Randy Rhoads Chibson Les Paul OH MY Part 2
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Randy Rhoads Chibson Les Paul OH MY Part 2
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I ordered one of these. Made a couple of ‘upgrades’
1) Ripped out all the electronics replaced them with some vintage Gibson stuff.
2) Replaced the tuners with some nice Kluson reissues.
3) Grabbed my pry bar and got rid of that crappy tailpiece and bridge.
4) Didn’t like the feel of the shitty frets, so I took those off to prepare for some nice SS ones.
5) Since I had the frets off, I decided to replace the fretboard with some nice ebony instead.
6) Well, once I got the fretboard off, looked like the neck could use some work, so I heated up the joint, took it off and chucked it. Went with a Warmoth replacement.
7) With the neck off, it looked like the body could use a little work too. So, I looked through my parts and found an old ‘69 body looking for a new home.
I’ll be the first to admit that I thought those Chisbon’s were a total waste of money, but with a few upgrades and a couple extra bucks, I tell ya, mine looks and plays like a totally different guitar!!
I can’t wait to order another one!! \m/, ,\m/
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Nice.
lol that made me laugh
Quantum .... I saw your earlier comment. I was preparing for an “r/whooooosh” reply, but I’m glad you finally got the joke. :)
Dave should have certification stickers or tags that can be put on the guitar that say “De-gooched as of **/**/**** date”.
"Finished in Toronto, Canada," haha! I'd buy a guitar with *THAT* sticker!
If Dave couldn't have gotten that truss rod working it would also have been "Finished" in Toronto.
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@@guitarstrunged Nice conditional. Crap joke.
Dave is the best setup guy on our rock!! He can make any guitar like butter. Even a Gibson and that's hard to do.. Thanks Dave..
I love watching Dave's encounters with guitars he doesn't like!! lmfao!!
My Strat is still my #1 go-to just because it's so ridiculously simple & easy to "fix & setup" - but I've played the paint right off it and the frets look like they're all waving bye-bye, (I vibrato a lot without the bar so my frets have wider areas of wear instead of just a 'groove' under each string) - and even with proper relief, I still need my strings around 5/64~6/64 to avoid buzzing. -shrug-
I'm not gonna bother taking my guitar to StewCrap or GuitardedCenter. I'll always look for someone like Dave - someone who actually cares about doing the job you're paying them to do.
Cheers to you Dave!
Hot Dog wood... That made my day man.
Excelent videos with this guitar... thanks!!!
Great work as always Dave. I remember buying a fretboard from the Middle Kingdom a few years back (cost $10) and instead of shell used for the inlays they had routed deep pockets, put shiny paper in the bottom and then filled the pockets with clear epoxy. The whole thing was rough sanded so it wasn't obvious until I started polishing the board. I guess I got what I paid for. Nowadays some builders have improved but it's still a lottery.
I wish someone like you lived in my neighborhood!
Looks like the Chibson factory immitate Gibson's QA as well.
Even with the added cost, 10x better than an Epiphone at less than half the price.
Dave just love your videos, your humour and honesty. 😆👍
Looks like this guitar repair was worth more then the chibson itself.
A really fine job.
It's great you mentioned in the end that it took a substantial tool collection to fix these issues. Getting a playable guitar these days is expensive...
Well that hole wasn't anywhere near as scary as the hole at the other end.
An unknown demon laid to rest I'll sleep better tonight.
Thanks Dave!
Some of us DO care...thx for the (.004), info.
A thankful sub'er
0.10mm (0.1016mm...no that important)
at the 10:30 mark I thought that string was gonna poke into Dave's wrist and start spewing blood everywhere
"Chibson kills man on camera found footage"
When you’re scrolling by it looks like you are going to teach a joint rolling class.
Bet we’ll see this again in a few months having new tuners put on it.
Can't play an open E without a copyright lawyer sparking you up....but you can buy a total ripoff Les Paul and rub a dub dub it to life without legal comment...Great video as always...
It would all be no big deal if Epiphone offered a nice open book headstock for more of their models. They didn't have a problem using the correct headstock for Vs and Explorers.
the cut corners headstock is because they DO cut corners
I just ordered one waiting for it to come in but watching this video gives me hope on easy fixes 😁
Thanks Dave for speaking the truth, and sharing
I just saw an ad before this episode for a capo that looks rather nice for different fb radii.
Also, that flaccid horn...
Good job. Not sure why anyone would want that color but love these videos.
Very cool intro.
Your videos are fantastic, !!!
Dave, That was JUST what the Dr. ordered, sweet.
I guess the chinese never realized that Randy's custom was original cream color, then aged
and yellowed . They just painted the whole damn thing yellow from the start..
I had one when it was new. A beautiful 20th Anniversary nice and no yellow.
One heck of an intro you got yourself there Dave :)
Basically a regular Gibson for a more realistic price..
Stop smoking that stuff...did you just hear yourself! Nothing Gibson about it....more like a VERY cheap epiphone.
I've had a couple of chibsons and the biggest headache is trying to sell them after you get sick of looking at them for 6 months
Just Subscribed, Dave you know your stuff. Cheers James.
To each his own, I guess. It sure took a lot of work to make the guitar playable. This is what most people don't understand about cost vs. value. The cheaper the guitar (or any other product) retail price means that steps had to be skipped in production in order to bring down the cost. This is true for ANYTHING. When you pay the higher price, the finish work is already done for you. The lower cost items require you to do the finish work that wasn't done at the factory. When you add in YOUR time and effort, ask yourself if you really saved anything at the end of the day.
Now consider the second hand market. There are tons of good deals out there where you can score big and get a quality item for less than the cost of a knock-off. I just bought a nearly brand new Ibanez 5 string bass with active pick-ups from Offer-Up for the grand sum of $30. I changed the strings ($30) and spent about an hour setting it up (say another $30), and there is NOTHING wrong with the guitar at all, it's perfect. So I've got less than $100 in time and labor in a brand name 5 string. I couldn't get a knock-off that cheap.
Hey red. I’m generally 100% behind you except Gibson taught me otherwise. Not just me, but myriad members of the Les Paul forum who would receive their guitars with a HORRIFIC Plek job (more like no Plek job!), guitars that weren’t bugged out… I received my Historic Les Paul with a crack running up the back of the neck (under the finish). Times are changing. In some cases (rarely) you don’t get what you pay for, YMMV.
Wow, the first canadian ever who I have found to have an attitude. Kudos, I think.
I’m digging that intro music Dave!
You got to keep in mind these guitars are being compared to guitars that cost over $2,000 they are literally ten times cheaper than what they imitate. And doing a little bit of fret leveling intones pickup adjustment and customization of the nut it's pretty standard if you want any guitar to play to its fullest ability other than actual custom shop Guitar it will cost you more than the $2,000...
I have a Groovebar and it really is great. Thanks Dave for the superb content. Sub'd.
@moyle Eppelstun Here's a UK supplier, with info about the product: tonetechluthiersupplies.co.uk/hosco-groobar-set-of-4-for-guitar.html
@moyle Eppelstun I got mine in the uk on Ebay.
Is that gonna be your title for your book? The screwdriver and a spoon
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"Hot dog wood!!!" LOL
Nice, Great job with that mess bro!!
Where aboot you in Toronto?.
Yet again Dave proves that you can polish a turd. Nice save.
Be nice if he could do it without bitching like a fucking cat lady
Not really.
That must have been sitting in a store window for years haha - that's more yellow than I've ever seen. I think the guy was probably a smoker too. Sun and smoke, that'll do it.
ianA Did you watch part 1? It is a Chibson. That is the the actual colour they sprayed it!
@@steen8156 woooshh
when a guitar lives in a smoker's house, it gets a "tobacco" finish
This is like Italian Craftsman working on a Stradivarius. Haha. I'm a drummer but I do find this interesting.
Ha so Wandy Woades.
Who are you, Baba Wawa?
There's a huge American market for a replica of Randy Rhoads' aged white LP Custom so the Chinese make a yellow Chibson LP Custom! It's fucking YELLOW!
it probably cost more to level the frets and do all the other work than the guy paid for this monstrosity.
Eh...it doesn't take a rocket scientist to level frets. It's actually pretty easy if you have patience. I recently did to my 15 year old Ibanez rg370. It had literal grooves and flat frets from playing so much. I actually used TH-cam as a reference for how to make the tools. Check out gunsandguitars channel. Out of the whole process I would recommend a good crowning file but it absolutely can be done yourself for less than 50$.
Josiah Lee the problems that these guitars face goes way beyond leveling frets. These guitars are playable in fits and starts and always require some modifying as the wood settles and kinks and bends. Buying a copy like this is an ongoing battle. Don’t kid yourself
@Arthur H haha...your reading comprehension sucks. I never recommended buying a knockoff or that it wasnt work. But that's all it is, work. I was stating that you definitely can do a fret leveling job for less than 50$. Your time doing the work is most of the job. Not special tools. Plus a guitar like this is actually the perfect candidate to learn on if it's you got it cheap. Brand it a fake and go to town learning how to level and dress frets, change tuners, cut a new nut etc. Because you don't have to worry about messing it up any worse really. If you can't work on your own gear then that either makes you ignorant or incompetent...maybe both.
@@ahf5471 They are not all the same. The earliest ones are almost always total junk. However, you can find a good maker or two, and the quality improves on some of them after they get returns or cancelled payments. However, it is very much a buyer beware situation, and the odds are definitely not in the buyer's favor. There are some videos of some decent Chibsons on youtube, though, if you look.
The paper lives!
Made in China, finished in Toronto Canada. Love it!
Almost like real Gibsons -made in China, finished in USA ha ha ha.Whats the difference, but the price ?
Creepy truss rod? It was so deep and dark down there it was haunted!
great save Dave. i hope the owner plays the crap out of it.
That's all he can do with it, it's not the real deal
Smack cracks the fretboard
Alcohol can crack wood. Nice setup.
Usually, polishing a turd won't make it better. In the "talented" hands of Dave, however, we see that it is possible. LOL Great video as always Dave, thanks.
Most guitars need final finishing to get the guitar to playing to perfection. Even a cheap guitar and expensive guitars.
Screwdriver and a Spoon. hahaha cracks me up. How else would you get a light weight Les Paw.
Make mine a burny!
What brand of guitar are you consistently surprised or amazed (in a good way) at the quality or finish work for the money.
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He's mentioned this before....PRS. I agree, even their SE series are extremely well done.
@@josephbrashears8558 thanks!
Godin actually, even though I don't own one. For an instrument that's domestically made it's really a great value.
Music Man as well.
I have a Chibson Les Paul Stardaard only put a Dimarzio Super Distortion on it and it sound and plays awesome
Dave have you thought about putting a few of your familiar phrases on a T-shirt ?
I'd love some hat with print for the winter.
"what could go wrong???"
Red paint? Use radium instead
you should have taken a paint sample from the control cavity and had it tested for lead paint
Nice job, but still the wrong TV yellow :)
ENJOYED WATCH YOU FIX THIS # GUITAR !!...SUBSCRIBED GREAT JOB ...DAVE .....REGARDS CAEN 😎
Hey Dave any recommendations on good luthier on the US side of the border in the New York area? Or are you even willing to have a guitar mailed to you to be worked on?
the body oon that les paul looks bigger than normal was it??
Calling Dave from Montreal, Come in Dave. You are the Maestro!
Great vid as always - Question.. Was that a Hosco GrooBar (set of 4) - If so, any chance of putting together a review and a "How to"?- They look the ducks guts for setting slot depth.
When did Randy have a TV Yellow LP? I remember a White LP and a bunch of Jacksons....but Yellow?
Its meant to be aged white XD I guess.
Excellent crapsmanshi+
It's not really crap. Just needs the final setup and leveling n you got a very playable guitar at a discount...though yes, still not Gibson quality, such as the weight, which like you said is light as a feather. I have weighed at 8# 2oz whereas a real Gibson would weight almost 10# (9.75#)!!!
What did you want to mention about the nut and the weird angle on the headstock ?
Interesting that it actually has the norlin era volute
The Randy rhoads Les Paul is off-white not piss yellow! That's closer to TV yellow
Looks like it was dipped in pure nicotine
What do you think of the fretwire, Dave? Normal quality or very soft to make fretwork in the factory easier and save time?
A screwdriver and a spoon! Lol! What about a bitter knife instead of a screwdriver? And a Fork? Lmao!!!
Not an aged ivory finish, but KRAFT DINNER orange,not too shabby.....
what were you saying about the graphite nut to the string angle
Hope you put the pickguard back on before you ship it back. :)
I honestly don't know why people buy Chibson Les Pauls - unless they're trying to fool people. Les Paul type guitars by Harley Benton, Epiphone, ESP, PRS, and many more, are excellent! They're near the same price or a little bit more costly than a Chibson and have much better quality. They're also a fraction of the inflated price that Gibson charges. I've played both copies and actual Les Pauls in my 40 years of playing. Rarely is there a huge difference between a Gibson and a well-set-up copy.
Yeah, I heard a harley benton with the P-90s in it...it sounded great and the guy said it played really well...Gibson is both overpriced and over-rated...
I have a Harley Benton SC-450plus Les Paul and it plays/sounds awesome ! Heck, a few months ago, I bought THE cheapest Epiphone Les Paul you could buy brand new ($150). It's a Les Paul Special II 'Vintage Edition'. The tuners were a bit crappy. So, I replaced them. I also swapped the pickups out with some Zebra humbuckers I got on Ebay for $14. The thing sounds amazing now and is SO light!
Sad, delusional people buy Chibsons so they can stand in front of full length mirrors and pretend they are their "rock gods"...
Just leave them at home and don't run the risk of public humiliation.
Hope your test amp is a lovely Traynor Dave :D
This one, as opposed to the Gibson Traditional DID come w/the poker chip already installed though 😉 😁
Way to go, Dave !!! Enjoyed the fix and comments. “ Don’t buy chinese crap” , I say.
none more yellow
And you could've avoided all of this crap just by buying an Epiphone...
Daniel Doran Great explanation, Daniel. I did know this but I always wondered why the hardware was different and obviously inferior. I've never bought a Chibson but I've played a few. My honest opinion is, they are spot on regarding dimensions, finish etc.
But the pickups and wiring harness are where things start to go wrong. I have an Epiphone LP custom and a Gibson SG Standard. I'm obviously happy with both but there will always be the temptation to throw some cash at a Chibson to see what it's like. Lol
@Daniel Doran Nonsense. Look at the wood inside the cavity. This was not made in the Epi factory, and this is garbage quality. Quit spreading myths, you don't know what you are talking about. My guess is you've never stepped foot in Asia, let alone China. This is a Gibson counterfeit made with inferior materials, with inferior craftsmanship and a severe lack of luthier knowledge. This guitar in this video will never, ever be as good as a $400 Epi let alone an $800 one.
@Daniel Doran Utter BS. If you would've watched the video, you'd see that this banana-colored piece of hot-dog wood is still garbage even after Dave's excellent setup.
@Daniel Doran "Not nearly as good as the one in the video" - LOL!
@Daniel Doran Nothing. It's now a flawless guitar.
Where do I get a groove bar?
i did, thanks. ".004"
Dave for president, Trudeau out
I'll be in my basement room, with a screwdriver and a spoon. And a Chibson axe to take my pain away.
Light as a feather? ...I'd bet that it's Basswood.
What is that nut height gauge called?
Love it ! Great job on a questionable guitar!
groopbar???how do u spell ??l that i want to by one where can i get one dave Thank you??
All this diddling with the nut slots can be eliminated by just doing what most european makers do and include a zero fret when you slot the finger board to start with. If you have that then when you level the frets you level the zero fret with the rest of them. Then you only have to make sure that the slots are deep enough. In this situation it is almost impossible to commit the cardinal sin of cutting the slot to deep.
Dave can I get a link for the groove bar? I too use Stewmac's device and very much dislike it. Thank you
@@DavesWorldofFunStuff Thanks.
I will stick with my Korean epiphony les paul custom
Sounds like you had a few pops
How to glue a nut in place: ancient Chinese secret.
You’re bench looks like my brother’s!