Doubt it as you can only run into people with similar weapon lvls as you. And if you look at most of the fights he was taking barely any damage from anything while 2 hitting most people. Not sure how as I have 60 vig and still get 1-2 hit with 35-40% damage reduction in most defense categories
@@sarge3109 You run into people with similar levels exactly... He's ganking newbies trying to progress with coop. These are all clips of him executing noobs, I don't see anyone getting even close to killing him. Than again he also only posts him winning so idk
@@AsianYellowIce Plus he goes with a pretty strong build right now, too much OP knowing that status effects gets you stunned even if you dodge it, leaving you open for other attacks. Seems unfair to me that even dodging it properly you still get the status.
@@nathanflinchum1153 That's stupid. It's not an intended part of the game. It was implemented to cater to casuals, and crybabies who think: "This game isn't fair". None of the other games included Spirit Summons... So why include them now? Is Elden Ring more difficult than their previous games? Nope. What is different? A bunch of lazy noobs complained about "Accessablity". That's what is new. Spirit Summons are a handicap added to shut people up, and they are still bitching.
@@cawker1984 it’s an item in DS1 that turns your rolls into incredibly fast flips. Many PVPers would just ninja backflip behind people into a backstab.
@@crowsenpai5625 it was only op when it allowed flips up to 50% equip load. So massive poise and flips when it would’ve been a mid roll without the ring.
I think it being allowed on big weapons makes it incredibly fun, also consider bloodhound knights use it with a greatsword, wouldn’t make sense for it to not be useable with big weapons.
@@personunknown4573 The goal they went for with Elden ring was freedom. Having so many different ashes available for different weapons allows builds to be far more diverse, especially when they sort out the damage on some stuff so people don’t gravitate towards one build I think Elden ring will be the most fun and customisable pvp in all of from softs history.
How do they all have 10 vigor and still dont do damage? I didnt even know that it was possible to get less than 1k damage from a moonveil hit but these guys are not even dealing 300 damage xD
I think this is lvl 80 PvP with only like +6 to +8 Moonveils. The issue is at meta level with + 10 everyone does so much damage. Lvl 80 is way more fun imo, also more places to invade.
Because most of these noobs entering a Fromsoft game level everything but vigor. They have the "leveling hp is useless because i'll still die in 2 hits!" mentality without realizing the backwards stupidity of that thought since leveling hp obviously means not dying in 2 hits. They also tend to have comically ridiculous stat distributions everywhere with no rhyme or reason that would make 0 sense for Fromsoft game veterans since they're trying to use all the weapons with their varied stat requirements. They're also extremely reliant on co-op cheesing everything so they end up not only with really dumb stat distributions, but also comically incompetent since they're not used to actually doing anything themselves (hence the constant running away). Basically, if you pump vigor and have minimum wielding stats for your desired weapon, you're already way ahead of 90% of the game's playerbase in terms of stat efficiency. Most players even all the way up to the level 70s to 90s range still don't reach 1k hp due to this and they also die super quickly to every boss with so low competency that as a co-oper you wonder why you're bothering babysitting these people and as an invader you wonder why you're bothering to put up with these people.
The amount of times I've personally seen people use that new shield counter mechanic, not realizing that, if they don't have enough poise. They're simply giving you a free hit.
I suck at this game especially PvP, and I also love colossal weapons, as a result was spending half my time struggling to get a hit in without getting fucked up against people(again I suck and my build is likely shit). So when I figured out I could put bloodhound step on my greatsword, my level of enjoyment skyrocketed. I am speed now. I still lose a lot, but now with style :D
The great sword is definitely a difficult weapon to use for 1v1s because of the heavily telegraphed swings, for invasions however if you duel wield colossal swords you might be able to find a combo that can 1 shot KO people with jumping attacks. If you have a strength build you should give the Night Rider’s Glaive a shot, amazing move set with tons of range and an S in strength scaling if you infuse it with Heavy.
It's because many people are aiming for op RL 150 hybrid builds shown off by larger soultubers and of course level vigor last. Meanwhile those of us aiming for 120 have 60 vigor 30 levels earlier. Hell with the soreseal I have 60 vigor and 55 strength at RL 100
You know what? I got a theory on why Oroboro gets so many noob invasions. I bet his weapons are around +7-8 at around level 60 since he's invading Caelid. My theory is that these new guys got the free +8 rapier from Rogier while not giving their own weapons the proper boost they need. Because of that, they prolly get match-made with +8 weapons in mind, even if that isn't what they have equipped. Same stuff as that one lightning spear at Sen's Fortress in DS1.
I would love to see an Elden Ring PvP tips and tricks style video from you, I have always loved PvP in these games but never really felt confident. I struggle a lot trying to manage the host and their summons when im invading!
Even tho xebo seems like a hater ill say that bloodhound step is a MUST if you are an invader, i try tk always have it in one of my equiped weapons. But all in all is not a sure win anything it ll just make it a lot easier to repositiob when you are in a 2v1 or 3v1 situation which is 95% of your invasions. Anything else will highly depend on your build but usually u want something to do high damage, something to roll catch and something for close quarters. I usually play strenght build, for me great sword is the high damage it also has great roll catch capabilities but for chasedowns i use halberds (commander standart is a personal favorite) i also have dual beastman curved swords, dual spears (pike, partisan), the big great star hammer, giant crusher and a set of tools for pressuring. My advice would be to be a coward as much as possible, force all the 1v1 u can and in any other case try to cover yourself with the monsters or traps. If u are 1v1 just go all in, 8/10 they wont be able to perform alone. Mages are your worst enemy specially en 3v1, always play around obstaclea so they miss their spells, finally dont be afraid to usr bombs, explosives, poison knives, anythibg to pressure and provoke since you are most likely getting an unfair battle, so BE unfair
@@neilkuckman6627 bloodborne is my most played game… the one in elden ring is nowhere close to that games version, the only resemblance is the fact that you go in and out of invisibility.
@@jcdentongaming1304 I guarantee you that 80% to 90% of people that use moonveil are either neckbeards or tired of getting gutter-stomped in both PVE and PVP.
@@karls4937 bloodhound step should have its stamina cost increased to a point which it can still be used as a good evasion and reposition skill, but not a skill that can be spammed for 5 times then still left enough stamina to poke ppl.
@@flightassist3785 You say that but remember that the game is as fast as Sekiro but our roll and most of our attack animations (excluding Ashes of War) are still on Dark Souls 3 level.
Love Caelid. I've only played 20 hours so far, and probably reached it around lvl 20. I killed the Tree Sentinel, wandered around the starting region, and found Caelid, where the only weapon I have that can actual deal damage is my Tree Sentinel weapon lol. I have just been hanging out there, trying to survive, and it's been crazy, but the area is so cool!
Offensively I think bloodhounds step is in a good spot. Roll attacks have always been parry bait so the give and take feels good. However when someone uses it passively to make a fight last around 10 mins I want to eat my controller
They want to discourage PvP plain and simple which they absolutely hated ever since Bloodborne and the reason why they lock PvP arena behind dlc just as an afterthought.
@@Dungpie64 Huh? That's a little Tinfoil Hat-ish of you. All because the game isn't perfectly the way you want it to be doesn't mean that PvP is systematically being discouraged. That's just silly. Bloodborne PvP was extremely fun to me; I still go back to play it every once in a while. The reason why the Arenas in DSIII was a DLC was due to so many people requesting that they add Arenas back to the game. FromSoft just gave the community what they wanted. Lastly, if anything, the only reason why FromSoft patches their games in attempt to balance them in the first place is most likely due to all of the data/criticism collected from PvP.
@@RaggenZ Yeah. It's by far one of the most fucked and confusing balance changes that Elden Ring has. It also makes Bloodhound's Step absolutely bonkers for Ultra/Colossal Greatswords. It's not even fair how dumb it is.
I can actually see them removing Bloodhound's Step from the colossal weapons because holy shit that is ridiculous... Here's an idea for you Oro. Think you'd be able to pull off a bow only build? Their scaling caps out at D/D (except the Golem's Greatbow which is C/D) so you'd need to rely a lot on status procs to have kill pressure but it could be fun. I'm considering trying it for PvE after finishing Elden Ring earlier for the first time but might wait until the bows get buffed? Would love to hear your opinion on it.
Great video, Would really appreciate a breakdown of ideal level for invaders for each area of the map if that makes sense. Like whats the best SL for royal lucaria academy vs. Weeping peninsula etc. I think weapon upgrade level if that has any affect on match making would crucial to know as well. +5 sl 40 at x location is ideal etc.
He has a talisman that’s +1 that negates a lot of magic… also running the dragonspine talisman +2 which negates physical damage. So moon veil +10 does nothing to him
@@zeropeople8478 Isn't he only running level 60 with this build? So he is legit going with later game items then going to a noobish area... I seen the the end that scythe hit him. Only doing not even 4% of his health? Pretty unfair advantages. Love Oro his vids and everything.. But everything was lopsided towards his victory. Not even to add. Most of these people are not ready or prepared for any pvp. As they all just run.
@@skylarion2848 At that point he only explored Limgrave, Liurnia and Caelid. Extensively, but only them (well, he made a visit to the Volcano Manor at one point, but I don't think he got much from it since he was trying to rush that portion on-stream). Oro is only doing so well here because he's very built for PVP: he pumped Vigor and he knows how to get the most out of his weaponry with minimal stat investment.
A valid take, only if Hosts realize the same. Bloodhound Step, Moonveil, Rivers of Blood, these are the easiest means to counter a Host and their phantoms, so of course invaders flock to them.
@@sentientgoose1020 They take out two hit confirms and what are people gonna do? Use the combo confirms from weapon arts and the high damage single hit weapon arts. Makes sense to me. Bleed could use a nerf to the buildup speed though, and this is coming from a guy currently running dual-wielded rivers of blood and occult bloodhound claws.
I'm hosting fighting clubs in first step - lvl 230+ - Man! I'm gaining 60 - 79k runes per red phantom kill. It's so cool. It's too funny when the guys play the role!
He's just showing his more fun fights, the whole point of a montage is to show your best moments, he showed himself die in a few clips my guy because his death was fun to watch, but nobody wants to see him fight 3 level 150's with RoB, moonveil, Dragon breath incantations, bloodhound step, and blue azure spammers ganking him into oblivion
It looks like Flaming Strike only combos if they're farther away. The flame from the initial flame sweep has a little travel time - but the swing of your weapon doesn't. If you can get them with the lingering edge or the left end of the arc, you get the followup weapon hit. On the other hand, if you're closer to them when you start, they have less time to react to the fire.
@@dihnsfire Not always (as you can see in the video), it's not a guaranteed combo at all ranges. If someone is directly next to you when they get hit by the wave (earlier in the animation of casting it), they'll have time to roll away before you can hit them with the followup. If they get hit by the edge of the flame after the projectile's travel time - or at the left end of the sweep near the end of its animation - you'll have less of your own casting animation left to play during their hitstun and you can more reliably followup. Looks like you need proper spacing to make it a true combo.
Bloodhound step is an excellent tool for invaders. It really allows you to even up the scoreboard against these overlevelled phantoms and get out of blenders. Not sure how fun it would be in duels though
@@sketchc.9501 it’s tradition for oro to pub stomp newbies upon every release of souls game as goes for every seasoned invader really. Can’t be helped it’ll always happen with a new installment.
Let me be real. I’m happy so many new people came to the souls series. I love the games and I hold the friends that I’ve made in this community very dear. But god damn. I wish I could go back to when this community was smaller. Just temporarily… I feel like all I see is “nerf this” “x thing is busted” and to a point I get it. Some things genuinely are imbalanced and need fixing, but some of these suggestions I see are fucking ridiculous. From people who very obviously have no idea how mechanics work. Some of y’all WOULD NOT have survived PVP from past souls games. On god. Like I said. Happy that y’all are here. But all the complaining has me nostalgic for when we were a smaller people. Sorry if I offended anyone. Rant over.
Where did you get the 2nd Naginata, pls (think that's what the spear katana type weapon is called?) can you farm that, or did someone drop a 2nd for you or something? That's what I had to do to get my 2nd Utchi. Wish some of the more iconic weapons were farmable or buyable infinitely in this game. I guess we can change scaling on the fly though, so having multiples isn't as important as in previous games. If you want to dual them though, having two is obvs needed.
We all taking a shit on bloodhound step, but the moment the remove it or nerfe it i have no idea how an invader is gonna deal with the barrage of attacks coming their way. They did invaders dirty this time around too many handicaps
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Ororboro: gets moonveiled for 2 damage. Me: gets moonveiled and has to re-live childhood trauma
Dude probably didnt have any int and weapon wasnt upgraded.
He invades a lot of noobs, this guy had like 500HP and 6 Int probably.
Doubt it as you can only run into people with similar weapon lvls as you. And if you look at most of the fights he was taking barely any damage from anything while 2 hitting most people. Not sure how as I have 60 vig and still get 1-2 hit with 35-40% damage reduction in most defense categories
@@sarge3109 You run into people with similar levels exactly... He's ganking newbies trying to progress with coop. These are all clips of him executing noobs, I don't see anyone getting even close to killing him.
Than again he also only posts him winning so idk
@@AsianYellowIce Plus he goes with a pretty strong build right now, too much OP knowing that status effects gets you stunned even if you dodge it, leaving you open for other attacks. Seems unfair to me that even dodging it properly you still get the status.
Congrats you somehow made Caelid even more of a living hell.
stop being a summoning scrub
@@nyaggardly imagine caring if someone uses summons, it’s literally an intended part of the game, people are gonna use it if they want
@@nathanflinchum1153 That's stupid.
It's not an intended part of the game. It was implemented to cater to casuals, and crybabies who think: "This game isn't fair".
None of the other games included Spirit Summons... So why include them now?
Is Elden Ring more difficult than their previous games? Nope.
What is different? A bunch of lazy noobs complained about "Accessablity". That's what is new.
Spirit Summons are a handicap added to shut people up, and they are still bitching.
@@neilkuckman6627 werent they talking about player summons tho
@@itswa30 Shhhh. Lol.
6:20 the fucking shot kills one guy, goes through him, and knocks the host off a cliff, beautiful
mans got a collateral. gawd DAMN.
Sees thumbnail: aw sick guts sword invades in caelid this will be cool
Watches first 20 seconds: 😦
Bloodhound Step makes Darkwood Grain Ring look slow
And at any encumbrance
@@Terror187D the legend never dies
I never thought there would be a item more broken than the DS1 Dark Wood Grain ring. I was clearly wrong
im a noob. which item?
@@cawker1984 it’s an item in DS1 that turns your rolls into incredibly fast flips. Many PVPers would just ninja backflip behind people into a backstab.
@@crowsenpai5625 it was only op when it allowed flips up to 50% equip load. So massive poise and flips when it would’ve been a mid roll without the ring.
Mind you, Bloundhound Step is very good and fun to use but maybe it should have been restricted to claws, daggers and small swords.
Yea I feel like too many weapons can use too many ashes but it is funny to see a giant greatsword wielder slide around like he’s on ice
Or we could just remove it entirely lmao fuck bloodhound step!
@@TacSav253 Or you just can git gud instead of whining LMAO
I think it being allowed on big weapons makes it incredibly fun, also consider bloodhound knights use it with a greatsword, wouldn’t make sense for it to not be useable with big weapons.
@@personunknown4573 The goal they went for with Elden ring was freedom. Having so many different ashes available for different weapons allows builds to be far more diverse, especially when they sort out the damage on some stuff so people don’t gravitate towards one build I think Elden ring will be the most fun and customisable pvp in all of from softs history.
How do they all have 10 vigor and still dont do damage? I didnt even know that it was possible to get less than 1k damage from a moonveil hit but these guys are not even dealing 300 damage xD
I think this is lvl 80 PvP with only like +6 to +8 Moonveils. The issue is at meta level with + 10 everyone does so much damage. Lvl 80 is way more fun imo, also more places to invade.
"I wish I could play Dark Souls pvp with Bloodborne mechanics, that would be pretty fun"
This game is such a shitshow in a very fun and simultaneously sad way
@@BasedChadman well said
@@BasedChadman If you count the PVP
Oroboro: Uses bloodhound step.
Me: Oh no....
Also Oroboro: Using it in an aggressive manner and not just running and dancing around people.
Me: Ok.
That ballista shot was wonderful
I wonder why the people he gets always have so low health and do so little damage to him...
Lol exactly he always just plows thru 2-4 noobs but the second i invade its 3 meta nerds waiting to moonveil and rivers of blood me
Because people don't level vigor and upgrade their weapons. That's not his fault, he's not selecting who he fights.
Oro is a notorious twink invader lol
Because most of these noobs entering a Fromsoft game level everything but vigor. They have the "leveling hp is useless because i'll still die in 2 hits!" mentality without realizing the backwards stupidity of that thought since leveling hp obviously means not dying in 2 hits. They also tend to have comically ridiculous stat distributions everywhere with no rhyme or reason that would make 0 sense for Fromsoft game veterans since they're trying to use all the weapons with their varied stat requirements. They're also extremely reliant on co-op cheesing everything so they end up not only with really dumb stat distributions, but also comically incompetent since they're not used to actually doing anything themselves (hence the constant running away).
Basically, if you pump vigor and have minimum wielding stats for your desired weapon, you're already way ahead of 90% of the game's playerbase in terms of stat efficiency. Most players even all the way up to the level 70s to 90s range still don't reach 1k hp due to this and they also die super quickly to every boss with so low competency that as a co-oper you wonder why you're bothering babysitting these people and as an invader you wonder why you're bothering to put up with these people.
@@joshuakim5240 bro I’ve been playing souls for awhile too but you sound like such a neckbeard 💀💀💀
The amount of times I've personally seen people use that new shield counter mechanic, not realizing that, if they don't have enough poise. They're simply giving you a free hit.
I suck at this game especially PvP, and I also love colossal weapons, as a result was spending half my time struggling to get a hit in without getting fucked up against people(again I suck and my build is likely shit). So when I figured out I could put bloodhound step on my greatsword, my level of enjoyment skyrocketed. I am speed now. I still lose a lot, but now with style :D
The great sword is definitely a difficult weapon to use for 1v1s because of the heavily telegraphed swings, for invasions however if you duel wield colossal swords you might be able to find a combo that can 1 shot KO people with jumping attacks. If you have a strength build you should give the Night Rider’s Glaive a shot, amazing move set with tons of range and an S in strength scaling if you infuse it with Heavy.
At least you are happy, right?
Try the crouching poke its not parryable and has range. Good with giant hunt or bloodhound
@@petrwarthursty2011 Oh yeah, I'm having a great time with it!
It takes time and having an effective build that you know how to use and ENJOY really goes a long way.
Sword dance is such a fun ash of war. Absolutely *chunks* people. Using it on my dismounter and on my nightrider glaive and it's been a blast.
Even at level 125 people don't have vigor, I've killed entire ganks with one dual curved sword l1 cause no one had more than 1k hp
It's because many people are aiming for op RL 150 hybrid builds shown off by larger soultubers and of course level vigor last. Meanwhile those of us aiming for 120 have 60 vigor 30 levels earlier. Hell with the soreseal I have 60 vigor and 55 strength at RL 100
@@obi-wan3916 pvp compared to pve
The host who tried to go up the stairs 😂😂😂
Finally someone who doesn’t use blood hound to just run away the whole time
I appreciate the aggressive use of bloodhound step since most people just use it to run away and dodge lol
The bird stomp finisher was insane lol
Yeah that was sick
You know what? I got a theory on why Oroboro gets so many noob invasions. I bet his weapons are around +7-8 at around level 60 since he's invading Caelid. My theory is that these new guys got the free +8 rapier from Rogier while not giving their own weapons the proper boost they need. Because of that, they prolly get match-made with +8 weapons in mind, even if that isn't what they have equipped. Same stuff as that one lightning spear at Sen's Fortress in DS1.
also nobody levels vigor for some reason. fr. please. level vigor.
You bring shame to Guts when you put BHS on his blade.
Lesson of the days Kids is to remember to level vigor.
I would love to see an Elden Ring PvP tips and tricks style video from you, I have always loved PvP in these games but never really felt confident. I struggle a lot trying to manage the host and their summons when im invading!
bloodhound step. boom, you win. no skill required
Even tho xebo seems like a hater ill say that bloodhound step is a MUST if you are an invader, i try tk always have it in one of my equiped weapons.
But all in all is not a sure win anything it ll just make it a lot easier to repositiob when you are in a 2v1 or 3v1 situation which is 95% of your invasions.
Anything else will highly depend on your build but usually u want something to do high damage, something to roll catch and something for close quarters.
I usually play strenght build, for me great sword is the high damage it also has great roll catch capabilities but for chasedowns i use halberds (commander standart is a personal favorite) i also have dual beastman curved swords, dual spears (pike, partisan), the big great star hammer, giant crusher and a set of tools for pressuring.
My advice would be to be a coward as much as possible, force all the 1v1 u can and in any other case try to cover yourself with the monsters or traps. If u are 1v1 just go all in, 8/10 they wont be able to perform alone. Mages are your worst enemy specially en 3v1, always play around obstaclea so they miss their spells, finally dont be afraid to usr bombs, explosives, poison knives, anythibg to pressure and provoke since you are most likely getting an unfair battle, so BE unfair
@@xeno703 Try Bloodhound step in Bloodborne. See if you can beat the game with "No skill".
@@neilkuckman6627 bloodborne is my most played game… the one in elden ring is nowhere close to that games version, the only resemblance is the fact that you go in and out of invisibility.
@@xeno703 It's practically identical.
You go invisible. Your dodge animation is longer in range. And you have more I-Frames.
How is it different?
Using Bloodhound’s step makes it so that you’re playing chess while everyone else is playing checkers.
Ah yes pressing L2. Galaxy brain strats for sure.
Lmao
@@nathanwhiting5475 compared to the moonveil. Yes
@@jcdentongaming1304 I guarantee you that 80% to 90% of people that use moonveil are either neckbeards or tired of getting gutter-stomped in both PVE and PVP.
Especially with that crouch poke
If I saw oro with cross nagis and bloodhound step my ass is jumping off a cliff
It’s always the giggle, then you know
“Oh my fucking god!” That made me lol
So let me get this straight, bloodhound step + super poise + op greatswords = very fun cancer build 😊
"strength builds are underpowered!!!!! magic is op!!!!!"
bloodhound step is just the cancer of game now. Rly fked up design
@@flightassist3785 I honestly think greatswords should not have bloodhoundstep, that range alone is insane.
@@karls4937 bloodhound step should have its stamina cost increased to a point which it can still be used as a good evasion and reposition skill, but not a skill that can be spammed for 5 times then still left enough stamina to poke ppl.
@@flightassist3785 You say that but remember that the game is as fast as Sekiro but our roll and most of our attack animations (excluding Ashes of War) are still on Dark Souls 3 level.
I really need a "meanwhile in Caelid" meme.
I’d love to see the stats and stuff on your builds.
So many of them had no vigor...
Remember to level your Vigor guys, "just don't get hit" sounds like a great plan till you get hit.
these dudes running around with 100 health crack me up
You definitely got a big influence over the xbox community anytime you post a build I see people using the same one all of a sudden in pvp
Love Caelid. I've only played 20 hours so far, and probably reached it around lvl 20.
I killed the Tree Sentinel, wandered around the starting region, and found Caelid, where the only weapon I have that can actual deal damage is my Tree Sentinel weapon lol. I have just been hanging out there, trying to survive, and it's been crazy, but the area is so cool!
Bloodhound's step Greatsword? There's the Oro we all know and love. Buh-byyyee!
That frost stomp tho.... Poor dude 😂
2:25 Poo Bear getting attacked by the bear looool
it feels downright ICKY watching these early elden ring vids where oro's running BHS lmaooo
Bloodhound step needs a HARD nerf...
Offensively I think bloodhounds step is in a good spot. Roll attacks have always been parry bait so the give and take feels good. However when someone uses it passively to make a fight last around 10 mins I want to eat my controller
Fought a mage spammer with bloodhound step. He used it to get distance fast and cast his spells
11:53 Oroboro's dishing out a new mix of IcyHot
Yo that's genius with the BH step + ultra poke
It's so stupid that you can't Parry the Ultra/Colossal Greatsword's Rolling Attack anymore. I wonder why they decided to change that.
They want to discourage PvP plain and simple which they absolutely hated ever since Bloodborne and the reason why they lock PvP arena behind dlc just as an afterthought.
@@Dungpie64 Huh? That's a little Tinfoil Hat-ish of you. All because the game isn't perfectly the way you want it to be doesn't mean that PvP is systematically being discouraged. That's just silly.
Bloodborne PvP was extremely fun to me; I still go back to play it every once in a while.
The reason why the Arenas in DSIII was a DLC was due to so many people requesting that they add Arenas back to the game. FromSoft just gave the community what they wanted.
Lastly, if anything, the only reason why FromSoft patches their games in attempt to balance them in the first place is most likely due to all of the data/criticism collected from PvP.
Wait.. you can't parry roll hit with ultra great sword anymore in elden ring?!
@@RaggenZ Yeah. It's by far one of the most fucked and confusing balance changes that Elden Ring has.
It also makes Bloodhound's Step absolutely bonkers for Ultra/Colossal Greatswords. It's not even fair how dumb it is.
I can actually see them removing Bloodhound's Step from the colossal weapons because holy shit that is ridiculous...
Here's an idea for you Oro. Think you'd be able to pull off a bow only build? Their scaling caps out at D/D (except the Golem's Greatbow which is C/D) so you'd need to rely a lot on status procs to have kill pressure but it could be fun. I'm considering trying it for PvE after finishing Elden Ring earlier for the first time but might wait until the bows get buffed? Would love to hear your opinion on it.
What makes Bloodhound Step on colossal weapons anymore broken than, for example, Bloodhound Step on powerstanced Naginatas?
** Edit for clarity **
@@lildragon0 That's completely irrelevant to what they said lmao.
That's not a nerf to BHS, it's just a nerf to colossals. It's stupidly good no matter what you put it on.
@@Skullivon Bingo. You get it.
@@noonecares3627 What's the first half of OP's comment about then?
I’ve noticed nobody likes to level HP except those of us that invade and rarely use summons
The bloodhound’s step ash of war is so good especially when you pair it with a colossal sword that has good pokes. Love the content man
I wonder how Hoarfrost Stomp guy is doing after the nerf.
Great video, Would really appreciate a breakdown of ideal level for invaders for each area of the map if that makes sense. Like whats the best SL for royal lucaria academy vs. Weeping peninsula etc. I think weapon upgrade level if that has any affect on match making would crucial to know as well. +5 sl 40 at x location is ideal etc.
Good idea! Might do that when I have more experience in invasions :)
How the hell does he have so much damage mitigation? That moon veil only tickled him before he clap their cheeks so hard they exploded
He has a talisman that’s +1 that negates a lot of magic… also running the dragonspine talisman +2 which negates physical damage. So moon veil +10 does nothing to him
@@zeropeople8478 Isn't he only running level 60 with this build? So he is legit going with later game items then going to a noobish area... I seen the the end that scythe hit him. Only doing not even 4% of his health? Pretty unfair advantages. Love Oro his vids and everything.. But everything was lopsided towards his victory. Not even to add. Most of these people are not ready or prepared for any pvp. As they all just run.
@@skylarion2848 At that point he only explored Limgrave, Liurnia and Caelid. Extensively, but only them (well, he made a visit to the Volcano Manor at one point, but I don't think he got much from it since he was trying to rush that portion on-stream). Oro is only doing so well here because he's very built for PVP: he pumped Vigor and he knows how to get the most out of his weaponry with minimal stat investment.
This is why I keep trying to convince people BHS is made for aggression.
Your super villain laugh warms my heart
6:23 proof that backstabs need to be fixed lmfao amazing
the puch line of cestus actually looks preatty good
3:33 imagine hearing a guy who is saying "boop" while shanking you casually
You know something is unbalanced if Oro mentions it being unbalanced lmaooo
Bloodhound step on a strength weapon?
BLASPHEMY
20 seconds in and ive just learned you can thrust poke with the collosal sword. Happy fucking days, defo using this same one as i got it +24
Bloodhound’s Step with ultra greatswords seems really op, but think about how easy it’s going to be to parry people trying to abuse it.
I don't think you can parry any 2 handed ugs attacks. Which sucks
@@santinodalfonso You can parry the rolling and running attacks, right?
I love how the Falchion is the best PVP weapon right now. IRONIC.
it’s not but i feel
Loving how you relish the invasions.
that hand ballista kill was amazing
BHS > Jab > BHS > Jab > BHS > Jab.
How cheap and absolutely maidenless of you, Oroboro. But I guess your sycophants don't mind. They never do.
That Hoarfrost dude LOL
True skill, bloodhound and poking...
It's odd to me that bloodflame on a twinblade doesn't proc on a running attack, but two blood falchions do.
That collat was so beautiful 🤩 lol
6:21
Hot take: invaders shouldn't bitch about "unfairness." Whatever you get whether it's a gank or an easy kill is what you signed up for.
A valid take, only if Hosts realize the same. Bloodhound Step, Moonveil, Rivers of Blood, these are the easiest means to counter a Host and their phantoms, so of course invaders flock to them.
After watching your more recent streams and this video my new favorite saying is "get in this"
I simultaneously love seeing Oro punish these people and want From to have separate co-op and pvp servers at the same time.
High-level pvp in this game is nightmare lol Its like bleed, magic, bleed, magic lol
Moonveil and Rivers of Blood
I’m convinced that everyone who uses these cancer dex int metas are actually bots controlled by Miyazaki’s neurons
@@sentientgoose1020 Bleed it's super overpowered it definitely needs a nerf lol
@@Alec_cz fr and they all play the same too, they’re just walking hostile weapon arts
@@sentientgoose1020 They take out two hit confirms and what are people gonna do? Use the combo confirms from weapon arts and the high damage single hit weapon arts. Makes sense to me.
Bleed could use a nerf to the buildup speed though, and this is coming from a guy currently running dual-wielded rivers of blood and occult bloodhound claws.
I knew Double Slash was gonna be a good Ash for PVP.
The hoarfrost user was getting my blood boiling. Jesus christ that was such a long fight. Now I get why it was nerfed
I'm hosting fighting clubs in first step - lvl 230+ -
Man! I'm gaining 60 - 79k runes per red phantom kill. It's so cool.
It's too funny when the guys play the role!
Honestly the problem with you tube invaders is they never show them dying. Everyone is apparently the perfect souls player
He's just showing his more fun fights, the whole point of a montage is to show your best moments, he showed himself die in a few clips my guy because his death was fun to watch,
but nobody wants to see him fight 3 level 150's with RoB, moonveil, Dragon breath incantations, bloodhound step, and blue azure spammers ganking him into oblivion
"Moonveil that bitch!" 🤣🤣
love the young tiger of kai cosplay
It looks like Flaming Strike only combos if they're farther away. The flame from the initial flame sweep has a little travel time - but the swing of your weapon doesn't. If you can get them with the lingering edge or the left end of the arc, you get the followup weapon hit. On the other hand, if you're closer to them when you start, they have less time to react to the fire.
Flaming Strike combos if you do a charge attack after the initial flames... And that charge attack does a good solid chunk of damage on it's own.
@@dihnsfire Not always (as you can see in the video), it's not a guaranteed combo at all ranges. If someone is directly next to you when they get hit by the wave (earlier in the animation of casting it), they'll have time to roll away before you can hit them with the followup. If they get hit by the edge of the flame after the projectile's travel time - or at the left end of the sweep near the end of its animation - you'll have less of your own casting animation left to play during their hitstun and you can more reliably followup. Looks like you need proper spacing to make it a true combo.
just dont feel like an ultra greater sword be able to us that ash of war
Wait so you can actually proc bleed with bloodflame blade ?
Bloodhound step is an excellent tool for invaders. It really allows you to even up the scoreboard against these overlevelled phantoms and get out of blenders. Not sure how fun it would be in duels though
Hoarfrost stop is insane lmao
The gank squads are just so unpleasant
How come Oroboro took no damage or stagger when the gold summon hit him twice during the ballista reload??
what weapon do you use at 0:43? love the conten ever since your first ds2 playthrough series ! keep it up
Exactly what I was looking for love you oro :)
how do you take so little damage ? when I invade I take chunks of damage like 3 shots with 60 vigor
Probably bc he's invading players who don't level up their proper stats for the weapons they use. They all fight pretty noobish so it's my guess
@@sketchc.9501 it’s tradition for oro to pub stomp newbies upon every release of souls game as goes for every seasoned invader really. Can’t be helped it’ll always happen with a new installment.
Let me be real. I’m happy so many new people came to the souls series. I love the games and I hold the friends that I’ve made in this community very dear.
But god damn.
I wish I could go back to when this community was smaller. Just temporarily… I feel like all I see is “nerf this” “x thing is busted” and to a point I get it. Some things genuinely are imbalanced and need fixing, but some of these suggestions I see are fucking ridiculous. From people who very obviously have no idea how mechanics work.
Some of y’all WOULD NOT have survived PVP from past souls games. On god.
Like I said. Happy that y’all are here. But all the complaining has me nostalgic for when we were a smaller people. Sorry if I offended anyone. Rant over.
Where did you get the 2nd Naginata, pls (think that's what the spear katana type weapon is called?) can you farm that, or did someone drop a 2nd for you or something? That's what I had to do to get my 2nd Utchi. Wish some of the more iconic weapons were farmable or buyable infinitely in this game. I guess we can change scaling on the fly though, so having multiples isn't as important as in previous games.
If you want to dual them though, having two is obvs needed.
Overlevelled Obobobo invading with broken stuff, some things never change
I enjoyed when he complained about moonveil then was using rivers of blood, hoarfrost stomp, etc. lmao
@@LV426Survivor i don't get how he can complain about moonveil being overpowered but being overpowered and broken is only ok if it benefits him
How can he be overlevelled when you can only invade people within 5 levels below you and 25 levels above you bozo
@@LV426Survivor Thats not rivers of blood. Nagakiba with double slash skill.
@@LV426Survivor He didn't have Rivers of Blood at this point. Additionally, it was still bugged.
Thank you for mercilessly murdering gankers… puts a smile to my face :)
Try first step invasions at 150 if you want something a bit more challenging. Dedicated gank squads are everywhere.
1:55...that spell range lol.. and that Bear handshake funny as hell
I love that the hosts strategy end up being running as fast and far as possible
Well yeah, it's not like they can damage him
Man has to use bloodhound step
Why yes Brandon, Bloodhound's Step is in fact quite ridiculous in both PvE and PvP how did you know?
Nice variety of weapons used. :)
We all taking a shit on bloodhound step, but the moment the remove it or nerfe it i have no idea how an invader is gonna deal with the barrage of attacks coming their way. They did invaders dirty this time around too many handicaps
So that ash of war is good on the great sword, I knew it
Man, these people have way too little vigor.