You guys have made me an expert on this topic. First I saw the video and made the arrow on the filter face UP. Then I read the comments , did it all again and made the arrow face down. THEN I read the MANUAL and if you look at Chapter 4 page 12 and 13 you will see: "CAUTION: make sure the arrow faces UP"!
Yes on stock oem filters, aftermarket are opposite since it's not only for just subaru. Notice how the dirt is on top, meaning the airflow goes top to bottom so face downwarss.
Well done video and straight to the point! I particularly liked the reverse camera angle at the end where you got a close-up of how the glove box mounts by clipping onto the pivot points. Good job & thanks!
2 things. First of all, you don't have to empty the glove box to remove or reinstall it. Just don't tip it or turn it upside down and you'll be fine. As a mechanic, some customers might not like you rifling through their stuff, and you just might be accused of taking or breaking something if they know you jacked with their personal stuff. Second, it really isn't a big deal which way the filter goes. It will trap dirt and debris regardless of which way you put it in. My replacement, when put up next to the factory original filter, had the air flow just opposite of the original, if you took into consideration of how the orientation of the folds ended on the SIDES of the 2 filters. And BTW, the charcoal filter media looked exactly the same on both sides of both filters, so I really don't believe dirt and debris can defeat the filter's purpose. IMHO. Good video though!
Oryginal Subaru filter should be installed with arrow up as it is not showing the air flow but direction of mounting. Arrows in aftermarket filters like Fram show airflow direction. Since all the dirt is on the top of the filter the airflow is from top of dash to the bottom so the arrow should be pointing down.
I hate to mention this, but the air filter arrow was marked AIRFLOW, not UP. Since the dirt on the old air filter was on the top, AIRFLOW went from top to bottom, then through the fan and through the exhaust ducts to the cabin. Additionally, this was a charcoal filter, so the inbound air SHOULD hit the media first, then goes through the charcoal. He installed the filter with the charcoal up and media down. Sorry, but this video is a FAIL, other than how to get to the filter. Additionally, prior to a filter change, you should open the hood, remove any debris from the initial air intakes, run the fan for a few minutes to get any disturbed debris into the old filter, and then remove the filter. Also take a good look with the filter out and remove any pine needles or leaves that have the potential to drop into the fan.
742East3rd Yes, the arrow indicates the direction of airflow. I was mistaken by thinking that the arrow indicated the up-side of the filter. Point your arrow down when installing the filter.
I had to read the manual to find out where the cabin air filter was located and now that I found out where it's at thanks to you, I was pretty leary of taking the whole glovebox out in order to get to the access panel for the filter the whole reason I looked this up was to locate where the filter access panal was and now that I know where it is (theaccess panal for the filter) I'll leave it up to the dealer to get to the panal and yes I'm still very leary of pulling the glovebox 😡😠..!! better safe than sorry I always say 😐☺😊😆😅..!!
You placed the AirFilter the wrong way. The instructions from Fram CF10285 said, place into place with the arrows facing down. I asked my Subaru dealer, and they said the same thing, arrows goes down, that the air flow.
Ben You're absolutely correct and many people have pointed it out already. I've annotated the video to let people know it's put in upside down. Thanks for watching!
Thanks so much...I did not want to force that long arm thing but will give it another try! Is there a reason you did not use the subaru filter part? Is one better than the other?
Sorry for the late reply. Cost was the issue for me. I've used the Fram on my other vehicles and it's been fine for me. The pleat count is nearly identical and the fit is perfect. Whether I use the genuine or aftermarket, they are both going to get dirty, and it is my opinion that replacing the filters when recommended is more important.
I was getting my Subaru serviced at dealership one day and while in waiting room the tech brought out my dirty cabin filter and asked if I wanted it changed. I asked how much and it was some ridiculous cost. I said no but later I thought if I ever go there again and same thing happens I will say let me look at this, then whip a new one out of my briefcase and say yeah, go ahead and put this one back in as it will save you from touching a dirty air filter. Then i'lll take the dirty one home with me in a sealed freezer bag. Maybe some day.
My dealer wants $32 to replace this filter. And they recommend replacing EVERY year. Maybe I'll just look at it every year and replace it when it needs it.
trouble is, you covered with your hand as you "popped out" that little hinge--could not see if you twisted it, pushed it, pulled it. Mine seems pretty damn tight, fingers can't budge it. A little more would have helped, a lot. But thanks for giving me a start.
+Ryan Beers The '14 is 4th gen and '15 is 5th gen so it's not exactly the same. But should be similar. I would refer to another TH-cam video showing you the procedure for your specific vehicle. Also, don't be scared. It's a simple operation. DIY and save a ton of money. My dealership wanted $50 for what costed me $12 and 10 minutes.
I broke one of the hinge brackets on my 2010 Forester. They are so cheap. Be extra careful at removing anything. I just left mine broken. We traded it for a 2015 five years later anyways. Read theanual or instructions on the new filter. Look people, after market may be different than OEM . Always read the directions, not what people say. EVER.
1. the cabin air filter was installed upside down; 2. the pleats of the filter itself is too sparse, looks like only 14 or 15 pleats, making the filtration area not large enough, resulted in a reduced lifespan. Also, the filter material looks too thick, might cause dramatic air flow restriction.
The air filter should be installed with the arrow pointing DOWN. (Not “up” as shown in the video.)
I was going to say..... Air Flow is downwards.
Yes nice video except the filter was installed upside down. While you have the filter out take a few seconds with your shop vac and clean it out.
You guys have made me an expert on this topic. First I saw the video and made the arrow on the filter face UP. Then I read the comments , did it all again and made the arrow face down. THEN I read the MANUAL and if you look at Chapter 4 page 12 and 13 you will see: "CAUTION: make sure the arrow faces UP"!
Very true… but some aftermarket filters need the arrows in the opposite direction. 🤪
Yes on stock oem filters, aftermarket are opposite since it's not only for just subaru. Notice how the dirt is on top, meaning the airflow goes top to bottom so face downwarss.
Well done video and straight to the point! I particularly liked the reverse camera angle at the end where you got a close-up of how the glove box mounts by clipping onto the pivot points. Good job & thanks!
2 things. First of all, you don't have to empty the glove box to remove or reinstall it. Just don't tip it or turn it upside down and you'll be fine. As a mechanic, some customers might not like you rifling through their stuff, and you just might be accused of taking or breaking something if they know you jacked with their personal stuff. Second, it really isn't a big deal which way the filter goes. It will trap dirt and debris regardless of which way you put it in. My replacement, when put up next to the factory original filter, had the air flow just opposite of the original, if you took into consideration of how the orientation of the folds ended on the SIDES of the 2 filters. And BTW, the charcoal filter media looked exactly the same on both sides of both filters, so I really don't believe dirt and debris can defeat the filter's purpose. IMHO. Good video though!
Thanks. Very helpful. No wonder I’ve sneezing a lot and my kids lately. LOL!!
Oryginal Subaru filter should be installed with arrow up as it is not showing the air flow but direction of mounting. Arrows in aftermarket filters like Fram show airflow direction. Since all the dirt is on the top of the filter the airflow is from top of dash to the bottom so the arrow should be pointing down.
Absolutely correct! 👍
I hate to mention this, but the air filter arrow was marked AIRFLOW, not UP. Since the dirt on the old air filter was on the top, AIRFLOW went from top to bottom, then through the fan and through the exhaust ducts to the cabin. Additionally, this was a charcoal filter, so the inbound air SHOULD hit the media first, then goes through the charcoal. He installed the filter with the charcoal up and media down. Sorry, but this video is a FAIL, other than how to get to the filter. Additionally, prior to a filter change, you should open the hood, remove any debris from the initial air intakes, run the fan for a few minutes to get any disturbed debris into the old filter, and then remove the filter. Also take a good look with the filter out and remove any pine needles or leaves that have the potential to drop into the fan.
You're absolutely correct.
Ditto....the filter is upside down. The filter cover indicates UP but that is for the filter cover when being replaced.
742East3rd Yes, the arrow indicates the direction of airflow. I was mistaken by thinking that the arrow indicated the up-side of the filter. Point your arrow down when installing the filter.
The OEM filter from Subaru has an arrow pointing up to the side that should be up.
The oem filter had the arrow up when i pulled it out and replaced it
Very helpful video. I followed the same exact procedure on my 2014 Subaru Legacy to replace the cabin air filter.
This was helpful. Thank you. Stupid dealer wanted $95 to do this. Pfft.
Great video! BTW, you put it in upside down... The air flow is top to bottom.
I had to read the manual to find out where the cabin air filter was located and now that I found out where it's at thanks to you, I was pretty leary of taking the whole glovebox out in order to get to the access panel for the filter the whole reason I looked this up was to locate where the filter access panal was and now that I know where it is (theaccess panal for the filter) I'll leave it up to the dealer to get to the panal and yes I'm still very leary of pulling the glovebox 😡😠..!! better safe than sorry I always say 😐☺😊😆😅..!!
Thanks for posting. The walkthrough helped!
You placed the AirFilter the wrong way. The instructions from Fram CF10285 said, place into place with the arrows facing down. I asked my Subaru dealer, and they said the same thing, arrows goes down, that the air flow.
Ben You're absolutely correct and many people have pointed it out already. I've annotated the video to let people know it's put in upside down. Thanks for watching!
Don't feel bad, the Firestone service technician who installed the last air filter in my Subaru installed it upside down too.
Lol.
Thank you. Helped me out.
Glad it helped
Straightforward, thanks!
Thanks so much...I did not want to force that long arm thing but will give it another try!
Is there a reason you did not use the subaru filter part? Is one better than the other?
Sorry for the late reply. Cost was the issue for me. I've used the Fram on my other vehicles and it's been fine for me. The pleat count is nearly identical and the fit is perfect. Whether I use the genuine or aftermarket, they are both going to get dirty, and it is my opinion that replacing the filters when recommended is more important.
I was getting my Subaru serviced at dealership one day and while in waiting room the tech brought out my dirty cabin filter and asked if I wanted it changed. I asked how much and it was some ridiculous cost. I said no but later I thought if I ever go there again and same thing happens I will say let me look at this, then whip a new one out of my briefcase and say yeah, go ahead and put this one back in as it will save you from touching a dirty air filter. Then i'lll take the dirty one home with me in a sealed freezer bag. Maybe some day.
Lol!!! 😂😂😂
I wonder how much they want for the OEM filter at the Subaru shop? The FRAM is about $18.95 at Walmart. More at Pep Boys or Auto Zone.
The price fluctuates on Amazon. I stocked up when they dipped down to ~$10.50 - amzn.to/2iB0XgM
My dealer wants $32 to replace this filter. And they recommend replacing EVERY year. Maybe I'll just look at it every year and replace it when it needs it.
OEM- ARROW UP
aftermarket- arrow points down
trouble is, you covered with your hand as you "popped out" that little hinge--could not see if you twisted it, pushed it, pulled it. Mine seems pretty damn tight, fingers can't budge it. A little more would have helped, a lot. But thanks for giving me a start.
one thing that wasnt clear is that when you disconnect the glove box you pull UP to disengage the connectors.
Thanks for sharing👍
theprocedure is pretty similar on a 2014 outback correct 😮😗😟😦😯 or no..??
+Ryan Beers The '14 is 4th gen and '15 is 5th gen so it's not exactly the same. But should be similar. I would refer to another TH-cam video showing you the procedure for your specific vehicle. Also, don't be scared. It's a simple operation. DIY and save a ton of money. My dealership wanted $50 for what costed me $12 and 10 minutes.
I broke one of the hinge brackets on my 2010 Forester. They are so cheap. Be extra careful at removing anything. I just left mine broken. We traded it for a 2015 five years later anyways. Read theanual or instructions on the new filter. Look people, after market may be different than OEM . Always read the directions, not what people say. EVER.
1. the cabin air filter was installed upside down; 2. the pleats of the filter itself is too sparse, looks like only 14 or 15 pleats, making the filtration area not large enough, resulted in a reduced lifespan. Also, the filter material looks too thick, might cause dramatic air flow restriction.
Good points. 👍
Thank you!
I think your air flow direction is not correct from the way you put in. You should let the air flow from top to bottom. Nice video though.
I can’t detach the clips
Was I supposed to know there was a filter here?
You put it in with airflow wrong. Air flows down
Yes, true.
Misleading information, avoid such "specialists"
Thanks, but you lost me at the Hobby Lobby bag.
Do liberals have to virus signal all the time?! Did the Chic Fil A wrapper trigger you, too?
hobby lobby bad
Seems like a poor design by Subaru
Eh, I don’t mind.