Melee’s Secret Best Player

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ธ.ค. 2024

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  • @turndownforwalt
    @turndownforwalt  หลายเดือนก่อน +10

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  • @jsu9575m
    @jsu9575m หลายเดือนก่อน +252

    If you watch the full interviews from the Smash doc...it was said that Isai tried because the winner got a cape, and he wanted the cape

    • @adamsexton3687
      @adamsexton3687 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      I think it was more about the girl (Mel) than the cape… 😏

    • @MightGuy-e2u
      @MightGuy-e2u หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@adamsexton3687contexte please?

    • @jw7-g3e
      @jw7-g3e หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      The Cape stuff was speculation from another player. Ken said it was about a girl, Mel, as he's rocking the Tag. I'd take Ken's word for it as they were close.

    • @clem5419
      @clem5419 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jw7-g3e lol but the line about the cape is so funny and memorable

  • @justsomeguy7042
    @justsomeguy7042 หลายเดือนก่อน +129

    I remember Hugs telling a story that after MOAST 3. People started to think Isai winning was a fluke. At that point Isai had never beaten Chu dat, so he posted on smash boards “I will beat chu dat at mlg.” And then 3-0’d chu, just to let people know there’s no such thing as a fluke.

  • @ronthesleepyboi
    @ronthesleepyboi หลายเดือนก่อน +465

    Fun fact: the third wheel of this era, Azen, was briefly the best Mario Kart DS player in the world early into the game's lifespan, and, by briefly, I mean for literally less than a day

    • @henryreturns1397
      @henryreturns1397 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

      Azen was like a beast on other games , like he could pick any "video game" and dedicate time into it and can become a beast.

    • @ln8496
      @ln8496 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Zgetto was the best at that and he was a top eu fox during like 09-011

    • @heyitsmort7744
      @heyitsmort7744 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lfg

    • @adamsexton3687
      @adamsexton3687 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Azen Zagenite… ran into him online and he was so fast I thought he was cheating. 😭

    • @gooby8329
      @gooby8329 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I had top 10 times on 2 separate tracks for about 3 months, but was mediocre at every other track. Yoshi falls and SNES ghost valley
      Usually finished 2nd or 3rd in online lobbies on other tracks

  • @Eiji475
    @Eiji475 หลายเดือนก่อน +285

    I love that Isai still competes in 64. Its nice hes still around.

    • @MrSlowpez10
      @MrSlowpez10 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

      Him winning SSC last year was insane to watch. Felt good to see him win again

    • @meee_5155
      @meee_5155 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Do you know if he is still good?

    • @ssbm-icarus
      @ssbm-icarus หลายเดือนก่อน

      Won ssc last year, so i would say so ​@@meee_5155

    • @flyingbutterrr
      @flyingbutterrr หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      @@meee_5155he’s in contention for GOAT in 64

    • @SuperCrazyfin
      @SuperCrazyfin หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@meee_5155 Give his games a watch!

  • @caleb1758
    @caleb1758 หลายเดือนก่อน +255

    I will always be blown away by the production quality of TDFW videos.

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  หลายเดือนก่อน +49

      Really means a lot. I hope I can keep on impressing!

    • @yasushix3672
      @yasushix3672 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It's all about the passion

  • @forstaken2254
    @forstaken2254 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    Isai was such a beast. He was the only player in 2005 to take tournaments off Ken. Without these losses, Ken would've had a flawless year.

  • @shzinprobably4663
    @shzinprobably4663 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    Isai if he tried is such a funny meme but it really is crazy he was this gifted at the game but couldn’t enjoy it as much as he enjoys 64

  • @Bludgeoned2DEATH2
    @Bludgeoned2DEATH2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    “Anachronistic tech” is the perfect description for just how far ahead Isai was during his time.

  • @namenamename390
    @namenamename390 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    Walt really said "What if Lemmino, but Melee?"

  • @LightsOutAce1
    @LightsOutAce1 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    The scene in the original smash doc where they say "Mel was watching...and Isai went super Saiyan" and somehow the line wasn't cheesy at all and made me tear up

  • @Nintendofan184
    @Nintendofan184 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    Thank you for covering the old days, I find them so interesting

  • @Jifry
    @Jifry หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    AN ISAI (and Ken!) DOCUMENTARY IN 2024!? I never expected another well put together video about this specific part of the golden age of melee. Isai is one of my fav players, he's got this intriguing aura to him. I really loved that documentary about him, super cool. :O

  • @Chizypuff
    @Chizypuff หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Dude the combo Isai starts at 6:17 is dope

    • @guitar1104
      @guitar1104 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Reverse bair -> upair -> edgecancel -> dair. Sick startup even for today. What a beast

  • @stephanmirkovic9868
    @stephanmirkovic9868 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    My boy Brent D. Vickers killin’ it on the script here

    • @brentos78
      @brentos78 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      🙏🤙

  • @fisherOD
    @fisherOD หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    Walt’s selection of music is just so crisp and amazing most of em are on my playlist.

    • @GanonAutumn777
      @GanonAutumn777 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Whats the track used at the beginning?i tried following the link in the description but i couldnt find it x.x

    • @fisherOD
      @fisherOD หลายเดือนก่อน

      @GanonAutumn777 it’s called firecracker by Lemmino everything’s in the description btw

    • @fisherOD
      @fisherOD หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GanonAutumn777it’s called firecracker by lemmino

    • @GanonAutumn777
      @GanonAutumn777 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @fisherOD thank you

    • @fisherOD
      @fisherOD หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@GanonAutumn777 you’re welcome

  • @cloudsevenlaser1646
    @cloudsevenlaser1646 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Thank you so much for this. Isai has always been one of my favorite players and stories. So I'm so happy you made a documentary about him

  • @itsbmeGaming
    @itsbmeGaming หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It seems like yesterday but yet also feels like 100 years ago.
    Good stuff and keep up the content!

  • @bobveltman
    @bobveltman 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I just came back to that video because that intro is just so good The editing, the sound, the mood... very well done!

  • @roboticismRus
    @roboticismRus หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    you should link to samox and the smash documentary in the description. you gotta respect your elders.

  • @koca6685
    @koca6685 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Man the editing and storytelling in your videos is really good.

  • @_willianturner
    @_willianturner หลายเดือนก่อน

    The editing quality on this is just INSANE.

  • @legacytag
    @legacytag หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Random thought
    But it's crazy to think that both parts of Sephirothken's tag are now in Smash

    • @koitsuga
      @koitsuga หลายเดือนก่อน

      He's named after Ken from Survivor, not Ken from Street Fighter

  • @abandoned_green
    @abandoned_green หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Awesome video
    Could’ve used more breakdown on the actual matches, I feel like there was not enough time spent on his comeback in the gameplay sense
    Really amazing editing thiugh

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  หลายเดือนก่อน +29

      In fairness I tried to limit showing gameplay because it's literally in 240p and some people may not be able to understand what they're looking at LOL

    • @shabe99
      @shabe99 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@turndownforwalt i'm really hoping the community eventually figures out a tool besides frame by frame TASing to recreate old matches in HD. If I had infinite time I'd be doing a lot of that. We just need to make a tool that makes TASing much easier, and it feels like M-Ex has the pieces in place to make it happen.

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@shabe99 yeah, I had initially wanted to TAS a full HD remake of the set but it was just way too much work for way too little reward unfortunately. I actually don’t really know about M-Ex, I’ll have to check that out!

    • @shabe99
      @shabe99 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@turndownforwalt tbh i think we should try to get a community bounty/kickstarter going to make the tools. Like they figured out how to make all the crazy savestate DI editors and custom characters, in principle we can make a UI to TAS ingame and export to a slippi replay.

  • @awiseman93
    @awiseman93 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lovely video Walt. The content and writing is so clean and so precise great stuff.

  • @musketg2774
    @musketg2774 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the writing and production quality of this is insane. always a treat when you upload

  • @notspacegoat2000
    @notspacegoat2000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That thumbnail is hands down the sickest nastiest thumbnail art I've seen yet, shoutouts the the artist man I NEED more

  • @LaArcieroProfano
    @LaArcieroProfano หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome video about a Melee classic! Love all the different media references that show just how crazy Melee is

  • @Murks33
    @Murks33 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I thought the beginning sounded like a LEMMiNO video and lo' and behold, the track is indeed from a LEMMiNO video.

  • @firefly5564
    @firefly5564 หลายเดือนก่อน

    love the story telling in this, can't believe I can just watch something as beautiful as this on TH-cam

  • @meguy7735
    @meguy7735 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this channel is so goated. insane production and style. thanks for doing what you do.

  • @LilacAndPeriwinkle
    @LilacAndPeriwinkle หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    There are 3 guarantees in this world: death, taxes, and TDFW's videos being the best.

  • @MaximeDeflin
    @MaximeDeflin หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The amount of work put into this! 😱
    You're so talented, your team too. Thanks for this amazing video, love from France ❤

  • @adesn1
    @adesn1 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of the best melee videos ever, congrats!

  • @CallMeAGansterOfLove
    @CallMeAGansterOfLove หลายเดือนก่อน

    What in the ever loving style was that intro? That was so unbelievably above anything I could have previously conceived just wtf

  • @Luffy1923
    @Luffy1923 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Loved seeing Caveman in this video. Caveman is such an integral part of Melee history, and there is such little content about him. Would love to see a documentary about Caveman and the Smash capital of the world, Crystal City

  • @ByrneBaby
    @ByrneBaby หลายเดือนก่อน

    Those opening credits were amazing. Also shield dropping in 2004 is absolutely insane... Great documentary, man.

  • @Lanman106
    @Lanman106 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isai is my favorite smash player. He has such a fun legacy behind him. This mystic that never wears off IMO.

  • @uncledoggo
    @uncledoggo หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Loving the thumbnails they are very sick.

  • @NormalPunch-
    @NormalPunch- หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The production quality. Damn
    Great vid

  • @bdbruhderpi3861
    @bdbruhderpi3861 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    turn down for awlt

  • @SharurFoF
    @SharurFoF หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    "The best players are remembered... but legends never die."
    Follow your heart, kid, and you can never go wrong.

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You want me to whiff punish The Beast???

  • @ssjayy-xs5lh
    @ssjayy-xs5lh หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I actually can see that and heavily relate - I like to play games socially. If it's for myself, I lose interest quickly; but, if friends are involved, I'm a lot more engaged.
    I was a big Isai fan. I always cheered for the underdog and he made Falcon look so good in his prime.

  • @Dahxy
    @Dahxy หลายเดือนก่อน

    The real sidekick to Isai is MEL.
    Amazing video, keep this up man!!

  • @Buttons16
    @Buttons16 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isai is a Smash legend that will always be one of the greatest to ever do it. Mans deserves infinite respect

  • @Rpanda25
    @Rpanda25 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I wasn't in the scene during this time, but it's always fun to hear about old school legends!

  • @dudemann72
    @dudemann72 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Good shit man love your content
    You got me to play melee and I love you for it
    Thanks

  • @identity5481
    @identity5481 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    13:56 ONE PIECE MENTIONED !!

  • @Boppens-melee
    @Boppens-melee หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    BRO THE EDITING IS NUTS

  • @seeedey
    @seeedey หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Probably the best melee video I have ever seen

  • @Kayoh1122
    @Kayoh1122 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is what Melee should always be like. I miss the old days for sure.

  • @lauxneto
    @lauxneto หลายเดือนก่อน

    Another banger Walt, well fucking done. Watching this kind of videos always make me want to boot up and play some smash.

  • @incognitowastaken
    @incognitowastaken หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    another banger, as always

  • @danielvermontlopez8640
    @danielvermontlopez8640 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the first time I pause a video to click on the like button within the first 15 seconds. What an intro!

  • @drainstorM11
    @drainstorM11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Based on the thumbnail I've been eyeing all week, I assumed this was gonna be about how Wizzy is the best in the world right now

  • @F0rger513
    @F0rger513 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In LOTR I'd say Frodo and Sam are both sidekicks that are thrown into the hero role without knowing wtf is going on

  • @DonParra
    @DonParra หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a masterpiece Walt, it so good that looks like a movie

  • @rudrasingh9855
    @rudrasingh9855 หลายเดือนก่อน

    video quality is off the charts

  • @kishprime7719
    @kishprime7719 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My Isai story: At FCD, one of my Indianapolis locals came running up to me after a first-round set, screaming "I just beat Isai!" I tried to celebrate with him, then after he left rolled my eyes and went over to him and kind of chewed him out, saying he was screwing over players later in the tournament by fooling around early and getting lower seeds.
    Sure enough, next round he was in my pool as a low seed. To tell the truth, at this point I don't remember the exact words that we exchanged, but at the end of our set, where I put up a fight but he won 2-0, he said something to the extent of "this is what you wanted right?" and I answered, "yep!" He got the 2 seed in our pool under Vidjo, eliminating poor entering-2-seed Green Mario in the process, then went on to the third round where he tanked all of his matches while I went on to the final Top 32 bracket.
    Isai in a nutshell lol, always loved the dude but kind of a TO's nightmare.

  • @ummbr
    @ummbr หลายเดือนก่อน

    Awesome vid Walt! Keep up the excellent work!

  • @Scratchist
    @Scratchist หลายเดือนก่อน

    The joke about Ike is because of his quote in Fire Emblem Path of Radiance: "I fight for my friends"

  • @shengnyyj
    @shengnyyj หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    underated channel

  • @philiphunt-bull5817
    @philiphunt-bull5817 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10/10 thumbnail

  • @Estus5807
    @Estus5807 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I wished i've could witnessed this era of melee...

  • @adamsexton3687
    @adamsexton3687 หลายเดือนก่อน

    People don’t know this but the true source of power pushing both Ken and Isai was Mana Cloud.

  • @ImightwatchTheGodfather
    @ImightwatchTheGodfather หลายเดือนก่อน

    That intro was fantastic walt.

  • @dovesr0478
    @dovesr0478 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never forget that Isai was so good at Smash 64 that it took the rest of the field a decade to catch up

  • @silentwater9058
    @silentwater9058 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautifully documented. Isai the underrated goat🔥🔥

  • @AndresAndr95
    @AndresAndr95 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the beginning where your talking about side kicks made me think of MKBIGBOSS and how when MKLEO was doing super good he would bring him along and MKleo ended up picking up ROB to help because Bigboss was plateauing and honestly I thought he was going to be forgotten soon after then now Bigboss has awesome matches everytime and pretty much never gets washed and never goes out without a fight and he got much better everytime I see him!

  • @Wishael
    @Wishael หลายเดือนก่อน

    bro dropped a movie on halloween and thought we wouldnt notice

  • @Shmorpsy
    @Shmorpsy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Your videos are always so good!! you inspire me a lot

  • @Singleparentof20000
    @Singleparentof20000 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The doc already covered all this

  • @skayakitty625
    @skayakitty625 หลายเดือนก่อน

    INTRO IS SO CRISP🎉

  • @Chillgolfer9664
    @Chillgolfer9664 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have not heard 6 of the best players from the golden area in so long. Mainly the other three besides Ken, Isai, and Aden, plus there were Chillindude, Husband and Wife, Wes, and few other guys who were from east and West coast. I can’t pronounce since it sound like “the most” but a different word, but this was set in the grand finals, all the way back in early of 2005.

  • @DrDildus
    @DrDildus หลายเดือนก่อน

    We love a Big Trouble In Little China citation!
    Great vid Walt 👍

  • @fading-sun-studios
    @fading-sun-studios หลายเดือนก่อน

    looks like i am watching a well designed short film

  • @tashi321
    @tashi321 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    wasnt there some tourney where isai played with a tag that was a girls name and he like popped tf off? i forget which one that was at
    amazing video walt, truly wonderful content. never stop!!!

    • @brentos78
      @brentos78 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      You are correct! He wore the tag MEL. it was this exact tournament the video is about!

    • @tashi321
      @tashi321 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@brentos78 ah okay i didnt make the connection lol thanks for clearing that up!

  • @BigSpence225
    @BigSpence225 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice vid man, keep it up.

  • @lucastesting9612
    @lucastesting9612 หลายเดือนก่อน

    turn down for ult is the sidekick we need

  • @sprout_c06
    @sprout_c06 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is peak content

  • @MacAstraL
    @MacAstraL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really well done video. Do you watch rhystic study? You both have similar styles of video editing

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I've been a member of Sam's Patreon for a couple years now! He's a huge inspiration of mine!

    • @MacAstraL
      @MacAstraL หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@turndownforwalt his videos are great, i can definitely see the inspirations there

  • @riskybusinessish
    @riskybusinessish หลายเดือนก่อน

    isai is the most important person to ever play the game.

  • @goateeguy11221122
    @goateeguy11221122 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This kind of just felt like a retread of the key points from the Samox documentary, even missing some of the context from that video (that maybe it was because Isai wanted to win the cape that was a prize at that tournament). The production value is really good, and I want to keep seeing stuff from this channel, but I feel like it's a little bit of a waste using this very cool content making machine on stories that have already been told by someone else in ways that still hold up, especially with how ubiquitous the narratives of the Samox doc have become. I thought maybe this would challenge Samox's perspective or something, which I was excited for because I do think we're too uncritical of that single creator's point of view when considering our history. I would have been more excited for that kind of idea.

    • @turndownforwalt
      @turndownforwalt  หลายเดือนก่อน

      All very fair points! I’m not sure if you’re new to my channel, but this is part of a 10-part documentary series reviewing the best sets in Melee, so this was going to be covered no matter what. I don’t really think there’s another angle to what Travis had already presented in The Smash Brothers (especially in terms of just like, it being the same set), and I also don’t think someone already telling a story disqualifies others from covering the same topic, but I did lean pretty heavily into the hero/sidekick motif to try to give a more unique perspective. I hope that makes sense and thanks for the comment!

    • @goateeguy11221122
      @goateeguy11221122 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@turndownforwalt I wasn't aware it was a part of a series actually, thanks for that context. I'll definitely go check out the other installments

  • @seanmakesthings
    @seanmakesthings หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a hero and his sidekick, Shrek and Donkey 😎

  • @thelu5661
    @thelu5661 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im turning up for walt right now this was great!

  • @LuckyHamburger
    @LuckyHamburger หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:33 note that he's still the greatest 64 player of all time. Anyone who picks a different player is a fool.

  • @madeinshinea7371
    @madeinshinea7371 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the song at start of chapter 3 and 4?

  • @lgachaboyyt
    @lgachaboyyt หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isai was a time traveller

  • @Companion__
    @Companion__ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yooo, great topic already :D

  • @JMalaby89
    @JMalaby89 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is there perhaps a way there can be a link to the source of the footage you’re using at any given time? Maybe something in the video description crediting the source of your clips? Unless I’m missing something and there is and I’m just not seeing it lol

  • @xT0xicz0mbi3x
    @xT0xicz0mbi3x หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s insane how shit Ken is by todays standards but that’s just how far the game has come

  • @wesleymcbob
    @wesleymcbob หลายเดือนก่อน

    melee man, what a game

  • @ethanpritt542
    @ethanpritt542 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like I've seen this before!

  • @siancaz
    @siancaz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why didnt you tell them why he tried that one time?

  • @Migota_
    @Migota_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:27 I liked the little reference

  • @Birdup__
    @Birdup__ หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wow it’s my comfort TH-camr who is sponsored by intotheAM

  • @somebol9047
    @somebol9047 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ken was on Survivor he's my GOAT

  • @MrGetownedLP
    @MrGetownedLP หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sick vid Walt PogChamp

  • @faulx66
    @faulx66 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I JUST WOKE UP FROM A NAP DUDE HOW DID I SLEEP FOR FOUR HOURS?

  • @joelweber9900
    @joelweber9900 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good film walter