CCC -1037 God predestines no one to go to hell; for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":
@@ryleighloughty3307. No one can navigate Gods grace. That is given you know that😂. Does everyone accept Jesus? According to Johny Mac he has to preach to everyone knowing well that not everyone is elected. How can you go up to anyone and say “ god died for your sins? Maybe? Possibly? That’s some more Calvinist stuff, but Johny Mac doesn’t event understand Jesus hypostatic union. He can’t imagine Mary being the mother of God. How do you explain exodus 32:11-14 Moises prayed for Israel, why did God decide not to destroy Isreal If life is so set in stone why pray for anyone- it cannot change anything ?
@@ryleighloughty3307There’s no negotiation necessary between us if I freely offer you something and you are able freely to accept it or to reject it. God has purchased our salvation and offers us his grace, which we may accept by 1. Having faith in him and persevering in that faith, and 2. Approaching the sacraments which are the ordinary channels through which we receive his grace. Where on earth are you getting the idea of a negotiation from?
@@judexbarborum Everything that happens and will happen in the heavens and on the earth is absolutely controlled by God. Human beings have no say in the matter.
@@ryleighloughty3307 no we are sad that you refuse to accept the Eucharist as what he said it was. Let’s see. I’m Old Testament people got Mana that feel from the sky. We know the New Testament is supposed to be better right Then you claim Jesus said truly truly you get a symbol, at the end God can do whatever, but the new covenant is a lot better than the previous. I don’t see the Bible say it was a symbol- or where it should be grape juice and some type cracker.
@@ryleighloughty3307What ? The protestants are wrong Every time ! J. McArtur said : “ Jesus is not Son of God “ but le roman soldier at the Cross certify : “Yes, this man was really Son of God !” You sea, this false pastor don’t read the bible ! … and teach ! He is a disciple of Satan ! May be ?
Somebody go tell this to “Catholic” apologist “Scholastic Answers” on his channel. He has made numerous videos that the Church teaches “Double Predestination.”
God doesn't send anyone to either Heaven or Hell. "Many are called, but few are chosen." God allows free will. He just knows what you'll choose when you have the choice. Jesus died for those who will repent and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. He didn't die for those who choose Hell because their sin is not forgiven. "The wages of sin is death."
I love Bishop Barron! A defender of the Catholic faith and the Catholic Church! There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church! You can't separate Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ from his Holy Church. Our Lord Jesus Christ determines who is in his church and who isn't. Our Lord desires all men to be saved. That is why he founded his church on St. Peter. Our Lord Jesus Christ gave the great commission to make disciplines of all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!
I was stunned when I learned that John Calvin believed that Christ burned in hell for our sins during the 3 days between His crucifixion and His resurrection. MacArthur believes this too and how could anything be more satanic than that. Christ did not burn in hell for our sins but MacArthur is well on the road in burning in hell for that belief. It's baffling to me how this guy is considered to be a leading protestant theologian and the suckers that follow him.
@@harmony2369 Of course but Catholics do not believe our Lord burned in hell for three days to atone for our sins. That's demonic to think that and stupid.
If God wills someone to hell and hell is where evil souls go, then God created an evil soul. However, God is infinitely good and cannot create evil. Ergo, God does not create evil souls predestined to hell.
The peculiar doctrines of Calvinism were first held by Gnostics in the 1st and 2nd century. Some ere revived by Augustine, who is the major source for John Calvin. The biblical doctrine of predestination applies o groups. For example, the people destined to salvation is the Church. Those destined to hell are those outside the Church.
God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass: yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.
Well, that's why we Catholics categorically reject God's sorting out who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell, but that the *individual human alone* decides where he will end up; nobody else: as otherwise predestination is valid and thus free-will is not. Catholics have NEVER been able to accept any predestination at all, and rightly totally come down on the side of Free Will alone- even overriding God's consent; otherwise what we'd be worshipping is really a devil!
Romans 13:1-2 Let every soul be subject to higher powers. For there is no power but from God: and those that are ordained of God. Therefore, he that resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God. And they that resist purchase to themselves damnation.
Actually, there is no hell. The word “hell” in the 16th century meant “hades”. This word has changed its meaning over the last several hundred years. This is why in the more modern translations, it is not used since it is not a literal translation. Either way, if you believe in hell, the same problem exists, God knowing He is making babies for hell regardless what you believe then, whether you chose to reject God or not. When a non believer dies, they simply don’t have memory of themselves nor self awareness. This is based on the Old Testament.
I'm hearing what you're saying, but none of this accounts for the fact that God can change our hearts and spirits to cause us to walk in his statutes and obey his rules (Ezekiel 36:22-32). Or the fact that he promised to do this for his people as part of his New Covenant. So apparently he's capable and happy to encroach on the will of man to cause them to be saved, so why are there still people who won't be saved, unless God didn't choose to change them?
He doesn't encroach on our respective wills so much as He presents us with alternatives, from which we are able to make choices. "...I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. Choose life, then, that you and your descendants may live..." (Dt 30:19).
@@PantheraOnca60 and, if you're familiar with the rest of the story, they proved that they weren't capable of keeping his commands, statutes, and rules (Deuteronomy 30:15-20). That was the point of the New Covenant that he promised. It was going to be one where the members would be transformed so that they wouldn't be able to break covenant with him (Jeremiah 31:31-34).
The son of perdition is....as I am too! So, he does do it...His return is because MOST are LOST and not SAVED! He knows that the end times are almost impossible to be saved in (unless you believe the easy wide path is for the saved)! The conversion of a soul is by the Holy Spirit CHOOSING....So, he chooses! Our Lady was kept without sin to be the Mother of God...that had to be generations before!
Likewise, Jesus taught me everything I needed to learn for what I did not know "what for"...He could have trained me to preach, teach and save but that wasn't his plan! It was never my plan, I followed him by discerning his will and his will is/was to return Jesus....the only solution! 🥳
@@gordon2945 what ever Bible you want, And whatever language Jude 24 24 To him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy- 25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen. Do you not think God is capable of choosing his perfect mother for himself. Matthew 7:17-18 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Was Jesus not fruit from her womb. Was the fruit not good? Unless you think god couldn’t do this. I know you don’t think Jesus is that powerful, but he is. Just like you think the Eucharist is just a symbol, because you don’t believe what Jesus said.
Spiritual matters are understood with a spiritual mind.protestantism from initial stage used a intellectual human mind to move away from the apostolic Church of Crist Jesus and are to spitied in more than 40 000 denomination and they are spliting up day by day for this cause.A hundred more mcartheres and the world will have a million more disputed denominations of churches.may the Lord unite us all as one apostolic catholic church his loving mercy ❤
The analogy of the student and the teacher ... Could you show that to me in St Thomas Aquinas or St Augustines writings on predestination You will not find it there . In fact you have super intelligent catholic apologists like Christian Wagner of the you tube channel Scholastic Answers acknowledge that Aquinas believed in double predestination. St Augustine also held to double predestination. Bishop Barron view is more that of a Molinist than a Thomist . Therefore, as predestination includes the will to confer grace and glory; so also reprobation includes the will to permit a person to fall into sin, and to impose the punishment of damnation on account of that sin...... That is Aquinas . How does this differ from the Reformed Confessions of faith
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2 idiots sharing different versions of the same fairy tale.
God sees the end from the beginning & their philosophy of pre destination is making God into a man All are chosen in Christ , falling away from Christ destines oneself to condemnation, God did not create satan as satan but as Lucifer, light bearer , but he chose to become satan,
@@abrahamphilip6439 God created evil as the counterbalance to his goodness. The vehicle he chose, was Satan. Satan had the freedom to choose and he chose evil over good. Hence, he is responsible for his choice. Everyone has the freedom to make their own choices, but their choices always align with God's predetermined choices.
@@ryleighloughty3307 God did not create evil. Evil is not a created substance but rather the privation or corruption of good. God, being wholly good, did not create evil, but evil arises when creatures turn away from the ultimate good, which is God Himself.
@@RomanVedat If you make a table, you are not the table. In the same manner, God created evil for his purposes, but he is not evil. If you wish to argue that evil is a privation of good, then who allowed this privation?
Apostle Paul says same is bishop Barron more authoritive , Paul said is their unrightousness in God judgement. Jesus said same in gospel of John chapter 17. Think about Judas he was one of the 12.
@@TimSpangler-rd6vs he was amongst the 12 disciples God ways and thoughts are not like ours. Prophet Isaiah chapter 55: 8-9.god is not like man book of numbers chapter 23 v 19. The scripture is authoritative not from any bishop or Pope opinions.
For God to be God, he must have predetermined everything before creation. He already knows who will be with him in heaven at the end times and who will be cast into the lake of fire. Otherwise, God is a puppet of human beings. Anti-Calvinism is a 'new age' belief that places man's feelings ahead of God's will - it is blasphemous.
We agree everything is predetermined, except your belief and acceptance in God. Did he not give us free will? Unless free will stopped after Adam and Eve. He knows everything, yet wants us to love him not because he needs anything he has all the love and glory already, but because he wants to share it with us. Back to Adam after he eat the apple what did God say; where are you. He obviously knew where he was and what he did, but he wanted Adam to confess, instead Adam does not take accountability. Imagine if Adam would have just accepted Hods command and confessed his disobedience. How about Cain same thing. God know things that will happen. Your view of Calvinism is the real new teaching. Your earliest somewhat of a reference is Augustine but he was not like Calvin. As a Calvinist you would appreciate child baptism just like you say, why wait if he already knows who will follow him right?
@@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm The free choices that we enjoy on the mortal plane are always aligned with God's predetermined will. If they were not so aligned, then creation would be a flaming chaos.
I want to know if Mr MacArthur can explain how we share more than 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. It seems that the last time I asked it may have been on a channel that did not like the question and they deleted it. And at what point did we become human, exactly? Anatomically modern, or one of our ancestors such as Homo Habilis? Or what about our, ahem, kissing cousins, Homo neanderthalensis? Am I, like them, destined for hell for even asking? Does MacArthur's kind of faith accommodate or in any way make room for other forms of truth - such as genetic truth or paleontological truth? Or is that kind of faith one that sweeps uncomfortable truths under the carpet? Should we just ignore other truths and treat them like they don't exist or should we be suitably informed by them and admire the amazing way God has created all things? Just not necessarily the way someone else has decided we should believe it.
Baptist or Calvinist. Joseph Smith, Ellen G White or Martin Luther. It’s all the same bucket of modern error and heresy. Only the 2,000 year old Catholic Church established by Jesus Christ in 33AD has the fullness of his truth.
@@rouxmain934 11 In him we were also chosen,[e] having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance
MacArthur being educated? Then he's the proof knowledge is useless without charity and fairness. I am attending Catholic communities since years and had heated discussions with my Catholic friends before converting. Even with priests. I tell you there are 2 Catholic religions on this earth : - the actual Catholic Christianity ; - the fake Catholic religion that only seems to exist in the hearts and minds of the anti-Catholics.
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Thank you for the wonderful lesson. May God bless you and Bishop Baron.
CCC -1037 God predestines no one to go to hell; for this, a willful turning away from God (a mortal sin) is necessary, and persistence in it until the end. In the Eucharistic liturgy and in the daily prayers of her faithful, the Church implores the mercy of God, who does not want "any to perish, but all to come to repentance":
Do you think that sinful and fallen man can negotiate his salvation with a sinless and perfect God?
If yes, how would that work?
@@ryleighloughty3307. No one can navigate Gods grace. That is given you know that😂. Does everyone accept Jesus?
According to Johny Mac he has to preach to everyone knowing well that not everyone is elected.
How can you go up to anyone and say “ god died for your sins? Maybe? Possibly?
That’s some more Calvinist stuff, but Johny Mac doesn’t event understand Jesus hypostatic union. He can’t imagine Mary being the mother of God.
How do you explain exodus 32:11-14
Moises prayed for Israel, why did God decide not to destroy Isreal
If life is so set in stone why pray for anyone- it cannot change anything ?
@@ryleighloughty3307Salvation is not business ! You are wrong ! And misleading the bible, if you never read a book !
@@ryleighloughty3307There’s no negotiation necessary between us if I freely offer you something and you are able freely to accept it or to reject it. God has purchased our salvation and offers us his grace, which we may accept by 1. Having faith in him and persevering in that faith, and 2. Approaching the sacraments which are the ordinary channels through which we receive his grace. Where on earth are you getting the idea of a negotiation from?
@@judexbarborum
Everything that happens and will happen in the heavens and on the earth is absolutely controlled by God.
Human beings have no say in the matter.
The analogy of the teacher and students was excellent!
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Excellent. I have usually liked MacArthur but he is off base here
The way he explodes the word "pastor" sounds hilariously close to an epithet that I often say when I hear John McArthur
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Foreknowledge is not the same as predestination. Calvin seemingly thought they were.
Predestination to eternal life, yes Acts 13:48, prefestination to hell? No.
“God desires all men to be saved and come to the knowledge of the truth.” (1 Timothy 2:4)
Some protestants in their pride will still come and argue 😊.
Protestants do not argue in their pride but in their sadness for those who misunderstand the word of God.
@@ryleighloughty3307 no we are sad that you refuse to accept the Eucharist as what he said it was.
Let’s see. I’m Old Testament people got Mana that feel from the sky.
We know the New Testament is supposed to be better right
Then you claim Jesus said truly truly you get a symbol, at the end God can do whatever, but the new covenant is a lot better than the previous.
I don’t see the Bible say it was a symbol- or where it should be grape juice and some type cracker.
@@ryleighloughty3307 there must be a lot of infighting then.
@@ryleighloughty3307What ? The protestants are wrong Every time ! J. McArtur said : “ Jesus is not Son of God “ but le roman soldier at the Cross certify : “Yes, this man was really Son of God !” You sea, this false pastor don’t read the bible ! … and teach ! He is a disciple of Satan ! May be ?
@@ryleighloughty3307 i understand the word of God...which is why I'm not Catholic
Somebody go tell this to “Catholic” apologist “Scholastic Answers” on his channel. He has made numerous videos that the Church teaches “Double Predestination.”
God doesn't send anyone to either Heaven or Hell. "Many are called, but few are chosen." God allows free will. He just knows what you'll choose when you have the choice. Jesus died for those who will repent and accept Jesus as their Lord and Savior. He didn't die for those who choose Hell because their sin is not forgiven. "The wages of sin is death."
I love Bishop Barron! A defender of the Catholic faith and the Catholic Church! There is no salvation outside the Catholic Church! You can't separate Our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ from his Holy Church. Our Lord Jesus Christ determines who is in his church and who isn't. Our Lord desires all men to be saved. That is why he founded his church on St. Peter. Our Lord Jesus Christ gave the great commission to make disciplines of all nations, baptizing in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!
“The problem with Calvin is, he can’t say how much God loves us.”
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I was stunned when I learned that John Calvin believed that Christ burned in hell for our sins during the 3 days between His crucifixion and His resurrection. MacArthur believes this too and how could anything be more satanic than that. Christ did not burn in hell for our sins but MacArthur is well on the road in burning in hell for that belief. It's baffling to me how this guy is considered to be a leading protestant theologian and the suckers that follow him.
Catholic believe in the harrowing of hell too? No?
@@harmony2369 Of course but Catholics do not believe our Lord burned in hell for three days to atone for our sins. That's demonic to think that and stupid.
An ancient error. Because God knows the future does not imply in any way his mercy is not offered to all.
If God wills someone to hell and hell is where evil souls go, then God created an evil soul. However, God is infinitely good and cannot create evil. Ergo, God does not create evil souls predestined to hell.
The peculiar doctrines of Calvinism were first held by Gnostics in the 1st and 2nd century. Some ere revived by Augustine, who is the major source for John Calvin. The biblical doctrine of predestination applies o groups. For example, the people destined to salvation is the Church. Those destined to hell are those outside the Church.
We will find out, in the end.
Psalms 139 is one reason that Christians are predestined
What I don't get, is that MacArthur got it from John Calvin and Calvin got it from Augustine.
A little twisting led some innocent sheep astray! Calvin's protest, so sad.
Calvin got it wrong from St Augustine
God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of His own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass: yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established.
Well, that's why we Catholics categorically reject God's sorting out who goes to Heaven and who goes to Hell, but that the *individual human alone* decides where he will end up; nobody else: as otherwise predestination is valid and thus free-will is not.
Catholics have NEVER been able to accept any predestination at all, and rightly totally come down on the side of Free Will alone- even overriding God's consent; otherwise what we'd be worshipping is really a devil!
Romans 13:1-2
Let every soul be subject to higher powers. For there is no power but from God: and those that are ordained of God.
Therefore, he that resisteth the power resisteth the ordinance of God. And they that resist purchase to themselves damnation.
Actually, there is no hell. The word “hell” in the 16th century meant “hades”. This word has changed its meaning over the last several hundred years. This is why in the more modern translations, it is not used since it is not a literal translation.
Either way, if you believe in hell, the same problem exists, God knowing He is making babies for hell regardless what you believe then, whether you chose to reject God or not.
When a non believer dies, they simply don’t have memory of themselves nor self awareness. This is based on the Old Testament.
John Calvin was the worst Bible exegete in history.
Jesus die for all people who are in sin ✝️🕊☦️
I'm hearing what you're saying, but none of this accounts for the fact that God can change our hearts and spirits to cause us to walk in his statutes and obey his rules (Ezekiel 36:22-32). Or the fact that he promised to do this for his people as part of his New Covenant. So apparently he's capable and happy to encroach on the will of man to cause them to be saved, so why are there still people who won't be saved, unless God didn't choose to change them?
He doesn't encroach on our respective wills so much as He presents us with alternatives, from which we are able to make choices. "...I have set before you life and death, the blessing and the curse. Choose life, then, that you and your descendants may live..." (Dt 30:19).
@@PantheraOnca60 and, if you're familiar with the rest of the story, they proved that they weren't capable of keeping his commands, statutes, and rules (Deuteronomy 30:15-20). That was the point of the New Covenant that he promised. It was going to be one where the members would be transformed so that they wouldn't be able to break covenant with him (Jeremiah 31:31-34).
How about other Catholic stand on TULIP aside from this. Thank you in advance.
Sorry for my grammar. Hope you understood my question
The son of perdition is....as I am too! So, he does do it...His return is because MOST are LOST and not SAVED!
He knows that the end times are almost impossible to be saved in (unless you believe the easy wide path is for the saved)!
The conversion of a soul is by the Holy Spirit CHOOSING....So, he chooses! Our Lady was kept without sin to be the Mother of God...that had to be generations before!
Likewise, Jesus taught me everything I needed to learn for what I did not know "what for"...He could have trained me to preach, teach and save but that wasn't his plan! It was never my plan, I followed him by discerning his will and his will is/was to return Jesus....the only solution! 🥳
No she was not without sin, only jesus was without sin, what bible are you reading
@@gordon2945 what ever Bible you want, And whatever language
Jude 24
24 To him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy- 25 to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen.
Do you not think God is capable of choosing his perfect mother for himself.
Matthew 7:17-18
Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit.
Was Jesus not fruit from her womb. Was the fruit not good?
Unless you think god couldn’t do this. I know you don’t think Jesus is that powerful, but he is.
Just like you think the Eucharist is just a symbol, because you don’t believe what Jesus said.
Spiritual matters are understood with a spiritual mind.protestantism from initial stage used a intellectual human mind to move away from the apostolic Church of Crist Jesus and are to spitied in more than 40 000 denomination and they are spliting up day by day for this cause.A hundred more mcartheres and the world will have a million more disputed denominations of churches.may the Lord unite us all as one apostolic catholic church his loving mercy ❤
And yet we don't use pagan prayer beads.
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The analogy of the student and the teacher ...
Could you show that to me in St Thomas Aquinas or St Augustines writings on predestination
You will not find it there . In fact you have super intelligent catholic apologists like Christian Wagner of the you tube channel Scholastic Answers acknowledge that Aquinas believed in double predestination.
St Augustine also held to double predestination. Bishop Barron view is more that of a Molinist
than a Thomist .
Therefore, as predestination includes the will to confer grace and glory; so also reprobation includes the will to permit a person to fall into sin, and to impose the punishment of damnation on account of that sin......
That is Aquinas . How does this differ from the Reformed Confessions of faith
2 idiots sharing different versions of the same fairy tale.
God sees the end from the beginning & their philosophy of pre destination is making God into a man All are chosen in Christ , falling away from Christ destines oneself to condemnation, God did not create satan as satan but as Lucifer, light bearer , but he chose to become satan,
Did Satan choose to become Satan by himself?
If yes, how could he do that?
Satan choosing to become Satan is like saying God created him as Satan
@@abrahamphilip6439
God created evil as the counterbalance to his goodness.
The vehicle he chose, was Satan.
Satan had the freedom to choose and he chose evil over good.
Hence, he is responsible for his choice.
Everyone has the freedom to make their own choices, but their choices always align with God's predetermined choices.
@@ryleighloughty3307
God did not create evil.
Evil is not a created substance but rather the privation or corruption of good. God, being wholly good, did not create evil, but evil arises when creatures turn away from the ultimate good, which is God Himself.
@@RomanVedat
If you make a table, you are not the table.
In the same manner, God created evil for his purposes, but he is not evil.
If you wish to argue that evil is a privation of good, then who allowed this privation?
Apostle Paul says same is bishop Barron more authoritive , Paul said is their unrightousness in God judgement. Jesus said same in gospel of John chapter 17. Think about Judas he was one of the 12.
It doesnt say Judas put faith in Christ. That is presumption
@@TimSpangler-rd6vs he was amongst the 12 disciples God ways and thoughts are not like ours. Prophet Isaiah chapter 55: 8-9.god is not like man book of numbers chapter 23 v 19. The scripture is authoritative not from any bishop or Pope opinions.
@@frederickanderson1860 If I was stealing from the bag..would you assume I was an authentic Christian? Will you even answer?
@@TimSpangler-rd6vs l have by scripture we don't assume anything only if it agrees with scripture references l quoted.
@@frederickanderson1860 You assume that mortals in the Vatican are true.
For God to be God, he must have predetermined everything before creation.
He already knows who will be with him in heaven at the end times and who will be cast into the lake of fire.
Otherwise, God is a puppet of human beings.
Anti-Calvinism is a 'new age' belief that places man's feelings ahead of God's will - it is blasphemous.
We agree everything is predetermined, except your belief and acceptance in God. Did he not give us free will?
Unless free will stopped after Adam and Eve. He knows everything, yet wants us to love him not because he needs anything he has all the love and glory already, but because he wants to share it with us. Back to Adam after he eat the apple what did God say; where are you. He obviously knew where he was and what he did, but he wanted Adam to confess, instead Adam does not take accountability. Imagine if Adam would have just accepted Hods command and confessed his disobedience. How about Cain same thing. God know things that will happen.
Your view of Calvinism is the real new teaching. Your earliest somewhat of a reference is Augustine but he was not like Calvin.
As a Calvinist you would appreciate child baptism just like you say, why wait if he already knows who will follow him right?
@@JuanGonzalez-kb3gm
The free choices that we enjoy on the mortal plane are always aligned with God's predetermined will.
If they were not so aligned, then creation would be a flaming chaos.
@@ryleighloughty3307 Thomas , or Augustine ? Or someone else. That whole statement I am on board.
you overlook that he gave us free will. We are not His pulpit and He certainly is not ours
@@charlesgardner6849
Do you think that we can make decisions outside of God's will?
I want to know if Mr MacArthur can explain how we share more than 98% of our DNA with chimpanzees. It seems that the last time I asked it may have been on a channel that did not like the question and they deleted it. And at what point did we become human, exactly? Anatomically modern, or one of our ancestors such as Homo Habilis? Or what about our, ahem, kissing cousins, Homo neanderthalensis? Am I, like them, destined for hell for even asking? Does MacArthur's kind of faith accommodate or in any way make room for other forms of truth - such as genetic truth or paleontological truth? Or is that kind of faith one that sweeps uncomfortable truths under the carpet? Should we just ignore other truths and treat them like they don't exist or should we be suitably informed by them and admire the amazing way God has created all things? Just not necessarily the way someone else has decided we should believe it.
I am assuming you know there are other Catholic bishops in the world than just Bishop Robert Baron. :)
As a Baptist I agree the Calvinists are wrong about predestination. And I'd like to list the 100 things the Roman Catholics are wrong about.
List them.
Roman Catholics are 100% right on all matters of faith.
Baptist or Calvinist. Joseph Smith, Ellen G White or Martin Luther. It’s all the same bucket of modern error and heresy. Only the 2,000 year old Catholic Church established by Jesus Christ in 33AD has the fullness of his truth.
@@davidotto7612
No, they are wrong about most matters of faith.
@@Knight-of-the-Immaculata
No. The Roman Catholic Church is an offshoot of the pagan Roman Empire.
I believe in predestination
According to you, is pre-destination stronger than free will?
@@rouxmain934 11 In him we were also chosen,[e] having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will, 12 in order that we, who were the first to put our hope in Christ, might be for the praise of his glory. 13 And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14 who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance
You can't shut down any Christian who's as educated as John McArthur.
Some people are educated fools.
MacArthur being educated? Then he's the proof knowledge is useless without charity and fairness.
I am attending Catholic communities since years and had heated discussions with my Catholic friends before converting. Even with priests.
I tell you there are 2 Catholic religions on this earth :
- the actual Catholic Christianity ;
- the fake Catholic religion that only seems to exist in the hearts and minds of the anti-Catholics.
He was educated to be an anti catholic 😊
Correct.
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Pastor McArthur's teachings and theology are correct.