nice one, cheers. I'm doing similar, but with a Macbook and Bitwig these days. So lovely to be able to keep the creative flow by doing the fiddly stuff in the digital domain
amazing tutorial.Big thanks.This convince me to buy es-9 because i have few modules and can;t afford to buy expensive granular ones for example. Thanks again.
Fantastic nice to see your workflow. I have nearly identical workflow, except I use oxi sequencer, and I sync it from the AUM iPad so I get the same start stop as iPad sequencers. I use covariant a lot to get the cv and gates out from the es-9. And if I want the same latency on the iPad sounds, I put it out of the es9 and to an input again, MIDI and the output has almost identical latency. Cheers Bobb.
That's interesting about adding the latency, I was doing something similar to very tightly sync my hardware fx sends and returns, but it turned out to just add too much latency when I wanted to use a keyboard live over the top.
@@SoundsMick I only do it so the iPad drums or synths/ clocks gets the same latency as my es-9 inputs, everything else goes through the inputs one time anyhow, where the most latency is. It’s nearly impossible to get rid of latency, the trick feels like is to get the same latency on everything. Just my humble theory, it never worked for me to try some sort of compensation stuff.
Very interesting , thank you for this video but what is the advantage of using this app and not Logic Pro on iPad ( like a sound source and sequencer )
Logic Pro is designed for linear clip editing and layering where AUM is essentially just a super mixer / recorder with insert FX. Depends how you want to make music, I tend to record performances of an ensemble of instruments vs recording parts one at a time and copy / pasting audio or midi clips. For my purposes the interface of AUM is easier to use / read and has more focus.
@@SoundsMick thank you , actually i m planning to buy a eurorack but i just need to use it as an effect processor ( i use Live Loops on Logic Pro )( i want to use Logic Pro as my sound source and my sequencer ) so just want to know if it is possible to do that with Logic Pro and expert sleepers es9 and if it is possible to record it live on Logic Pro
Super cool! I was looking for a nice multi-track recorder App for iPad anyway; there's a Motu Ultralite in my live case and watching this video, I now want to use the mixer and AU too : ) for live mastering... Is it stable enough to go on stage with the master output depending on the app working perfectly? are there any latency issues?
I think it’s pretty stable within AUM, if you run non-auv3 apps that need to be a full screen app, like Borderlands or Patterning, when you switch apps that can sometimes glitch out.
@@WuddupDok Yeah good idea, I've been adding it to my more recent videos since the album came out, but prob good to go back through others and add it there too :)
I've not touched any settings on it as far as I can recall. Latency is great, there is round trip latency if you send something out of the output to say, a filter in your system and then back in again - but that's just like, physics I think there's no way to avoid it. I run everything on a very low buffer and normal use latency is very tight.
Thanks for this, it's really helping me get started with the es-9. Once you had this all set up, how do you decide which part of the system to expand? There are so many great iOS synths and stuff like Audulus or miRack that take on some of the eurorack role in software. Is it just something that happens organically - like do you see a great eurorack module that you want to try so you get it, or do you pass over eurorack modules if you've a good iOS AUv3 that does something similar? Does it come down to the interface and how you want to modulate the gear/AU (e.g. midi vs cv)? I waited over a year for the es-9 to become available and I wound up buying a couple of modules I _knew_ I'd sell once I could hook up my iPad but I just needed them while I waited😅
Thanks glad the video was useful. For me it was a lot of experimenting, I’m still experimenting. Check out this app as it’s designed just to work with ES9, it’s a little like voltage block or some kind of stored memory, real cool and free! www.seqsual.com/canvas
I don’t think there’s a midi to link app available right now, i dug deep into that rabbit hole. I just slave the hardware to aum instead, but it’s not my first choice. They have that new bluetooth link module that’s like 2hp i’d love to check out
Hi, thank you for sharing. By the way I'm having trouble with ES-9 config, can you share your ES-9 config? Because my es-9 input goes directly to ES-9 main output. So it doesn't get effect from AUM(IPad.) Thanks again
Thanks for this, I have been on the fence about buying an es-9 to multitrack/record on my ipad but I think this has solidified it for me. How much of a PITA is the es-9 config and are you using any midi controllers to adjust settings within AUM?
ES9 was pretty straightforward to configure, and yeah at one point I had a Faderfox to control but actually I’ve gotten to really like touching the screen especially with a matte screen protector which helps your fingers glide on it better.
@@SoundsMickI have an older iPad pro with lightning port and the apple USB adapter, I'd like to try this with my midi to cv adapter and could I also use the audio out (headphone out) with my modular without having to invest in the ES9?
@@AndrewHoeveler I don't think it'll let you monitor out of a soundcard (ES-9) and the headphone port. But a midi-cv convertor like Hexinverter Mutant Brain, will be seen as MIDI device and not an audio interface so you'll be good!
holy shit, this was the tutorial i needed. learned a lot about AUM and my ES-9. Thank you!
This video is brilliant. Thanks for taking the time to put this together.
nice one, cheers. I'm doing similar, but with a Macbook and Bitwig these days. So lovely to be able to keep the creative flow by doing the fiddly stuff in the digital domain
Wow this is an incredible setup! Ill have to look into getting AUM and ES9 for my rig
amazing tutorial.Big thanks.This convince me to buy es-9 because i have few modules and can;t afford to buy expensive granular ones for example. Thanks again.
Glad it helped!
Lovely stuff
Excellent. Thank you
very useful tutorial,thx!
Fantastic nice to see your workflow. I have nearly identical workflow, except I use oxi sequencer, and I sync it from the AUM iPad so I get the same start stop as iPad sequencers.
I use covariant a lot to get the cv and gates out from the es-9. And if I want the same latency on the iPad sounds, I put it out of the es9 and to an input again, MIDI and the output has almost identical latency.
Cheers Bobb.
That's interesting about adding the latency, I was doing something similar to very tightly sync my hardware fx sends and returns, but it turned out to just add too much latency when I wanted to use a keyboard live over the top.
@@SoundsMick I only do it so the iPad drums or synths/ clocks gets the same latency as my es-9 inputs, everything else goes through the inputs one time anyhow, where the most latency is. It’s nearly impossible to get rid of latency, the trick feels like is to get the same latency on everything. Just my humble theory, it never worked for me to try some sort of compensation stuff.
Sorry if I missed it - what is the grain recorder/player you use around 12:00? TIA
That is called Spacecraft
apps.apple.com/gb/app/spacecraft-granular-synth/id1391256308
Thanks for sharing. That AUM seems to be quite powerful. Are you using an iPad pro?
I am yeah, but it may be overkill if I'm honest. Am using the M1 ipad pro.
Very interesting , thank you for this video but what is the advantage of using this app and not Logic Pro on iPad ( like a sound source and sequencer )
Logic Pro is designed for linear clip editing and layering where AUM is essentially just a super mixer / recorder with insert FX. Depends how you want to make music, I tend to record performances of an ensemble of instruments vs recording parts one at a time and copy / pasting audio or midi clips. For my purposes the interface of AUM is easier to use / read and has more focus.
@@SoundsMick thank you , actually i m planning to buy a eurorack but i just need to use it as an effect processor ( i use Live Loops on Logic Pro )( i want to use Logic Pro as my sound source and my sequencer ) so just want to know if it is possible to do that with Logic Pro and expert sleepers es9 and if it is possible to record it live on Logic Pro
@@amaraseif6526yeah that’s definitely possible with Logic Pro sounds fun!
Super cool! I was looking for a nice multi-track recorder App for iPad anyway; there's a Motu Ultralite in my live case and watching this video, I now want to use the mixer and AU too : ) for live mastering... Is it stable enough to go on stage with the master output depending on the app working perfectly? are there any latency issues?
I think it’s pretty stable within AUM, if you run non-auv3 apps that need to be a full screen app, like Borderlands or Patterning, when you switch apps that can sometimes glitch out.
Fantastic! Is your music released anywhere I can get WAVs?
I do yeah, this album here includes a full version of the opening track of this video: sovnrecords.bandcamp.com/album/knots
@@SoundsMick Thanks 👌 Maybe worth adding to your video description so others find it too?
@@WuddupDok Yeah good idea, I've been adding it to my more recent videos since the album came out, but prob good to go back through others and add it there too :)
@@SoundsMick Just picked up the album and listened through- lovely stuff, keep em coming!
How did you configure your ES-9 and in which mode are you operating it? Any problems with latency? Thanks for the video!
I've not touched any settings on it as far as I can recall. Latency is great, there is round trip latency if you send something out of the output to say, a filter in your system and then back in again - but that's just like, physics I think there's no way to avoid it. I run everything on a very low buffer and normal use latency is very tight.
Thanks for this, it's really helping me get started with the es-9. Once you had this all set up, how do you decide which part of the system to expand? There are so many great iOS synths and stuff like Audulus or miRack that take on some of the eurorack role in software. Is it just something that happens organically - like do you see a great eurorack module that you want to try so you get it, or do you pass over eurorack modules if you've a good iOS AUv3 that does something similar? Does it come down to the interface and how you want to modulate the gear/AU (e.g. midi vs cv)?
I waited over a year for the es-9 to become available and I wound up buying a couple of modules I _knew_ I'd sell once I could hook up my iPad but I just needed them while I waited😅
Thanks glad the video was useful. For me it was a lot of experimenting, I’m still experimenting. Check out this app as it’s designed just to work with ES9, it’s a little like voltage block or some kind of stored memory, real cool and free! www.seqsual.com/canvas
Thanks for sharing this - great set up. Where is the output of the iPad going to? Does everything come out of the ES-9?
Thanks! Yeah everything is coming out the ES9 direct to my speakers - it also has a headphone port.
@@SoundsMick great - I was trying to choose between ES-8 & 9 and this is an extra reason to get one!
So wait. You don’t need any fx modulars when you have the ES 9? You can use plug ins?
Sadly it looks like MIDI Link Sync is no longer available and the developer is defunct :( I really wish AUM would provide more options for clock sync!
Oh no that's a real shame I use Midi Link Sync every day, def an opportunity for a new dev to make an alternative.
I don’t think there’s a midi to link app available right now, i dug deep into that rabbit hole. I just slave the hardware to aum instead, but it’s not my first choice. They have that new bluetooth link module that’s like 2hp i’d love to check out
Hi, thank you for sharing. By the way I'm having trouble with ES-9 config, can you share your ES-9 config? Because my es-9 input goes directly to ES-9 main output. So it doesn't get effect from AUM(IPad.) Thanks again
Yeah so the outputs are numbered I think 8 channels later than you’d think. For me, the es9 output 1 is output 9 in AUM (or something like that)
Thanks for this, I have been on the fence about buying an es-9 to multitrack/record on my ipad but I think this has solidified it for me.
How much of a PITA is the es-9 config and are you using any midi controllers to adjust settings within AUM?
ES9 was pretty straightforward to configure, and yeah at one point I had a Faderfox to control but actually I’ve gotten to really like touching the screen especially with a matte screen protector which helps your fingers glide on it better.
@@SoundsMickI have an older iPad pro with lightning port and the apple USB adapter, I'd like to try this with my midi to cv adapter and could I also use the audio out (headphone out) with my modular without having to invest in the ES9?
@@AndrewHoeveler I don't think it'll let you monitor out of a soundcard (ES-9) and the headphone port. But a midi-cv convertor like Hexinverter Mutant Brain, will be seen as MIDI device and not an audio interface so you'll be good!