I own a Triumph and used to love Triumph as a company but they stopped innovating long time ago, instead they promote and focus on bling & colours. These bikes deserve more.
That’s ridiculous- they absolutely innovate: the scrambler, the new speed triple RR, the street triple RS, and now pushing into dual sport and dirt bikes - the quality is the best in the business
One of the reasons the emission regs. make bikes jerky is the low inertia of engine parts compared to car engines so reducing the inertia in the engine and the air injection system combined sounds like a disaster.
Triumph how can I purchase one of your bikes when your customer service stinks, your company refuses to address the down shifting transmission problems many Triumph owners have experienced and posted on you tube. If you can't stand behind your product how do you expect somebody to feel confident in buying your product. So Triumph, your proud that you have kept one British employee pinstriping tanks and fired thousands of British workers and move your production to Thailand. You must be so proud to keep the Heritage alive.
My new Bonny 1200 is a superb looking bike with many compliments from people when I’m out on it, the finish on it is second to none, but come on Triumph why the bloody hell have you done away with the centre stand how tight can you get, it’s a pain in the arse to oil the chain without it, I’ve now had to shelve out £220 to get one fitted, it’s a retro bike and so should have one as standard especially as the bike is a bit on top price wise in the first place.
If they would have address these problems and fixed these problems, I'd be down at my dealer purchasing one right now. But how can I trust a company who will not stand behind their product, we all know that companies can have design flaws. All we ask is that a company recognizes a design flaw and fixes it so we can feel confident. Ignoring the problem does not make it go away.
@@markkulyas2418 I totally agree that is why I sold my 2017 T120. Triumph issued a TSB for the shifter issue with a part number but refuse to recognize there is problem. After being a Triumph rider for 45 years it was time to say goodby for good.
@@marcbranchaud4408 I called my local Triumph dealership and ask them if there was a TSB issued on these bikes, they had no clue what I was talking about. I also tried to have a conversation with the service manager about the transmission problems being reported on TH-cam and his response was that they never heard of these problems, but he did say their Transmissions are bulletproof. Even my local Triumph dealerships are going to pretend that there isn't a problem. What I want to know as a consumer from Triumph is what year bikes are affected and what year bikes are safe to buy, or did they even fix the problem,
@@markkulyas2418 if there wasn’t a problem why would they have a replacement kit for the gear selector mechanism issued under technical bulletin 197 09.2019
Did anyone notice that they traded cruise control for the heated grips? I´d rather go with the old model. Who needs cruise control anyways? I´m disappointed. I´ll keep my 2020 bobber black then.
trueish... you could have made a better street cup starting with a street twin than triumph did with the cup. i did start my build with the cup because i got a good deal on it... but there is alot to do. i had the silver one with the ugly golden stripe on the rims and the unsexy paint job. after the street twin conversion buld i can say i should have started with a street twin, moneywise :)
Felicidades, gran adquisición, yo tengo la continental y es una chulada, efectivamente es pesada pero ese peso te da un gran aplomo cuando vas en carretera a alta velocidad, y como bien lo dices, en los caminos todo mundo te abre paso como pasa con las motos grandes, no hay semáforo en el que todos se quedan apreciando tu máquina.
Great! Is just bought my 2016 Street Twin and I’m in love. Triumph made a really good job! Great bikes, really easy to ride and very fun to customize. Good to see how they still improving this bikes, making it better without loosing the classic style.
In the guise of a hope I posted an opinion a few days ago. Sadly, this reveal is a tad disappointing. However, my point is validated at the 2:00 mark when the iconic T120 of the sixties is referenced. It’s easy to see what makes that bike so aesthetically sound is how Triumph (and many bikes of the era) eliminated or hid the tank’s pinch weld. Take a look at that bike’s lines, and then look at the tank on the present T120’s - doesn’t the cheap to produce pinch-weld make them look like a tin toy? Just me? I think not . . .
You sir hit the nail right on the head, that pinched seem tank ruins the entire look of the bike and makes it look so cheap. I can't believe the Triumphs Engineers can't see that.
After reviewing the new T120 updates, I realized the real reason why the bike is 15lbs lighter. They added cruise as standard, but made the heated grips optional. The center stand is gone too, it's now an optional accessory and so is the once standard equipment chrome grab rail. Price has gone up as well. What a disappointment. So glad I bought my 2020 Diamond Edition when I did.
Hey official triumph spokesman - what are those boots?? They look bomb! I want em.. great bikes- I am totally satisfied and in love with my ‘18 Speedmaster - it was a spontaneous buy after being lured in by a Bobber - can’t wait till it warms up to get riding again!
Goes to demonstrate what a styling masterpiece the 1960s Triumphs really are...because every year, Triumph makes the new bikes look more and more like the originals.
The show-stopper for me with modern Bonnie is the 270 degree crank. Sounds nice but just like a 90 degree V-twin, which shares the same firing sequence. If you're pedalling heritage then you need the right sound. Traditional British twins and the earlier Hinckley Bonnies were 360 degree phased, lumpy but with that gorgeous smooth parallel twin sound. It was the same with Laverda and even the much-respected Yamaha XS650.
Just one way to keep the price down and affordable, and they know they will make double the profit on selling you all the accessories that should have came with the bike after the sale.
Love the bikes i have owned an explorer, tiger and speedmaster . My only reservation is the amount Triumph charge for accessories. Also why is a comfort seat an accessory!!!
Some lessons learned for the Bobber Black....there is now the same tank volume than the Speedmaster and they changed the front cartridge.... Some improvements.... at least. :-)
I think Speed twin is from Thruxton family, not exactly Boneville family. The T120 motor is stronger, the chassis is different, the tires, suspension...
@@larrynorsworthy8582 Haha. I’ve had my eye on Triumph since 2016 when the street twin was announced for the first time. I instantly fell in love with the retro style. I don’t like those typical R6, cbr300 etc type of bikes.
@@JohnKExp I love sport bikes too. In fact, I love all bikes. But, I am most satisfied with my Triumph street twin. It's the best all rounder except for off-road. Then my KTM steps in.
some very minor updates (happy about brembos on the t100), maybe an article with pictures would have saved you and us quite some time for the same result ;)
Triumph, Plz bring back the Daytona 675r. That handling, the look, the specs. Those headlights, oooooh. It was the perfect motorcycle. even if all you do is put fairings on the street triple I'll take it, and you'll probably make millions.
@@johncondron8880 How long ago was that? Coz the factories (apart from R&D one which has a corner for TFC models which are ASSEMBLED there from Thai parts) are gone - the tooling was sold at auction last August! No Triumph models are made in the UK. The TFC models are merely bolted together and custom options added - just bike a bike being delivered and PDI'd at a dealer.
@@johncondron8880 There you go then - 2019 - Mid 2020 onwards all UK production stopped - only TFC models are assembled in the UK now. The last remaining factory is predominantly for R&D/prototyping and assembling TFCs. There are no more Triumph models manufactured in the UK.
great upgrade of most of "modern classics" motorcycles. suprised to see that other ones (Street Scrambler, Scrambler, Speed Twin,...) not (yet ?) concerned by this upgrade.
Купил себе в конце прошлого сезона Scrambler. Минимум год можно будет покататься, до обновления - это хорошо :) Speedmaster и Bobber великолепны. Похоже, что линейка Bonneville практически оптимальна и обновления в ней будут небольшими эволюционными без добавления чего-то прям совсем нового - каждый год по какой-нибудь новой примочке, желательно с возможностью апгрейда предыдущих поколений. Я бы сказал, что это скорее хорошо.
When you rolled the first lot off and I heard the second lot coming in, I was really expecting a Bonneville TFC to roll in... Sigh. Just more bikes with accessories on them.
Why not a Thunderbird LT 😭? Have been waiting for Triumph Thunderbird for so long years but still more waiting..! Hope the Bonneville this year would look bigger than RE Interceptor 650😁😉
Love the T120 Black. Excellent presentation, but i find it very strange and disappointing that they did not even mention the omission of the Speed Twin. Surely, they knew everyone would be keen to see an update on this world class leader - i was so hoping to see a Speed Twin Matt Black Edition (with spoke wheels upgrade option) Maybe in 2022.
sorry Triumph but you're fast disappearing up your own chuffer - and i say that as a proud trident (1999) owner. you're more of a lifestyle outfit now. i understand why but not for me so i'll stick to my beloved trident
Bonnie product team, there better be smthg meaty to upgrade my t100👍 .. get rid of those phantoms first up .. n main focus hopefully is on comfort, performance n reliability.
So if I understand this correctly, it would appear that Triumph have dropped the original Bobber (single front disc & 19 inch wheel) completely from the range and replaced it with a Bobber Black that they've fitted a Speedmaster tank to ?
@@irfanabdulwahid8594 If you mean a 2017 Bobber would be worth more now then in theory you would be correct. However, the market place is awash with used Bobbers and the supply is outstripping the demand
I love my 2019 Bobber Black, 2019 America, 1974 Trident and my first, 1965 Bonneville.....I bought them all new and still have them
I own a Triumph and used to love Triumph as a company but they stopped innovating long time ago, instead they promote and focus on bling & colours. These bikes deserve more.
That’s ridiculous- they absolutely innovate: the scrambler, the new speed triple RR, the street triple RS, and now pushing into dual sport and dirt bikes - the quality is the best in the business
Love the new Street Twin Special Edition option! The artwork is iconic. Well done Triumph!
One of the reasons the emission regs. make bikes jerky is the low inertia of engine parts compared to car engines so reducing the inertia in the engine and the air injection system combined sounds like a disaster.
Congrats again Triumph! Amazing job u have done
Gary is a legend and an absolute highlight! 👍🥇 Brilliant heritage!
Fantastic my dream bike. I will definitely buy one one day. Awaiting that day egorly.
最高でした！
今のスクランブラーから乗り換えるなら、やっぱりまたボンネビルシリーズかな。
t120にいつかは乗ってみたい！
Triumph how can I purchase one of your bikes when your customer service stinks, your company refuses to address the down shifting transmission problems many Triumph owners have experienced and posted on you tube. If you can't stand behind your product how do you expect somebody to feel confident in buying your product.
So Triumph, your proud that you have kept one British employee pinstriping tanks and fired thousands of British workers and move your production to Thailand. You must be so proud to keep the Heritage alive.
Excited to see these, I love my Street Twin & wonder what you have done to the rest of the range too :)
Street Twin over on my channel, now! More Bonnevilles coming T100 this Sunday and T120 later in July.
My new Bonny 1200 is a superb looking bike with many compliments from people when I’m out on it, the finish on it is second to none, but come on Triumph why the bloody hell have you done away with the centre stand how tight can you get, it’s a pain in the arse to oil the chain without it, I’ve now had to shelve out £220 to get one fitted, it’s a retro bike and so should have one as standard especially as the bike is a bit on top price wise in the first place.
Nice upgrades on T120 cruise control and brakes but what about the issues with fogging gauges and gear selector shaft?
If they would have address these problems and fixed these problems, I'd be down at my dealer purchasing one right now. But how can I trust a company who will not stand behind their product, we all know that companies can have design flaws. All we ask is that a company recognizes a design flaw and fixes it so we can feel confident. Ignoring the problem does not make it go away.
@@markkulyas2418 I totally agree that is why I sold my 2017 T120. Triumph issued a TSB for the shifter issue with a part number but refuse to recognize there is problem. After being a Triumph rider for 45 years it was time to say goodby for good.
@@marcbranchaud4408 I called my local Triumph dealership and ask them if there was a TSB issued on these bikes, they had no clue what I was talking about. I also tried to have a conversation with the service manager about the transmission problems being reported on TH-cam and his response was that they never heard of these problems, but he did say their Transmissions are bulletproof.
Even my local Triumph dealerships are going to pretend that there isn't a problem. What I want to know as a consumer from Triumph is what year bikes are affected and what year bikes are safe to buy, or did they even fix the problem,
@@markkulyas2418 if there wasn’t a problem why would they have a replacement kit for the gear selector mechanism issued under technical bulletin 197 09.2019
Did anyone notice that they traded cruise control for the heated grips? I´d rather go with the old model. Who needs cruise control anyways? I´m disappointed. I´ll keep my 2020 bobber black then.
The original 1959 Bonneville was a tuned up Tiger 110 ! (twin carbs if memory serves me correct)
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Bring the Street Cup back, please. It was a Street Twin with a beautifull double cluster and different style
It didn't sell.
@@tsmgguy That's true. I just want the double cluster and spoked wheels.
trueish... you could have made a better street cup starting with a street twin than triumph did with the cup. i did start my build with the cup because i got a good deal on it... but there is alot to do. i had the silver one with the ugly golden stripe on the rims and the unsexy paint job. after the street twin conversion buld i can say i should have started with a street twin, moneywise :)
Felicidades, gran adquisición, yo tengo la continental y es una chulada, efectivamente es pesada pero ese peso te da un gran aplomo cuando vas en carretera a alta velocidad, y como bien lo dices, en los caminos todo mundo te abre paso como pasa con las motos grandes, no hay semáforo en el que todos se quedan apreciando tu máquina.
Great! Is just bought my 2016 Street Twin and I’m in love. Triumph made a really good job! Great bikes, really easy to ride and very fun to customize. Good to see how they still improving this bikes, making it better without loosing the classic style.
In the guise of a hope I posted an opinion a few days ago. Sadly, this reveal is a tad disappointing. However, my point is validated at the 2:00 mark when the iconic T120 of the sixties is referenced. It’s easy to see what makes that bike so aesthetically sound is how Triumph (and many bikes of the era) eliminated or hid the tank’s pinch weld. Take a look at that bike’s lines, and then look at the tank on the present T120’s - doesn’t the cheap to produce pinch-weld make them look like a tin toy? Just me? I think not . . .
You sir hit the nail right on the head, that pinched seem tank ruins the entire look of the bike and makes it look so cheap. I can't believe the Triumphs Engineers can't see that.
After reviewing the new T120 updates, I realized the real reason why the bike is 15lbs lighter.
They added cruise as standard, but made the heated grips optional. The center stand is gone too, it's now an optional accessory and so is the once standard equipment chrome grab rail. Price has gone up as well.
What a disappointment.
So glad I bought my 2020 Diamond Edition when I did.
Excellent review on 2021 Triumph bikes👍
Well done Triumph!
Can't wait to see the beauties ❤️
I was hoping for a Speed Twin R with the suspension, wheels & brakes from the Thruxton TFC but done all in black ... Oh well. Never mind !
Me too.
Great idea
Speed twin, Thruxton are not from Bonneville family
@@pratik.jaiswar I think you will find they are
@@paulharrison8155 unless you forcibly want to
The alloy rims, standard cruise control, and Brembo brakes really welcome on the 2021 T120.
Hey official triumph spokesman - what are those boots?? They look bomb! I want em.. great bikes- I am totally satisfied and in love with my ‘18 Speedmaster - it was a spontaneous buy after being lured in by a Bobber - can’t wait till it warms up to get riding again!
Was hoping you guys will bring back the speed twin
It never went away. New updates coming soon.
@@fyorbane it does not show on the india website after the new emission rules.. so I was hoping it came back with the updated engines..
Looks like I have to keep waiting Speed Twin get updated with full LED headlight and cruise control.
In the same boat here
Goes to demonstrate what a styling masterpiece the 1960s Triumphs really are...because every year, Triumph makes the new bikes look more and more like the originals.
I can't wait to see what is coming!
The show-stopper for me with modern Bonnie is the 270 degree crank. Sounds nice but just like a 90 degree V-twin, which shares the same firing sequence. If you're pedalling heritage then you need the right sound. Traditional British twins and the earlier Hinckley Bonnies were 360 degree phased, lumpy but with that gorgeous smooth parallel twin sound. It was the same with Laverda and even the much-respected Yamaha XS650.
15:02 royal enfields also have those hand made lines .....these people just sells everything which is very ordinary
Why should a centre stand be an optional accessory?
weight savings, presumably. or for sales.. I mean, why are iphones shipping without a power brick these days?
Just one way to keep the price down and affordable, and they know they will make double the profit on selling you all the accessories that should have came with the bike after the sale.
We are so excited to see these new bikes!
Love the bikes i have owned an explorer, tiger and speedmaster . My only reservation is the amount Triumph charge for accessories. Also why is a comfort seat an accessory!!!
Some lessons learned for the Bobber Black....there is now the same tank volume than the Speedmaster and they changed the front cartridge.... Some improvements.... at least. :-)
Any update on the speed twin. I can't see to get one recently 😠 sad times.
Update for the Speed Twin coming soon.
I think Speed twin is from Thruxton family, not exactly Boneville family. The T120 motor is stronger, the chassis is different, the tires, suspension...
Thank You ✌️
I am soooooooo excited
Hoping to get my Motorcycle license this year. And the first bike I’ll get it a TRIUMPH!
You will love it. I have been riding for 50 years. I bought a street twin new in 2018. It's the easiest to ride bike out there.
@@larrynorsworthy8582 Thanks Larry!
@@JohnKExp you're welcome. And it goes pretty good also. I outran my oldest son on his fz8 on the dragons tail.
@@larrynorsworthy8582 Haha. I’ve had my eye on Triumph since 2016 when the street twin was announced for the first time. I instantly fell in love with the retro style. I don’t like those typical R6, cbr300 etc type of bikes.
@@JohnKExp I love sport bikes too. In fact, I love all bikes. But, I am most satisfied with my Triumph street twin. It's the best all rounder except for off-road. Then my KTM steps in.
Speed Twin doesn't seem to be in shadow there. Fingers crossed.
some very minor updates (happy about brembos on the t100), maybe an article with pictures would have saved you and us quite some time for the same result ;)
Amazing. I am very happy with mine.
Triumph,
Plz bring back the Daytona 675r. That handling, the look, the specs. Those headlights, oooooh. It was the perfect motorcycle. even if all you do is put fairings on the street triple I'll take it, and you'll probably make millions.
We done Thaiumph - now make them in England again and I might buy one.
I went to the UK and watched my bobber being built. Do your homework
@@johncondron8880 How long ago was that? Coz the factories (apart from R&D one which has a corner for TFC models which are ASSEMBLED there from Thai parts) are gone - the tooling was sold at auction last August! No Triumph models are made in the UK. The TFC models are merely bolted together and custom options added - just bike a bike being delivered and PDI'd at a dealer.
@@LondonSteveLee 2019
@@johncondron8880 There you go then - 2019 - Mid 2020 onwards all UK production stopped - only TFC models are assembled in the UK now. The last remaining factory is predominantly for R&D/prototyping and assembling TFCs. There are no more Triumph models manufactured in the UK.
great upgrade of most of "modern classics" motorcycles.
suprised to see that other ones (Street Scrambler, Scrambler, Speed Twin,...) not (yet ?) concerned by this upgrade.
You should use only double clusters in all models except the the off road ones
I was here for the Street Twin.
I really wanted a duel tone black - grey paint on Street Twin.
Where is the Speed Twin?
all i wanna know is if the damn transmission issues have been fixed
I'm missing a Street Scrambler. Love to buy one, doesn't seem like I am going to any time soon.
Awesome bikes all of them. Too bad the bobber is for a solo ride only. Keep up the good work Triumph we support you...!!!
My dream bike hope one day I get to buy it 🥺🥺
Tubeless wire rims finally on the T120? Or at least an option maybe?
What happened with speed twin?
This will be the history in Bonneville
Love that the bobber has a new larger tank BUT can I at least gets a 4.5 gallon tank option
Tem previsão para a vinda da triumph speedmaster no Brasil?
Any update about thunderbird storm
I have seen a couple of Indian chappies pin striping the Royal Enfields, it certainly takes a talented craftsman.
I wonder if you can change the bars on the speedmaster
Купил себе в конце прошлого сезона Scrambler. Минимум год можно будет покататься, до обновления - это хорошо :)
Speedmaster и Bobber великолепны.
Похоже, что линейка Bonneville практически оптимальна и обновления в ней будут небольшими эволюционными без добавления чего-то прям совсем нового - каждый год по какой-нибудь новой примочке, желательно с возможностью апгрейда предыдущих поколений. Я бы сказал, что это скорее хорошо.
Ну вот у Scrambler должны быть новые цвета в 2021. Но пока только на бумаге
When you rolled the first lot off and I heard the second lot coming in, I was really expecting a Bonneville TFC to roll in... Sigh. Just more bikes with accessories on them.
I got a 1968 triumph t120r Bonnie
I love them all. The only issue is that they all should have LED lights.
Suggestion: please add brass or Gibson color front shock absorbers or Gibson color gas tank.
Great stuff👍🇬🇧🏁😎 TRIUMPH RULES!
Why not a Thunderbird LT 😭? Have been waiting for Triumph Thunderbird for so long years but still more waiting..! Hope the Bonneville this year would look bigger than RE Interceptor 650😁😉
Wow... no mention of the Speed Twin at all? Is it being discontinued? Why?
And the speed twin????!? 😱😭
Hope they don’t just update the bits most of us have swapped out/upgraded already...
One day I will buy it 🙂
Love the T120 Black. Excellent presentation, but i find it very strange and disappointing that they did not even mention the omission of the Speed Twin. Surely, they knew everyone would be keen to see an update on this world class leader - i was so hoping to see a Speed Twin Matt Black Edition (with spoke wheels upgrade option)
Maybe in 2022.
What about Scrambler1200?
Gerade vor 2 Monaten eine 12er Bonnnie gekauft.. und die neue Speed Triple bestellt, bin ja mal gespannt auf die neunen Bonnies :)
How do I have a 2022 Bobber?
Can't wait..👍❤️..
Where is the updated 2021 Speed Twin????
what about the speed twin
I like the T120 red and silver colour scheme, can we have something like that on the Speed Triple please ?
Those brembos look like an easy swap onto older liquid cooled bonnevilles 😄
Bobber T100 when? Also I’m guessing the scrambler and speed twin were left out because they’re already updated?
Have the heated grips been removed from standard on the T120?
Yes. So has the center stand, passenger grab bar, colored fenders and nicer tank paint scheme.
@@5150bwagner oh shit I didn't even notice the center stand. Uggghhh. Not sure it's worth paying extra when my local dealer still has 2020 models.
Muy bonitas todas.
NO VI LA STREET SCRAMBLER !!!! 😥
sorry Triumph but you're fast disappearing up your own chuffer - and i say that as a proud trident (1999) owner. you're more of a lifestyle outfit now. i understand why but not for me so i'll stick to my beloved trident
And the Speed Twin ?? I am waiting for EURO 5 version with some improvements
Why not speed twin
Speed Twin???
Let's GO!!!
Expected more, doesn't feel differend from previous year, atleast add a custom painted thruxton or something sigh.
T100 is terrible with all black motor looks cheep
Excited 😍🙋♂️
Looks awesome
Bonnie product team, there better be smthg meaty to upgrade my t100👍 .. get rid of those phantoms first up .. n main focus hopefully is on comfort, performance n reliability.
god yes, that's a terrible tire
So if I understand this correctly, it would appear that Triumph have dropped the original Bobber (single front disc & 19 inch wheel) completely from the range and replaced it with a Bobber Black that they've fitted a Speedmaster tank to ?
The original 2017 bobber is no more available. Is it? That would bring the price up for the existing owner.
@@irfanabdulwahid8594 If you mean a 2017 Bobber would be worth more now then in theory you would be correct. However, the market place is awash with used Bobbers and the supply is outstripping the demand
I actually recently got a t120 bonneville 2020
Consider yourself lucky, having heated grips. It seems Triumph cut them out on the new model! Who needs cruise control anyways?
Quando fiz o test rider na T120 fiquei apaixonado por ela
Will these be sold in India, if yes what will be the price scale?
Great ! But needed a speed twin update
Tell me there’s a tubeless rim offered for the T120. Everything else is just cosmetic
Yep, that is the only upgrade I want to make on my 2018 T120.
@@mesonto - i' wonder 'bout self cancelling indicators ❔
@@peterfallows6802 that's my next must have! I try to be a good rider, always, but I probably forget my flickers once out of every 25 times.
Speed twins is my dream
Where is the Triumph Speedmaster Black???
I hope they bring Thruxton 900 back
did not show the bikes much