Koi Food Comparison | Price Per Kilo
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ก.ค. 2022
- Ricky digs into the price per kilo of various Koi food brands and reveals the true cost of what you are feeding your fish!
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I was using aqua source last year and through the winter. Few months ago switched to saki and the difference has really blown me away. I really didn't believe the difference would be as drastic as it has been.
There’s a reason why I shout about it. Truly one of the best koi products ever made.
Great video Ricky I've recently switched to Saki on your recommendation to early to see any difference yet amazes me how little the price difference is 👍
Very glad to hear it.
Totally agree, when I decided to change over to saki on your advice and result, I too was thinking about the cost and the truth is there barely nothing in it. No brainer really. Cheers Ricky 👍
And I guess you’ll have noticed a big difference since switching?
@@KoiWholesale massive difference tbf👍
Definitely an eye opener on price. Saki all the way for me, I've seen the benefits in my fish and water
Glad to hear it!
👍👍Great video, i had allways used coppens food but after trying saki hikari i am not going back
I was using coppens until I changed back to Saki Hikari. There are a lot of good foods out there but this stuff fits into its own category.
Nice video Rucky very informative.
Thanks.
Agree 100%, and once you go up to the 15kg bags of saki balance,
the price difference becomes even more bizzare...£10.66 per kg for 15kgs delivered to your door.
If thats too much at once, group buy with your mates.
Nice idea and a great way to take advantage of getting the lower kg price.
It's more expensive having mates, Than a 15 kg bag of saki .
I use JPD Akafuji and Saki Hikari, both are awesome..
Very good.
Iv used saki balance for a year now water has alwats been amazing even over feeding by the bucket still water levels stayed great waste levels great , soon as i won some other high priced food i popped in feeded i had ammonia hits nitrite hits , , you cant knock saki balance at all its amazing stuff
If it gets warm enough you need to try the growth. See how they put weight on then.
Couldn’t agree more Ricky, was having issues with beni not being where I wanted it to be on the isa showa and shinoda hi utsuri I am growing on. I’ve always been a sceptic but bit the bullet and moved to growth and colour. No shit 3 weeks in and the deep Hiban that is now visibly moving through the Hi plates of all of the fish is incredible to watch and I’d now spend the money regardless! A few extra bob compared to the lost money and heartbreak of a seasons fish turning to trash is a no brainer to me
Many will notice I don’t recommend very much and there is a reason why I shout about Saki Hikari so much. I honestly believe it’s one of the best koi products ever made.
I’m Saki Hikari all the way (50% growth 50% colour)👍😊. I was using JPD Shogun and was pleased with that until I tried Saki Hikari and saw some real result in terms of size and colour👍😊
I would have predicted that to be the outcome. I’m happy you’re a convert!
I use Saki
Excellent food
Had to use Hikari friend recently due to a supply issue
Agreed. It can sell out at some dealerships due to the high demand.
Curiously I have been comparing koi foods In price and quantity
I noticed some koi food are a lot lighter for the volume
5 liter tub vs that's weights 1.5 kilos
Vs. 1 kilo in a 2 liter tub
Which do you think matters?
Are the heavier ones only have more moisture? Making then heavier
I did this price comparison a couple of weeks ago after seeing one of your videos, and I agree with you for a few quid more you can have the best of the best . It is a no-brainer when you do the math.
No brainier!!!!
Hi Ricky, great informative video again, what’s your thoughts on “JPD shogun” all season as a food? Was recommended off a friend who has a koi maintenance man?!?, but not heard much about it? Been feeding for 6 months now and everything seems good in the way of colour and growth, but wandering if I’d get more out of the SakiHikari?
Hi James
I can assure you that you will see a big difference! Without having to say anything about another food Saki Hikari is the best there is.
Give it a try and let me know how you get on.
@@KoiWholesale excellent yeah will definitely give it a try 👍🏻,
Been listening to the podcasts aswell, absolutely brilliant only really quite new to the koi world, Ive worked with fish all my life (fishmonger) and fish for carp in my spare time! Your podcasts and videos are really good for honest help and advice 👍🏻
Been using Saki for 2 years I haven't got high end Koi but the quality in skin and color I would put against anyone's koi and near no waste and will never go backwards with food thi is a great example of how cheap Saki is just a no brainer 🙏
Well put and glad you are seeing the results. Saki Hikari is in a league of its own.
I was feeding evolution aqua premier and switched to saki balance and my koi are doing better on it.
Glad to hear it.
Wouldn’t buy any other brand now and that’s after converting from a very good JPD Shogun and Shori mix 👍🏼
There hasn’t really been anything to match it since the day it was created.
Do you have any experience with Hi silk sweet potatoe or or Mr Kodama Color up foods? (And do you have an opinion on Manda Fu?) Thank you for all of your efforts to put out good content. I enjoy watching your videos. And appreciate the genuine affection it seems you have for the koi. It is also evident that you love what you do.
I do love it and I'm glad you enjoy the videos. I used Hi Silk many years ago but not the sweet potato one. I stand by Saki Hikari and think it will be a very long time before anybody makes anything better.
@@KoiWholesale I did buy some saki hikari previously but the medium pellets are too small for my fish. But I just buy some again to try in large pellets
Saki all the way
Floating and sinking balance and growth sinking 👍🏼
Worth every penny seeing the kois happy faces 😃
But it’s not expensive, that’s the point of this video.
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Expensive for many people When you buy 15kg bags..that’s what I meant 👍🏼
Per kg yeah it’s not expensive
@@thepeoplespond yes I see what you mean. My grandfather never fed his goldfish as they ate natural from the weed and pond Lilly’s that his pond contained.
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I know people who don’t feed their koi in winter and let them eat what’s in the pond..so it works 👍🏼
I use the sinking saki balance and you can only get 20kg bags..so it adds up lol
Very glad to hear it.
Looking to put my pond on better food, Would you use Balanced all year round or move over to multi season for winter, or even suggest multi season all year round for a unheated uk pond
You would be safe using balance down to 12c as feeding levels would be really low. Below that you would really want to go to multi season. I would recommend multi all year round.
I’m pretty new to this game but With greatest respect what about takisumi or jpd? Surely that would be a better comparison?? . Maybe someone could explain. ??
The point of the video was the highlight the method of checking price per kg to compare any food. I simply used what was in front of me at the time for this comparison. It was also the point out that the difference in cost to Saki Hikari which is widely regarded as the best food in the world is actually much smaller than perceived.
Hi Ricky, very useful information as usual. I use a 50-50 mixture of saki hikari growth & color food. Here we don't get the 'balance' variety. Shall I get on with it? or what would be the ideal mixture of growth & color food for a good output?
Replied on a previous video comment.
Thanks a lot Ricky 👍
Erm….. I’m sold! That’s my next food top up conundrum sorted!
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Cost is obviously important, but even more important when choosing a koi food are the ingredients and using it before the use by date.
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Thought provoking video, you have mentioned this in a few of your other videos. I’ve just started mixing saki balance into my mix for the season and the fish are looking so much better, within a few weeks. I’m that pleased with it, I’ve just brought another 2kg to add to the mix, making up nearly 50% saki now.
Great stuff.
another quick question please.....have you used FD koi food in its varies forms? if so what are your thoughts.
Yes I have, I found it quite difficult to manage the water when feeding at high levels.
@@KoiWholesale ok thankyou..david
Have you used the red or white saki bags
Used Saki white to condition my Okawa Shiro last year. I was pretty blown away with that it did in a short space of time.
I never got round to using my deep red but will this year.
I'm ordering Saki-Hikari today but am I OK with the balance or would I be better with the growth 🤔? I've got around 16 koi some medioca to Danichi , 20cm to 55cm .
It should certainly be warm enough for some growth at the minute. Make the most of the temperatures and get some down them.
thanks for the quick reply keep up the good work love the chanel
Good Work Ricky. And you would have to feed them twice as much, when feeding CRAP!
That’s a whole other point entirely and also when the true value would be shown.
That's really interesting ay, definitely seems to make sense paying a few extra quid for the best food ay. Currently using the medikoi food, would you say it's worth jumping to saki hikari when this runs out?
Cheers
Aaron
Absolutely 100%
@@KoiWholesale ideal cheers bud
Wow
Agreed!
Even further to this is £160 for Saki balance 15kg. £10.66 per kilo. Worth it all the way. Nearly on my second sack this year and if your gonna buy one less koi a year and this food instead it’s a win win.
Great way to put it and I totally agree with you.
@@KoiWholesale what happened to koi talk episode 6/7? Just went to re watch them. 😩
Hello Ricky what would be your 2nd & 3rd choice koi after Saki Hikari , thanks Wayne .
I think Takazumi is a good food and Evolution Aqua Growth is also good.
Thanks for getting back to me Ricky, been trying Takazumi friend for the last two weeks and found that fish produce quite a lot of waste and it floats on the top of the pond for quite some time before sinking. All so can I ask you about one of your previous videos with the Dutch fish doctor ( koi talk about flukes) he mentioned that you can do a full dose of treatment day 1 followed by day 2&3 half dose , can you do this with F-M-G and Acriflavin , thanks Wayne.
@@wayneyard4300 have you tried Saki yet?
I wouldn’t recommend that with other treatments. The other advice around preparation is essential.
@@KoiWholesale ok thanks just on fluke treatment, saki food I will try saki balance see what it’s like for waste and see if I can see a difference in the koi ie happy healthy stronger fish well that’s what we all want . It’s just the cost of it Ricky I like many people in the hobby are just your normal joe bloggs working class and now with the cost of living crisis’ biting hard . What’s it like for you at the moment are the koi selling well at all price brackets
Definitely buying in bulk would be a cost savings right off the bat.
Always.
Whats your thoughts on takazumi mix as a food…?
Of Takazumi in general I think it’s a good food. I don’t like any premixed foods in general however. I prefer to mix according to my requirements.
@@KoiWholesale thank you for the reply 🙂as a beginner in the hobby its appreciated videos like this to learn.
Cheers
Absolutely no argument from me, my Koi only eat what I put in the pond, why would I feed inferior food to them, I would never see the gains that I have this year, its about welfare for me not a price argument, another great upload Ricky keep them coming👍
Glad to hear it’s having a positive effect Kev. No point buying fish like the Dainichi Showa and not investing in its future.
If you purchase in the 15kg sacks the price comes down a lot, £11-12 a kilo, and most ponds should get through that in a season no problem.
That’s why price per kg is the only way to look at it.
To Ricky from Ricki 🤣
I've asked others. What would you feed in the UK through the seasons? I need more food and been asking around the best. I have 2no large Chags, 1 large Ogon, and small Showa, Ogon and Karawi.
Hi Ricki 😂. Saki Hikari all the way if you can push to it. Unheated in summer probably balance and winter multi season.
@@KoiWholesale Thank you!
My opinion here is that this price difference really comes into play more in the bulk bags of some foods in particular. You can’t really compare a 250g food to a 2kg food on price per kilo. Even if Ricky doesn’t particularly rate aqua source food, most who use it do think it is a decent food and a 10kg bag is less than £80 for the growth when saki growth is the same or more for the 5kg bag. This is the difference to me and it isn’t really affordable for most to pay the same for half of the food, regardless of the potential outcome. Just my thoughts
The whole point of the exercise was to highlight prices per kilo and bring consumer awareness to what they are actually paying. In your comment you compare the costs of different size bags which is exactly what I’m advising not to do as it’s never a fair comparison.
I understand what you’re doing and I appreciate that there is a big market in the smaller packs where a comparison is valid, at the same time though my point here was what you get for the same money not particularly focusing on the size of bag. In my example though price per kilo is £8 for the AS and £16 for SH if comparing the growth foods. Would you say that to the average person who doesn’t have show koi in their pond that it’s worth paying 100% more for saki hikari food?
I can make a Hikari for at least 8 times less money. And that is without buying ingredients by the ton.
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Good honest video but comparing Saki with a £5 tub of goldfish food is a bit cheeky. For example, no koi keeper would buy the £5 tub. £5 tub is clearly marketed to those with very small ponds and a few goldfish and last them ages, so never in the market for caning £160 on 15kg of Saki. If Nijikawa was available in the UK it would compete and maybe overtake Saki. I'd like to know also what is the mark up of these feeds as they're with out doubt having koi keepers pants down. Open to being proven wrong on that.
I’d have a guess at 30% which is the usual mark up on food products.
There are koi keepers of all levels and I know from first hand experience how many people with koi would start out buying these small tubs of food. The whole point of the video is just to raise awareness of a different way of looking at how food is priced in order to get the best value.
I’ve never used nijikawa but it would have to some something truly special to even match Saki Hikari.
@@KoiWholesale I have used Nijikawa and waste is incredibly low, grain/sand like waste, not used Saki. I agree like you said it depends what your view is and goals. And my old adage is its all a progression, hardly anyone goes straight in to the big koi pond, filtration and food etc unless you're what I would call got money, all the gear and no idea lol. Cheers
It would be nice to see some where that sells saki in smaller bags like 1kilo bags
I have spoken to the company about this as they are available in Europe.
@@KoiWholesale awaiting for a reply
Do try Cuttlebrook Koi Farm food.
Unless it now comes from a different place I do believe I have used it before.
Sorry, but you don't feed Saki Hikari to non show quality Koi that the majority of people have.
It's like putting the most expensive engine oil in a run a round car, not worth it as it's not going to change anything in it's performance.
I feed mine top middle level food, it's very good stuff, has all the right ingredients.
They like it, grow well and remain healthy, which is most important.
I completely disagree with that, it's not about showing it's about giving your koi the best diet and that's exactly what Saki Hikari is. The health benefits alone make it worth it for the price difference.
what a load of bollocks what a rip off i pay about 1 pound a kilo and my fish are healthy and massive
Interesting, I’d love to know more about this food that is £1 per kilo.
Takazumi is the best not saki hikari.
Not even close!
@@KoiWholesale really is it that better? Then im gonna try it!
I’m pretty new to this game but With greatest respect what about takisumi or jpd? Surely that would be a better comparison?? . Maybe someone could explain. ??
I think you commented twice so I’ve respond to the other one.