Old West Saddles
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- Saddles in the Era of Westward Expansion
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A Chinese bronze horse statue with a lead saddle, from the Han Dynasty (202 BC - 220 AD). |Source=Self-made at the Freer and Sackler Galleries, Washington D.C. |Date=June 29, 2008. |Author=User:PericlesofAthens
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Love the “Mexican” saddles (large horn), engravings and concho’s, sweet 👍🏼🤠
I use to have a western saddle I got at a yardsale for like 20 bucks ended up selling it for about 500 and getting myself a cap and ball revolver and a nice stake dinner
Oh yeah!
It's nice learning something new about the Old West every week, even when I'm late. I love leather saddles, holsters, etc.
Great show.
Glad!
I've been working on a fiction book set in the old west and your videos are always insightful. Thank you for such wonderful content!
Colly I'm happy to help!
How do you make a good book and get a actual book like frame? L8ke covers and not just paper?
@@jamesstuart5016Are you meaning a hard cover book? Most self piblished I've seen are just paperbacks and most are e-books now but I'm sure if you have the money, someone would do it. Do a search for self publishing. If you think it would sell, there's a process for getting a publisher to read it and decide if they would publish it. Can be tough to even get it looked at. Certain publishers mostly publish particular genres. There should be helpful articles online for free and several websites that charge to help you. I started the process, but decided the market I was looking at was too small. Keep thinking of trying again. Good luck.
Thanks again, Santee. Here's something interesting... Most people think Native Americans rode bareback or with just a blanket, but Apaches sometimes used small saddles stuffed with hair. I found this tidbit while doing research for one of my western novels.
Very cool! I learned something!
From what I can gather... Many Indians would use a saddle when they could get one... I once owned an original plains Indian saddle complete with turned rawhide stirrups... Most likely used in the early 20th Century... I saw it's mate on display once at the Smithsonian in D.C...
Come to think of it, I think I've seen a repro of something like that..
Hello Suzanne greetings from India uptill now I have only read louis la armour and j t Edson's western's came to know that you also write western novels that through Santee thanks to him can I get your novels in INDIA
Thanks for this tidbit. I just put the question to Santee about what was under the Indian blanket. Then found this Jewell in commits section.
Greetings from Ireland. Awesome bit of history, I can see that it's a very complicated subject.
Yeah! Man I re-wrote this one a few times. Thanks, Bernard.
"There is nothing better for the inside of a man, than the outside of a horse." George Patton
Cool quote!
I always heard that Robert E. Lee said that. He rode more horses than Patton. Although Patton's grandfather was a Confederate cavalryman and his McClellan saddle is in the Fort Knox Cav museum in Ky
@@markchoate9021 *Perhaps Patton "borrowed" that phrase.
Perhaps..... Great phrase and very true.
Thanks for yet another informative vid. Cowboys and their horses alike are undoubtedly more than grateful for better saddle tech.
Also, an appearance by 'Race Bannon' from one of the best cartoons in history. Top notch.👍
Thank you much.
You’re killing it Santee! What a great episode of Arizona ghost riders. On saddles of the old west. I only wish you were my history teacher in high school. Ha ha just kidding. You would’ve been probably a crappy teacher the one that I could hang out with in the bathroom and smoke cigarettes and blah blah blah. But I really do enjoy watching your channel. I think you do a great job of explaining Old west history.
Thank you. Much appreciated.
Short, sweet and to the point, yet chock full of historical information. I love the old West pictures.
Thanks, LF!
I had a retired saddlesmith build a copy of a pre-war Texas Half Seat. It is really comfortable
Cool!
Thanks for the quick rundown on some of the history of the western saddle. Entertaining and educational as usual, keep up the good work!
I really appreciate it, Andrew!
I use to buy 100 saddles a year to refurbish! Some once beautiful saddles left to the elements is why I began rebuilding most of them! Bought some in and around Tombstone! Most around southern Arizona!
CooL!
Great job as always sir. I did learn the names of the parts from this video and how long they have been around. Every saturday i learn something and i love it!
Very amazing video well done and I love listening to your videos as I am blind and I am a white cane long cane user
Mr. Santee thanks for including Vaqueros, Bass Reeves, and western firearms...
You are the best historian..
Aww, thanks.
Love all the horsing around!..lol 😂👍🏾😀❤️🇺🇸
Thanks!
Horse lovers are stable people.
Don't forget about the rex! 😆
Learned a lot. Gave me enough of a taste to go learn more on my own. Thanks!
The swells on the forks also helped if your horse was trying to part company with you. Squeezing your legs in the swells would help you hang on. Riders would also hook their spurs in the dees ( the cinch or cinch straps). When you are out on your own you can grab the apple but not if anyone sees you.
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Thanks Santee for another informative video.
My pleasure!
Loved this video! Lots of information!❤️🧑🌾🧑🌾
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I ALWAYS find your videos interesting and educational. Thank you Santee
Why thank you!
another great video thank you
You're welcome. Appreciate you watching.
always a good show and information! thanks Santee!
You're welcome RH!
Great video. I always learn something.
Fascinating! It’s so much more than just a place for your behind! Another excellent video!
LOL!
Your Videos are always so informative and fun to watch
I always learn something new from you Santee. Thanks for this and the one on the horses
Glad you enjoyed it
Mr Santee, I’ve been watching your videos for quite a while and I have enjoyed all of them, keep up the good work 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you very much!
Great episode, btw. Who doesn't love saddles.
Sold my saddles when I sold my horses. I was working too many hours and 6 - 7 days a week. Could never ride them. Had people breaking my fence or shooting wood posts and I was afraid they would get hit by a car or truck or get shot. I sold them to a horse buyer that promised to keep them together. He lied. I’ve been pissed at myself for selling them ever since. That was over 40 yrs ago.
Aww we all have that "Wish I hadn't sold that" story. But you have the memory of them, and that certainly counts.
Another excellent video
Glad you enjoyed it
Squeaky wheel gets the oil. 9 requests will do it. Glad he asked great topic.
The main problem with western saddles is that long tree. It's typically straight, which creates two pressure points at each end on the horse's back. A particularly badly fitting saddle can even cripple a horse.
English saddles have curved trees that fit the back along its entire length, which is why they have very thin pads, while western saddle pads are two inches thick.
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Great video. Loved the different saddles you displayed throughout the history of the frontier. Greetings from East Texas.
Much appreciated. Y'all stay safe out there...and eat barbecue.
@@ArizonaGhostriders you know I will. Nothing taste better then meat smoked to perfection
Thanks for taking the time always interesting and fun to watch
Much appreciated Bud Man
So true and that goes for ladies' too. Loved my two saddles and still have my western endurance saddle.
I bet it's a nice saddle.
Awesome job and thanks for the knowledge about saddles.
Thanks!
Another great vid. Keep'em coming. =)
Really good job as always 👌👌👌
So appreciate that.
awesome vid Cheese, thanks so much !!! Absolutely a topic I new nothing about before this morning !!
You are so welcome, Joe! Always appreciate your support.
I used to be a Jackaroo in Tamworth Australia, I used both a western saddle and a stock saddle which is probably closer to an English saddle, I found the Western pretty uncomfortable after a day in the saddle, the Stock Saddles where a lot more comfortable but perhaps not the best for a beginner as it didn't have the same surface are as a Western.
Neat info.
Another great video Santee.
Much appreciated.
@@ArizonaGhostriders Santee can you a video on base ball in the 19th century?
I started to in this video, but plan to go more in-depth.
th-cam.com/video/flGL37jZbis/w-d-xo.html
Wow cool, Red Dead Redemption 2 got it right! They've included a Vaquero, Mother Hubbard and McClelland saddle.
It appears so!
They're just missing the charro saddle. Which also come in different styles.
In going on 70 years of heartfelt love for all things from the Old west.
This one on on saddles is really interesting. I knew about the Spanish origin of the cowboy saddles, and the cavalry, and side saddle.But the one I'd like a historic peek at is under those Indian blankets in old western movies. I assume they were calvery saddles or what ever contraptions a thinking Native American could make up.
Good luck with figguring out a video on this one.
HA! I might be able to find some info on what was under those blankets on the Silver Screen.
Keep it up with the great videos
Thanks!
Great and informative!
Tapaderos were popular in military saddles to protect the feet in combat.
Cowboy saddles used them in heavy brush.
There were native American saddles that closely resembled the old Arab
saddles with a high A-shaped cantle and pommel.
Lots and lots of saddle tech out there
Congrats! You were able to say the closing line. Great channel Santee
Whew!
There were saddles in the 18 and 19th century in Mexico that had iron heads (what americans call horn) for heavy bull roping. There is evidence of this in Mexican early writings
Yes, that was a smart move on their part. Wood, I understand, could just break off.
The phrase 'take your dallies' that you hear in some cowboys songs comes from that Mexican heritage. In Spanish, 'da le vuelta', means 'give it a turn', or wrap the rope around the horn so as to hang on to the bull. It slowly became 'dallies' as Anglo cowboys picked up the idioms of cattle ranching.
My old home town of Walsall, England, makes some of the best Western saddles, which I'm told sell well in the States. The Queen rides a Walsall saddle too (NOT a Western one, sadly; but she gets her handbags (purses) from there too). And the town's Soccer team is nicknamed The Saddlers. Oh, I nearly forgot: a family of saddlers emigrated from Walsall to the US early in the 19th century. You might have heard of the -- the Earps; their grandson Wyatt made something of a reputation for himself.
Thanks for the added history from our UK side!
Thanks for the Information fellas
Yessir
Omg, I seen you comment on Hillybilly wines video and am so glad! I hope you remember me! I had another channel that I no longer have! This is my new channel! Made sure I pressed your RED button and tapped your bell! Great big Thumb's up
Will do!
Never knew there was a difference in saddles! Cool share!
Thanks!
Awesome facts as always we are here to support our TH-cam family with a massive likeee these saddle are awesome thanks for sharing and we hope to see you on Sunday night at 9 U.K. time 👍
Great video
Taps were made to keep the thick thorny brush off your boots same as chaps. Up north they are handy keeping your feet warm. They were not for the purpose of keeping your foot from sliding through the stirrup. Maybe only on kid saddles is this the purpose.
Sources say that one thing Tapaderos are for is to "keep the foot from sliding too far into the stirrup and therefore reduce the risk of getting caught and dragged if you fall off your horse" as well as Texan vaqueros who told me about them. So, all these things!
Loved the info as always. Saddle that I am mainly used to is the McClellan saddle since I rode Confederate Cavalry some. Great for the horse but not so much for the rider.
So I hear!
Love the information and comedy 🤣
Much appreciated.
My saddle is 1890s or older and it is the most comfortable saddle I ever been in
Cool!
you're not serious are ya..... ha ha .....never !!!!!! .great vid, loved the Monte Walsh bits,
Good!
YES YEESS I loved this video so much and thanks for a youtube idea
Yeeehaw!
Santee you never fail to make me smile! your videos never get old. Thanks for being awesome! One request, would you mind doing some more videos highlighting the women of the old west? Maybe some female outlaws and the general life of normal women of the period. I’d love to learn about this! X
Sure thing! Please also catch the one on the Role of the Pioneer Mother until I wrangle another victorian gal to do an interview.
I’ve seen that one already! Great video. Thanks Santee x
Charro saddles are the best
They are cool.
You should have had him ride Rex side saddle.😁
Bravo!
Thanks!
Man i missed out on so many of your videos :(
Welcome back.
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks guys
New subscriber, great stuff !
Thank you, Jeff, and welcome!
Great history thanks Santee 😎👍🐎 🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
You're welcome!
Good overview.
A tough one to make.
Thanks Santee.
You're welcome, Bob!
LOVE it
Thanks!
I have actually restored a Western saddle that had originally been used at Horse shows in France
CooL!
@@ArizonaGhostriders it was a mess when I started and the leather was hard from being stored in the cow shed. after I had finished it looked beautiful and you could see the engraved leather work on the side of it
Awesome!@@eliotreader8220
Great work!@@eliotreader8220
Thank you! I cant imagine having to balance myself on one of those side saddles and how awkward to ride that way. I'm glad I wasnt riding in the Victorian era. I'd be borrowing my brother's britches, I'm afraid.
There's a scene from the movie Tombstone where Josie and Wyatt "race" horses and she is side saddle. EXCEPT, the actress is riding normally and they used fake legs to emulate the side saddle look. If you look at them you can tell.
Arizona Ghostriders Really! I thought maybe it was a woman stunt woman and I was impressed that she was riding that well side saddle. Your information makes more sense. I am going to watch that scene again and pay closer attention. Thanks!
Sorry to destroy the image of that scene. Now you will forever see her fake legs a-flappin'!
Y'all should check out Escaramuzas. There Mexican Charras(female athletes of la Charrieda) that do sidesaddle choreograph riding, while on side saddle.
Here's a link of a Escaramuza team from Colorado. Who travel all the way to México to compete in there National sport of Charreria. th-cam.com/video/7IQ7qneVx_Y/w-d-xo.html
Do horses
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Been done
@@551taylor you didn't have to respond
Well done Santee. And you didn't get saddle sore to boot.
HAHA!
That piece on the front of the stirrup at 1:35 called a blevins......in the movie All the Pretty Horses with Matt Damon, there was a character named Blevins. Interesting. “What’s a blivit?” ......Blevins - “That ain’t my name!!” .....”It’s ten pounds of sh** in a five pound bag.”
I have to watch that movie again. Ever read the book?
Arizona Ghostriders ....no I haven’t. I’ll take this as a recommendation and head for the library. Thanks from 🇨🇦
Thanks brother. I am perplexed by your sub count. Everyone should sub to you. I guess we are a dying breed and that makes me so sad.
Good news is that many subs are newbies who are excited about learning the history.
Love your channel! Can you do a video on denim in the old west? I'd love to know jeans/denim part in the old west story.
Yes, I will.
@@ArizonaGhostriders can't wait! thanks!
Hey guys love your videos can you make a video on the pancho
Santee. What type of music did the cowboys sing? Around campfires, on the trail, or just hanging out?
A lot of Civil War-era songs were still popular, as well as stuff they made up sitting there.
I hear Frank Sinatra's I get a kick out of you was a popular work song among Freemen 😂😂
Hey Santee, you should do one on horses, and their impact on the old west.
Great video on saddled. Que my John Wayne voice.... Well ya better shoot low cause they’re riding Shetlands ahh huhhhh
HA!
Another thing about tapaderos... Yes... They kept your foot in the stirrups... But mainly kept branches and stuff from fish hooking while gathering in brush country... Just ask any "Brush Popper"...
Great info!
Good to see Race Bannons outta the joint.
Nice one Santee. Love a saddle with a high cantle. They're historically correct and like sitting in a rocking chair if you ask me. Do you guys ever do mounted shows?
Not as of yet. Hope to one day!
My great grandpa prefered the mexican style saddle with the big horn simply because it made it easier to roll his own cigarettes while working lol
HAHA! That's funny.
@@ArizonaGhostriders my great uncle still has the saddle and on the right side right below the horn there is a pouch my grandpa made that held a silver matches case with a striker on it lol he was a classy guy
I love the look of a Mother Hubbard Saddle
Yes
Santee, can you do one on navigation that riders and wagons used...ie maps, word of mouth, or just following the one ahead of him.
I've got one. Navigation in the Old West.
Love the videos as always. Question is there a general history book(s) on the old west that anyone would recommend?
May I suggest" the old west series from time life". I've spent many hours with my set. Its an exhaustive study, nearly an encylopedia of the old west with pictures and lots of them.
@@maxbelflower4981 Thank you very much.
well,i got me a hoss and i got me a saddle,and i got me a bunch of crappy old cattle.singing ky-yi-yippie-yi yay.
Wait, the cattle are singing ky-yi-yippie-yi yay? I don't believe you, Mike!
hey,i didn't write the song,i just sing it.lol.
LOL!
It would be great if y'all could do one on vaqueros.
Will do. Got a guy who can help me with it.
Santee, can you do one on ropes, lazo, lariat. Posible do some rope tricks yourself.
I can do one on ropes....but I can't do tricks with 'em. We'll see what I can come up with, though.
Do one on the pancho
Hey Santee I just got an 1858 Remington .44 reproduction and I was wondering if you could do a video on customizing revolvers and where to buy stuff - Austin from FL
I have that as a plan, but do you mean grips or finishes...or engraving? Aw heck, let's do ALL of it!
The McClellan saddle started out as just rawhide over the tree. Later the rawhide was covered with leather. There was an officers model that filled the gap 3/4 of the way. They were not as unpopular as people think nor as uncomfortable. You didn't need a horn unless you were in the cattle business. Many still posted while riding and of course they were straight back riders. More than a few were horse soldiers from the Civil War forward. I believe many saddles were based on the Hope saddle.
Good stuff! One day I will do one on just that saddle.
@@ArizonaGhostriders That would be great. By the way I tried to watch the series Texas Rising. Their costume department needs to watch your videos. I just couldn't watch it. McClellan saddles 23 years before it was introduced. Officers wearing Civil War uniforms, a knife with an aluminum pommel. There is no excuse for that post 1993.
57WillysCJ Unfortunately, Hollywood gets so caught up in telling the story that they let the costumes and props suffer. The budget may not have allowed for period correct saddles either. Hard to say.
I realize sometimes seeing that can alter your enjoyment of a movie. Been there!
@@ArizonaGhostriders I am like Marshall Trimble I look at those things. It is like trying to do ballet in work boots. I think ITVs involvement hurt the series. Their other programs do not lend well to history. It did better when it was Granada. Saddles should have been rather easy as they would have been Mexican style. An unadorned Vaquero saddle would have been fine. The few men wearing American style uniforms should have been not that difficult to find or produce. I did not examine Santa Anna and the Mexican army uniforms closely.
57WillysCJ I don't know much about their clothing, but Santa Anna's outfit is in our museum here (or it was).
Glad you look for those things. I look at clothing, gunbelts, and hats. Honestly, I wish I didn't sometimes.
Everyone knows about lawmen and outlaws but until recently I never heard about range detectives. How do they differ from the average lawman or pinkleton detective?
I think they were privately hired...and they were individuals with some credibility, like Tom Horn.
Santee stop horsein around lmbo lol great video
HAHA!
The dark brown saddle in the thumbnail kinda looks like Wyatt Earp to me or at least the same type
Maybe.
Great video 😊
Do you have a horse, Santee?
I don't. Maybe one day.
He clearly does have a dinosaur though