I know this is a semi serious league but there needs to be some sort of independent race stewards now. From the Mexico incident to Silverstone to what ever the hell Jake thought he was doing in Belgium, it’s clear you can kind of do what you want to gain/defend position. Obviously can’t rely on code masters penalty system so id like to see some form of penalty given out for over the top incidents like the 3 mentioned.
@@Hydraav2 I think that there is a balance. Obviously the midfield guys shouldn’t be scrutinised. But the front runners with how sweaty it is, should have some sort of ruling and would lead to better racing. Just one guys opinion
I've been saying exactly this since the end of the first season. It's hard to watch knowing anything can happen, and they will get away with it. The league is too competitive to not have stewards.
@adamevans7740 that's just it it would keep everyone from driving questionably. Also slip stream is a little different than pushing off the championship rival. It was pretty obvious he was even looking in his rear view camera so there's not a chance he "didn't see ben"
I think it’s less blatant than you think it is. I don’t think meraki anticipated Ben to make that move in the first place and thought he was pulling out. He probably also thought that Ben went for a dive after that because all he saw were the red arrows. But it’s still on Jake.
Racing incident if anything, on Jake’s onboard he is predictable cause he keeps moving to the right the whole time, Ben should of done with Thomb did imo and lifted off throttle and went to the racing line as Jake’s line was compromised cause of Thomb
i know this is late but really from Jake perspective it's Ben that punted him out in corner after failed to brake earlier, rather than spining in grass
Give him a DT for turning into somebody and GAINING 7 sec. on Ben by doing so. Would have finished in p7 and Ben would have had a p4 winning on Countback...
watching the incident back at half speed you can see a second move to the right after Jake's car had returned to moving in a straight line. This was just as the red marker to show Ben's position alongside his rear tyre appears. The second move was unpredictable, and Ben could have definitely made it through (albeit with a couple wheels on the grass) had that second move to the right not occurred. IMO Jake's fault on that one
Honestly Ben, I'm sorry for what happened, but it serves you well for always sacrificing qualifying in order to have fresh tires. You didn't even have tyre advantage for the whole race... With the pace you had if you started P4 or something it would have been a different race.
Yeah this is so true and he's done it so many times. He says he's thinking ahead for the race but the strategy he picks doesn't even utilise his extra tyres.
In hindsight, with the improvements in the field, keeping extra softs for a late safety car was not the play. If you could have got into Q3 and started 5 or 6 places higher, you're in the championship mix.
Definition of a racing incident. Reasons: - Can argue that Meraki moved a second time to defend, forcing Ben off track - Can argue that it’s Ben’s risk to attempt an overtake, when two cars are already battling ahead - where would he go after? he’d have to brake on the grass, with two cars on his outside. Basically, both guys are RACING and both guys collided at the fault of each other
Loved watching the season from your pov ! He didn’t leave you space and I honestly think you deserved it but gg to all that raced . Love from the uk 🇬🇧
While that crash was definitely jake’s fault Ben could have easily won this season if he didn’t constantly overthink his strategy and focus so much on just jake rather than winning the race.
Question Ben. You tried to get through Q1 and Q2 on one set of tyres. But then you didn't all the extra softs in the race with the strategy you picked. We're you expecting more safety cars, and so more pit stops?
This league is one of the most entertaining but not having some sort of stewards system is hurting the fan experience because than double moves like Jake did to win the title and than act like he’s not at fault is just a sour taste
That's a tense season finale right there guys! For the people saying that Jake is totally in the wrong and that his move was unfair, I'll go back to Silverstone where others said the same about Ben's driving and Ben's supporters said "bro it's not that deep". Guess what? Jake's move wasn't that deep either. The people upset about that incident are the ones who have never driven a competitive league race in their life. That pure, hard racing man. These things happen so fast, I don't think there was any malice or intent involved. In saying all of that though, for Creator Series to go to the next level a panel of stewards would definitely be needed and I hope happens.
Bad luck. Meraki should have check before moving out of the way of THOMB DRS Zone. If he checked it could have been avoided. He should get a penalty. Not bias to anybody
Do they not hand penalties in this series? Moving twice under braking, crashing someone out and no penalty? Then again as much as i have followed the series is not alot but it more seems sometimes like touring car type of contact is allowed and moving under braking etc also allowed. If someone could explain me the rules of this series i would be thankful :)
only thing i think they do is give out race bans, fabio got one for deliberately crashing out, GB got one for taking out skyzii and skyzii got one for talking shit on twitter about it or something
It’s not a super serious league like WOR or PSGL. It should be obvious by there being a drivers voice chat and drivers from different teams communicating
@Tiametmarduk women, am I right? 😂 Didn't think I'd ever get a direct reply though, that's pretty cool given you're the first F1 content creator I ever followed! Good luck with the next series and I hope you wipe those smug grins off the Lafa Romero lads' faces!
He was controlling the crash by staying off the brakes. With the lack of grip that the grass gives, if he locked the rears, he would’ve been backwards before he had time to blink. Smacking the barrier was the best way to preserve his race
I know this is a semi serious league but there needs to be some sort of independent race stewards now. From the Mexico incident to Silverstone to what ever the hell Jake thought he was doing in Belgium, it’s clear you can kind of do what you want to gain/defend position. Obviously can’t rely on code masters penalty system so id like to see some form of penalty given out for over the top incidents like the 3 mentioned.
They probably won’t do that though. A big part of what makes people watch this is league is the somewhat questionable racing standards.
@@Hydraav2 I think that there is a balance. Obviously the midfield guys shouldn’t be scrutinised. But the front runners with how sweaty it is, should have some sort of ruling and would lead to better racing. Just one guys opinion
I've been saying exactly this since the end of the first season. It's hard to watch knowing anything can happen, and they will get away with it. The league is too competitive to not have stewards.
What about last time when it was Ben asking for slipstream off 3 other constructors ??? To help him?
@adamevans7740 that's just it it would keep everyone from driving questionably. Also slip stream is a little different than pushing off the championship rival. It was pretty obvious he was even looking in his rear view camera so there's not a chance he "didn't see ben"
What was Jake doing man. He looks back, pulls out to defend against a Tom dive, sees Ben on the inside and turns in on him even more.
and then proceeded to spend the entire rest of the race bitching to his chat about ben
He didn't even get a penalty for that did he?
I think it’s less blatant than you think it is. I don’t think meraki anticipated Ben to make that move in the first place and thought he was pulling out. He probably also thought that Ben went for a dive after that because all he saw were the red arrows. But it’s still on Jake.
If it were a real f1 race the fia would have given a 5 second penalty to Ocon
@@MooseTDIhe did?!
That's completely on jake no idea why he thought that was a clean defense he saw you and continued to turn in.
But well done for p2
In the heat of the moment you want to blame everyone else but reflecting on it, he might see it was his fault
Racing incident if anything, on Jake’s onboard he is predictable cause he keeps moving to the right the whole time, Ben should of done with Thomb did imo and lifted off throttle and went to the racing line as Jake’s line was compromised cause of Thomb
i know this is late but really from Jake perspective it's Ben that punted him out in corner after failed to brake earlier, rather than spining in grass
bruh it was litterally bens fault.
ya Jake 100% made a double move the first one he leaves the space then right when ben is along side he shove him off
On Jake’s onboard it looked smooth, all in 1 move, hard to tell tbh
@@CJ-uh8bk pfp twins
@@SlyViscio yup 😂
Give him a DT for turning into somebody and GAINING 7 sec. on Ben by doing so. Would have finished in p7 and Ben would have had a p4 winning on Countback...
watching the incident back at half speed you can see a second move to the right after Jake's car had returned to moving in a straight line.
This was just as the red marker to show Ben's position alongside his rear tyre appears.
The second move was unpredictable, and Ben could have definitely made it through (albeit with a couple wheels on the grass) had that second move to the right not occurred.
IMO Jake's fault on that one
My thoughts too. I can see what Jake was trying - to defend Thomb, then defend Ben, but you can't make two moves like that.
Yeah, I'm of the same view on this. 👍
He definitely moved twice
There’s no fucking way he gets to keep the win for that 😂 like Suzuka 1990 all over again…
Only thing is that 90 was justified because 89 was confirmed to be biased to Prost
Honestly Ben, I'm sorry for what happened, but it serves you well for always sacrificing qualifying in order to have fresh tires. You didn't even have tyre advantage for the whole race... With the pace you had if you started P4 or something it would have been a different race.
But he's still got a set of fresh softs to drive home on, so that's nice.
Yeah this is so true and he's done it so many times. He says he's thinking ahead for the race but the strategy he picks doesn't even utilise his extra tyres.
@@aryanjolly1990 thats because he always banks on safety cars
He is too dumb, even without thinking one could have won this
Yep Ben screwed up playing it safe during qualifying but Meraki would have had a penalty in real life, that’s a double move for sure
A famous quote from Fernando Alonso springs to mind watching this
"All the time you have to leave a space, okay? Understood?"
In hindsight, with the improvements in the field, keeping extra softs for a late safety car was not the play. If you could have got into Q3 and started 5 or 6 places higher, you're in the championship mix.
23:56 lmao
"Ben What happened" Ben: "Nothing just an inCHident"
Didn't realize El Rey returned
Viewers got robbed of an epic battle. Jake saw one glimpse and said nope
That was so intentional. One move, fine but he aggressively moved the wheel again once he was along side wow
Just came after watching season 6 of creator series. This is one of the best videos of Creator Series and I hope this is how season 6 will go down
Definition of a racing incident.
Reasons:
- Can argue that Meraki moved a second time to defend, forcing Ben off track
- Can argue that it’s Ben’s risk to attempt an overtake, when two cars are already battling ahead - where would he go after? he’d have to brake on the grass, with two cars on his outside.
Basically, both guys are RACING and both guys collided at the fault of each other
I can feel the pain what a driver of Ferrari feels when he comestoo close but loses at the end
clearly a double move atleast 10 sec penalty worthy
You deserved this win, I’m so mad, probably just as mad as you were.
Defenetly jake's fault it was kinda like Lance Stroll, Sebastian vettel 2021 brazil or Nico Rosberg, Lewis Hamilton 2016 Spain
Loved watching the season from your pov ! He didn’t leave you space and I honestly think you deserved it but gg to all that raced . Love from the uk 🇬🇧
2 seasons coming so close but finishing second, maybe the third season might be it! lets go for the championship title next season Ben!
Third time the lucky charm
That was crazy! Talk about a double move, about as blatant as it gets! Just out of curiosity tho os my team just totally dead?
While that crash was definitely jake’s fault Ben could have easily won this season if he didn’t constantly overthink his strategy and focus so much on just jake rather than winning the race.
Question Ben. You tried to get through Q1 and Q2 on one set of tyres. But then you didn't all the extra softs in the race with the strategy you picked. We're you expecting more safety cars, and so more pit stops?
No Ben don't keep it fresh, try to win creator series!! We want a Tiametmarduk WIN!
Where can i watch the full commentators thing, feel like you're watching real race on tv
You did your best mate be happy for what you did we'll see in next season come back strong and advance happy new year ❤
The commentary this race was probably the best all season. Some hilarious moments.
Absolutely enjoyed this season of Creator Series! Definitely the best content of F1 produced ever!
this league really needs some proper stewarding...
Jake would definitely cop a penalty if this was e sports
Ben moving like Freddie Rasmussen now, P2 again behind a different champion
This league is one of the most entertaining but not having some sort of stewards system is hurting the fan experience because than double moves like Jake did to win the title and than act like he’s not at fault is just a sour taste
That's a tense season finale right there guys! For the people saying that Jake is totally in the wrong and that his move was unfair, I'll go back to Silverstone where others said the same about Ben's driving and Ben's supporters said "bro it's not that deep". Guess what? Jake's move wasn't that deep either. The people upset about that incident are the ones who have never driven a competitive league race in their life. That pure, hard racing man. These things happen so fast, I don't think there was any malice or intent involved.
In saying all of that though, for Creator Series to go to the next level a panel of stewards would definitely be needed and I hope happens.
Bad luck. Meraki should have check before moving out of the way of THOMB DRS Zone. If he checked it could have been avoided. He should get a penalty. Not bias to anybody
fair play for keeping it cool ben
The crash on lap 1 reminded me of 2019 f2 spa
It was a max verstappen dive and max verstappen defend. Never goes well
In no way is that a racing incident he looked back and moved awful ending to a good season. You held it together better than I would of Ben salute
9:22 gives me terrible flashbacks to that day of august 2019...
Jake Should of been penalised for the double movement to block Ben...
You should have one , you deserved it.
Jake pulled a Schumacher 94 and 97
Jake knew what he was doing, screwed you.
this is the biggest robbery ever Jake thought he's him by defending 2 drivers.
What a robbery from Jake
Do they not hand penalties in this series? Moving twice under braking, crashing someone out and no penalty? Then again as much as i have followed the series is not alot but it more seems sometimes like touring car type of contact is allowed and moving under braking etc also allowed. If someone could explain me the rules of this series i would be thankful :)
only thing i think they do is give out race bans, fabio got one for deliberately crashing out, GB got one for taking out skyzii and skyzii got one for talking shit on twitter about it or something
It’s not a super serious league like WOR or PSGL. It should be obvious by there being a drivers voice chat and drivers from different teams communicating
Ben could easily win the championship if he didn’t fuck quali or his strat every race 😂😂😂
can someone please tell me which platform i can see the rasin chy guy who is pole position on controller,i cant seem to find him in yt
Shame it ends like this, shameless behavior too
Crazy Jake doesnt get a penalty for that
pearja et mskyzii sont les meilleurs français bravo pour votre participation a ce tournoi vous ferrai mieux la prochaine fois
Meraki tried a Schumacher and got away with it
Old news ... what is with this delay? i was looking forward to the finale and had to watch other people to find out what happened ...
That’s on Jake to be fair.
Yeah let's keep it civil but I was pissing myself on the commentary of the incident and your camera. 😂
Why does he look like a Mini character with the droopy eyes 😂
Brohh, P2 again... But if wasn't for 3 raze off, Ben was cooking!!!
*GOOD* @12:15
Ben is the real champion. That move from meraki was unacceptable. Well done to ben for the title
You had way more speed then him he also looked behind but still turned in to defend even more. He shoved you into the grass.
Considering you only used the 2 softs.. You should have gone for another attempt in Q2..
That was just the child of 3 different iconic crashes involving a Mercedes right there. More on Meraki but more avoidable by Ben being more patient
Jakes a fool man 😂
Great year bro .. on to next 1
almost a hakkinen move...great Ben keep fighting...
Whats the song in the intense moments
This is your personal blocker to block the spoilers 🚫🚫🚫🚫
23:52 😂😂😂
19:08 best comment ever
26:46 Strategia? Ferrari needs no strategy it’s very simple!
Wp ben, amount of times this dudes sacrifices qually to save tyres that he doesnt use.. whats the point, bottle job
Always a maid, never a bride. You’ll get a boat one day fella
Strategy cost you. Kept extra softs for no reason.
THE DRAMA!
Unlucky Ben mate
He’s Gotta know how quick you would be going compared to him there’s no chance that doesn’t cross his mind 🤔
Karma is one of my favorite things
whens the next season?
19:08 lol poo😂
u need to go against jarno...bucketlist
Is Ben testing or maining the Asetek wheel now?
“Let’s keep the comments civil”
*civil war ensues*
W Creator Series Commentators this time.
can we get that pasta recipe
If you wanted to be champion, turning up for every race helps dude 😂
If you want to be single, doing a league race on your girlfriends birthday is a sure fire way to achieve that
@@Tiametmarduk 💀
@@Tiametmarduk Ben a simple answer would have been enough xD, you murdered and roasted him in one Sentence
@Jeff-hk8th I wouldn't say roasted, it was a spot on reply! Though given my name is also Ben, I did 2nd guess who you were referring to
@Tiametmarduk women, am I right? 😂
Didn't think I'd ever get a direct reply though, that's pretty cool given you're the first F1 content creator I ever followed!
Good luck with the next series and I hope you wipe those smug grins off the Lafa Romero lads' faces!
Ben deserved it...not only the crash...but he wasn't there 1 race...
26:42 well you are racing for Ferrari so bad strat. calls is kinda a must isnt it? haha
ggs to Jake for winning. Unfortunate circumstance but fun to watch!
Why’s everyone going onto inters in qualifying
Saying are you serious my guy there was never any room to begin with on the right side of the track and you know it.
That crush was unlucky
It astounds me how rasin doesn’t win a championship with the dominance he has in pace
Lesh go been waiting for this.
Last to first next season?
Who tf eats 'paaasta' with a spoon 🙆🏾♂🤣
23:13 - going full speed at the 100 barrier, how exactly do you think you'd have got through that corner?
He was controlling the crash by staying off the brakes. With the lack of grip that the grass gives, if he locked the rears, he would’ve been backwards before he had time to blink. Smacking the barrier was the best way to preserve his race
Well this man ever win a championship? Lol
Ferrari 🤝 hoping for a safety car on the season finale