You May Have the Tithe Wrong - What God Told Me About Tithing | Troy Black
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- The Holy Spirit spoke to me a prophetic word about the tithe, offerings, and biblical stewardship. What God showed me about tithing in the bible may come as a surprise, as this word is different from what most of us may have grown accustomed to in the modern American church.
Note: In this video, I say Jesus only talks about tithing one time, but I misspoke. He also mentions tithing in Luke 18:12.
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Thanks for the video brotha it made it easier for proof of the conviction an the study I did years ago an what The Holy Spirit taught me I wanted to post something on my profile an I used this video Bec of a sister that mentioned tithe...
You do not fear God he told you to write about the time but you never said what the scripture says about who's supposed to tithe and what's supposed to be tied he told you the foundation was wrong and you're afraid to say it you're going to pay for it he told Ezekiel if you don't say what I tell you to say and they die in their sin you're going to be accountable. Quit trying to be a man pleaser like your pastor and everybody else and try pleasing God. You're not telling the truth about time no one ever ties except those who raised animals and grew crops. There's no scripture that says you're supposed to tithe your wages that you earned it's not there brother quit not telling the truth or you going to hell that's what the Bible says but you don't want to hear it you're afraid to pray and ask God if you're right or wrong the god you're listening to is not the god I listen to cuz he told me to tell you this I don't gain nothing from telling you this except your blood's off my hands you're wrong and your soft open the word of God being a people pleaser. You're afraid of people not God.
I THOUGHT IT WAS THE CANAANITES AND THAT IT HAD TO DEAL WITH THEIR PORTION OF BLESSINGS AND THE OTHER REMAINING TRIBES WERE TO PAY THEM THEIR PORTION IN TITHE.
AS FOR THE CIRCUMCISION SCRIPTURE SAYS THE MALES ARE TO HAVE THAT DONE. YOU'RE SAYING NO? WELL I SAY TO THAT, THE HOSPITALS FORCE THAT ON MALE BABIES, BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO BRING THEM HOME.
I was walking across the parking lot to go into the church service at our church, just took 100 out of my account before I got there to give to the Church.As I was walking a homeless man came up to me and asked me for help, I gave him the 100 I was gonna give to the church.I didn't feel bad at all, actually I felt Great!
Matthew 25:40 You did a great thing
Good for you
Another scripture is Esaia 58: 6-10
Stay Blessed
Awesome
All you have belongs to God and it needs to go where he tells you to give it not with the church is telling you to tithe to the church you need to listen to God it's his money not yours it's not the church's money it's God's money all that you have belongs to God and you need to be led by the spirit where to give.
You got it Margaret listen to God not to the pastor they're lying to you about to tithe the only ones required to tithe we're Jews and the only Jews required for those who raise animals and raise crops no one was ever required to tithe income juice
Whoever reading this, God knows what you are facing through, he heard your cry, He is going to deliver you. Just trust in him
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Amen
Amen, thank you ‼️
Amen Thank you
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God never sends you into a situation alone, God goes before you, He stands beside you, He walks behind you. Whatever situation you have right now be confident. God is with you. AMEN
Thank you so much ‼️
Under the Second Covenant , The Almighty made our body by faith to be His Living Temple or His Church ,build upon human body were no one can build and His Spirit will dwell upon human body to be GOD WITH US ( Emmauel).
@Carol Ann Pinkerton I am very sorry to say , no evidence in any sort on The Almighty ELOHIM as you ask for. Its only a matter if you believe HIM or not. I lost nothing if GOD doesnot excess, but I lost my soul eternally if HE ever does, by not believing, accepting, understand HIS sacrifices as well HIS offer of Redemption from our sins.
@Carol Ann Pinkerton according to Apostle Paul in 1Cor.9 : 14 - 19 qoute some portion of the verses : 14 :The Lord ordained that they which preach the Gospel, should live of the Gospel
15: But i have used NONE OF THESE THINGS; neither have I written these things, that it should be so done unto me.for it were better for me to die, than that any man should make my glorifying void...... and in 2Thes.3: 8-10 neither did we eat any man's bread for nought but wrought with labour and travail night and day, that we might not chargeable to any of you. 9: to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. 10: this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat.... therefore under 2nd Covenant, tithes is no longer applicaple. Man, pastor, priest preacher should find , work and eat his own bread .
@Carol Ann Pinkerton common sense dictates that I do agree what Paul said. Man had to work inorder to survive. I some times donot agree what the preacher says or teach , for i believe most of them, not all, are wolf in sheep clothing and decievers. i am not a member of any christian church denomination. But i do believed that there is only One God, The Almighty God and Saviour.
I tithe not because of the law but just my sincere appreciation to God for giving me good health, good job, beautiful family and most importantly giving me the heart to love him and live with him.❤️❤️
Let me tell you why this is dangerous: what if your health wasn’t good? Would you still give tithes? It’s important to understand WHY we do what we do so we can challenge ourselves to know what. BREAKS us when things get hard. That’s why we need to give with love a generous offering and not a tithe because a tithe was mandatory... everything we do under grace is by Love ❤️
God sees your steadfast faith and will bless you for your diligence and help to others.
@@Candaicelovesjesus Thats fine, but its not a tithe..a tithe means "tenth" and it pertains to agriculture, not money. It is an offering.
God bless you ❤❤❤❤
Amen! A great full Heart is what God needs !
Troy thank you for your obedience in sharing this message. My husband learned this years ago through an experience where he had ask the church he was tithing to where the money was going. They told him it was none of his business. God spoke to him that he should indeed know. So he decided to set up a bank account just for the tithe. He tithed off of his gross income including what he paid his employees. He would listen for God to speak to him on where to give his money. One day God spoke to him to give more than what was in that account. He said "God, you don't have that much in your account." God didn't respond. He then realized that EVERYTHING he owned belongs to God. From that point on he listens to God on how to give and what to give. There is great importance in listening to Holy Spirit, whom Jesus Himself said would be the one to lead us into ALL the truth. The one thing missing greatly in the church is truly teaching people to seek to hear God's voice and obey what He says. God does speak specific commands to us as individuals. He has specific plans for each of us. We can only know those specific plans if we hear them from Him. I pray that His family, we can trust and believe in God's ability to lead us by His Spirit. 🙏
You speak Truth.
When they tell you it's none of your business I tell them I don't belong here because we have enough secret societies and the true church was never meant to be one. Sounds like an us and them church with aristocrats in leadership. Leave before they hurt you!
This is exactly what I had heard about in the church that I grew up in. A lady asked where the money was going and the church elder coldly and seemingly hatefully told her it was none of her business. If it were me, I would have said, okay, if it is none of my business, I will give it somewhere else.
@@DebraB406 actually after writing this comment the Lord lead me back to Deuteronomy where it talks about the curses and blessings of breaking and keeping the law. I was reminded that when you break one law, you have broken them all. I am realizing that by teaching tithing as law, or as some may refer to it as a "requirement"(which is basically a law) that could bring a curse upon you, ministers are doing a very dangerous thing. People are being taught to keep this one law when they are most likely breaking all others. We are either under the whole law or not. To bring forth and keep the tithe itself as law or requirement is keeping people tied to the whole law. People need to understand that not tithing does NOT mean don't give. Ministers need to trust God for provision for what HE has called them to, not manipulate the people to give by using one law that somehow transferred into the new testament when other laws didn't. This is very dangerous. Listening again to this video, Troy said God told him he was removing a FOUNDATION stone from the church. That is a major thing. Yes we need to communicate in love, but ministers should realize the severity of what is happening here. God has been for centuries trying to get His people to LISTEN and OBEY His VOICE. Jeremiah even points that out in the old testament. When Jesus left, God gave us His Holy Spirit to live within us that we can be guided by Him daily. That should be emphasized far more than tithing. If people were taught with the same fervency to listen to the Holy Spirit daily, our entire world would be very different right now. There would be more than enough provision for what God wants done because people would be giving according to obedience rather than manipulation (fear of being cursed) and the blessings would flow freely and abundantly. Even to give out of the goodness of our hearts could still be too much or too little. Holy Spirit knows the exact amount and will gladly tell us. The word says He will not withhold one good thing from us. It's a good thing to know what mount of money to give to WHEREVER GOD wants the money to go. Let's not forget the widows, sojourners, orphans, prisoners, and the sick. That's a whole other subject!
@@gianaturella237 So, are you saying the amount we would be led to give doesn't have to go to a specific church, or it could go towards being used to minister to others that is not necessarily part of a church?
I keep commenting while listening to you. I'm reminded of when I was attending a church that said, " If any one here is not tithing don't come and ask us for help with food or anything. We'll look and if we see you're not tithing then. . ". I raised my hand in bewilderment and said , " I tithe. You have no record of it. I tithe in cash as unto God not man"
Amen, I tithe to God not man moving forward although I will still give as God direct my heart in giving. Amen.
@@iolawilkins1030 i want to do this too. Where do you distribute your money. Is it to the homeless etc?
There's a lot of scumbags in the church these days. Troy is one of them.
A very valid point,I used to put in cash when I had it but lately I used checks and I received my giving statement where I realized the cash didn't show up , now the reason I give check over cash is to make sure the money actually gets in the church account
Give us Barabas, we will give him the tithe, or better yet make us a golden calf🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I 100% agree. I use to tithe out of fear, but since I learned the truth, I have given much more than the tithe and blessings are coming in. Keep preaching the truth Brother. God Bless You! 💃💃💃🔥🔥
Finally an accurate word on this. For years something wasn't right in my spirit about some of the teaching on tithing. Well said.
Troy, two years later after you made this video, I literally only worked 60 hours because I've been having to leave work early pick up my daughter from school. My paycheck was significantly less this pay period and rent is due soon. Last night in the secret place with our heavenly father I asked him what I should give and he gave me an amount. My net pay is literally a little more than my rent is but I remembered the amount God told me to give. I love Jesus SO much and the only thing I want is to live a life that is in complete obedience to the Holy Spirit. I'm up for a possible promotion soon and I believe Jesus is testing me. And THIS video is my confirmation to what the Holy Spirit has been doing within me and what He has been telling me. Also, the last 3 or 4 times I've been asking Jesus what to give and He told me every time !!! Thank you for this video Troy, your obedience is still blessing others 2 years later. God bless you and your family in Jesus's mighty name
I love my church, and I love our missionaries. I give faithfully, and my heart is in it completely. Actually, I would be heart broken if for some reason I couldn’t tithe to my church. Our pastor puts his heart and soul in his teachings to us. I will continue to be obedient to the father, in anything he wants me to do. I am in my mid 70s, and these are the first messages I have ever heard differently about tithing. I don’t plan to make a change of heart, I will leave that up to the Holy Spirit. 🙏🏻
God took me out of church over a year ago and I set out to learn of him on my own , I laid it all down before him . Wow , my eyes and ears started to open to so many things that was wrong that was taught by man. Paying tidings kept me from truly helping people with compassion and my heart . I find more joy using my heart , the fruits are amazing ... may y’all be blessed 🐞
Read 2 Corinthians 6.17
Me too.I came out. Out from all the lies an deception.Most churches are evil.SATANIC CHURCHES.Im happy you got out.I know alot of people who also got rescued from the church
Me too came out of organised religion since 2004 and have never, ever look back..
When I came out I said to the Lord, I will sit at your feet, learn your Truth and will Go wherever this Truth leads me...
Had to unlearn and still is unlearning some of the erroneous teaching..
The Anointing is US teaches us all truth....period
@@wendyann3333 amen to that 🥰
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
You are So ON TARGET on this tithing issue. I have seen this for ever so long, but most Church-goers and leaders don't even dare consider that this tradition is Wrong. Only a very few say that they give to needy people rather than giving to the church. I pray the Spirit convinces His people of the Truth on this matter. ❤
Thanks Troy. I personally have struggled with this subject for years because it is so heavily preached in Protestant denominations but it never felt right. I did do diligence and researched in the Word and biblical commentaries and prayer. Bottom line. . . The Lord expressed to me that “It’s ALL His”. I found this FREEING! Now I give where it gives me joy. So much happier, and . . . The Lord loves a cheerful giver! Thank you for your courage! You are wading upstream!
All I can say is this is a confirmation of what God has been trying to speak to me. I felt condemned when I was unable to tithe. But God placed an impression on my heart that His love is not measured by my tithings but by my obedience and my intention of tithing.
Thanks very much brother!!! I saw this when i visit my homeland, I saw my sister-law gave tithing to her SDA church. She is widow(husband) passed away, and she will suffer with her children to give tithing to their pastor. Her family are living in poverty line and her SDA pastor living in a big mansion and driving luxurious car. Her poor family are vegetarian to save money for their tithing.
Please open your eyes stop tithing. Give what you can give.
Tithing (giving), you don’t have to but you get to. The Lord loves a cheerful giver. Give to your church or the poor out of your love of God and your brother. God will bless you now and in Heaven. This covers both your blessing to others of your time and money.
Amen. Your reward is in Heaven so always give. It's our Christian duty to do so. Matt 25: 39-41. God bless everyone for giving to those in need. Thank u and amen.
I believe what confuses ppl about the tithe is, you are either jew or gentile,the law was never for the gentiles.The tithes was a requirement for the Jews under the old covenant, under the new covenant is where we as Christian's are to give cheerfully and as we have to give,not out of necessity.
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
@@busman4133 your repetitive response to every person that think different than you is disrespectful and annoying..
Yes give to the poor and to the church if you feel like. Not these lies some of these pastors blackmail their congregation with.
I totally agree with your word of knowledge and love how you’ve backed it up with scripture! 💯
The Lord revealed this to me about five years ago. I give (to ministries that feed me, but mostly to those in need) when the Holy Spirit leads me and only when there is joy in my heart in doing so ❤️☝🏻🕊
Troy, this is a revelation I received back in 2007, and I am free from having to pay the tithe, though we do give at least a tenth to the church we belong to. I give generously as the Lord directs. God wants us to be free and generous in our giving.
God bless you
Amen, I'm still giving what I can because its for God!
Thank you Troy for your courage. You are going crossways with Protestant Church teaching. I struggled with this topic early after my salvation. After do diligence studying in the Word, researching biblical scholars commentaries and much prayer . . . The bottom line was when the Lord expressed to me that “It’s aLL His”. I found this very FREEING. Now I give where it gives me joy! After all . . . The Lord loves a cheerful giver :0)
I am glad I saw this video, for years I went to a church where they did teach on faithfully tithing and you couldn't even be involved in ministry if you weren't a faithful tithe payer. I remember one Sunday after church services, my husband and I were invited over to the pastor's house. When we got there, we were lectured about the importance of paying your tithes and was told that if we didn't pay our tithes, that we were under a curse. This conversation with the pastor lasted about 2 hours. When my husband and I left there, we were fearful that God had placed a curse on us and this is the reason why we don't have this or don't have that. For years, my husband and I were beat upside the head with Malachi about being cursed with a curse and I always thought I was cursed. It took years to be free of living in fear of bad things would always happen to us because sometimes we didn't pay our ten percent. Thank you for this video, my husband and I give out of love for Christ and we give cheerfully. I thank God for his word and may God continue to use you in this time.
I,m sorry paula today that you were subjected to this,nowhere in the new covenant is tithing taught to the new testament church.We are redeemed from the curse by our Lord Jesus Christ(Gal 3:13.)To tell you the truth,those who tithe according to Malachi are cursed because they are putting themselves under the law of Moses as our brother stated.Now people say they do it for right motives but it does not change the fact they are sinning,yes sinning doing it because they walk away from grace and put themselves under law.They go into darkness and when the sin is full grown it brings forth death.All these things are discussed in Galatians and the new testament.It was a constant challenge the apostles faced keeping the people from being put under Moses law.Those who espouse it are deceived at best and theives at worst.My brother talks of unity and it is important but also deception is to be exposed,This sin will send many in the end to be estranged from Christ.(Gal 5:1-11)v 4 particularly.
I have felt in my heart that the church have been deceiving us on tithing, whether intentional or not. With that said, I will continue to give as the Lord directs me.
The money tithe came from Constantine putting it in the catholic church when he made Christianity the official religion of the Roman empire
Same here but I was called to preach and the f I don’t pay tithes I will not be able to get in ministry. God knows the truth that I’m willing. I just stopped tithing after 61/2 years. Tithing, offerings, love offerings and 6 months pledges.
This is a subject I have had on my mind. I am so glad you shared this today. You have no idea. I have seen people who are checking all the boxes yet I’ve never seen them show a real sense of love and generosity to Christ’s brothers’ and sisters’. I, like you, would pay my tithing when I was babysitting at the age of 12. I thought I would be punished if I didn’t. Another example, my 76 year old Mother was crying and she said “I’m not going to Heaven. I don’t pay my tithing”
It made me so sad. I thought oh my goodness, this is not what it’s all about. Some people really can’t afford it. But, like you said, it’s what is in your heart. Anything you can give, and I don’t believe it has to be monetary. Maybe you can help someone who needs some extra assistance due to age or illness. Pray for guidance and ask God to lead you to who needs your help. Things like that have always made more sense to me. Thank you, Troy for another great video.
We are not under the law but under grace.. thank you for your confirmation..
That message was the absolute truth! I studied tithing some years ago and God showed me the exact same thing. I now give with so much joy!!!
I came to that conclusion about tithing almost 30 yrs ago so I am definitely on the same page with you. However, I would go go further by saying that the tithe law was strictly for the tribes of Israel and has nothing to do with Christians. Christians aught to give cheerfully out of love and not out of any commandment.
I only recently subscribed to Troy and I discern he is quite genuine.
Keep up the good work brother. GB.
Thank yu man God I truly believe in what yu are saying God bless yu
I dont agree that tithing is only for the Isrealites it is for us today as well, how would the Church of God survive if We who ate Christians do not tithe,when you tithe you honor God for blessing you, and more you give to the Church of the Living God the more you will be blessed, since my husband and I started paying our 10 percent every month we are blessed. When you are obedient to God He blesses you more abundantly, my husband and I are blessed since we started paying our tithes, from our pension. Glory to God, thank you Lord Jesus.
@@theresawilliams3084 read the New testament Jesus clearly says God loves a cheerful giver he doesn't mention anything about tithing like the old testament because if you tithe like the old testament then you would also give 10% to the government which means you were giving up 20% of what you make. Tithing is clearly defined differently in the New testament has nothing to do with giving only 10%
@@theresawilliams3084 amen
@@colt4531 I agree! Good word.
God has been so good to me I'm giving every chance I get. In this pandemic God has blessed so much. I'm an essential worker, working since this virus started. I know it's the blood of Jesus covering me. In the good and bad times I know God is with me. So I'm tithing. It's part of my worship.
amen and obedience ( which is what you're doing by tithing) is worship.
Y’all mixing law with grace.. so if you stop tithing are you cursed with a curse? No! You are saved by Grace through faith!
Wrong,God demanded tithing just from the nation of Israel not for
the church
If you feel that you're doing what's it's o.k.,you could even give12-15-20%of your income if you understand that you been blessed and you feel motivated to be generous and a cheerfully giver
I remember when I had just received the Holy Ghost and I was sitting in my car and God said you me clear as day “Do you trust me” I said “ Yes Lord I trust you”. and before I could finish that sentence He said “Then why don’t you tithe” I laughed to myself and I said ok Lord. Mind you, this was not in accordance to the law but God was testing my obedience and strengthening my Faith in Him at the time. I still give 10% out of obedience to what God told me that day but I don’t believe this is a requirement to all. God does things to test our hearts and obedience and trust in Him. It was a personal conviction. Listening to this helps though because I felt bad because there were times when I wasn’t able to give. God won’t condemn. This now reminds me to ask and seek the Lord before I give. Thank you for this video.
You better PREACH!
Don’t be so quick to believe Troy even though he means well and is a man of God, but take into consideration this biblical perspective since you and Troy mention the word “give” when it comes to tithing as if it is a sacrifice or offering and you don’t really owe God something or all of the money is yours, God said “BRING the tithes” in Malachi 3:10 not “give the tithes” because tithing is about bringing back as in “returning” what was God’s in the first place not “giving” like an offering. Tithing didn’t start with the Law but actually started with Abraham and his relationship with the Lord way before the Law came in which Troy does not talk about, Jacob also practiced it and was blessed, so if tithing went all the way back to Abraham because God taught it to them then it’s not about being under the old covenant law but about being in a relationship with God through Jesus Christ as a way of drawing closer to Him... and God also wants us to walk in the steps of Abraham like Paul says in Romans “but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham”. So for example, say that you borrowed my car keys for a drive and then came back to me and said “hey I really felt led by God to give you these car keys and bless you” that would sound strange because I would think “umm no you’re not giving me MY car keys you ‘brought’ me them because you owed them”. When God says “bring the tithes” he’s saying you’re not “giving” it to me, you’re “returning” what was already mine and I’m just letting you keep the rest of the 90% because I’m a good loving Father of grace. If you don’t return the 10% then you become a thief and that’s why God said in Malachi “you have ROBBED me in TITHES and offerings” and then he says “you are cursed with a curse for you have robbed me” so you end up cursing yourself if you don’t immediately separate your financial increase in what belongs to the Lord (just like you would bring curses upon your life and allow the enemy to get into your life with the sin of gambling), therefore if you were given $100 it should be natural to put aside $10 without hesitation (as natural as it is to put your clothes on in the morning - you don’t think too much about it) as if you are seeing the person actually really giving you $90 because you quickly in your mind automatically subtracted what was God’s the moment you knew you were receiving it (now if you understood real true biblical tithing like this then there can never be an excuse to forget to do it or not be able to do it). This principle of the Kingdom of God is to keep your heart in check with your money because God owns everything and returning the 10% is a way of trusting and acknowledging him, then he will bless the rest of the 90% and you should be and feel GRATEFUL, not feel “generous” like you are giving in generosity what is yours but “grateful” in wanting to worship him because he was the one being generous in letting you keep the rest of what was always his. If you’re continually obedient just with tithing then your heart will stay prepared in humility to give an offering of 50% or even 100% if he asks you to one day.
@@ReleaseTheAnointing hello brother. God told me this also years ago. We are responsible for where we give & unfortunately many of our churches are poison. Consult the Lord in all things, that's probably why Mr Black gives more than 10% as he stated. It's all about the heart not obligation. Nevertheless, this is not about causing division, this was a "bridge crossing" teaching. Things are being revealed to many never heard before, even the previous teachings were new at 1 point. God bless you beyond your imagination & I love you incredibly!!!!!!!!!
Wow so God told you you should be doing something he doesn’t require anymore so according to the Bible your tithe should go to the state of Israel so how long have you been paying your taxes to Israel
Daniel u should be preaching this message, that's all we need people telling us not to tithe or leaving it up to them to decide how much. We should tithe, then also give when we get an increase. Proverbs 3:9,10
Or is that "under the law" since its in the OT? God wants to bless us so we should give Him something to work with, faith is to be used. So give with faith and see how He blesses, or will you keep what you got and hope He blesses?
Do not not give tithe to prosperity preachers, but to missionaries, evangelists, and churches with good stewardship. At times give to single moms struggling to pay rent or car repair. Give to orphans in need. Don't ever give to millionaire preachers. God bless you.
Amen. I give to worldwide Christian Ministries like Life Outreach International Ministries, World Vision ( Christian organisation for saving lives of vulnerable children n families) etc. Matt 25: 39-40. Thank you Jesus. Amen.
@@user23491
Yes indeed
And the King shall answer and say unto them, ‘Verily I say unto you, inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these My brethren, ye have done it unto Me.
Actually your tithe is suppose to go to your church. Offerings can go to others.
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
I think the tithe should only go to your local church; offerings can go anywhere, but if your church is Spirit-filled and Spirit-led, why not just give all your offerings to your local church too, or at least most of them. Tithe ( 10% of gross income) is different from offerings. Tithe goes to your local church. Offerings can go to any Spirit-led of Spirit-filled ministry that is teaching/preaching the gospel. But if your church is Spirit-led and Spirit-filled and preaching/teaching the gospel, why not give most of your offerings there also? I'm sure they have ministries ( like Children's church, youth ministry, etc.) or missionaries that they support. For offerings ( not tithe), you can specify where it goes ( like to which ministry) in the church. Or for an offering ( not tithe), you could say " this offering goes for any ministry in the church that you need it for." I don't think you should specify what they use the tithe for; that is for the leaders to choose what to do with it and they will be held accountable to God for how they use it.
What you are talking about is true .I have seen this happening in my life .During the lockdown I was not tithing at all and for this six months .
Everything was well no curses ,no breaking of things we had plenty of everything .All these years I have been tithing I was tithing because I was scared somthing will happen if I don't tithe .I was tithing under the law .
I thank God brother Troy for revealing this.God bless you.
The Old Testament is clear about tithing. CHURCHES have established budgets based on 10% from most members who give, but if they gave as the Lord purposed in their heart, the church can't have huge multimillion dollar budgets because the amounts would be different each week. The bottom line is CHURCHES have trusted in people instead of God. Whatever God ORDAINS, He MAINTAINS so if it's His CHURCH, He is FAITHFUL to keep the DOORS open for His WORK to be DONE.
@@keyahkeron 👋
..I prefer to help people locally and good charities ..also give to the church .
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
Blessed is the person who has never gone to church, whose parents, grandparents etc., never went to church and never was shaped, twisted, and warped by religious dogma handed down and taught from generation to generation, who one day received Jesus into his heart, and truly received Him as a little child. With a new found hunger that person could begin to read, study, and mediate in God's word and follow the Holy Spirit's teaching of Jesus. That person could receive miracles from Jesus with a purer, child-like faith. Personally, the church has served to screw-up my walk with Jesus and make walking by faith and being led of the Holy Spirit difficult, very hard, extremely complicated, and complex, with its recipes, witch's brews, and twelve step programs to serving and pleasing God. I have had many a shouting match at God, not with God, mind you, but at God. I can't count the times that in anger and frustration, I cused, not cursed, God out, and I mean I really railed on Him, until I had completely vented that build up of anger and frustration. I am still here and living. Nope not struck down with a lightning bolt by God. I question God much and I question Him often. I want whoever reads this to know that my walk with Jesus has never been better and stronger. By questioning what I have been taught through out my life about God, that very questioning has made it possible for me to discover Jesus in an intimate and personal way that I was not able to know Him before. Jesus has been working in me steadily by renewing my mind in His word, and is continuing to slowly break man's religion that has been so deeply entrench into my mind and soul, and give me a glimmer of hope, and allowed me to glimpse His light of truth for my life, and even then on many days, I think that I would benefit from professional therapy. I have truly begun to love people because that is what Jesus wants me to do. I deeply love Jesus in a way that goes much deeper than the superficial, surface love of the past, and more important than my love for Jesus, that continually grows daily, is my deeper understanding of just how much that Jesus loves me. I ask Jesus to continually reveal to me His love for me, and now I am able to begin to love other people because of the way that Jesus loves me. Keep on keeping on Troy. You be the man, one of God's men. I respect what your saying, and I respect that you are being faithful to what God is calling you to do and to say. God bless you.
the Son said, "I am come in my Father's name"
the Father's name is not jesus and so, neither is the Son's name jesus.
when my Brother walked this earth, no one existed by that name.
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
I am one of those of which you speak, my family were not Christian l never knew about Jesus until l was 26. Funny but l have often thought how lovely it would have been to have been brought up in a house of believers. Keep looking to Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith.
Troy, you did this better than anyone I've ever heard! I'm 74 and started titheing while I was working my way through college. Now I give. I can hear His voice and I simply obey. But, I did need the foundation of titheing. I think you understand.
We prophecy in part. Test the spirit. Tithe is for Levites then. Break the mold Mr Black! Glory!!!!!!!! This confirms what has been told to me.
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
@@busman4133 good information.
Acts 3:36-37 Joseph, a Levite from Cyprus, whom the apostles called Barnabas(which means “son of encouragement”), 37 sold a field he owned and brought the money and put it at the apostles’ feet.
This is how the Levite transfer the power of Tithes to the apostles. So they have the right to collect tithes. I hope that clarifies things.amen
I wrote a booklet about paying tithes. I was going through financial difficulties, as a Christian, I couldn't understand it. As a new believer, I was taught that we pay tithes. God showed me paying tithes was part of the law, just as you're saying, if we do one part, the weight of the whole law comes upon us. I stopped paying tithes, and started giving free will offerings, God began to slowly bring me into the freedom of grace, and from the bondage of the law, I have had no financial problems for years, your teaching on this is so needed today, thank you so much.
@@frick6946 There's not one verse of scripture in the New Testament that instructs believers to pay tithes. Tithing is not in the Ten Commandments, that were brought forward after the cross. Tithing is an ordinance of the law, "For I testify again to every man that is circumcised [an ordinance], that he is a debtor to do the WHOLE law [ALL the ordinances]" Gal. 5:3. Paul says if you bind yourself to one ordinance of the law [as paying tithes] you bind yourself to do ALL the ordinances [and there are over 600 listed in the Old Testament]. When Jesus died on the cross, He done away with the ordinances of the law, "Blotting out [banishing] the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it [the law of ordinances] to his cross;" Col. 2:14 The age of law died on the cross, and the age of grace was born. "Every man according as he purposeth [determines], in his heart, so let him give; NOT grudgingly, or of necessity [tithing was a necessity of the law]: for God loveth a cheerful giver [not payer]" 2 Cor. 9:7, you don't GIVE tithes, you PAY them. I learned this lesson the hard way, I hope this has helped you in some way, God bless.
@@sidrojoe Tithing was demonstrated and put into motion. before the law with Abraham when he gave "tithes" to Melchizedek . Tithes is plural. See Hebrews 7:6. Jesus is after the order of Melchizedek. Neither Jesus nor Melchizedek were from the Levite line of Levite priests who collected tithes. See Hebrews 5 about Jesus being after the order of Melchizedek. Jesus is now our High Priest. ( Hebrews 7) Our tithe should go to our High Priest, Jesus, to a ministry that is doing His will that is Spirit-led, Spirit-filled and is preaching/teaching the true gospel. Offerings ( that are different from the 10% gross tithe) can go to your local church also. God impresses upon my Spirit to tithe to my local church and give offerings above and beyond my tithe also. I also give a small offering to another ministry that is Spirit filled and Spirits led ( that is outside my church). My tithe always goes to my church. Jesus is our High Priest now and the ministry God has ordained you to be in locally , is where you should support His ministry work through your tithe, that is done through the people God has ordained to lead that Trinitarian church.
Even Levi paid tithes through Abraham. See Hebrews 7:9,109 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham. 10 For he ( Levi) was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchizedek met him. Abraham was before the Levitical priesthood. Jesus is our High Priest now, see Hebrews 7. Our tithe should go to a local church ministry that is doing God's will ( born-again, Trinitarian, Spirit-led, Spirit-filled, preaching/teaching the gospel )and to where God has led you. Offerings ( which are above and beyond the 10% tithe ) can go there too.
@@frick6946 Quote the scripture in the New Testament that instructs you to "pay" tithes.
@@frick6946 You say God impresses upon your spirit to pay tithes. If I feel an impression, as if from God, It will always be in line with scripture. The scripture you quoted (Heb. 7), gives no indication, nor instruction for New Testament saints to pay tithes, in fact, very little is said in the New Testament concerning the giving of money, and no set amount is given, Paul says we are to give as we purpose (determine) in our hearts (2 Cor. 9:7) According to Duet., Tithes were paid every third year which was the year of tithing. Tithing in the Old Testament was the equivalent of today's welfare dept., the church, and the government were one and the same. All that I have belongs to God, not just 10%. If you want to pay tithes, that's up to you, but paying tithes is not a requirement for believers in the New Testament.
Thanks for preaching this. Me and my wife were faithful tithers until our son was born and our childcare expenses overtook us. I tried to believe for a miracle believing God would miraculously fill in the gap and attempted to give the same amount as before. However that month we didn't just encounter a tremendous number of overdrafts, but $240 in just the overdraft fees alone nearly sucking our savings dry. I didn't tell my wife any of that and struggled with the guilt of failure thinking I didn't tithe with enough faith. Our finances improved some as our careers progressed so we made our meager savings back, but never tithed as generously and still carry some credit card debt. Being the one managing our account I struggled with my giving disobedience and never shared it. Internalizing it as my failure led me to stress, not taking proper care of my body, and developing an auto-immune disorder I still struggle with that put me through six hospitalizations. I try to take a faith approach in everything, confess that I am healed and God will make our finances stronger to give to every good work. But this autoimmune disorder caused me to stay home from many family vacations and robbed our finances with medical bills. I really needed this kind of teaching to remind me I'm still loved and that Jesus is my righteousness, not my works or lack thereof. I'm resilient, I've been through way more medical turmoil than I can post here, and believe I'm completely healed and God will make all this go away some day. But some days it's hard to find my joy. I've also questioned why God would give us a son, a blessing from Him, if He knew it would tax our finances to the point it'd interfere with His tithe. Thanks for helping set me free from all that. One of my chains just got weaker.
You are 1 of no telling how many people that are in similar situations as you dealing with serious medical issues. How would God expect someone to pay a church and put their needs on some kind of interest paying debt? I was involved with a similar situation as your but it was cancer patient running up debt while tithing. Yes i put a stop to it because theirs no way its a Christian way to run your finances.
Hi Michael. The Lord is all about the heart. He loves you like you love your child, and even more. If your child did not give you something or obey you, you would still love them dearly.
You were deceived and were under the spell of persuasion and the spirit of witchcraft.
In the name of Jesus, be free!
You are already healed. See it as Now. Jesus did it at the cross "By the stripes He bore, I WAS HEALED." Go read it. It speaks as past tense. Be blessed and keep seeing you have been healed. It's not in the future.
@@citizendc9 Very true. Many years ago a lady approached me about an elderly widow in the church I pastored and told me that she was going without food and sometimes unable to pay her rent. This dear lady was paying a tithe before anything else, leaving her short in other areas. I paid her a visit and showed her the words of Jesus "Render unto God the things that are His, and render unto Ceasar what are Ceasars"...I told her that God wanted her heart (which He had) but the landlord needed his rent, and she needed to eat and pay her bills. She took my advice and within a week or so she was asked by a family going overseas for a couple of years if she would live in their house rent and all bills free, plus there was a large freezer filled with food for her to use up. She got a beautiful home to live in for free for the next couple of years and was able to give to the Lord out of love and gratitude, without fear. God is faithful.
May The Lord Jesus Christ bless you my beloved Brother in Christ, I believe same, I can give how much The Lord wants me to give, but I am not when every Sunday tithing is preached, which makes new souls run away and never go to church!!!!
Blessings sir...your HUMILITY in delivering his word his awesome, countinue to follow his voice with strong conviction!!!!
God showed me over 25 yrs ago about the tithing! No one was preaching it but now its coming out more! I give when I'm lead to
Remember Gloria it's a heart issue when you don't give.
thank you very much for a good explanation.
Totally out of curiosity, is your giving greater than 10% or less
@@gerardoregan1979 yessssss..I give to church anywhere im lead , money to homeless, anybody
My giving is greater
The fact that your advice is for us to ask the Holy Spirit for ourselves 💥
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Have a great day!
God Bless! Stay strong, stay safe and take care of yourselves! Wishing everyone the best! Jesus loves you! May the Holy Spirit guide you! 😇 💗🕊
Troy, God showed me this too. I used to tithe sometimes and then couldn't pay my rent. Then I would ask the church to help me. One day I went to the Atm at my bank to withdraw the tithe and something happened to my transaction. I began studying Old Testament and God showed me the tithe was for the Levites. I still give an offering to the church that I can afford regularly. Praise God
Why give to the church that is an organisation, why not give to people around you in daily life that needs help that you know about ?
Thanks Troy! I have believed this for several years now and have searched the scriptures myself and found that what you are saying is true!
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
@@busman4133 Yess someones knows the truth.
Let Confirm the words of God from both of The *Old* & *New* Testament at the first :
God said in Malachi 3:10,
“Bring all the tithes into the
storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this,” *Says The LORD* of hosts,
“If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.
(Please check on 3:8-11 also)
These words👆 wasn’t a Law from Moses, but it was The Words which from The Mouth 👄 of God Directly...
👆Old Testament
👇New Testaments:
*Heaven & earth will pass away* but
*My Words* will by *No means pass away* . - Mathew 24:35
............Lord Jesus declared:
Do not think that I came *to destroy* the LAW or the PROPHETS.
I did *Not* come *to Destroy*
but *To Fulfill* . -Mathew 5:17
So,
We know that: God do Not Lies.
The revelation about this video in my heart is :
There is plentiful Churches ⛪️ ministries, Pastors which *wasn’t called by God* , but they Ordained themself for their own profits( which in purposes for their own wealth gain or Self honoring & much more comes from their worldly flesh desires, which leads by demons to astray the way of God and destroying many souls whom in following them).
So as these👆kind of worldly reason, people might *Avoid* decrease their own daily bread🥯 💵 to gives to those wrong places.. in this case, If the Holy Spirit guides you to gives *Offering to those True* servant of God whom in spreading the Gospel, it shall be a pleased things in God sight, the Scripture in The NewTestament:
“He who receives a prophet in the name of a prophet shall *Receive a prophet’s reward* .
And he who receives a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall *Receive a righteous man’s reward* .
And whoever *Gives* one of these little ones only a cup of cold water💧in the name of a disciple, *assuredly* , I say to you, he shall by *no means lose his reward* .”
- Matthew 10:41-42
So if you give Offering More than 10% , God will be pleased for your heart for to support those whom in spreading Gospel for Souls harvest. It is in The Purpose of *Filling up the house of God* already as Malachi 3:10.
Then, *Tithes* or *Offering* shall become as a Title only. Because your heart to support to spreading the Gospel for the souls is the fulfillment of the Commandments of God in His abounding blessings💗🕊
Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also
Such a lovely verse.
Thank you Troy for being so transparent and obeying the promptings of the Holy Spirit. This teaching was exactly what I needed to hear today in my walk with Christ! In the New Testament, Paul says to give with a heart not out of .
Some years back i saw the Lord showing favour upon me. I then understood that God does things to us His children purely out of love and compassion because we are His children not because we are good or faithful . He is our father and He provides for us. I remember that during that time when He showed up for me i skipped my tithe for that month. According to me i was not deserving that favour, but He showed up and showed off because He is our father. His love and faithfulness does not depend on our faithfulness or our unfaithfulness ,He is forever loving and faithful. Since then it's close to 4yrs now i have never skipped my tithe! Thank you Troy, God bless you.
I dont tithe into a church. I use that money to buy for the mission and to feed the poor. And I love what I do. I feel so good in helping.
Malachi 3:10
I value my church ,pastor and my brethren and feel my tithe is in support of the church and all the good things they do and will continue to do so. The promise of return is of no importance, God is good and supplys my needs as long as I obey Him. All is out of Love. Love is within the law.
Moses Law established the levitical priesthood -Deuteronomy 18:1 and Hebrews 7:28
Tithing was unto the Levites because they "shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel:" -Deuteronomy 18:1 & Numbers 18:26
tithing is NO MORE because the levitical priesthood is NO MORE.
ALL pastors who take tithes off the people are breaking the 10TH commandment. 1 John 3: 4. The wages of sin is death.
ALL who pay tithes are giving their money to satan's pastors causing them to break the 10TH commandment..
2 Cor. 11: 15.
John 19: 30 The Old covenant Finished. Tithing finished.
So it is written.
Yahweh said:" FEED the poor direct."
NOT feed the bellies of the pastors , Ministers and Priests.
Amen
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
@@busman4133
Moses law established tithes; paid to the Levitical priesthood, who served YAHweh, because they had NO inheritance among the children; their inheritance was YAHweh -Deuteronomy 18:1-2/Hebrews 7:5
Moses law was added because of transgression (worshiping of the golden calf) until the seed should come, the seed of David according to the flesh -Galatians 3:19
YAHshua was that seed of David according to the flesh (Romans 1:3) that did come -2 Timothy 2:8/Hebrews 2:16
When YAHshua said, "It is finished" Moses Law ended -John 19:30
because Moses Law ended, so to did the Levitical priesthood -Hebrews 7:12
and YAHshua was made High priest after the order of Melchisedec -Hebrews 7:21/Hebrews 7:28
tithing is no more.
@@lonestarst8 The tithe was instituted before the Levitical priesthood , when Abraham gave to Melchizedek. See Hebrews 7:6. Jesus is on the order of Melchizedek. Neither Melchizedek nor Jesus was a Levite. Jesus is our High Priest forever and ever. Hebrews 5:6,10. Jesus is our perfect High Priest now, we should give back to Him our tithes ( 10 % of gross to your local church if it is Spirit-led and Spirit-filled and is preaching/ teaching the gospel) and offerings.
Thank you for this,my spirit has been uneasy on this topic of tithing and for the longest of time. Because I couldn't understand why should I tithe when that will make my family suffer,especially those who need my help. To be honest God provides for me and my family because I give generously. The problem is my church(they put so much pressure and how u will be cursed and not protected). We parish because of lack of knowledge. Thank u for this I now know what I need to do.
By way of confirmation, I heard this message preached in the church more than 30 years ago. I am grieved to hear that so many are still laboring under a burden of fear. Grace and peace to you, from God our Father and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Matthew 6:33 "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you."
This message is very good...i found myself believing the same thing to be true..i stop feeling bad for not tithing...i give when the Holy Spirit speaks to me and always out of love never look for anything in return😇
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
@@busman4133 very interesting article! I shared with my Pastor and looking forward to his comments. Thank you!
Thank you, Troy, for sharing your heart. Personally, I give my tithe, my offerings and my alms joyfully to the Lord, because I love Him. He knows that all He has to do is ask and I will immediately give whatever He desires. When I did not give my tithe for a season, I struggled financially. The moment I began tithing in obedience to God's Word, I immediately began to be blessed in my finances. I can recall when the Holy Spirit convicted people for not giving their tithes. The moment they obeyed God, He turned their finances around. I agree with much of what you are saying, but so many believers are looking for a way not to give even ten percent of their income at all!
when you said you struggled financially when you didn't tithe ( 10% of your gross income), says it all; I'm afraid this teaching will draw people away from tithing and giving offerings to their local church and then they will struggle and not be in God's will. Jesus is our High Priest now ( see Hebrews 5, 6 and 7). The tithe was instituted before the Jewish Levite law, when Abraham gave tithes ( plural) to Melchizedek. See Hebrews 7:6 to see the word " tithes" for when Abraham gave.
Nowhere in the new testament are Christians taught to tithe,nowhere,not once.They are taught to give,according to what they have,they are taught to love,they are taught to have faith,but not a single time,NOT ONCE are they taught to tithe.Now the scripture are twisted to support tithing and our brothers message is true.If you tithe according to Moses law or you make it a commandment according like a law you sin and as sin when full grown brings forth death.To say"God told me"when His word does not.Someone is not truthful.I reiterate not once are Christians taught to tithe.
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Yeah I did the same thing. I gave $40,000.00 .Got back $95,000.00 Gave $95,000,00 got $3,000.000. Oh No, I just told everybody that. Well I recieved my reward already. C'mon there are sincere little lambs out there that need a Shepherd.
You are sadly mistaken. The modern teaching of the tithe is nowhere to be found in the New Testament. I tithed for many years and all it did was to put an incredible burden on me. The Lord showed me in scripture the correct way to give and since I've stopped tithing I have been more financially blessed than any time in my life. If you like I can give you 20 scriptures that refute that awful teaching.
@@mikemartinez842
I agree, good word.
Great message Troy my family are givers tithers but i really believe the Lord leads on giving when we listen to him and it fills us with joy to help with expanse of the kingdom . I dont believe pressure should ever be used on people on giving but let the Lord lead
Thank you for speaking what God has told you! I have believed this for years but never met anyone who agreed or spoke on this and then this video popped up as a notification. This has inspired me to stay in the Word.
Pliz check kevin l a ewing he has taught lenghthly about tithing pt 1, 2 3. i am nt sure up to what hes given many scriptures to surpport his teaching thank you, blessings.
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
I've been tithing ever since I became a christian in my youth. It's only now after 40 years that I've been seeking God re tithing. Abraham tithed before the law and he is the father of faith. Though there is no more a literal temple, we (believers) are the temple of the Holy Spirit. So I thought of giving to a brother in need... until I was reminded of the scripture, "The laborer is worthy of their wages." and Paul asks in 1 Cor 9:11 "If we have sown spiritual things amng you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?" Therefore, I still find it right to tithe to my local church where I get my spiritual feeding or to the one God directs me to give it to.
I appreciate your sharing : )
The money we give goes to your pastor, not GOD. GOD doesn't need our money people do.
@@charlesbryant3515 yes indeed : )
But let's not forget...
"The King will answer and say to them, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did it to one of these brothers of Mine, even the least of them, you did it to Me.' Matt 25:40
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
Absolutely blessed that you made this video today because I was literally just speaking to my pastor YESTERDAY about my confusion between Christ's Law and the Mosaic Law and what exactly are we supposed to do... God speaks through you!
It's absolutely amazing how the Lord manifests Himself to us to get His point across!
Moses Law established the levitical priesthood -Deuteronomy 18:1 and Hebrews 7:28
Tithing was unto the Levites because they "shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel:" -Deuteronomy 18:1 & Numbers 18:26
tithing is NO MORE because the levitical priesthood is NO MORE.
to believe tithing is still required is to DENY THE SON -Hebrews 7:12/Hebrews 7:16-17
I needed to hear this. Thank you! I’ve been tithing out if obligation and fear that I will not be blessed. I cheerfully give to ministries that touch my heart but that came after tithing (which church said is an offering) So my church would separate the offering and tithing as two separate giving that should be done to receive blessing. Wow what an eye opener! God bless you my brother in Christ. I plan on read your book to get more insight on this. 😊❤️🙏
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
In my conviction, you were doing it right; tithe to the local church and then offerings also to the local church or to other ministries that are Trinitarian and Spirit-led that you feel led of the Lord to give to.
God Bless you brother, stay encouraged❣ The deep things of God cries out to the deep, for those that spend a lot of time with God.
I thank God for your Obedience even when your going against the grain with truth to Of not what man understand. Rather that which God says is true to His word. God Bless you
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
Amen @Teonie
Thank you for the word today. This has answered some questions that i had. I bless some homeless people that really need help. This i do because this has been laid on my heart and i really see the need there m
God Bless you Brother Troy, I could not have said it better myself. The Lord is leading me and whatever He says, that's what will happen. He is my Lord and Master, He either talks to me directly to my heart, His Word or men and women of God. Thank you for allowing the Lord to use you to talk to is. I know in my spirit it's the Lord is speaking through you because the pieces of the puzzle are fitting in perfectly and in place. God Bless you, your loving wife and your ministries.
I prayed the prayers with you. Thank you. I believe I received the holy spirit in Jesus name. I've been redeemed by the blood of Jesus. Hallelujah.
This has been lingering in my heart for a while now and I’m so grateful for your video. By biblical scripture, it confirms what I’ve been feeling. Thank you for being a vessel and God bless you and your family 🙏🏽
I have tithed and I have testimonies of God's blessings what I do is I thithe in my church out love so that more newly born again believers can have a home to be discipled and grow in faith I also look at missionary groups so that they can spread the gospel further to Somalia and other countries and also 8 give to the poor with love while I minister to them about jesus..... I do this out of obidience and love...... But u need the discernment of the holy spirit on which soil to sow that seed....
Hmmm, yes give in faith if you desire to. However, it is not a law to obtain righteousness, of to be "right with God"
You can still be obedient by giving, that is, going beyond the 10% 😉
I left mans church a year ago, all they want to do is build big buildings and and seem to have a different goals than our lord Jesus. I now use my tides for spreading the gospel by my family. We now give free bibles and to bless people when God leads us too. We also support certain of Gods true people making a difference out there. All Glory to God he owns everything. I still miss the fellowship but cant continue with churches who are against certain of Gods clear instructions.
Holy Spirit also opened my eyes regarding tithing. I asked Him and He led me in His word. Holy Spirit is *teaching* His people seeking the truth, *the truth!* Halleluyah.😊🕊
Moses Law established the levitical priesthood -Deuteronomy 18:1 and Hebrews 7:28
Tithing was unto the Levites because they "shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel:" -Deuteronomy 18:1 & Numbers 18:26
tithing is NO MORE because the levitical priesthood is NO MORE.
@@lonestarst8 Halleluyah! Amen.
@@AmandaWait
YAH is the name above every name.
the Son was given a name above every name -Philippians 2:9
A name above all names under heaven . Acts 4:12
the son said, "I am come in my Father's name," -John 5:43
the Father's name is YAH -Pslams 68:4
YAH-weh (Father)
YAH-shua (Son)
Hallelu-YAH
Tithing under the Order of Melchizedek, tithe of Honor, tithe of interception. Go to Dr. Francis Myles on the Tithe under the Order of Melchizedek.
Troy, you are an insightful young man. The discernment you have comes from the time you spend with the Holy Spirit, and in the word. This video has helped me, I have recently became a representative payee for a mentally disabled senior lady whom I love and cherish like a sister. Her previous rep payee didn’t tithe off her income, she said the Lord didn’t tell her to, and I wrestle with that. Me, as the person who is accountable to God for how I manage her finances, feel that tithing should be done, no matter what, but this lady doesn’t have the capacity to understand the concept or the principles behind tithing, so she would most likely not agree to do it. So, I am taking my heart to God, and asking Him to show me if it’s out of legality that I feel I must tithe her money, or basically what my heart motive is. It’s always about the heart. So, thank you, you’re helping.... blessings....
God is telling you the tithe is correct, because it is and it lines up with His Word. Blessings follow obedience.
Moses Law established the levitical priesthood -Deuteronomy 18:1 and Hebrews 7:28
Tithing was unto the Levites because they "shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel:" -Deuteronomy 18:1 & Numbers 18:26
tithing is NO MORE because the levitical priesthood is NO MORE.
ALL pastors who take tithes off the people are breaking the 10TH commandment. 1 John 3: 4. The wages of sin is death.
ALL who pay tithes are giving their money to satan's pastors causing them to break the 10TH commandment..
2 Cor. 11: 15.
John 19: 30 The Old covenant Finished. Tithing finished.
So it is written.
Yahweh said:" FEED the poor direct."
NOT feed the bellies of the pastors , Ministers and Priests.
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
Tithing was brought into motion before the Levite law when Abraham tithed to Melchizedek; see Hebrews 7. Jesus is our High Priest now. Proverb 3:9. Honor the Lord with your substance and with the first fruits of all your increase.
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Cain was rejected because he did not obey The Levitical law.
Before the flood they had the levitical law.
Cain's MARK was a literal MARK which people could SEE.
The MARK of the beast will BE SEEN by everybody. Literally, Physically.
The SEAL of YAHweh is :" HOLINESS to Yahweh " on the fore heads of YAHweh's born again GRAFTED SAINTS.
The SEAL of YAHweh is ONLY SEEN by Angels. Rev. 9: 4.
TODAY we keep YAHweh's creation Sabbath from Sundown on the 6TH day of the week Friday to sundown on the 7TH day of the week Saturday. .
WHEN THE creator puts the earth back into it's creation orbit of 360 days then we will KNOW YAHweh's creation Sabbath is sundown Monday to sundown Tuesday on the Gregorian calendar.
The false messiah will COMMAND his followers to obey the sundown Friday to sundown Saturday sabbath of the Gregorian calendar.
YAHweh's calendar in the scripture will be KNOWN for those who LOVE the truth at the time of the end.
The battle will be between the False messiah with his false sabbath and YAHweh's born again Anointed ONES who follow YAHweh's creation Sabbath ONLY known by the MOON and the barley harvest. Leviticus .
The false messiah will be Jesus Christ.
The real Messiah is YAHweh's literal genetic SON YAHshua.
TWO different sons of God and two Different sabbaths.
May THE creator YAHweh give you your hearts desire.
Heb. 12: 14. This scripture will send all the Christians to the lake of fire.
Bless you
Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give,
not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Cor 9:7.
No tithing for today. Tithing was federal income tax for the Jews in Israel. They also had "offerings." We now have offerings. We give as we have determined in our hearts to give.
Amen
yes, amen
No its 10 percent, not what u decide.
@@GerardoMartinez-cj8pq You are calling the following passage a lie...
Each of you should give what you have decided in your heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver." 2 Corinthians 9:7
Tithing was national law commanded of every man in Israel.. believer and unbeliever. We are not a theocracy nation like Israel was. You're not thinking with the Word, but with your emotions.
Troy I have been raised like you about tithes and recently at times especially lately I have been led to help others and share God’s love. Ty for your obedience
The teaching is so good. I agree,the foundation should be correct on which we should base our giving. Thank you so much Troy.
Brilliant explanation Troy thank you for sharing this as I believe Jesus is love and helping your fellow man...not about who can give the most money
God bless you
Wow!!! I've never heard this and I've been in ministry 26 years. I get it!!! Thank you for obedience in a very controversial matter.
It’s true. I’ve heard and read both arguments and tithing is not for us. It’s all about Love giving.
Jacob promised to give a tenth to God for all God would bless him with. That was before the law. That should be our attitude.
Hebrews also says tithing is a witness that He (Jesus) lives. We should give with this heart. Jesus will in return bless us for giving. But I’m tithing regardless
Brother Troy thank you for the word about tithing I was tithing thinking Jesus would bless me more for it wrong. My Mother and I have been blessed financially when we really needed it. This with out a doubt was from our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Thanks for sharing Jesus loves you and so do I.
Another anointed message. So true. Give from a surrendered heart by faith believing. No condemnation in Christ Jesus. Walk in the Holy Spirit. For years when I give, I do it based on 2 Corinthians 9:7.
We had a revelation of this years ago too! Give as led by the Holy Spirit in love and obedience
First of all...I believed you are a Christian and you're hearing from God. Just don't used the word "CONTROVERSIAL," when you know its from God. God don't apologize, His Word is true and correct. Say it because God tells you what to say, and not what to say. Many prophetic or visions and dreams Christians have, and when they go to TH-cam or Facebook and preach, they apologized and say sorry, to the audience as if its their own words. Its not your words, it belongs to God, say AS IS. Do not think, you are dividing people, or that you are better than others, or you are better this or that...say it the way God wants you to share and we listen okay? Thanks...am with you brother and I love you.
Speaking from love my brother, I was thinking the same thing...SAY AS IS because its from God...well spoken bro.
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
@@busman4133 I read all of that article and it was very interesting and informative. It was great actually..I've never read an article on tithing as good as this one.
Very good word.
It only sounds controversial because the very word of God demands tithing but it's the context that matters and some people have chosen some parts of the law to apply and others to reject.
I agree, tithing is an OT teaching and commandment we incorporated into the New Covenant. With tithing we are mixing law and faith. No where in the New Testament letters do you see the command to tithe, if tithing was commanded for the Church don’t you think the NT writers would have put it in the New Covenant. All the scriptures Troy shared are biblical. The New Testament teaches us to give to the church cheerfully, we are to give financially so the church is blessed but the gift is not a set amount as it was in the Old Testament. The tithe is law we are not under the law Jesus spoke on the tithe in NT as it related to the law. I was in bondage to tithing until the Holy Spirit and teachers of the word pointed it out to me. If it makes you feel better to tithe 10% go ahead but it’s not a commandment. We give willfully and cheerfully out of the heart, excellent teaching!
Thank you, Troy, for encouraging not to give to the Lord out of obligation or to earn His love and favor. In our church, we tell people to give only what the Holy Spirit tells them to give, nothing less, nothing more. Many times the Holy Spirit has told me to give 100 percent of what I have received, and I gladly do it out of obedience to His voice. He has never told me to give less than 10 percent!
Dont speak about 10% with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
God has never told you to give less than 10% because that is His will, to give 10% ( tithe) to your local church for the ministries that Jesus has there through His earthly leaders He has placed there.
Thank you brother Troy!
Almost 40 years ago my father (who now rests in the Lord), fasted for a month, and in that time God revealed to him the exact thing that you just explained about tithing. When he told the pastors and ministers about the revelation of tithing they prevented him from speaking about it publicly. But God gave him strength, and continued to speak the truth God revealed to him through His word.
I pray that God continues to bless you and your family with wisdom, guidance, strength, and boldness, to stand in faith and speak truth always.
You are doing a great job in speaking in a respectful loving way.
Moses Law established the levitical priesthood -Deuteronomy 18:1 and Hebrews 7:28
Tithing was unto the Levites because they "shall have no part nor inheritance with Israel:" -Deuteronomy 18:1 & Numbers 18:26
tithing is NO MORE because the levitical priesthood is NO MORE.
@@lonestarst8 Abraham tithed before the law was instituted.
Those who are led by The Spirit of God are the sons (children) of God. Ron 8:14
@@TroyBlack Its my simplest def of a Christian.
yes and the Spirit of the Living God leads me to tithe to my local church and give offerings there also. I only have one small offering that goes elsewhere and that is to a Spirit-led and Spirit-filled church that is preaching/teaching the gospel.
Great teaching Troy i totally agree with u i used to struggle with this, i love to give and am always willing to let go of anything God wants me too no matter what it may be if God shows me the need ill plant the seed giving is a beautiful thing blessed to be a blessing
Amen brother that is a message that the Lord had me bring to a church in San Diego last year... he's been sending me to deliver messages to churches"
this is basically what happened ...now these words that I used for them were the words he gave me... And some are mine but you know the difference
.. my words are not his words and his words are not my words.
"Jesus paid it all...
There's no requirement to tithe .
It's what we should feel like we should do as cheerful giver & a follower and a believer in Christ to further the kingdom and help the church.
It should come from the righteousness, transformation of us as followers from old to new & through the nudging of the Holy Spirit.
I realized myself that I am blessed more when I tithe as Jesus said I would be.
He provides for me so in good conscience I should tithe.
I am so grateful to him. I want him to be happy and pleased with me, I want to be helpful to others and it gives me joy to give and serve... all glory to God!
It comes with the acceptance of Jesus Christ as your savior and the Holy Spirit as your guide, before when we used to take now we want to give.
That's a fruit of the Spirit, the transformation of not feeling like you have to but feeling like you want to through through seeing and witnessing the difference and blessings.
I went to a church in San Diego The Rock Church where the pastor was basically mentally emotionally and spiritually beating people down into tithing.
Saying that they will not be blessed and that they are stealing from the Lord and that they will not see heaven.
THAT IS ABSOLUTELY WRONG, UNTRUE AND WICKED.
The Lord had me deliver his message of grievance to that church."
Thanks. My mind has been on this very matter and this has brought clarity to me. Listen to Holy Spirit...
You were a blessing to me from God. An answered prayer. Thank you.
The law of tithing is talked about in Malachi. We pay 10% of our income to our church. It builds his kingdom on the earth. God has truly blessed us with what we need because of our willingness to give. Great blessings come through obedience and through coming to Christ with full purpose of heart to follow him. I love how well you have studied the word and received the word through the Holy Spirit.
The "law of tithing" in Malachi is now obsolete and had nothing to do with paying money to a religious institution.
Thanks Brother Troy for the confirmation. I have been saying the same also whenever tithing is preached in bible studies. Giving should be Spirit led and since God owns everything we have, we should be always ready to give when led. There is even now a teaching of tithing from gross vs from net. Like you mentioned, if this is supposed to make us fear we are not following the law, then it is not Spirit led, but if the Spirit asks us to give a percent from gross or net, just obey and do it with a joyful heart. God bless brother!
Hey Bro. Your teaching is right on there a shift that is coming to every Government natural and spiritual the old order is on the way out making room for the new blessing
while it's true tithing is religious it's SO IMPORTANT TO GIVE. give money to homeless, give money to the church (one you trust). if you're spending on luxuries for yourself, YOU BETTER BE GIVING TO OTHERS in need. God allows us to treat ourselves with the money in our possession but you also must recognize this money does not technically belong to you
Amen. My tithes (gifts to God) go to those churches who look after the needy all around the world. Try Life Outreach International and others like them. They walk the talk.
Giving and tithing and 2 different things..ponder
@@TroyBlack well, the God of 2020 tells me to tithe to my local church and give offerings besides, either there at thealso at my local church or a ministry that is spirit filled and spirit led.
Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
Thank you very much for sharing this. Bottom line - Give out of love and obedience. Don't give out of fear or greed. God is love. There is no fear in love and perfect love casts out fear.
I am singing Hallelujah! Finally! Someone who not only intimately knows the New Covenant in the Blood of the Lamb, but has the respect and courage to speak it!!! How blessed the Body of Christ is to finally hear the Truth about Tithing and giving in love, joy and obedience! Other scriptures that have helped me over the years is 2 Cor. 8 and 9 (reading in context). You are a dear young man of God and such a blessing to the Glory of God! I’ll stop here. God bless you Troy as you spread the simple and True Gospel of the Kingdom of God in Christ Jesus. Be encouraged! ❣✝🌈🕊🔥
Thank you for this video.I have struggled in this area a bit for a while. Was confused with having to give your 10 percent otherwise you would be cursed vs God loving a cheerful giver. It really is all about our heart when it comes to giving
I find your testimony very interesting. The Holy Spirit has dealt with me the same way. He wants us to give from the love in our hearts and not out of compulsion. I reeeally hear the Holy Spirit in this.
The Lord wants us to give what he said in his word Regardless of what anyone says.
@@murfkuhls3494yes amen scripture?
Thank you so much for delivering this message of true love of Jesus Christ. I believe you 100%. You said it so well. I have always believed this!Thank God for deliverance and freedom to love and serve Him for who He is and not out of fear.
I was worried until you got to the middle when you started talking about giving out of obedience. I was wondering if I heard God wrong. When I first got saved, I read scriptures that also convinced me that I was no longer obligated to tithe. But then the Holy Spirit told me to. I disregarded it. I felt a “hold back” from God and asked what was up. He said that I told you to tithe, so I started doing it, although with the wrong attitude and motives which He has since changed. Now and then He asks me to give specific amounts over that either to the church or specific people. He’s really blessed me letting me see other people He’s blessing through me. Once I praying before work about a financial situation of someone and God said that I couldn’t just pray for him if I had the ability to help. So when I got to work, I asked him how much he needed. I wrote him a check for part of it then went on break and God said, no, give him the full amount he said he needed. I went back in and did and the guy cried and told me his story about His obedience to sacrificially give what God told him to give and how God uses me to restore all that and more, meeting his need. God’s also been delivering me from greed and teaching me that it really is better to give than receive.
I want to ask you,does God "ask"you to tithe contary to his word?I believe you have a willingness to be obedient to his will but if a voice either of man or spirit tells you to do something contary to Gods word (since our brother lays out the scriptures clearly on this)you reject it.I was once unquestioning and then learned that the truth of Gods word,(the simple believe everything but the wise man considers well his steps.)proverbs.It is wisdom in Gods eyes to question what is said.Now let me warn you of those who tithe according to moses law.This sin they committed when full grown will bring forth death in their lives.They leave the grace of God to follow moses law.If you follow one part you have to follow all.All of the book of Galations talks about this.This voice told you to tithe yet not once in the new covenant,not once are christians taught to tithe.You may say but people are blessed!yes they receive help but not according to Gods way which isn't tithing.
Thank you for your obedience. I received revelation years ago about "tithing" for the new testament church, and how it was in error. So many of the Lord's people tithe out of generational habits, habits of error I like to say: the church is so divided on many areas of doctrines that it's sad to watch. True the division is sound doctrine according to the bible, but what's missing is the RIGHTLY DIVIDING the word of truth. God bless you my brother.
Thanks for sharing, I agree completely with what you are saying here. I have been looking at the way organisations twist and manipulate scripture to suit their purposes, rather than teaching people in an accurate way.
I believe in tithing, I put tithe aside before spending, when we first move to our new house we don't have a car, a friend my husband just met at work gift a car for my husband, and a Sauna coast Five thousand for myself, we were all shocked even our families and friends, didn't believe it, but we know it was GOD who watches over us, Hallelujah🙌🙌
This is so good. I don't believe it's a sin not to give, but God's word says that you should give, and give *happily out of love* (2 Corinthians 9:7) and *obligation* to Him. If it's done out of fear, the expectancy of blessings, and/or for bragging rights, that doesn't sound right to me. In that case, I think it's better not to give at all and then seek God about your intentions for giving. In Matthew 6:1-4, Jesus Christ also states that you shouldn't brag about giving, but just keep it between you and God. God bless everyone who's reading this in Jesus' name and remember: Maintain your contact with God. Always. It's vital.
AMEN BROTHER! God LOVES
A CHEERFUL GIVER!
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Dont speak about tithes with such a poor knowledge, read this first before you speak :
www.tithing-russkelly.com/
This is very good. You just confirmed everything I was trying to figure out even more clearer. I heard other teach about this but this is fresh teaching with new scriptures. Wow. Thanks you lord. In these last days , everything is coming to light.
I quit tithing and started giving to the poor. I believe God honors it.
I thank God that you are a chosen vessel to speak the truth of the word, i prayed to God to show me on thithing and this video is truly a blessing .Thank you and God blessings and favour be upon you.