometime.
@@a6o932 Don't know what books you've read, but like you they are a load of crap.
Interesting view of how the oligarchs lived.
Hardly an oligarch's yacht at 60'. You need to go up about five times before you get to that territory
@@tincoffin you are measuring by today’s standards. Boat size has changed dramatically. Remember Kennedy’s boat Manitou was 63 feet in the early 1960’s. What was opulent then is just extravagant now.
@@Hoireabard Yes the biggest post war yacht built in the UK was 150' - Blue Leopard - in around 1965. It is a tiddler by todays standards . 40 - 45 ' was a good sized/ large yacht. 60' was large but probably more normal in the States.
... You seem confused. The oligarchs arranged his car accident.
@@kradius2169 are you truly unaware that oligarchs murder each other in addition to committing crimes against the general population?
GSPIII was the wealthiest soldier in the United States Army; not everyone has the coin for rigging such as that boat.
This guy doesn't seem to understamd where he is or what's happening around him ! Sounds like Biden. 🫡