So I'm a big rectifier guy, but I have never played the Rev F or G models from back in the day. I have a MW Dual, and I've had Triples, Rectoverbs, and Mini rectifiers in the past. What strikes me the oddest about this video, and it could just be how this particular amp is miked, but how very very close this sounds to my Badlander 100. I actually felt like the Badlander sounds nothing like a rectifier, because I've been comparing it to the MW Dual and other more modern rectos I've played. But maybe it really is a good throwback to what these 90s amps were all about. Or I could be completely wrong too, that's always a possibility! Cheers on a great video!
Thanks good sir! I know the badlander is supposed to be more similar to these older ones but I haven't played one yet. I had a 3 channel rev g triple which was very similar to this in terms of overall tone and feel especially with the loop master bypassed. I'd say a lot of why this sounds more like a badlander is because it's a single bright sm57 close to the center (brightness spot) on a bright speaker (v30). To me the true magic of the rectifier is the rectifier tubes and power sag when you need it. Been wanting a multi-watt though! and to try the badlander. Cheers
I have the Badlander 100 and Rev G triple. The key to get Badlander to sound like old rectos is to use a parametric EQ in the loop, set around 580hz and cut that frequency. Then set 1khz and cut slightly. You’ll get into rev G scooped mids territory. Also use spongy mode on Badlander. I also have Mr Scary in it for more gain and I use Crunch channel.
I own a 98' Triple Rectifier Rev G 2ch head. I run a Lone wolf audio Endless Blockade in the effects loop. And in my personal opinion the amp doesn't even need a boost. It's just so damn thick and clear sounding, especially with the Seymour Duncan Active EMTY AB3 Mick Thomson black outs. It just goes together like a PB&J sandwich
Siiiiiiick! I think for slower/mid-tempo stuff it's prettttty great without a boost but for faster/metal stuff it helps for sure. Especially on the 3 channel ones which I find a bit mushier/loose. What cab/speakers are you running yours through?
@@acrylicrecording I am either running it through a Randall XL V30 straight cab or the matching 90's Mesa OS Rectifier V30 Slant cabinet. Sounds great in either cabinet. As for the guitar its nothing fancy just a beater, made in Korea LTD301 Viper set neck with the Mick Thomson Active EMTY AB3's from Seymour Duncan. I will be retubing it soon though. Now keep in mind I am mainly playing hard rock meets hints of punk rock, and also metal in Drop C and D standard tuning. For my style of playing.
@@acrylicrecording Yes and no, the factory Mesa glass from the 90's don't do these amps any real justice. I'd highly recommend, hitting up Bob at Eurotubes and getting a solid retube kit. He can recommend you kit that suits your style of playing. Because in regular 6L6 mode you're at around 19ma's of bias when you need to be in the 30's for ma for 6L6's. So Mesa does infact set the bias range for the fixed bias super cold in 6L6 mode. The hot ticket is getting hotter grade 6L6's and running them in EL34 mode.
Yeah it’s confusing how mesa labels the amp. The “master” I’m referring to is the “output” knob. The thing labeled on the amp labeled “master” is what most amps would refer to as channel volume. But because you can bypass the effects loop, where the “output” or traditionally called master volume they called the channel volume master. If that makes sense
@@acrylicrecording I'm not really sure about the inner workings of this amp, but based on the fact that your loop light is off I think it's safe to say that you are bypassing the loop. I just picked up my first triple rec G and for the volumes that I'm playing, it sounds better using the loop master and setting the regular master at about 11. The amp sounds leaner this way and more open. I'm sure at stadium levels, bypassing the loop would be a better option. I imagine it was pretty loud in the room when you were playing.
@@acrylicrecording awesome vid! Question, do you happen to know if this issue is there with the multi-watt dual recs? I ask b/c I run the effects loop and do in fact use the "output" knob. Are there issues regarding this with newer dual recs?
@@YtseJuan I haven't had the chance to really experiment with a multi-watt (next on my list though) but from what I've heard they spent a long time fixing the effects loop/master/output on the multi watts! It's more of an issue with the original 3 channel ones. And not really a big issue at that, maybe just better to bypass when recording for a bit of a "clearer" tone. Jealous of your multi-watt!
@@5150forevermore I find noise gates are almost always better in the front of the amp, and if it’s REALLY noise still it usually means you’ve got too much pre amp gain. But if that’s what you dig, you’d put a second gate in the FX loop. As for FX like delay or reverb I’d use the FX loop and turn on the master volume. With the master volume on it’s just a little softer and a little choked sounding. But by a very minimal amount so it wouldn’t be that big of a deal for like a lead with reverb or delay. But for rhythm guitar recording I would bypass the master volume. I think on the multi watt rectifiers they’ve got a great FX loop
Also I’d note that the master volume on this two channel one is pretty good like I described. It the master volume on the 3 channel non multi watt ones you REALLY want to bypass. All that super high fizzy distortion is because of the master volume it’ll go away when you bypass it
@@acrylicrecording Does your Rectifier hum quite a bit when youre in the Silicon Diode and Modern settings? It's weird I switch it to Vintage and the hum/buzz goes away. The tone itself sounds great but it's like the noise floor gets raised quite a bit on that mode.
@@acrylicrecording some guitarist have crazy money out there. There was that guitarist from RATT that went deaf trying to find the ultimate amp, by buying a shit load of Marshall's and testing them all at once or something to that effect. Don't pull it past some rich people. Maybe I should also suggest it be 666 watts of all tube power, and have a tube tremolo, with a effects loop! So what if it looks like a old government computer from the 1950's!?
Thank for the tip I bypassed my effects loop and my Three Channel sounds about 10 times better. My rig has so much more bass than yours though even with the bass set below 2.
No problem! I used to hate rectifiers because I didn't know how to dial them in at all and that loop bypass is one of the main things to do to learn the amp. Having the output control around noon is essential level matched to bypass. As for the low end, I'm running a tube-screamer pretty much the entire video i think. The sm57 is in a brighter spot, and doesn't really pickup too much low end, plus i've got it like CRANKED stage volume so that evens out the low end a bit with the highs, the volume knob is the tone knob!
So I'm a big rectifier guy, but I have never played the Rev F or G models from back in the day. I have a MW Dual, and I've had Triples, Rectoverbs, and Mini rectifiers in the past. What strikes me the oddest about this video, and it could just be how this particular amp is miked, but how very very close this sounds to my Badlander 100. I actually felt like the Badlander sounds nothing like a rectifier, because I've been comparing it to the MW Dual and other more modern rectos I've played. But maybe it really is a good throwback to what these 90s amps were all about. Or I could be completely wrong too, that's always a possibility! Cheers on a great video!
Thanks good sir! I know the badlander is supposed to be more similar to these older ones but I haven't played one yet. I had a 3 channel rev g triple which was very similar to this in terms of overall tone and feel especially with the loop master bypassed. I'd say a lot of why this sounds more like a badlander is because it's a single bright sm57 close to the center (brightness spot) on a bright speaker (v30). To me the true magic of the rectifier is the rectifier tubes and power sag when you need it. Been wanting a multi-watt though! and to try the badlander. Cheers
I have the Badlander 100 and Rev G triple. The key to get Badlander to sound like old rectos is to use a parametric EQ in the loop, set around 580hz and cut that frequency. Then set 1khz and cut slightly. You’ll get into rev G scooped mids territory. Also use spongy mode on Badlander. I also have Mr Scary in it for more gain and I use Crunch channel.
Great look on this recto ! I sent mine to Hermanson for his mod . His nameplate would look coolest on this amp . This looks killer
I own a 98' Triple Rectifier Rev G 2ch head. I run a Lone wolf audio Endless Blockade in the effects loop. And in my personal opinion the amp doesn't even need a boost. It's just so damn thick and clear sounding, especially with the Seymour Duncan Active EMTY AB3 Mick Thomson black outs. It just goes together like a PB&J sandwich
Siiiiiiick! I think for slower/mid-tempo stuff it's prettttty great without a boost but for faster/metal stuff it helps for sure. Especially on the 3 channel ones which I find a bit mushier/loose. What cab/speakers are you running yours through?
@@acrylicrecording I am either running it through a Randall XL V30 straight cab or the matching 90's Mesa OS Rectifier V30 Slant cabinet. Sounds great in either cabinet. As for the guitar its nothing fancy just a beater, made in Korea LTD301 Viper set neck with the Mick Thomson Active EMTY AB3's from Seymour Duncan. I will be retubing it soon though. Now keep in mind I am mainly playing hard rock meets hints of punk rock, and also metal in Drop C and D standard tuning. For my style of playing.
@@untoldguitarist Niceeee! Yeah that setup sounds killer for hard rock/punk rock! awesssome
@@acrylicrecording Yes and no, the factory Mesa glass from the 90's don't do these amps any real justice. I'd highly recommend, hitting up Bob at Eurotubes and getting a solid retube kit. He can recommend you kit that suits your style of playing. Because in regular 6L6 mode you're at around 19ma's of bias when you need to be in the 30's for ma for 6L6's. So Mesa does infact set the bias range for the fixed bias super cold in 6L6 mode. The hot ticket is getting hotter grade 6L6's and running them in EL34 mode.
Jesus that sounds huge!
It's massssssive haha
Play some TOOL off the Undertow record with that badboy.
Next go i will!
Thick and juicy. Nice and full. Classic Rectifier high gain tone.
Sounds great, but I don't what you mean when you say "master volume is bypassed" when you were clearly adjusting it during the video.
Yeah it’s confusing how mesa labels the amp. The “master” I’m referring to is the “output” knob. The thing labeled on the amp labeled “master” is what most amps would refer to as channel volume. But because you can bypass the effects loop, where the “output” or traditionally called master volume they called the channel volume master. If that makes sense
@@acrylicrecording I'm not really sure about the inner workings of this amp, but based on the fact that your loop light is off I think it's safe to say that you are bypassing the loop. I just picked up my first triple rec G and for the volumes that I'm playing, it sounds better using the loop master and setting the regular master at about 11. The amp sounds leaner this way and more open. I'm sure at stadium levels, bypassing the loop would be a better option. I imagine it was pretty loud in the room when you were playing.
@@acrylicrecording awesome vid! Question, do you happen to know if this issue is there with the multi-watt dual recs? I ask b/c I run the effects loop and do in fact use the "output" knob. Are there issues regarding this with newer dual recs?
@@YtseJuan I haven't had the chance to really experiment with a multi-watt (next on my list though) but from what I've heard they spent a long time fixing the effects loop/master/output on the multi watts! It's more of an issue with the original 3 channel ones. And not really a big issue at that, maybe just better to bypass when recording for a bit of a "clearer" tone. Jealous of your multi-watt!
What do you mean by dont use the Master volume? Do you just use the Loop Active Master and keep the Master on the low side?
aka bypass the loop entirely (the master volume is the loop) and use the volume on each channel to set the output levels
@@acrylicrecording Im kinda new to rectifiers. So I take it you dont bother with noise gates or FX Loop type pedals?
@@5150forevermore I find noise gates are almost always better in the front of the amp, and if it’s REALLY noise still it usually means you’ve got too much pre amp gain. But if that’s what you dig, you’d put a second gate in the FX loop. As for FX like delay or reverb I’d use the FX loop and turn on the master volume. With the master volume on it’s just a little softer and a little choked sounding. But by a very minimal amount so it wouldn’t be that big of a deal for like a lead with reverb or delay. But for rhythm guitar recording I would bypass the master volume. I think on the multi watt rectifiers they’ve got a great FX loop
Also I’d note that the master volume on this two channel one is pretty good like I described. It the master volume on the 3 channel non multi watt ones you REALLY want to bypass. All that super high fizzy distortion is because of the master volume it’ll go away when you bypass it
@@acrylicrecording Does your Rectifier hum quite a bit when youre in the Silicon Diode and Modern settings? It's weird I switch it to Vintage and the hum/buzz goes away. The tone itself sounds great but it's like the noise floor gets raised quite a bit on that mode.
When are they coming out with the hexa rectifier?
With tube prices these days, never hahaha.
@@acrylicrecording some guitarist have crazy money out there. There was that guitarist from RATT that went deaf trying to find the ultimate amp, by buying a shit load of Marshall's and testing them all at once or something to that effect.
Don't pull it past some rich people. Maybe I should also suggest it be 666 watts of all tube power, and have a tube tremolo, with a effects loop!
So what if it looks like a old government computer from the 1950's!?
Thank for the tip I bypassed my effects loop and my Three Channel sounds about 10 times better. My rig has so much more bass than yours though even with the bass set below 2.
No problem! I used to hate rectifiers because I didn't know how to dial them in at all and that loop bypass is one of the main things to do to learn the amp. Having the output control around noon is essential level matched to bypass.
As for the low end, I'm running a tube-screamer pretty much the entire video i think. The sm57 is in a brighter spot, and doesn't really pickup too much low end, plus i've got it like CRANKED stage volume so that evens out the low end a bit with the highs, the volume knob is the tone knob!