*THIS VIDEO IS A REUPLOAD* The old one got restricted it so I had to cut it up to be more ad friendly. Thanks for watching and hopefully this whole kerfuffle doesn't completely kill the hype of the video. And also want to give a big shoutout to Mannco.store for sponsoring. Their help has made all the work that got put into this video worth it. Turns out spending lots of money on tf2 items has it's perks sometimes lol. Check 'em out! mannco.store/?ref=thewhat89 This video has been in the works for months thank you so much to everyone who watched it! Before I was able to upload my video, someone else also made a breakdown of emesis blue, but I haven't watched it yet cause I didn't wanna accidentally copy their work. Here's the video and I'm gonna watch it later to see how our theories stack up against each other and if you want more Emesis Blue content I recommended giving it a shot as well th-cam.com/video/cyqkyXohpqM/w-d-xo.html
@@sdedqeq12 Soldier swore before. In his domination line of the Demoman, he said "Consider yourself dominated, you Scotch son of a b!tch!" And in his domination line of the Heavy, he said: "This American boot just kicked your ass back to Russia."
I swear emesis blue had to have come from a joke of the creator of this sfm referencing the jaunt while waiting 20 seconds to respawn. They probably kept on repeating, "it's an eternity in there" "it's longer than you think" before realizing that you could actually do something with that premise in a tf2 horror movie
I remember reading theories about respawn room being some horrible or esoteric device a very long time ago, like 2013 or so. So the idea was floating around for a very long time
I remember the line "longer than you think" stood out to me because it's a line from a short Stephen King horror(?) story called The Jaunt that had very similar themes, the line being spoken by someone who remained awake during an 'instant' teleportation instead of allowing the sleeping gas to knock him out like the other passengers
I feel bad for scout, his mom died, he thought it was medic, runs away from him just to be tortured by the electric drill, just for him to brutally turned into mush by the respawn machine. Also why did the flashback medic scare me so much 💀
It's likely Scout could have either been a clone, or straight up in a different part of the time loop crap. When he sees Medic in the bathroom in the bar he greets him and Medic smiles. It's interesting to think that during the 15 second respawn timer the mercs hang out at a bar.
I think it still was a vision. Every one of 3 were in it before medic and soldier meet. Thats when the visions stop. They only appear when they are alone. (Other than spy).
@@romeokukita277he no respawn server is exactly what happened in emesis. One of the engineers got very pissed at the spy for exploiting some kind of special disguises and engineer broke the respaen machine.
I'd like to mention that a BLU Soldier gets killed in every single valve meet the team video atleast once. But in Emesis Blue he is the only one that makes it out alive.
@@fish8415 to be fair, i know this will be very out of place but, perhaps the mutated scout was inspired by scp-096? when he first chases soldier, you can hear his screaming achoing in reverse, his arms at the front, has abnormally long arms and legs, and does not die no matter what (he got his head penetrated but still survived and attacked the giant heavy)
Also I just want to clarify that I don’t mean to say that other Tf2 SFMs don’t take themself serious or put in effort. I am just tying to say that I’ve never seen anything done in SFM with so much care, references, and insane detail and horror
And also those movie references have actuall plot relavence and weren't just thrown in for the sake of referencing like with the most high budget movies
I'm kinda torn about all the references. While some like Demo in Dell's bar fit really well, others feel on the nose and almost out of place, especially shawshank redemption one and the "ol' regular zombies" sequence also feels out of place. Overall I feel like the amount of them hurts the movie a bit, doesn't let it fully stand on its own. At some points you start to think "how many of the scenes are references then?" and it detracts from the experience.
@@Fakheet I didn't know about any of the references since i'm not a movie guy, it still made a lot sense and i could connect many scenes with one another understanding their meaning for the narrative, so maybe it's just a knowledge curse that you have, since you know the references you wilfully disconnect them from the film reducing their comprehension value.
Wait did the medic himself never respawn? I was assuming dell called medic stranger because the medic never found him self in respawn limbo cause he never respawned, he just undied like when his alter ego took over.
i really like the depication of a traumatic experience on emesis blue, how soldier went from a vocal silly guy to silent and traumatized, really makes me feel bad for him
Fun Fact: If you listen to Scout’s mother’s last line of dialogue saying something about dinner, it might sound a bit scrambled, sorta like if someone patched together audio recordings to sound like someone.
It also doesn't sound like a natural line delivery. It always unnerved me that she didn't sound upbeat about dinner. Instead relegating to sounding like Squidward after a long day of dealing with SpongeBob. And that adds to the atmosphere honestly because that just leads me to believe that she was dead either before Scout got home or while Scout was home. I opt for the first as it would make more sense instead of the murder happening during as Scout would probably hear it
@@00M_Clanks I imagine it was intentional because it adds to the already unnerving atmosphere created from the reality warping happening with Medic and his office
Valium is used in real life to induce memory loss after certain medical procedures, mostly painful/traumatic ones. This makes perfect sense in this case. It's used to make the mercenaries forget the time between life and death.
@@queenofvermin Yeah, actually. He's never respawned, because for some reason or another, soldier's been cloned instead. Soldier's never seen the other side, and that means there's nothing to forget.
To add to what Valium is used for irl and what TWS says about sniper, it might be that sniper HAS taken the pills like the other mercs have, and (at least for scout) it can be inferred that Scout and Sniper have died a similar amount of times before, but we see sniper die at least once in the film while in the slaughter house without the pills. Another thing for sniper to be SO mentally broken is that his body might be drug resistant (like mine is.) He may have taken these pills so much that not only is his body growing a tolerance to it so it feels like an eternity regardless of whether he takes them or not, his body might also relapse when he doesn't, making it worse. It would explain better why sniper laughs so manically when he first bleeds out, cause he already knows what's coming and is having a mental breakdown just thinking about it as we KINDA see with soldier, realizing what's happening at the funeral and breaks down mentally.
The end is actually a good ending. At the end Scout says "Hey doc!" to Medic. Indicating that when both of them died they met in purgatory. "Til death do us apart"? *Laughs in Medic and Scout friendship*
Not really cuz its been theorized he gets revived by the respawn core in the briefcase and gets burned at the end, becoming the plague doctor and thus restarting the timeloop
Add the end, theres a theory that shows the silhouette is Fritz and he has respawned and surrounded by flames. If that silhouette is Fritz, then his peace with Scout was only temporary and Fritz respawned without Scout and could possibly change into the Undertaker
In Poker Night, Heavy actually mentions the respawn system puts him through some seemingly endless nightmares. That scene alone was probably the whole inspiration for this movie.
No they don't. Heavy: Tiny Heavy. Strong Bad: What is it? Heavy: Do you get the nightmares? Strong Bad: I get the Jibblie nightmares. There's this one where Homestar is a giant cheese blintz and Marzipan holds me at gunpoint and makes me eat him and... uhhh... Uh-oh! Jibblie, jibblie! Heavy: I am talking about visions of endless suffering. Dead doctors, everywhere. Spy cannot be found. Strong Bad: No, but that sounds like the Jibblies, man... Heavy: I do not like this "Jibblies".
One thing, the mercs ARE aware of respawn in game. Engineer has a few lines referring to it, like when Dominating a Heavy, he mays say "Never mind the bullets, how much are all those coffins costing ya'?"
Oh, and there's an... in lore explanation for the nightmares. In a TF2 comic - when heavy was asked about respawning - he said that he thinks that all the lives he lived and died previously were "nightmares" So yeah... this is actually a bit accurate to the lore, scarily enough.
Actually, I’m pretty sure that’s his lines from the Poker night game he’s in. The first one. He says that he then wakes up and “realizes” it was just a “dream”
@@Kronosfobi As a comment mentioned it's the part where Heavy references them in Poker Night at the Inventory and believes they are just a series of nightmares
@@Kronosfobi For clarity: the past lives where he goes out of spawn and dies are nightmares. Not respawning in general.) But still, this is... kinda scary. Considering one of medic's dreams are of a dump truck throwing out bodies into the canals in slaughterhouse indicates that he was still barely alive during that point, and he remembers his past life where he died.
I think the plague doctor is Death itself. His ultimate goal is to destroy the respawn machine, the only thing that can counteract him. It also explains why he's in Medic's nightmares and why they play chess, as that is what doctors do: fight back death. The only people who can see or interact with him are those who went through the respawn machine as they've died before. If the briefcase _does_ contain souls or the like, he's trying to collect what he's owed. When ordered to open it, Medic says "I can't, it's not mine." What does open it? _The crash that kills him._ He also drives a hearse, which is a bit on the nose but still fits.
@@Joe_blow121 So sorry that one of the only constants in life tends to strike a chord with most creatives. It's literally a horror movie about dying repeatedly what are you on
Note that in the Russian roulette scene the Soldier says "Your gonna make it Fritz." and Medic responds "I know." before shooting himself, which is related to his ability to revive.
Perhaps the reason the sniper remembers all of his stasis is due to his differing fate from the rest of the characters. While every other mercenary gets a quick death, the sniper is the only character noted to have been left to bleed out slowly. Similar in essence to how Ricky held his breath to not fall asleep, the sniper's consciousness wasn't able to end before he was brought back into the stasis.
I think this idea also runs well with how we see Scout again when we're in Soldier and demo man's point of view because much like sniper he didn't have a quick death either he was slowly tortured by one of the engineers Another idea is that both sniper and Scout seem to share something like this with the 10th class in the third experiment as he was shaky, and his fingers looked extended much like the Scout we see
Theory: the ending of the film where medic dies in the crash isn't actually the ending, it's the beginning. Note how medic's outfit has changed, he's no longer decrepit, and he respawns afterward. This is the event that started all the things that happened in the film and somehow, combined with the crash, whatever was in the briefcase was the catalyst for all the supernatural events as well as medics ability to resurrect himself.
This movie is the prime example of how to use references. They are there not to just make you feel good for recognizing them, they actually help you understand and even solve the plot beforehand
Yes, I’ve never seen a reference and felt, “omg I have to keep watching this I’m so invested now,” before, but I was completely hooked as soon as M started playing. I could feel that it was purposefully going somewhere, and the sound design was fantastic. Very tasteful all the way through.
A theory I also like is that the Plague Doctor is a representation of Death, wanting the respawn machines gone so it can claim the souls of the always respawning mercenaries. "It's an eternity in there" because Death tries to hold onto them, tries to keep them dead, yet even so they always come back to life. The Plague Doctor distroting reality with it's very being as it is an entity beyond anything we could understand. Edit: Some things that I found on a rewatch of the original that IMO play into this theory are: 1. Soldier immediately asks if the Plague Doctor is an undertaker, and Spy says "almost" as response, alluding that their job isn't that to an undertaker, but closely related. 2. The Plague Doctor gets stopped by police in "Purgatory Avenue" and after doing something to the police officer, soldier calls it "Purgatory". 3. In the short scene where Medic is trapped in the coffin, the Plague Doctor is the only other character there, calmly watching as someone already inside a casket, comes back to life.
Something I realised while watching the analysis: during Soldier WW2 hallucination, Medic is seen playing chess with the Plague Doctor, the latter whom moves a blue pawn as an opening. Remember at the beginning of the movie when Scout's face is seen above a chess board? Said board has one blue pawn in the middle of it, surrounded by red pieces, representing scout's being trapped in the scene. Blue pawn is the Scout. That opening move is sending the Scout (blue pawn) towards the medic. Meaning the Plague Doctor intended for Scout to somewhat notice his presence and go see the Medic for it, kicking in the events of the movie.
I dont think the plague doctor intended for scout to die because the plague doctor put him in the coffin to be saved by medic. Medic is obviously the only merc that can heal and plague doctor knows that. He wasnt suppose to run of and get shot. Plague doctor wasnt on any side he was watching.
The fact that they made a near feature length film using the world and characters of TF2, animated it in the goofy meme animation engine, and somehow produced this incredible movie is so amazing to me. It's like peeforming a symphony orchestra with nothing but kazoos and tin cans and having it sound movingly beautiful. It's a massive achievement and I'm glad it's gotten so much attention and praise.
@MultiMonkyman You're right. I had just watched a 2 and a half movie before I wrote that comment, so my brain went "Ah yes, 2 hours and 30 minutes is the benchmark for a feature length film."
One detail I feel like people overlook during the scene in Scout's apartment is the change in the voice of his mom. At the beginning of the scene, her voice is natural sounding, and not choppy. But when she says "dinner's ready, dear" it sounds superficial and choppy, almost as if someone was impersonating her. Also, every time I rewatch Emesis Blue I always catch a detail I never noticed in my previous watch.
Yes! I was thinking that while watching the video! The voice sounded like, "DinnErs REady DeAR." With sudden choppier sounding parts of the word. Reminded me a lot of the alternates in Mandela Catalog.
The fact that there is a lot of corpses of a blue soldier really reminds me of the meet the medic video, you can see that every blue opponent on the video is just soldier.
Film fact: There are 7 triple candles on top of Medic's coffin on one of his dreams, bringing up the fact that he has used up 7 of his 9 lives (that he surgically added to himself). He died 2 more times in this film before dying once more and then getting brought back to life by the Conagher Slaughterhouse's Respawn Machine.
Ok this confirmed my theory as to why dell called medic stranger when he showed up in respawn limbo, the medic just hasnt actually respawned before/yet, or its been really long since his last respawn and dells limbo bar hasnt existed yet.
I thought that he has 7 life’s left because he died 2 times in the movie (3 if you’re counting the crash). What I think he kinda predicted his 2 deaths but not the 3rd one. I could be wrong so correct me if I am :)
I'm pretty sure the Plague Doctor represents death. Actual, final death. And he's got a vendetta against the machine and more importantly, the people, who defy it so greedily. Makes sense, too, why medic is usually depicted being at odds/fighting against him.
i think the plague doctor may be ether the 10th class or someone like dell. in general i think the doctor is a victim who while unable to himself is trying to let the other's die and never be respawned maybe the hearse had his body and was set on fire as a cremation so his corpe's could not be used. on another note iv just realized that. were are they getting the material to make the respawned individuals body's. considering the vehicle in hell i wouldn't be surprised if there using the dead body's in "hell" to make them. edit: im at the end of the video and i just realized the plague doctor has glowing eye's. and dell were's glowing goggle's in the seen were he's talking with demoman.
I align more with this idea too. He's the other side of the coin to Medic. I think it's well presented in soldier's nightmare, where death is Playing chess with medic, a person who's job in a war is to prevent death. It's a lifelong feud for these two, one that loops.
I came here to see if anyone else had this opinion. And I'm quite glad you do. I'm fully with you. It also explains why they want the case. It's the souls of the dead they're owed and they've come to collect. I'd be interested to see who and why the heavy was set up to exchange the souls. But I feel like there will always be unanswered questions.
There's one more tie-in to Spy's Disguise you missed. The scene at the end of the film where medic crashes the ambulance actually happens directly after Spy's Disguise. If you look closely, the scar on his cheek matches the one he has in that video, something he had nowhere else in Emesis Blue. So assuming Spy's Disguise took place before the events of Emesis Blue, that's actually the first time we see him die.
The movie really isn't in chronological order goddamn. Perhaps when Medic dies in the ambulance, he wakes up in his office at the beginning of the movie, having imagined the events of Spy's Disguise as a dream or (due to the diazepam) a vague memory which he quickly forgets as Jeremy knocks on his door. As for the Plague Doctor, it could be death about to take Medic for good, only for the time loop to save him at the last second.
@@BlackReaper0 I guess he started out with it, which gives a good explanation as to why he'd be so interested in getting it back during the film. As to why he has it, your guess is as good as mine.
One thing I don’t see people ever notice or point out, is when the red Demo man is frozen, he isn’t holding the grenade out at first, but after the heavy becomes present the Demo man is suddenly holding out the grenade while now also looking at soldier. Even though we know the Demo man is reasonably dead, he’s able to move his body to help soldier (via holding up the grenade for soldier).
What I love about the phrase "longer than you think" is that you can take it the obvious route (The jaunt/respawning is longer than anything our minds could possibly imagine) but you can also take it literally. The Jaunt/Respawn is quite literally longer than what your mind is capable of producing thought for. Take your most boring moment, a moment you were straight up struggling to come up with any thoughts for an extended period of time while doing nothing. Take that moment and extend it not just for a lifetime, but multiple. It's longer than you think.
It maybe just means it takes longer than you would think it would (considering goddamn the tf2 respawn times take forever I can't survive in non fast respawn servers) But take this with a grain (or 25) of salt cuz I just skipped the entire film due to scaredness
Coming back and actually trying to watch now Ngl I've watched so many scary things as a child that I've basically corrupted my mind into asking ,,what if x monster came out of the dark/was behind this door and killed me" that this is nothing
@@sunrupuk9634 to be fair the movie does kind of mid-ify the mercs. These people are complete psychos and professionals in their psycho field, and the movie just removes that by making them weak mentally weak. In meet the sandwich even soldier screamed "you red team ladies wouldn't know how to break a spine-" while he was basically murdered by heavy, which says a lot about how the real mercs would've reacted to all that was happening
A small but very visible detail in Scout's apartment when Medic checks in on him. When Medic sees the M and then the knocking, at the moment of him falling and hitting his head you can see the very same hallway with no M written on the wall. This further implies that Medic is losing his shit.
I was also thinking that the M on the walls could actually stand for Maynard, one of the two engies. But its probably not. Ludwig could probably draw em while going insane. But who knows, it xould be even be the plague doctor.
The M symbol is actually a reference to the classic movie called 'M', made in 1931, by Fritz Lang, a German director. The movie is about a child killer. There are some things in that movie that are relevant to Emesis Blue. For example, in the film, the killer had a habit of whistling the song "In the Hall of the Mountain King." In Emesis Blue, when Scout turned to his right, he suddenly heard the same song being whistled by someone.
Soldier being cloned could be a reference to "Meet the Medic", where a mob of soldiers with differing hats can be seen attacking Red team before being mass slaughtered by Heavy and Medic.
44:54 It's worth mentioning that the RED and BLU team are different people in the lore, and we only follow the RED team. Although RED soldier is a maniac who was never a proper soldier, BLU soldier could very well be a maniac that is a former soldier
I actually think that Demoman's death is actually not only poetic, but a perfect end to his character. I mean, think about it. This poor bastard has been dismembered and resuscitated for god knows how long for someone else's sick amusement, yet only in the comforting embrace of the cold can he finally properly rest. Sure, freezing to death is an unpleasant way to go, but it's clear that not only did he not actually suffer, since he managed to see Conagher one last time before passing on, but the way he died was perfectly crafted by fate itself to make sure he suffers no longer, even in death. His body is perfectly perserved in ice, with no deformations present aside from the one he already had. If anyone ever tried to deform him further, he would just crumble. No longer will he have his body mutilated beyond recognition, for the cold embrace of death itself has made sure that no-one will ever be able to touch him with the intent to harm ever again.
Based on some of the near death reports I have read hypothermia is (relatively speaking) a pretty comfortable way to go. According to these reports the victim will experience a comfortable growing warmth until they are unconscious.
Hypothermia is actually a pretty calm demise, all things considered. After a point, your brain stops working, and you feel warm and things slow down. Also, his body is 100% mutilated, a grenade went off in his lap. He's gonna look like he hit his kill bind.
The Emesis Diazepam being from 1963 while the timeline is in 1968 probably is to give us a clue as to why the medication started to just give them all of the side-effects, it's expired past its effectiveness. If the Diazepam was to be fresh, as in, from 1968, the Mercenaries could probably go on about their Mercenary lives without noticing the effects of the Respawn Machine, however that's not what happens, the Diazepam is expired, it gives them Memory Loss shortly before being respawned, that way none of the Mercs remember what happened to their previous body, what happened before, and just don't remember being executed, unless of course, the Diazepam was always designed to give them Memory Loss and all of the side-effects, so that none of the happenings before respawning are remembered.
This analysis really helped me contextualize some of the minor details I glossed over when I first saw emesis blue, but I do have one objection to make. Your thoughts on the non-linearity of time feel convoluted in a way they don't need to be, though having watched your video to the end I understand how that specific detail is crucial to your take away of the film. Rather than the whole situation being an endless loop repeating with each character only having vague memories. I believe, quite simply, that when they say "it's eternity in there" they mean it literally. They might not spend an actual eternity in what is for all intents and purposes purgatory but they do stay for "longer than you think" and during that time they can experience Any Moment in eternity and in a weird homage to the movie interstellar the mercs can not only witness moments from their pasts and futures but interact with them. Other than that it was a lovely video.
Just a few interesting tidbits I've noticed that I didn't quite see mentioned: 1. "Emesis" is the clinical term for vomitting. Your body only tries to vomit in response to immense physical or mental distress. Emesis might be forcibly induced on someone who's ingested poison. 2. Diazepam/Valium is REALLY NOT MEANT FOR LONG TERM USE LIGHTLY. It wouldn't be used for chronic insomnia. The withdrawl symptoms are god awful, and misuse of diazepam can cause antegrade amnesia (can't form new memories properly), suppression of REM sleep (which causes increased aggression, hallucinations, difficulty concentrating), and dizziness. Also, while it's a drug that passes through your body relatively quickly, you would NOT prescribe 25mg dose straight up. Safe use of Valium is in the 1-10mg range, with several hours in between doses. In other words, Medic has been taking meds that are melting his brain the whole film - is it a surprise that he's an unreliable protagonist? 3. However...it's worth noting that Valium has a shelf life of 5 years. If the medicine is from 1963, and the films events are in 1968, five years later... 4. The Medic emerging from a flaming Respawn machine could be a reference to TF2's lore, where Medic sold his soul to the Devil, but stole 9 other souls. If his death in the ambulance is his final death, and the respawn machine is gone, then...he only has one place left he can go.
I’m glad you mentioned the date on the bottle of pills. Instead of it being some kind of time loop, I took it as BLU giving the mercs expired meds that they slapped a label over (probably to save money). Like you said, it’s no wonder the mercs are losing it, taking expired medication, especially Diazepam causes it’s effects to weaken, making a person (like Medic) take more and more of it to counteract that and probably upping the side effects significantly.
I left a separate comment explaining my full take on this, but the medic dies 3 times in the movie. In the TF2 comics it is stated that the devil only needs a majority share in the medic's souls to permanently keep him in hell, and in the same comic medic loses two of his souls to the devil - one for dying, and one in exchange for the devil's pen. In total, the medic has 9 souls, and by the end of emesis blue, he has died 5 times, which is just enough for the devil to have a majority share in his life.
1:10:26 What is (if it is true) kinda terrifying is that in the Manual Respawn of Scout the Terminal states that it sequences his Genomes, Skeleton, Nervous System, Muscle Tissue, etc and when it comes out with an Error it outputs just liquid (which is almost definitely blood because of the colour). Because whatever was inside gave a horrified scream, that would imply that he was fully conscious for that short period as he essentially fell apart.
@@StanleyNumber427 Hm. I mean the two-face bootleg Medic is also exactly like the scout. That medic was using some sort of substance that brought heavy back to life which DID however turn him into fucking Nemisis from Resident Evil and could not die. He got stabbed in the eye, blown up with a rocket... the only thing that stopped them was a burning building that collapsed on him and even then we don't know if it actually killed them. Seeming the deformed Scout was stabbed in the brain with a crowbar and then after soldier looks away moments later the Scout is now gone.. probably like a repeat cycle? We did see soldier repeat when he saw the future soldier talking to demo man so perhaps it's instead just a loop and his body just got 'reset' in a way.
I was always under the impression that Medic bringing Scout back was in the past (like how solider throws a crowbar at himself) and what Medic does ends up making Scout into that monstrosity
1:34:30 I wanna point out that the sound here is actually the sound of the Aztec Death Whistle, which is a skull-shaped device that warriors would blow before they engaged in war, typically to scare their opponents and effectively tell them of their fate beforehand.
i have ptsd related to medical trauma and when i watched emesis blue - i was actually stunned. somehow some goofy tf2 sfm has been the best portrayal for ptsd i’ve ever seen. the constant flashbacks, losing understanding on your current reality, paranoia of who and what you’ve become. it’s incredibly distressing yet incredible at the same time
I like to believe that why Demo has his eye back is because it's October 31st. Halloween. Something very fun happens to his eye every halloween, so it was just getting REALLY close to becoming Monoculus and really spicing up the night.
But from the comics we know that Medic always tried to give Demoman a new eye, which functioned until Halloween and got haunted. So therefore technically the eye doesn't appear by Halloween itself, Demoman's cursed eye socket haunts his new eye every year
Something interesting is that during Chapter 2, Scout's conversation with his mother sounds fine, but the line "dinner's ready, dear." shifts pitch multiple times, like it's an emulation of her voice rather than her. The chessboard is also completely set up in the background during the beginning of the chapter, but shifts to the surrounded pawn with no apparent cause for the cinematic shot. It's interesting to note that both of these changes occur immediately after Scout takes the Valium. Maybe implying that the medication is what seals his fate and brings him back into the loop, unlike Soldier who never takes any of it?
So I have a mini theory about what is going on, especially with the emesis diazepam. Emesis means “the action or process of vomiting” aka a fancy term for throwing up what’s in your stomach, and as you mentioned, diazepam is for alcohol withdrawal and anxiety, and Valium being another name for the diazepam. Saying this, I believe that the hallucinations that all the mercs are seeing are their mental “emesis”, a throwing up of their own psychosis and the effects of the respawn machine. Medic having some sort of split personality, red light being the emesis of his own sins. The medical malpractice he has done in the past, seeing what happened to a previous version of the blue spy, his own personal mental health deteriorating over the course of this movie. Scout being mentally and physically disabled by the machine, and being the reason why medic is having his “emesis” response to everything. Soldier being brought back to the war via simple things being more akin to a ptsd driven flashback, having his emesis respond being less extreme than medics because he didn’t take the Valium. Maybe the reason why he managed to live is because of the fact that his “emesis” was not amplified by the medication, compared to everyone else’s. Again, the monster scout being the main reason why he had those flashbacks to the war, the reason for his “emesis” of his mental issues of possible ptsd from World War Two. The medication brings out the worst in the mercs, heavy’s job mentality and hunting down his past teammates, spy arrogance and smoking habits ending with him burned and shot to death, medic psychosis and split personality becoming worse after every death, scout being a both a metaphorical and physical monster to everyone in the slaughter house, engineer being the bartender, demo’s relapse in the bar and subsequent death, snipers being extremely aggressive post revival, pyro menacing aura being worse without their more childlike behavior, all becoming worse people after taking the medication… all accept soldier. Soldier was the only one who appeared to never take the pills, his “emesis” being tamer and much less frequent than the others thanks to it. His “emesis” being a result of ptsd than the medication, and it appears that he is respawned differently than the other mercenaries. I’m not going to theorize about soldier and the implications of him being frozen in test tubes in the lab, but I have ideas. Tdlr: the medicine the blue team takes is making them hallucinate and turning them into worse people than before, soldier is the only one not effective by it as he doesn’t take it. The medicine has an effect that can basically be said as a mental vomiting of one’s own issues, and it is amplified by the respawn machine thanks to it.
3:36 Sniper: "How many times have you died, I'm actually gettin' impressed." Scout: "Go ahead, rage quit. Yeah, I dare ya, make us both happy." These lines, along with many others, do infact indicate that they're fully well aware of their dying/respawning in-game. This isn't even including the domination acknowledging voice-lines which only occur when killing the same enemy three times without them killing you. Yeah, they're aware, and they clearly don't care.
I choose to believe this is because tf2 canonically uses the same respawning as from STBlackST's gmod animations where you drop something related to them in a bucket and they pop out unharmed
emesis blue: respawning happens and it fucks people up, mind, body and soul canon tf2: respawning happens and none of the mercs give a shit, instead accepting it as a part of life
Emesis Blue had me on edge the entire time and it was a super uncomfortable experience for me. 10/10 great horror without any cheap tricks, just pure mindfuck.
With the time loop, the entirety of Medic hitting back twice as hard as scout advised, and Medic's little black outfit at the end nearly matching the plague doctor, along with his deformities giving him a reason to wear the mask, seem to line up with Medic now finishing up what Medic failed to do.
[SPOILERS] The plague doctor is absolutely the medic after he respawns at the end of the film. He's the representation of the entity trying to take hold of medic throughout the film, and the one that does just before medic dies and respawns. Also, he is marked with "M", supposed stating that he is the killer of scout's mom, but he didn't. But, if he had come back as the plague doctor, then technically he WAS the killer. Plus, the medic drives exclusively an ambulance, a symbol for life, and the plague doctor drives exclusively a hearse, a symbol for death.
i have the same theory but i think the plague doctor is medic after respawing and using the time loop to travel back in time to kidnap scout in order to make the mercs destroy the spawing machine also the reason why scout was so mad a medic when he tried to rescue him.
Also the plauge doctor and Medic were seen playing chess is soldier's war flashback. It's Medic and his psyco side vying for control with the psyco side taking form as the plauge doctor, possibly to help connect the dots that Medic and the doctor are the same.
A theory I have on why Scout seems more messed up by the respawn machine than everyone else comes from a Reddit thread, someone on Reddit asked which class dies the most often and I saw a lot of people say the Scout due to his low health, fast paced and rush down style of gameplay. So if Scout is the one dying the most then he is also the one respawning the most which could explain why the Respawn machine has messed him up more than the others.
@@prettys4313let's also not forget this fucking twig drinks things with enough sugar to cause cancer. So all in all I fell like the scouts horrible bodily damage compounded the issue
If you pay attention to Scout's medical report you will notice that it's written as patient SC-10498 as a way to refer to Scout. we can guess that SC is short for Scout Class while the number is probably how many times scout respawned AFTER the trials for the respawn machine were completed so Scout probably died and respawned way more times
1:47:00 Adding onto to that, this is a big stretch but, Memento Mori is latin for 'remember you must die' and is basically the symbol for an inevitable death. With the M being painted throughout the movie it could be a refrence to Momento Mori and basically telling all the characters that its finally time for them to die for a finale time :o
42:15 the alter ego doesn't actually take over Medic's body when he's unconscious, he takes over when Medic is _dead._ You see, a hard blow to the back of the head can result in death, which is what happened the first time over.
but what about when he took a nap in his ambulance? that is alluded to have been when he killed scout's mother alongside pyro. assuming he is indeed a sleeper agent, him napping would've been the trigger for him to kidnap scout alongside pyro after scout told him about his plans to sue builder's league. him getting knocked out by the counter would've merely been the trigger to get rid of any witnesses.
I think a quote I really like concerning what immortality would actually put a mortal being through goes like this; "Immortality isn't living forever, it's dying forever." It feels right at home in Emesis Blue itself, honestly.
In Russia, if hand is rotten, you cut off hand. If arm is rotten, you cut off arm. But if heart is rotten... you cut off leg. This is Russian love song.
1:41:33 Fortress Films did a great job using the Original laugh used by Soldier by the late Rick May. And how they used his scream for when the Heavy was crushed by the burning building was also great
1:57:28 I think the reason the Sniper remembers is because of how he died, he bleed out. When the other characters died, it is (relatively) quick, but the Sniper's slow death could mean that he was "awake" when he died, similar to how the son in "The Jaunt" was awake during the teleportation and remembered his time in stasis. This also makes his hatred of Soldier more understandable, him wanting the Sniper to bleed out is the reason for the torture he experienced in the respawn machine.
ooh i like this theory. Maybe his torture lead to an excruciating respawn time which ended up turning him into the scout monster. And his respawn file corrupting too as well?@@dantuu1648
What struck me was how self serving the Spy was. He killed his fellow mercs on Archibald's orders for power. How Spy realised Archibald was the cause of all their problems I don't know but maybe he just realised that if it hadn't been for Archibald, he wouldn't be here. Still the Russian Roulette piece shows just how self serving Spy is. He directs his anger at Soldier, to which Soldier mentions taking a bullet for him. To a normal person that action would mean something but to someone as selfish as Spy it's nothing. I believe he has Medic there is for an outcome that would benefit Spy. Soldier dies, he has perceived revenge for Soldier running, he dies the pain and problems are over, Medic dies and he can seize power. Ironic how Spy's plans all come to nothing in the end.
@@stellaanderson570that and also I think Spy was the one to shoot the camera monitor that overlooked Archibald’s conversation with Goldman that revealed he was the one pulling the strings to drag out the war between the brothers
Don't forget his 'reward' for helping Archibald was a car, now blown up (by his own stupidity) and an assistant in Soldier...who drives him up the wall.
i love how the trailers for emesis blue are done in the analog horror aesthetic, whereas the film is done in the style of classic psychological/supernatural horror. the team behind this clearly have a strong love for the horror genre and it shows. they did fantastic with this
12:02 I took an AP psychology class, and everyone in the room, including the teacher, figured Freud was on something when he came up with certain ideas.
38:3241:28 It’s these moments where, rewatching the movie, it suddenly clicks that Maynard always acted like a blind man. With how far Medic was peeking over the desk, there’s no other logical reason that Maynard wouldn’t’ve seen him when the phone rang. And also, while he has the shotgun, Maynard doesn’t shoot until Medic yells loudly, which tips Maynard off to his position in the room. He’s someone who works and fights relying entirely on his hearing.
Not trying to be a dick but how does he play the piano? Then again now that I think abt it he could be a professional that’s done it for ages and once he presses one key he can locate the others easily. But you’re right abt the way he acts and moves like a deaf person it’s rly interesting.
@@Jager113 Your answer is probably right, when you get used to something you can locate it easily. Even when im not seeing my keyboard i just type. matter of fact i'm writing this while looking at the screen just locating the keys, brain memory i guess.
I think rather than being the 10 class, the plague doctor simply represents another side of medic. Whether it’s more time loop shenanigans, or more likely, some sort of anomaly created by a respawn attempt with the medic, explaining why the two can be in different places. On a less serious note, i’d like to imagine that the respawn machine has a 100% success rate for saxton, bc even the machine itself is scared of a “brought back wrong” saxton hale
I doubt Saxton has ever even died. The dude is an Australian but we know from the comics after the last of the Australium was used up the Australians turned into wimps (British) yet later he's seen fighting the robots completely fine. Considering how Australium was being use to extend lifespan the fact he was not effected by the Australium Drought leads me to believe that Saxton is immortal and unkillable, through some sort of folktale esque legend or that he's an experiment of some kind. I would love to see the 7th comic expand on Saxton as a character even more than it did in issues 1-6.
Interestingly i find the chess pieces to be signaling his role as just a pawn with no power in bigger game surrounded by powerful pieces that take control of his fate
My favorite clip/scene is definitely scout getting the phone call in his house, and looking slooooowly to his right...to see his mother's face peeking out from around the corner. It's a simple shot composition, and SO SO effective. You can tell something is horribly wrong, the silence, the blank look on her face, the stark contrast between her and the darkness of the room. My gut reaction was that he was hallucinating, in a nightmare, with his mother acting as some sort of entity. And then...her head falls to the ground. Disconnected, severed. There's a glimpse of a hand (if I remember correctly) as it releases the head, then slides out of sight. We sit on this horrific beat for a moment, then the camera pans left, and the Mute's mask looms from the darkness, stark and white like the deceased woman's face was. Cut to black. I had to pause the video and look around my room for a second, it gave me chills. Really good job there.
Those fingers dropping the head got me so bad. I swear it was like I zoomed into the scene and slowed it down. Heard that happens during fight or flight mode so yeah 10/10 scene
A few things to point out: 1. I don’t think it was Dell who was calling Maynard, if it were, he wouldn’t be asking where his brother is, although he is talking to the Unknown caller as if he knows who he is. 2. According to the official script of this sfm on their Patreon, when Maynard was talking on the phone with the Unknown caller, in the ‘UNINTELLIGIBLE’ subtitle, he actually said “Forget the test subjects I think we’ve been compromised.” The test subjects could be referring to the soldier clones, Stalingrad (The mutated heavy), or the other mutated mercenaries. 3. Dells’ grandfather is Radigan Conagher, the man who built the machine that allowed Blutarch and Redmond to live longer, but could he also be respawn compatible?
I think it was Dell who called, as when picking up the phone the Connager brother says "hey Dell, you haven't called me in a while". This signifies that it was at least Dell's phone number, and maybe people calling from the afterlife have their voices altered to the point of you not being able to recognise them.
now that I think about it in the tf2 comics the older models of the immortality machine brought the brothers back from the dead, each respawn taking longer and longer than the last until Engineer fixed it HOWEVER the Emesis blue story is taking place in a world where the brothers ( Blutarch and Redmond ) did have a discussion with one another but weren't killed by grey since they're still alive and one of them referenced the "pregnancy machine" when he was talking to Archibald, something the two brothers had the idea of about in the comics mere minutes before they were killed by grey mann so it's unlikely it was Engineer's grandfather that made the machine since even the testing of the respawn machine was taking place that many years later which likely means that his grandfather wouldn't have been alive by the time the respawn machine was made and makes it hard for him to be respawn compatible if that was the case unless we're assuming that Radigan is the soldier we see in the beginning of the movie or that the respawn machine somehow existed as far back as 30 years before (he's been dead for 30 years) in 1948 and that the pregnancy machine has nothing to do with the actual tf2 comics but instead an idea the brothers had much earlier to increase the number of their soldiers
I wrote a rather lengthy post about my take on this film over on the TF2 subreddit. I don't have access to the Patreon, I didn't know they had the script released there! I cut the unintelligible audio out and edited it to hear what it actually said. I got pretty close! I do believe it was Archibald on the other side of the call.
I think something else that's interesting is how in the same WWII halucination soldier had, scout was climbing a ladder/stairs and gets shot in the head, at 52:30 it's almost the same thing with scout climbing up a staircase and getting hit in the same place that he got shot in during the hallucination.
Despite Emesis Blue being a collage of shots and direct references to its inspirations, it is an absolute masterpiece, using the direct references to spin its own unique and twisted story. And on top of that, SFM, like you said, is a very old software, it’s INSANE that the creators were able to pull off such beautifully done and horrific scenes with such old software.
This film was the result of a tf2 addiction, a love for films, WAYYYYY too much free time and a passion for quality and source filmmaker. F*cking brilliant.
They took how it feels to wait the 20 seconds and made it into a sentence at the start. Click read more if you don't know what I am talking about. "It's eternity in there"
One problem with Soldier supposedly not being in the time loop due to not taking the medicine, He's still in the loop. Without Soldier the loop is broken, Spy would've never made it past the Sniper in the sewers without Soldier. Soldier is essential to the loop, meaning that there is something else keeping him tied to it. Otherwise, the entire loop would be different.
I don’t think it’s just the medicine causing all of this. I think the general area around the Slaughterhouse, and by association the Respawn Machine, is experiencing a warped time space. That’s why there's this huge loop. I think that by destroying the Machine, the loop was broken, which I think is why Medic finally died at the end of the film.
1:03:43 i'm just at this current timestamp but i note this after having watched the movie, dell talks about seeing "mainly *strangers*". at the end of the movie, when medic is at dell's (oh i realize that DELL. yknow the dead engie who tended to the demo's bar) he's greeted by "you look lost, *stranger*"
I adore Emesis Blue not just for the horror atmosphere, but because the horror is actively fighting to devour the comedy, as if the tone itself is a character that's fallen victim to the circumstances. You can FEEL the goofier nature of TF2 fighting its own battle to lighten the mood a bit, but it just isn't enough. The jokes start dying and twisting into something cruel and unfamiliar. Heavy's "It's a job" mentality means he's the first to turn on everyone he used to work for. Scout's idiocy is a result of him being permanently maimed from the inside out because the process only barely worked on him. Soldier stops sounding quite so amusingly crazy and starts seeming lucid compared to the horrors he's being put through. Medic's malpractice haunts him now that he's not distracted by the warfare. Spy's rogueish confidence gave way to arrogance, delusion and self-sabotage long ago. Pyro's mind is so broken that it's like sand made of glass shards at this point. It's hard to tell there ever was anything weird until it's cutting you open just from contact rather than just feeling irritating at times. Sniper's bound and determined to die as little as possible, and this story is what finally pushes him over the edge into joining his comrades. Demoman only seems to be holding himself together because he's able to avoid much incident to start with thanks to demolitions being such a careful job. And Engineer... Engineer knew most of all what was going on since he's the tech expert in charge of keeping everything in working order, and on top of his already withdrawn and arm's length nature, whatever he knew has left him so deeply isolated from society overall that no one's even sure he's alive anymore, or that what he is now could count AS living. My theory about The Undertaker is that he is the Medic's alternate persona... but not specifically from THIS point in time. Those who go through the respawn machine can certifiably affect certain things through those weird space-time fractures. When Medic saw himself smiling with broken teeth and gouged-out eyes, he wasn't seeing a hallucination. He was seeing himself just after the car crash after he woke up again, but it WAS really him, fresh off the realization that something about him has twisted him into something else. The Undertaker, I believe, is The Medic at the culmination of his obsession and exertion over the situation that unfolded at the Slaughterhouse, existing non-linearly throughout space-time, trying to lead things to a conclusion that he feels will put an end to everything, based on both what he's seen himself do, and what he intuited from others reactions that night. It would also account for why he's a physical entity, yet keeps vanishing in unexplained ways. It's the exact same process as Soldier beaning himself with a crowbar or Medic knocking over the VHS tapes, but he's using his time far more directly.
I think Fortress Films' TF2 films take place in a different canon from the official TF2 storyline, one that's a bit more mellowed out in exchange for grimness, and not nearly as absurd.
One small detail that I noticed is when Demo and Soldier finds Archibauld, when he wakes up he has a stitched head wound exactly where the Spy shot him earlier, indicating Archibauld's personal hell
One thought I had... In the Emesis Diazepam teaser, it's listed that the medication is compounded specifically for each perscribed patient. Perscription medication, such as Ritalin and Dexamphetamine, do have unintended effects on those not perscribed for it. My thought is that, given how many bottles can be seen in multiple scenes, that both RED and BLU purchased bulk loads of expired Emesis Diazepam that are perscribed to someone else to give to the mercs. The tablets were never going to work on the mercenaries.
on the case of diazepam, there isn't much interaction really, it0s downsides have more to do with the long term. it's sort of a "chilling" effect. that's why it gets widely prescribed for a variety of things, from anxiety to seizures, the difference being, that it is abslutely not a medication to be used for chronic issues outside of peak moments. If given responsably, it's ideal use is in paralel with a stable treatment with medication that does not create resistance/tolerance or addiction in the long term, while having diazepam or one of it's cousins (like clotiazepam) aviable for a crisis. The film depicts a very careless approach to the health and wellbeing of the mercs, so it makes sense that they would just drop valium on them and call it a day, but that would only remain effective and sustainable for like a month before becoming it's own can of worms when given and taken so liberaly.
One thing I've noticed is that the Soldier is the only person who can directly interact with different versions of himself. Medic is able to push the cassette tapes over and open the door to the medical office, but Medic nor Scout can "see" him. Yet, with Soldier, we can see him wanting to shoot himself at the start of the film, see himself talking to Demoman, and throw a crowbar at himself. My theory is that because Soldier is not taking the medication, he is able to escape the time loop by killing himself. This is where the scene when a mysterious figure shoots him with a revolver (the same revolver in the first part of the movie) after he rocket jumped to the other side! He is the only person who gets a Happy ending. So... The lesson is. Don't do drugs kids.
Wouldnt say its happy ending, considering he was planning to go kamikaze with grenade in the church durinf Archibalds funeral. It would almost happen if Ludwig didnt killed Blu Spy.
@@_raboot_ At the beginning of the film, we can see the timeloop happening with soldier. Soldier picks up the revolver while in the car after seeing himself in the future, wanting to shoot. Morever, the plague doctor also uses a revolver. I don't think it would make sense if Spy shot him because Spy told Soldier to leave before cloaking away. Spy wouldn't follow Soldier into the Abyss, right? There were no reason for him to; they already played Russian Roulette and Soldier survived. So yeah, I still believe in my theory :3 Don't do drugs, kids!
I can't belive Fortress films made an almost two hour long incredibly complex SFM movie just to communicate that it takes forever to respawn in the game
It is such a shame that at katabasis, you skipped over such a good scene. As spy cocks the gun, he holds it to his head, click, nothing. Soldier holds it to his head, and as tension builds up.. click, nothing. Soldier hands fritz the gun, as he says "you'll make it fritz" and he replys, "i know i will" as he pulls the trigger and the gun goes off. Showing his true descent, because fritz knows theres no consequences to his actions anymore, like a psychopathic murder, he isnt phased anymore. And its the last time we see him before the finale. Also, unrelated partial vent partial funny: this movie came out, around a time in my life, where i was plagued by the thought of death, and the horror of losing everything, and i was so worried and although loving the movie it triggered those thoughts. Watching this video, i dont think about death because i cant take any of it seriously with thewhatshows jolly fucking voice, he sounds so happy all the time. You sound like youd be the narrator for sesame street.
This movie should be shown in theaters. It should also be taught in Film classes. This is a wonderful step by step example of how to make a psychological horror that does not rely on jump scares Or random gore. While some of them are included. The real horror comes from uncovering the story alongside the characters and realizing just what kind of horrible messed up world that this really is
Yeah- the respawn machine is so conceptually disturbing that it leads right into other wonderful horror. The gore and zombies are results of the machine. The mental atrophy they're all suffering is a result of the machine. And best of all, _we barely even really SEE the machine._ It actually shows up like _once,_ and when it does, it KILLS SCOUT.
An alternate theory for the Plague Doctor I thought of while watching that section was that the plague doc IS the Medic, but specifically the instance of him that emerged from the flaming Respawn Machine at the very end. We know for certain that time is distorted around the events of the film, with multiple instances per character, and his seeming connection to the Medic would be explained. Plus, since the Medic has seen the stuff similarly to Solider, and given his actions at the funeral, his motivations would still line up.
I also read from the TvTropes page for Emesis Blu that the Plague Doctor is none other than death itself. Because remember in the films description it mentions about what happens when you cheat death too many times. The respawn machine essentially cheats death. You may want to read about it in the TvTropes page
@@black_grey_white9813 That's a theory I had, but the fact they leave a big bloody M everywhere, and seem to tail the Medic... idk. I feel like the visions he has of the plague doctor make it more than just a persona of death. Don't get me wrong, I think you are still onto something, because they certainly do manifest qualities of a 'Death Itself' sort of character. I just think they are actually a part of Medic. The M everywhere is a way of the plague doctor's pysche to remind the Medic of who he is (both of them), and the motivations of both characters *ARE* identical. Medic feels guilty because he knows about all the bodies, all the death that the teams endure, he himself was probably retired from service after what happened with the respawn machine's malfunctions, and like he says in the movie... He couldn't forget the screams he heard. The agony of seeing people you've fought and died beside, traumatically, mangled into one giant mass of bodies. I think the plague doctor is the manifestation of death for Soldier, and for the Medic, is a representation of death and what he truly wants (to be free from eternal life).
@@black_grey_white9813 Was just thinking about the plague doctor being death itself at the beginning of the video, wanting to punish the people revived by the respawn machine but especially the people who invented it.
Would explain why his entire body is covered. Perhaps his respawn destroyed the machine which is why it is on fire. He then sets out to make sure the events take place again to fix each fucked up timeline...or maybe Im tweakin bruh
I haven't scrolled down enough to see an odd idea but what if: **Pyro is the charred ending Medic** We've seen how the mutations are distorted, reanimated, and left with missing body parts but none are shown with fatal burns. More over, due to the Respawn machine being on fire, who's to say this corrupt entity can't phase between the past and future much like the machine can with it's victims. *"It's eternity in there"* much like the many theories we truly have.
Soldier getting jump scared by Bad to the Bone is the funniest shit I’ve seen all day. And the fact that a fainter version of the riff plays while Spy is looking at it is even better
Here's a neat detail you missed in the piano scene. The music Maynard is playing on the piano is the beginning portion of Blackbird - The Beatles. The key and some of the notes are altered, but the progression is the same. The original track came out on November 22, 1968, a date that's accurate with the film's setting of 1969. What I'm trying to say is that Maynard is canonically a Beatles fan.
another detail he missed is that Soldier isn't just being cloned to be sold- when Spy is tasked with killing the three condemned mercenaries, he demands a new car, vacation time.... _and a personal assistant._ Soldier *IS* that personal assistant, and he's been cloned, handed over to Spy, and died in his service as a disposable meatshield MULTIPLE times.
also, that photo of Soldier with Lyndon B. Johnson is him *receiving the Medal of Honor*- the tape with Archibald mentions that the respawn subjects were death-row inmates, but honestly, I kind of doubt he's above using his powers as Governor of New Mexico and backer of both RED and BLU to railroad innocent people for his project; people like, say, a highly decorated and experienced WWII veteran?
3:40 I think the Mercs are aware of the death-loop. Some of the domination lines have them literally saying 'come back so I can kill you again.' Most notably, the engineer's, "Boy, this here is just gonna keep happenin' and happenin'."
Most of the mercenaries have lines that acknowledge that they're killing the same people multiple times. And also acknowledging that the other team has a version of themselves -- another engineer example is him saying "a real Texan would've dodged that..." as a domination line against himself
There is no canonical death loop in TF2, or at least not in a way thats at all relevant. Those lines are still just for gameplay flavor and arent meant to indicate anything about the lore. Theres a reason the respawn mechanic isnt explored in the comics or anywhere else. Its just a gameplay mechanic. Same as there existing multiple of the same merc. There simply doesnt need to be an explanation to it
Little fun fact: The model used for the 10th merc is one from Day of Defeat Source, a game set in World War 2, implying he was a fighter. Soldier had a vision with the plague doctor, which might mean he fought with #10
I have to say, it is absurdly funny to say "see Medic drives by, then the plague doctor pulls up, they can't be the same person" when the scene is question was preceded by one where Soldier saw his future self across the road, that scene in turn preceded by one wherein Medic knocks over a box that draws the attention of his past self
Oh wow. That's a really great point. Going by that logic, each successive time loop in the first few scenes was closed at later and later points in the movie, so the Plague Doctor might have been the Medic's respawn in the last shot, with that loop being closed after the film was over. That would also explain why the doctor's hearse is on fire the last time we see it, that version's from the future and needs to be put out by driving in the rain at the beginning of the movie (and by the doctor's maybe-implied space-warping powers). It really feels like the Plague Doctor/Undertaker is a character with a complete story written by the filmmakers, but it's deliberately omitted from the movie. That's a point towards being the cut tenth class, but the character's imagery is far too close to the Medic's for there to not be a connection between them.
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This video has been in the works for months thank you so much to everyone who watched it! Before I was able to upload my video, someone else also made a breakdown of emesis blue, but I haven't watched it yet cause I didn't wanna accidentally copy their work.
Here's the video and I'm gonna watch it later to see how our theories stack up against each other and if you want more Emesis Blue content I recommended giving it a shot as well
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Wonder What TH-cam thought was too scary...
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Wow that's so cool I sure hope TH-cam ends up recommending it to kids
Even if this is a horror film, I can't get over soldier's line of:
"It's the voice of God, you sonofabitch, and I'm COMING FOR YOU!"
it's totally in character, too
The most based soldier thing ever said
@@technoturnovers7072 No I dont think it's in soldier's character considering he never swears.
@@sdedqeq12 Soldier swore before. In his domination line of the Demoman, he said "Consider yourself dominated, you Scotch son of a b!tch!" And in his domination line of the Heavy, he said: "This American boot just kicked your ass back to Russia."
I swear emesis blue had to have come from a joke of the creator of this sfm referencing the jaunt while waiting 20 seconds to respawn. They probably kept on repeating, "it's an eternity in there" "it's longer than you think" before realizing that you could actually do something with that premise in a tf2 horror movie
I can't wait for the Director's Commentary in like 10 years
I remember reading theories about respawn room being some horrible or esoteric device a very long time ago, like 2013 or so. So the idea was floating around for a very long time
I remember the line "longer than you think" stood out to me because it's a line from a short Stephen King horror(?) story called The Jaunt that had very similar themes, the line being spoken by someone who remained awake during an 'instant' teleportation instead of allowing the sleeping gas to knock him out like the other passengers
@@hardygal2this is mentioned in the video
@@godoftune Yep 👍 Was reading the comments as I was watching the video, so I hadn't gotten to that part at the time
I loved Soldier in this movie, because they nailed his goofy personality while somehow maintaining a serious tone.
"how did you know he wasn't gonna shoot you in the head"
"I didn't"
‘Who is this?’
‘It’s the voice of God, you son of a bitch! And I’m coming for you!’
@@FunnyValentineRE4L either way if he shot him in the head hewouldn’t be able to cause helmet
@@Bushman06 military helmets were not made to protect bullets and it cannot protect the wearer from the impact of a sniper rifle
It was meant more like to protect the wearer from debris, like shrapnel, grenade fragments, etc.
I feel bad for scout, his mom died, he thought it was medic, runs away from him just to be tortured by the electric drill, just for him to brutally turned into mush by the respawn machine. Also why did the flashback medic scare me so much 💀
It's likely Scout could have either been a clone, or straight up in a different part of the time loop crap. When he sees Medic in the bathroom in the bar he greets him and Medic smiles. It's interesting to think that during the 15 second respawn timer the mercs hang out at a bar.
@AlexXnotM i thought the why you kill her thing was in reference to pyro after he killed his mom before he died
I think it still was a vision. Every one of 3 were in it before medic and soldier meet. Thats when the visions stop. They only appear when they are alone. (Other than spy).
I said it before, and I’ll say it again.
Emesis Blue is an Sfm animation depicting how it feels to wait out a 15 second respawn timer.
Its eternity in there
It gets even worse, when timer is 21 seconds long
It's longer then you think
Or like waiting for the match end after dying in a no respawn server
@@romeokukita277he no respawn server is exactly what happened in emesis. One of the engineers got very pissed at the spy for exploiting some kind of special disguises and engineer broke the respaen machine.
The clones of BLU Soldier could also be an explanation to the army of BLU Soldiers that appear in Meet The Medic.
I'd like to mention that a BLU Soldier gets killed in every single valve meet the team video atleast once.
But in Emesis Blue he is the only one that makes it out alive.
Id also like to add that the mutated scout screaming is just scout screaming but slowed down
@@fish8415 to be fair, i know this will be very out of place but, perhaps the mutated scout was inspired by scp-096? when he first chases soldier, you can hear his screaming achoing in reverse, his arms at the front, has abnormally long arms and legs, and does not die no matter what (he got his head penetrated but still survived and attacked the giant heavy)
@@KannaDHD honestly man there are so many fucking references that this could also be one
They’re all clones right. I could have sworn that was already something in the lore as to how these morons keep fighting fr like 60 years
"Funerals are an absolute waste of money".
"Like war?"
That really hits hard
It does, especially from a "Young Man" who you wouldn't expect to have knowledge of war.
All this because of a fight over gravel….at least from the comic that’s what Mann brothers fought for
The Chauffeur was throwing shade at Blutarch then
@@isaacklein533 young men are exactly the demographic most affected by war
Seeing a Tf2 SFM take itself fully serious is absolutely insane.
Also I just want to clarify that I don’t mean to say that other Tf2 SFMs don’t take themself serious or put in effort. I am just tying to say that I’ve never seen anything done in SFM with so much care, references, and insane detail and horror
And I’ve also never seen something so insanely long done in SFM
@@thypeasantslayer3621tipsy is so morbid is loops back around to being funny
Not even taking into account a depiction of Soldier that is actually somewhat serious and isn't pure comic relief
Yea, especially with all the memes going around nowadays
The fact the movie uses so many references to other good titles just shows how much fun creators had.
And also those movie references have actuall plot relavence and weren't just thrown in for the sake of referencing like with the most high budget movies
@@supertrike5893 damn right
I'm kinda torn about all the references. While some like Demo in Dell's bar fit really well, others feel on the nose and almost out of place, especially shawshank redemption one and the "ol' regular zombies" sequence also feels out of place. Overall I feel like the amount of them hurts the movie a bit, doesn't let it fully stand on its own. At some points you start to think "how many of the scenes are references then?" and it detracts from the experience.
The chess moment between Plague Doctor and Medic was a good touch a lot of people could miss.
@@Fakheet I didn't know about any of the references since i'm not a movie guy, it still made a lot sense and i could connect many scenes with one another understanding their meaning for the narrative, so maybe it's just a knowledge curse that you have, since you know the references you wilfully disconnect them from the film reducing their comprehension value.
One cool detail is that, the Conagher who shot scout, said: „You look lost, boy.“ Later, when Dell meets Medic, he says: „You look lost, Stranger.“
Wait did the medic himself never respawn? I was assuming dell called medic stranger because the medic never found him self in respawn limbo cause he never respawned, he just undied like when his alter ego took over.
spy also says it to heavy in chapter 1 in 17:20 idk if this has any significance
@@Brutarii I came to the conclusion that Dell didn’t recognise him, because he has no eyes.
@@johannesneumayer6041 I thought it was the conagher who's glasses fell off after medic killed him
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i really like the depication of a traumatic experience on emesis blue, how soldier went from a vocal silly guy to silent and traumatized, really makes me feel bad for him
Fun Fact: If you listen to Scout’s mother’s last line of dialogue saying something about dinner, it might sound a bit scrambled, sorta like if someone patched together audio recordings to sound like someone.
If you replay it enough times I think you will notice mainly the pitches up voice
It also doesn't sound like a natural line delivery. It always unnerved me that she didn't sound upbeat about dinner. Instead relegating to sounding like Squidward after a long day of dealing with SpongeBob. And that adds to the atmosphere honestly because that just leads me to believe that she was dead either before Scout got home or while Scout was home. I opt for the first as it would make more sense instead of the murder happening during as Scout would probably hear it
i just went and rewatched the scene i never noticed it before but now that you mention it yeah
It sounds like text to speech. I thought it was weird that they didn’t hire a voice actress for her, but maybe it was intentional.
@@00M_Clanks I imagine it was intentional because it adds to the already unnerving atmosphere created from the reality warping happening with Medic and his office
If soldier is the most sane character in a movie, you know things are incredibly messed up 😂
Either that or he’s high on merasmus’s kill-me-make me stronger pills
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if it's soldier, we wouldn't even know if he's high or not
TFW you realize his off handed joke about not taking his meds is what ends up saving his life
@@TheRogueCommand Bad real life advice, but really good in the context of Emesis Blue 😅
Valium is used in real life to induce memory loss after certain medical procedures, mostly painful/traumatic ones. This makes perfect sense in this case. It's used to make the mercenaries forget the time between life and death.
Soldier never took them, and during the movie he cheats death many times, could it be that he's not respawned?
@@queenofvermin Yeah, actually. He's never respawned, because for some reason or another, soldier's been cloned instead. Soldier's never seen the other side, and that means there's nothing to forget.
To add to what Valium is used for irl and what TWS says about sniper, it might be that sniper HAS taken the pills like the other mercs have, and (at least for scout) it can be inferred that Scout and Sniper have died a similar amount of times before, but we see sniper die at least once in the film while in the slaughter house without the pills. Another thing for sniper to be SO mentally broken is that his body might be drug resistant (like mine is.) He may have taken these pills so much that not only is his body growing a tolerance to it so it feels like an eternity regardless of whether he takes them or not, his body might also relapse when he doesn't, making it worse. It would explain better why sniper laughs so manically when he first bleeds out, cause he already knows what's coming and is having a mental breakdown just thinking about it as we KINDA see with soldier, realizing what's happening at the funeral and breaks down mentally.
@@ArkanStrata why would Soldier be prescribed Valium if he hasn't been respawned? maybe to forget about the war?
@@asieor just standard procedure sense it’s reasonable enough to say he would respawn anyways otherwise why would he be considered respawn compatible.
The end is actually a good ending.
At the end Scout says "Hey doc!" to Medic. Indicating that when both of them died they met in purgatory.
"Til death do us apart"? *Laughs in Medic and Scout friendship*
Not really cuz its been theorized he gets revived by the respawn core in the briefcase and gets burned at the end, becoming the plague doctor and thus restarting the timeloop
he doesnt get to spend much time with scout sadly
Add the end, theres a theory that shows the silhouette is Fritz and he has respawned and surrounded by flames.
If that silhouette is Fritz, then his peace with Scout was only temporary and Fritz respawned
without Scout and could possibly change into the Undertaker
In Poker Night, Heavy actually mentions the respawn system puts him through some seemingly endless nightmares. That scene alone was probably the whole inspiration for this movie.
“I will make hat out of you, little bunny >:(.”
1:22:24 who gave spy the n-word pass???
@@ajgonzalezjrMax 😭
No they don't.
Heavy: Tiny Heavy.
Strong Bad: What is it?
Heavy: Do you get the nightmares?
Strong Bad: I get the Jibblie nightmares. There's this one where Homestar is a giant cheese blintz and Marzipan holds me at gunpoint and makes me eat him and... uhhh... Uh-oh! Jibblie, jibblie!
Heavy: I am talking about visions of endless suffering. Dead doctors, everywhere. Spy cannot be found.
Strong Bad: No, but that sounds like the Jibblies, man...
Heavy: I do not like this "Jibblies".
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One thing, the mercs ARE aware of respawn in game. Engineer has a few lines referring to it, like when Dominating a Heavy, he mays say "Never mind the bullets, how much are all those coffins costing ya'?"
That's probably just a reference to Heavy being a big guy and needing more than one coffin to contain him but it does fit in with the movie.
Snipers "See you in 5 minutes" kill line too
"Oh they'll have to glue you back together,IN HELL!"
"It costs $400,000 to fire this weapon for 12 seconds..."
I'm pretty sure he was referring to all the people heavy kills
Oh, and there's an... in lore explanation for the nightmares.
In a TF2 comic - when heavy was asked about respawning - he said that he thinks that all the lives he lived and died previously were "nightmares"
So yeah... this is actually a bit accurate to the lore, scarily enough.
Can you link me the comic?
Actually, I’m pretty sure that’s his lines from the Poker night game he’s in. The first one. He says that he then wakes up and “realizes” it was just a “dream”
Damn.
@@Kronosfobi As a comment mentioned it's the part where Heavy references them in Poker Night at the Inventory and believes they are just a series of nightmares
@@Kronosfobi For clarity: the past lives where he goes out of spawn and dies are nightmares. Not respawning in general.)
But still, this is... kinda scary. Considering one of medic's dreams are of a dump truck throwing out bodies into the canals in slaughterhouse indicates that he was still barely alive during that point, and he remembers his past life where he died.
I think the plague doctor is Death itself. His ultimate goal is to destroy the respawn machine, the only thing that can counteract him. It also explains why he's in Medic's nightmares and why they play chess, as that is what doctors do: fight back death. The only people who can see or interact with him are those who went through the respawn machine as they've died before. If the briefcase _does_ contain souls or the like, he's trying to collect what he's owed. When ordered to open it, Medic says "I can't, it's not mine." What does open it? _The crash that kills him._
He also drives a hearse, which is a bit on the nose but still fits.
I’m really getting sick of this trend in media of everything just being a representation of death
@@Joe_blow121 ok
@@Joe_blow121 So sorry that one of the only constants in life tends to strike a chord with most creatives. It's literally a horror movie about dying repeatedly what are you on
@@thecatboy7494 your mom
@@thecatboy7494 Diazepam probably
Note that in the Russian roulette scene the Soldier says "Your gonna make it Fritz." and Medic responds "I know." before shooting himself, which is related to his ability to revive.
I think the Soldier said that as confidence to reassure the Medic but he ironically didn’t make it (before coming back)
He shoot himself in different manner than Spy or Soldier
Perhaps the reason the sniper remembers all of his stasis is due to his differing fate from the rest of the characters. While every other mercenary gets a quick death, the sniper is the only character noted to have been left to bleed out slowly.
Similar in essence to how Ricky held his breath to not fall asleep, the sniper's consciousness wasn't able to end before he was brought back into the stasis.
Damn i knew those details were all important in some way, i just couldnt tie them together. This makes perfect sense!
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I think this idea also runs well with how we see Scout again when we're in Soldier and demo man's point of view because much like sniper he didn't have a quick death either he was slowly tortured by one of the engineers
Another idea is that both sniper and Scout seem to share something like this with the 10th class in the third experiment as he was shaky, and his fingers looked extended much like the Scout we see
It's also likely he just didn't take the Emesis pills. Simple as that.
Theory: the ending of the film where medic dies in the crash isn't actually the ending, it's the beginning. Note how medic's outfit has changed, he's no longer decrepit, and he respawns afterward. This is the event that started all the things that happened in the film and somehow, combined with the crash, whatever was in the briefcase was the catalyst for all the supernatural events as well as medics ability to resurrect himself.
That…could be it. Holy moly, this movie is a brain twister.
no, time-loop.
@@washmonument and I don't agree
and notice the eyes are the same as his vision of him killing scouts mother
@@infantry4lyfe252why did you even reply?
37:19 scout looks at medic with pleading eyes as if he regrets punching him, as if he knows who really did it
Theory: the pile of soldier bodies in Ketabasis is supposed to represent the huge amount of soldier mains that there are in the actual game
soldier mains without medic girlfriends*
I am one of them
@elkakasbadcontent2275 what happens when soldiers don't get their medicgf
I imagine one of them like me:
"I WILL KILL AS MANY PEOPLE AS I HAVE TO AS LONG AS YOU ARE ONE OF THEM!" *self critical*
All the failed rocket jumps
Emesis Blue is a really good representation of the average 2fort match
No it’s just the average timeline of a Medic main’s mental health after playing for a whole match.
heh, longer than you think
@@ΓιώργοςΣωμαράκης-ξ3ψ you deserve a medal for that joke
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Ah yes, never ending torment
This movie is the prime example of how to use references. They are there not to just make you feel good for recognizing them, they actually help you understand and even solve the plot beforehand
46:17 the fact that was really sniper shocked me ngl
This is known as allusion
Thw fact that a tf2 film understands this but lucasfilms doesnt is astounding.
Yes, I’ve never seen a reference and felt, “omg I have to keep watching this I’m so invested now,” before, but I was completely hooked as soon as M started playing. I could feel that it was purposefully going somewhere, and the sound design was fantastic. Very tasteful all the way through.
A theory I also like is that the Plague Doctor is a representation of Death, wanting the respawn machines gone so it can claim the souls of the always respawning mercenaries. "It's an eternity in there" because Death tries to hold onto them, tries to keep them dead, yet even so they always come back to life. The Plague Doctor distroting reality with it's very being as it is an entity beyond anything we could understand.
Edit: Some things that I found on a rewatch of the original that IMO play into this theory are:
1. Soldier immediately asks if the Plague Doctor is an undertaker, and Spy says "almost" as response, alluding that their job isn't that to an undertaker, but closely related.
2. The Plague Doctor gets stopped by police in "Purgatory Avenue" and after doing something to the police officer, soldier calls it "Purgatory".
3. In the short scene where Medic is trapped in the coffin, the Plague Doctor is the only other character there, calmly watching as someone already inside a casket, comes back to life.
Something I realised while watching the analysis: during Soldier WW2 hallucination, Medic is seen playing chess with the Plague Doctor, the latter whom moves a blue pawn as an opening. Remember at the beginning of the movie when Scout's face is seen above a chess board? Said board has one blue pawn in the middle of it, surrounded by red pieces, representing scout's being trapped in the scene. Blue pawn is the Scout. That opening move is sending the Scout (blue pawn) towards the medic. Meaning the Plague Doctor intended for Scout to somewhat notice his presence and go see the Medic for it, kicking in the events of the movie.
I just realized that
I dont think the plague doctor intended for scout to die because the plague doctor put him in the coffin to be saved by medic. Medic is obviously the only merc that can heal and plague doctor knows that. He wasnt suppose to run of and get shot. Plague doctor wasnt on any side he was watching.
noticeably, they also move the piece like a knight. it goes two ahead, one left; an illegal move.
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The fact that they made a near feature length film using the world and characters of TF2, animated it in the goofy meme animation engine, and somehow produced this incredible movie is so amazing to me. It's like peeforming a symphony orchestra with nothing but kazoos and tin cans and having it sound movingly beautiful. It's a massive achievement and I'm glad it's gotten so much attention and praise.
Near feature length? A feature length film is any film longer than 40 minutes. Emesis Blue passes that by an hour.
you mean the goofy porn animation engine
@MultiMonkyman You're right. I had just watched a 2 and a half movie before I wrote that comment, so my brain went "Ah yes, 2 hours and 30 minutes is the benchmark for a feature length film."
@@Potacintvervs I thought feature length was 90 minutes
That animation engine was my favorite animation engine to use because holy hell it was so crappy that it was funny
One detail I feel like people overlook during the scene in Scout's apartment is the change in the voice of his mom. At the beginning of the scene, her voice is natural sounding, and not choppy. But when she says "dinner's ready, dear" it sounds superficial and choppy, almost as if someone was impersonating her.
Also, every time I rewatch Emesis Blue I always catch a detail I never noticed in my previous watch.
Yes! I was thinking that while watching the video! The voice sounded like, "DinnErs REady DeAR." With sudden choppier sounding parts of the word. Reminded me a lot of the alternates in Mandela Catalog.
Yeah I noticed that I just thought they used ai voice for that part or something lol
I’m assuming that’s when Medic got to her
The fact that there is a lot of corpses of a blue soldier really reminds me of the meet the medic video, you can see that every blue opponent on the video is just soldier.
Film fact: There are 7 triple candles on top of Medic's coffin on one of his dreams, bringing up the fact that he has used up 7 of his 9 lives (that he surgically added to himself). He died 2 more times in this film before dying once more and then getting brought back to life by the Conagher Slaughterhouse's Respawn Machine.
Ok this confirmed my theory as to why dell called medic stranger when he showed up in respawn limbo, the medic just hasnt actually respawned before/yet, or its been really long since his last respawn and dells limbo bar hasnt existed yet.
@@Brutarii wow, the OP comment and this reply are great! really interesting thoughts
I thought that he has 7 life’s left because he died 2 times in the movie (3 if you’re counting the crash). What I think he kinda predicted his 2 deaths but not the 3rd one. I could be wrong so correct me if I am :)
I'm pretty sure the Plague Doctor represents death. Actual, final death.
And he's got a vendetta against the machine and more importantly, the people, who defy it so greedily.
Makes sense, too, why medic is usually depicted being at odds/fighting against him.
i think the plague doctor may be ether the 10th class or someone like dell.
in general i think the doctor is a victim who while unable to himself is trying to let the other's die and never be respawned maybe the hearse had his body and was set on fire as a cremation so his corpe's could not be used.
on another note iv just realized that.
were are they getting the material to make the respawned individuals body's.
considering the vehicle in hell i wouldn't be surprised if there using the dead body's in "hell" to make them.
edit: im at the end of the video and i just realized the plague doctor has glowing eye's.
and dell were's glowing goggle's in the seen were he's talking with demoman.
I align more with this idea too. He's the other side of the coin to Medic. I think it's well presented in soldier's nightmare, where death is Playing chess with medic, a person who's job in a war is to prevent death. It's a lifelong feud for these two, one that loops.
@@Grumpdump that would imply it's a competition and the p doctor would want death in general or to stop people cheating death
@@Beowolf-jy5rccorrect.
I came here to see if anyone else had this opinion. And I'm quite glad you do. I'm fully with you. It also explains why they want the case. It's the souls of the dead they're owed and they've come to collect.
I'd be interested to see who and why the heavy was set up to exchange the souls. But I feel like there will always be unanswered questions.
There's one more tie-in to Spy's Disguise you missed. The scene at the end of the film where medic crashes the ambulance actually happens directly after Spy's Disguise. If you look closely, the scar on his cheek matches the one he has in that video, something he had nowhere else in Emesis Blue. So assuming Spy's Disguise took place before the events of Emesis Blue, that's actually the first time we see him die.
Holy shit I think you’re onto something
Damn!
The movie really isn't in chronological order goddamn. Perhaps when Medic dies in the ambulance, he wakes up in his office at the beginning of the movie, having imagined the events of Spy's Disguise as a dream or (due to the diazepam) a vague memory which he quickly forgets as Jeremy knocks on his door. As for the Plague Doctor, it could be death about to take Medic for good, only for the time loop to save him at the last second.
But then, how did this medic get the briefcase?
@@BlackReaper0 I guess he started out with it, which gives a good explanation as to why he'd be so interested in getting it back during the film. As to why he has it, your guess is as good as mine.
1:41:40 You see a soldier that has somehow reached a elderly age. A blood brother technically.
One thing I don’t see people ever notice or point out, is when the red Demo man is frozen, he isn’t holding the grenade out at first, but after the heavy becomes present the Demo man is suddenly holding out the grenade while now also looking at soldier. Even though we know the Demo man is reasonably dead, he’s able to move his body to help soldier (via holding up the grenade for soldier).
rip a real one frfr
he also has both eyes for some reason
Of course, he literally drops the grenade after soldier pulls the pin.
His last act of life to save another’s
time stamp pls
What I love about the phrase "longer than you think" is that you can take it the obvious route (The jaunt/respawning is longer than anything our minds could possibly imagine) but you can also take it literally.
The Jaunt/Respawn is quite literally longer than what your mind is capable of producing thought for.
Take your most boring moment, a moment you were straight up struggling to come up with any thoughts for an extended period of time while doing nothing.
Take that moment and extend it not just for a lifetime, but multiple.
It's longer than you think.
Nice theory anyway nice pfp!
@@omegablaze135 If you're curious, that profile picture is Neko, the main character of the indie game One Shot.
@@StanleyNumber427 Yep I know
It maybe just means it takes longer than you would think it would (considering goddamn the tf2 respawn times take forever I can't survive in non fast respawn servers)
But take this with a grain (or 25) of salt cuz I just skipped the entire film due to scaredness
Coming back and actually trying to watch now
Ngl I've watched so many scary things as a child that I've basically corrupted my mind into asking ,,what if x monster came out of the dark/was behind this door and killed me" that this is nothing
Fact that everybody who watched it Is saying that its the masterpiece explains absolutely everything
>tf2g
I once met a guy in 2fort saying that emesis blue is mid.
okay, emesis blue was so fucking good i watched it again which almost never happens with me. might just watch it again.
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@@sunrupuk9634 to be fair the movie does kind of mid-ify the mercs. These people are complete psychos and professionals in their psycho field, and the movie just removes that by making them weak mentally weak. In meet the sandwich even soldier screamed "you red team ladies wouldn't know how to break a spine-" while he was basically murdered by heavy, which says a lot about how the real mercs would've reacted to all that was happening
A small but very visible detail in Scout's apartment when Medic checks in on him. When Medic sees the M and then the knocking, at the moment of him falling and hitting his head you can see the very same hallway with no M written on the wall. This further implies that Medic is losing his shit.
I was also thinking that the M on the walls could actually stand for Maynard, one of the two engies. But its probably not. Ludwig could probably draw em while going insane.
But who knows, it xould be even be the plague doctor.
Am i not he only one here who thinks M is for medic?
the M stands for mcdonalds
The M symbol is actually a reference to the classic movie called 'M', made in 1931, by Fritz Lang, a German director. The movie is about a child killer.
There are some things in that movie that are relevant to Emesis Blue. For example, in the film, the killer had a habit of whistling the song "In the Hall of the Mountain King." In Emesis Blue, when Scout turned to his right, he suddenly heard the same song being whistled by someone.
@@StanleyNumber427This is covered by the video, just an fyi
Soldier being cloned could be a reference to "Meet the Medic", where a mob of soldiers with differing hats can be seen attacking Red team before being mass slaughtered by Heavy and Medic.
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It's worth mentioning that the RED and BLU team are different people in the lore, and we only follow the RED team. Although RED soldier is a maniac who was never a proper soldier, BLU soldier could very well be a maniac that is a former soldier
But isn't Dell Conagher canonically a BLU employee?
He's both.
I thought demo, heavy, spy, pyro, and medic were on red while soldier, scout, engi, and sniper were on blu.
@@GHefly445I thought so too, considering all the promotional material and comics show this.
im confused i thought it focused on the blu team
I actually think that Demoman's death is actually not only poetic, but a perfect end to his character. I mean, think about it. This poor bastard has been dismembered and resuscitated for god knows how long for someone else's sick amusement, yet only in the comforting embrace of the cold can he finally properly rest. Sure, freezing to death is an unpleasant way to go, but it's clear that not only did he not actually suffer, since he managed to see Conagher one last time before passing on, but the way he died was perfectly crafted by fate itself to make sure he suffers no longer, even in death. His body is perfectly perserved in ice, with no deformations present aside from the one he already had. If anyone ever tried to deform him further, he would just crumble. No longer will he have his body mutilated beyond recognition, for the cold embrace of death itself has made sure that no-one will ever be able to touch him with the intent to harm ever again.
this is legitimately poetic. no further comment needed.
@@pintlebert921 indeed it does
I mean even if hes frozen you could still mutilate him,but there would be no point on torturing a dead body besides some sick entertainment
Based on some of the near death reports I have read hypothermia is (relatively speaking) a pretty comfortable way to go. According to these reports the victim will experience a comfortable growing warmth until they are unconscious.
Hypothermia is actually a pretty calm demise, all things considered. After a point, your brain stops working, and you feel warm and things slow down.
Also, his body is 100% mutilated, a grenade went off in his lap. He's gonna look like he hit his kill bind.
The Emesis Diazepam being from 1963 while the timeline is in 1968 probably is to give us a clue as to why the medication started to just give them all of the side-effects, it's expired past its effectiveness. If the Diazepam was to be fresh, as in, from 1968, the Mercenaries could probably go on about their Mercenary lives without noticing the effects of the Respawn Machine, however that's not what happens, the Diazepam is expired, it gives them Memory Loss shortly before being respawned, that way none of the Mercs remember what happened to their previous body, what happened before, and just don't remember being executed, unless of course, the Diazepam was always designed to give them Memory Loss and all of the side-effects, so that none of the happenings before respawning are remembered.
90% of drugs work well past a decade of their manufacture date, though I could be wrong
This analysis really helped me contextualize some of the minor details I glossed over when I first saw emesis blue, but I do have one objection to make. Your thoughts on the non-linearity of time feel convoluted in a way they don't need to be, though having watched your video to the end I understand how that specific detail is crucial to your take away of the film.
Rather than the whole situation being an endless loop repeating with each character only having vague memories. I believe, quite simply, that when they say "it's eternity in there" they mean it literally. They might not spend an actual eternity in what is for all intents and purposes purgatory but they do stay for "longer than you think" and during that time they can experience Any Moment in eternity and in a weird homage to the movie interstellar the mercs can not only witness moments from their pasts and futures but interact with them.
Other than that it was a lovely video.
Just a few interesting tidbits I've noticed that I didn't quite see mentioned:
1. "Emesis" is the clinical term for vomitting. Your body only tries to vomit in response to immense physical or mental distress. Emesis might be forcibly induced on someone who's ingested poison.
2. Diazepam/Valium is REALLY NOT MEANT FOR LONG TERM USE LIGHTLY. It wouldn't be used for chronic insomnia. The withdrawl symptoms are god awful, and misuse of diazepam can cause antegrade amnesia (can't form new memories properly), suppression of REM sleep (which causes increased aggression, hallucinations, difficulty concentrating), and dizziness. Also, while it's a drug that passes through your body relatively quickly, you would NOT prescribe 25mg dose straight up. Safe use of Valium is in the 1-10mg range, with several hours in between doses. In other words, Medic has been taking meds that are melting his brain the whole film - is it a surprise that he's an unreliable protagonist?
3. However...it's worth noting that Valium has a shelf life of 5 years. If the medicine is from 1963, and the films events are in 1968, five years later...
4. The Medic emerging from a flaming Respawn machine could be a reference to TF2's lore, where Medic sold his soul to the Devil, but stole 9 other souls. If his death in the ambulance is his final death, and the respawn machine is gone, then...he only has one place left he can go.
I’m glad you mentioned the date on the bottle of pills. Instead of it being some kind of time loop, I took it as BLU giving the mercs expired meds that they slapped a label over (probably to save money).
Like you said, it’s no wonder the mercs are losing it, taking expired medication, especially Diazepam causes it’s effects to weaken, making a person (like Medic) take more and more of it to counteract that and probably upping the side effects significantly.
The fourth one actually makes really good sense
He better have a very good talk with scout in the bathroom, cuz médic aint coming back after that...
I left a separate comment explaining my full take on this, but the medic dies 3 times in the movie. In the TF2 comics it is stated that the devil only needs a majority share in the medic's souls to permanently keep him in hell, and in the same comic medic loses two of his souls to the devil - one for dying, and one in exchange for the devil's pen. In total, the medic has 9 souls, and by the end of emesis blue, he has died 5 times, which is just enough for the devil to have a majority share in his life.
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1:10:26 What is (if it is true) kinda terrifying is that in the Manual Respawn of Scout the Terminal states that it sequences his Genomes, Skeleton, Nervous System, Muscle Tissue, etc and when it comes out with an Error it outputs just liquid (which is almost definitely blood because of the colour). Because whatever was inside gave a horrified scream, that would imply that he was fully conscious for that short period as he essentially fell apart.
I think that is exactly what happened.
He was a fully conscious, half formed meat puppet that got exploded into a big ol' splash of blood.
I have a question: does this have any connection to Scout turning into an SCP 096-like creature?
@@StanleyNumber427 Hm. I mean the two-face bootleg Medic is also exactly like the scout. That medic was using some sort of substance that brought heavy back to life which DID however turn him into fucking Nemisis from Resident Evil and could not die. He got stabbed in the eye, blown up with a rocket... the only thing that stopped them was a burning building that collapsed on him and even then we don't know if it actually killed them. Seeming the deformed Scout was stabbed in the brain with a crowbar and then after soldier looks away moments later the Scout is now gone.. probably like a repeat cycle? We did see soldier repeat when he saw the future soldier talking to demo man so perhaps it's instead just a loop and his body just got 'reset' in a way.
I was always under the impression that Medic bringing Scout back was in the past (like how solider throws a crowbar at himself) and what Medic does ends up making Scout into that monstrosity
@@jogclemson4430 could very well be the case. No one actually knows what the real reason for everything Is. I guess that's what makes it enjoyable.
Genius idea to tie in the time loops of the film with the reuploads of the video
bravo thewhat
@@TheWhatShow does it also get worse with every reupload like in the time loops
@@maybe-ef4ch Next reupload half of the screen will be blurred when there is a single drop of blood.
@@TheWhatShow You should totally do a thing where the reuploads get worse overtime
my eyes hurt
1:34:30 I wanna point out that the sound here is actually the sound of the Aztec Death Whistle, which is a skull-shaped device that warriors would blow before they engaged in war, typically to scare their opponents and effectively tell them of their fate beforehand.
i have ptsd related to medical trauma and when i watched emesis blue - i was actually stunned. somehow some goofy tf2 sfm has been the best portrayal for ptsd i’ve ever seen. the constant flashbacks, losing understanding on your current reality, paranoia of who and what you’ve become. it’s incredibly distressing yet incredible at the same time
As another person with PTSD, first off, sorry dude, I know that it’s rough. Second, you’re absolutely right. They portray it startlingly well.
I like to believe that why Demo has his eye back is because it's October 31st. Halloween. Something very fun happens to his eye every halloween, so it was just getting REALLY close to becoming Monoculus and really spicing up the night.
damn, it fucked up time, went in a loop, then just decided to move onto november
But from the comics we know that Medic always tried to give Demoman a new eye, which functioned until Halloween and got haunted. So therefore technically the eye doesn't appear by Halloween itself, Demoman's cursed eye socket haunts his new eye every year
Man maybe thats why his not longer missing eye on this scene is so ghouly-looking
Something interesting is that during Chapter 2, Scout's conversation with his mother sounds fine, but the line "dinner's ready, dear." shifts pitch multiple times, like it's an emulation of her voice rather than her. The chessboard is also completely set up in the background during the beginning of the chapter, but shifts to the surrounded pawn with no apparent cause for the cinematic shot. It's interesting to note that both of these changes occur immediately after Scout takes the Valium. Maybe implying that the medication is what seals his fate and brings him back into the loop, unlike Soldier who never takes any of it?
Also when I watched THAT scene, I caught at least 3 pitches, I could be wrong but that's how many I saw.
i wonder if sniper's tape recorder is supposed to be like a Checkhov's gun, to imply that he's behind all the recordings.
I think they just ran out of useable voice lines
@@thevoicesaregettinglouder16????
Soldier might be special because of it, he’s the only one who seemed to make it out safe.
So I have a mini theory about what is going on, especially with the emesis diazepam.
Emesis means “the action or process of vomiting” aka a fancy term for throwing up what’s in your stomach, and as you mentioned, diazepam is for alcohol withdrawal and anxiety, and Valium being another name for the diazepam.
Saying this, I believe that the hallucinations that all the mercs are seeing are their mental “emesis”, a throwing up of their own psychosis and the effects of the respawn machine.
Medic having some sort of split personality, red light being the emesis of his own sins. The medical malpractice he has done in the past, seeing what happened to a previous version of the blue spy, his own personal mental health deteriorating over the course of this movie.
Scout being mentally and physically disabled by the machine, and being the reason why medic is having his “emesis” response to everything.
Soldier being brought back to the war via simple things being more akin to a ptsd driven flashback, having his emesis respond being less extreme than medics because he didn’t take the Valium. Maybe the reason why he managed to live is because of the fact that his “emesis” was not amplified by the medication, compared to everyone else’s.
Again, the monster scout being the main reason why he had those flashbacks to the war, the reason for his “emesis” of his mental issues of possible ptsd from World War Two.
The medication brings out the worst in the mercs, heavy’s job mentality and hunting down his past teammates, spy arrogance and smoking habits ending with him burned and shot to death, medic psychosis and split personality becoming worse after every death, scout being a both a metaphorical and physical monster to everyone in the slaughter house, engineer being the bartender, demo’s relapse in the bar and subsequent death, snipers being extremely aggressive post revival, pyro menacing aura being worse without their more childlike behavior, all becoming worse people after taking the medication… all accept soldier.
Soldier was the only one who appeared to never take the pills, his “emesis” being tamer and much less frequent than the others thanks to it. His “emesis” being a result of ptsd than the medication, and it appears that he is respawned differently than the other mercenaries.
I’m not going to theorize about soldier and the implications of him being frozen in test tubes in the lab, but I have ideas.
Tdlr: the medicine the blue team takes is making them hallucinate and turning them into worse people than before, soldier is the only one not effective by it as he doesn’t take it. The medicine has an effect that can basically be said as a mental vomiting of one’s own issues, and it is amplified by the respawn machine thanks to it.
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Sniper: "How many times have you died, I'm actually gettin' impressed."
Scout: "Go ahead, rage quit. Yeah, I dare ya, make us both happy."
These lines, along with many others, do infact indicate that they're fully well aware of their dying/respawning in-game. This isn't even including the domination acknowledging voice-lines which only occur when killing the same enemy three times without them killing you.
Yeah, they're aware, and they clearly don't care.
I choose to believe this is because tf2 canonically uses the same respawning as from STBlackST's gmod animations where you drop something related to them in a bucket and they pop out unharmed
emesis blue: respawning happens and it fucks people up, mind, body and soul
canon tf2: respawning happens and none of the mercs give a shit, instead accepting it as a part of life
holy shit the indomitable human spirit
@@shatteredcrystal0909 nah sthu tf2 characters are just giga chads
Emesis Blue had me on edge the entire time and it was a super uncomfortable experience for me. 10/10 great horror without any cheap tricks, just pure mindfuck.
yeah, i'm never watching it again. i feel like i just lost my mind
1:16:50 the fact that the both movies are connected is amazing 👏
For real, uncomfortable but /pos
I finish watching emesis blue, i was shook at the end.
Emesis blue had me edging the whole time
1:43:13 one thing to note is that blutarch crashes into the black hearse, meaning its possible the plague doctor crashed into him on purpose
With the time loop, the entirety of Medic hitting back twice as hard as scout advised, and Medic's little black outfit at the end nearly matching the plague doctor, along with his deformities giving him a reason to wear the mask, seem to line up with Medic now finishing up what Medic failed to do.
@@fattestroyal198this is genius
“ Builders league..”
The What show: nothing can stop this man.
The building: are you sure about that?
[SPOILERS] The plague doctor is absolutely the medic after he respawns at the end of the film. He's the representation of the entity trying to take hold of medic throughout the film, and the one that does just before medic dies and respawns. Also, he is marked with "M", supposed stating that he is the killer of scout's mom, but he didn't. But, if he had come back as the plague doctor, then technically he WAS the killer. Plus, the medic drives exclusively an ambulance, a symbol for life, and the plague doctor drives exclusively a hearse, a symbol for death.
legit same thought
Thought so as well
i have the same theory but i think the plague doctor is medic after respawing and using the time loop to travel back in time to kidnap scout in order to make the mercs destroy the spawing machine also the reason why scout was so mad a medic when he tried to rescue him.
Also the plauge doctor and Medic were seen playing chess is soldier's war flashback. It's Medic and his psyco side vying for control with the psyco side taking form as the plauge doctor, possibly to help connect the dots that Medic and the doctor are the same.
@@highbahamut6188my thoughts exactly! I made a comment going into a bit more detail for the theory
Soldier not taking his meds is the most in character thing ever done.
A theory I have on why Scout seems more messed up by the respawn machine than everyone else comes from a Reddit thread, someone on Reddit asked which class dies the most often and I saw a lot of people say the Scout due to his low health, fast paced and rush down style of gameplay. So if Scout is the one dying the most then he is also the one respawning the most which could explain why the Respawn machine has messed him up more than the others.
Sounds like the same thing that happens when you copy a VHS over and over again, it degrades. Imperfections are magnified over generations.
@@agquadman thats incredible
@@agquadbasically what Generation Loss is 😛
@@prettys4313let's also not forget this fucking twig drinks things with enough sugar to cause cancer. So all in all I fell like the scouts horrible bodily damage compounded the issue
If you pay attention to Scout's medical report you will notice that it's written as patient SC-10498 as a way to refer to Scout. we can guess that SC is short for Scout Class while the number is probably how many times scout respawned AFTER the trials for the respawn machine were completed so Scout probably died and respawned way more times
1:47:00 Adding onto to that, this is a big stretch but, Memento Mori is latin for 'remember you must die' and is basically the symbol for an inevitable death. With the M being painted throughout the movie it could be a refrence to Momento Mori and basically telling all the characters that its finally time for them to die for a finale time :o
So strange that the other version of this video got age-restricted, but the original is not
yeah youtube’s algorithms are more mysterious then emesis blue
@@Masked_Felon youtube ARG ?!?!?!?!
What even is TH-cam lmao
@@SpikeForrestGaming “ A miserable pile of secrets!”
42:15 the alter ego doesn't actually take over Medic's body when he's unconscious, he takes over when Medic is _dead._ You see, a hard blow to the back of the head can result in death, which is what happened the first time over.
but what about when he took a nap in his ambulance? that is alluded to have been when he killed scout's mother alongside pyro. assuming he is indeed a sleeper agent, him napping would've been the trigger for him to kidnap scout alongside pyro after scout told him about his plans to sue builder's league. him getting knocked out by the counter would've merely been the trigger to get rid of any witnesses.
@@thebestfontever no like the video said I’m pretty sure the murder was done by Pyro and Plague Doctor/ 10th class.
@@janetmontalvo6944you can see medics glove behind the head when he drops it, medic 100% killed scouts mom
@@storm_fling1062 not really? you see a grey outline of fingers, not anything concrete. I think it was probably the plague doctor who did it.
@@storm_fling1062 You can see the car driven by the plague doctor in front of scouts house as he enters the house.
I think a quote I really like concerning what immortality would actually put a mortal being through goes like this; "Immortality isn't living forever, it's dying forever." It feels right at home in Emesis Blue itself, honestly.
In Russia, if hand is rotten, you cut off hand. If arm is rotten, you cut off arm. But if heart is rotten... you cut off leg. This is Russian love song.
you are the justin y of thewhat show
@@TheFakeBigMikey Ah, so that's where I remember him from. He's a commenter?
This is from Doctor Who and I appreciate that.
1:41:33 Fortress Films did a great job using the Original laugh used by Soldier by the late Rick May. And how they used his scream for when the Heavy was crushed by the burning building was also great
1:57:28 I think the reason the Sniper remembers is because of how he died, he bleed out. When the other characters died, it is (relatively) quick, but the Sniper's slow death could mean that he was "awake" when he died, similar to how the son in "The Jaunt" was awake during the teleportation and remembered his time in stasis. This also makes his hatred of Soldier more understandable, him wanting the Sniper to bleed out is the reason for the torture he experienced in the respawn machine.
If that true, would it also apply to scout? Being slowly tortured to death by one of the brothers.
That makes total sense
ooh i like this theory. Maybe his torture lead to an excruciating respawn time which ended up turning him into the scout monster. And his respawn file corrupting too as well?@@dantuu1648
@@ArthurOrtigosa that was the red scout
scout got turned into a pool of blood
What struck me was how self serving the Spy was. He killed his fellow mercs on Archibald's orders for power. How Spy realised Archibald was the cause of all their problems I don't know but maybe he just realised that if it hadn't been for Archibald, he wouldn't be here. Still the Russian Roulette piece shows just how self serving Spy is. He directs his anger at Soldier, to which Soldier mentions taking a bullet for him. To a normal person that action would mean something but to someone as selfish as Spy it's nothing. I believe he has Medic there is for an outcome that would benefit Spy. Soldier dies, he has perceived revenge for Soldier running, he dies the pain and problems are over, Medic dies and he can seize power. Ironic how Spy's plans all come to nothing in the end.
I think Spy killed Archibald to take Archibald’s place. Kinda like when the son of a king kills his own father for the throne.
@@stellaanderson570that and also I think Spy was the one to shoot the camera monitor that overlooked Archibald’s conversation with Goldman that revealed he was the one pulling the strings to drag out the war between the brothers
Don't forget his 'reward' for helping Archibald was a car, now blown up (by his own stupidity) and an assistant in Soldier...who drives him up the wall.
i love how the trailers for emesis blue are done in the analog horror aesthetic, whereas the film is done in the style of classic psychological/supernatural horror. the team behind this clearly have a strong love for the horror genre and it shows. they did fantastic with this
12:02 I took an AP psychology class, and everyone in the room, including the teacher, figured Freud was on something when he came up with certain ideas.
38:32 41:28 It’s these moments where, rewatching the movie, it suddenly clicks that Maynard always acted like a blind man. With how far Medic was peeking over the desk, there’s no other logical reason that Maynard wouldn’t’ve seen him when the phone rang. And also, while he has the shotgun, Maynard doesn’t shoot until Medic yells loudly, which tips Maynard off to his position in the room. He’s someone who works and fights relying entirely on his hearing.
Not trying to be a dick but how does he play the piano? Then again now that I think abt it he could be a professional that’s done it for ages and once he presses one key he can locate the others easily. But you’re right abt the way he acts and moves like a deaf person it’s rly interesting.
Blind people can play the piano. Soldier even makes a crack about Ray Charles, a blind pianist.
@@Jager113 Your answer is probably right, when you get used to something you can locate it easily. Even when im not seeing my keyboard i just type. matter of fact i'm writing this while looking at the screen just locating the keys, brain memory i guess.
@@Jager113 What can prevent him from playing on a piano?
Damn, you're right.
I think rather than being the 10 class, the plague doctor simply represents another side of medic. Whether it’s more time loop shenanigans, or more likely, some sort of anomaly created by a respawn attempt with the medic, explaining why the two can be in different places.
On a less serious note, i’d like to imagine that the respawn machine has a 100% success rate for saxton, bc even the machine itself is scared of a “brought back wrong” saxton hale
I doubt Saxton has ever even died. The dude is an Australian but we know from the comics after the last of the Australium was used up the Australians turned into wimps (British) yet later he's seen fighting the robots completely fine. Considering how Australium was being use to extend lifespan the fact he was not effected by the Australium Drought leads me to believe that Saxton is immortal and unkillable, through some sort of folktale esque legend or that he's an experiment of some kind. I would love to see the 7th comic expand on Saxton as a character even more than it did in issues 1-6.
Maybe the plague doctor is the medic at the end of the movie, respawned and ready to reenact the time loop again and again
@@lotion5238I always seen it as a mix of genetics (his grandfather was jacked) and a bit of Australiam being put into him, so yeah
YOU GUYS ARENT LOOKING AT THE LOOOOOOORRRRREEEE
If saxton hale was respawned in the machine and "came back wrong." we'd all be dead.
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I also figured out that none of the red pieces are in the spot to kill the blue piece, implying that scout won’t die,at least not in his house.
Interestingly i find the chess pieces to be signaling his role as just a pawn with no power in bigger game surrounded by powerful pieces that take control of his fate
I have a theory, that one of the reasons, why there are so many corpses of Soldier, is the "Meet the Heavy" video.
My favorite clip/scene is definitely scout getting the phone call in his house, and looking slooooowly to his right...to see his mother's face peeking out from around the corner. It's a simple shot composition, and SO SO effective. You can tell something is horribly wrong, the silence, the blank look on her face, the stark contrast between her and the darkness of the room. My gut reaction was that he was hallucinating, in a nightmare, with his mother acting as some sort of entity.
And then...her head falls to the ground. Disconnected, severed. There's a glimpse of a hand (if I remember correctly) as it releases the head, then slides out of sight. We sit on this horrific beat for a moment, then the camera pans left, and the Mute's mask looms from the darkness, stark and white like the deceased woman's face was. Cut to black.
I had to pause the video and look around my room for a second, it gave me chills. Really good job there.
My favourite scene is 55:53
Mutant scout coming in clutch 56:47
also, when scout turns, the symbolism in the chess board really does it for me. The use of color in this film is absolutely phenomenal
The whistle really unsettled me
Those fingers dropping the head got me so bad. I swear it was like I zoomed into the scene and slowed it down. Heard that happens during fight or flight mode so yeah 10/10 scene
A few things to point out:
1. I don’t think it was Dell who was calling Maynard, if it were, he wouldn’t be asking where his brother is, although he is talking to the Unknown caller as if he knows who he is.
2. According to the official script of this sfm on their Patreon, when Maynard was talking on the phone with the Unknown caller, in the ‘UNINTELLIGIBLE’ subtitle, he actually said “Forget the test subjects I think we’ve been compromised.” The test subjects could be referring to the soldier clones, Stalingrad (The mutated heavy), or the other mutated mercenaries.
3. Dells’ grandfather is Radigan Conagher, the man who built the machine that allowed Blutarch and Redmond to live longer, but could he also be respawn compatible?
Respawn compatibility could be genetic, but that's total conjecture
I think it was Dell who called, as when picking up the phone the Connager brother says "hey Dell, you haven't called me in a while". This signifies that it was at least Dell's phone number, and maybe people calling from the afterlife have their voices altered to the point of you not being able to recognise them.
@@the_parasitesi think some other guy at dustbowl used dells phone to call maynard
now that I think about it in the tf2 comics the older models of the immortality machine brought the brothers back from the dead, each respawn taking longer and longer than the last until Engineer fixed it
HOWEVER
the Emesis blue story is taking place in a world where the brothers ( Blutarch and Redmond ) did have a discussion with one another but weren't killed by grey since they're still alive and one of them referenced the "pregnancy machine" when he was talking to Archibald, something the two brothers had the idea of about in the comics mere minutes before they were killed by grey mann
so it's unlikely it was Engineer's grandfather that made the machine since even the testing of the respawn machine was taking place that many years later
which likely means that his grandfather wouldn't have been alive by the time the respawn machine was made and makes it hard for him to be respawn compatible if that was the case
unless we're assuming that Radigan is the soldier we see in the beginning of the movie or that the respawn machine somehow existed as far back as 30 years before (he's been dead for 30 years) in 1948 and that the pregnancy machine has nothing to do with the actual tf2 comics but instead an idea the brothers had much earlier to increase the number of their soldiers
I wrote a rather lengthy post about my take on this film over on the TF2 subreddit. I don't have access to the Patreon, I didn't know they had the script released there! I cut the unintelligible audio out and edited it to hear what it actually said. I got pretty close!
I do believe it was Archibald on the other side of the call.
I think something else that's interesting is how in the same WWII halucination soldier had, scout was climbing a ladder/stairs and gets shot in the head, at 52:30 it's almost the same thing with scout climbing up a staircase and getting hit in the same place that he got shot in during the hallucination.
Good catch, I entirely missed that.
Despite Emesis Blue being a collage of shots and direct references to its inspirations, it is an absolute masterpiece, using the direct references to spin its own unique and twisted story. And on top of that, SFM, like you said, is a very old software, it’s INSANE that the creators were able to pull off such beautifully done and horrific scenes with such old software.
This film was the result of a tf2 addiction, a love for films, WAYYYYY too much free time and a passion for quality and source filmmaker. F*cking brilliant.
They took how it feels to wait the 20 seconds and made it into a sentence at the start.
Click read more if you don't know what I am talking about.
"It's eternity in there"
This entire film is just a cleverly disguised ad for red pens
Pass Me a Red Pen
I love red ink
Everyone has a red pen
Anyone got a red pen?
nah its an ad for red food dye
One problem with Soldier supposedly not being in the time loop due to not taking the medicine,
He's still in the loop. Without Soldier the loop is broken, Spy would've never made it past the Sniper in the sewers without Soldier.
Soldier is essential to the loop, meaning that there is something else keeping him tied to it. Otherwise, the entire loop would be different.
Arguably this could be the purpose of the soldier clones
It could also just be an issue with the time loop theory
What
Maybe Soldier's own eventual death in his life afterwards puts him back in the stasis dimension for the machine, and therefore, back in the loop?
I don’t think it’s just the medicine causing all of this. I think the general area around the Slaughterhouse, and by association the Respawn Machine, is experiencing a warped time space. That’s why there's this huge loop. I think that by destroying the Machine, the loop was broken, which I think is why Medic finally died at the end of the film.
1:03:43 i'm just at this current timestamp but i note this after having watched the movie, dell talks about seeing "mainly *strangers*". at the end of the movie, when medic is at dell's (oh i realize that DELL. yknow the dead engie who tended to the demo's bar) he's greeted by "you look lost, *stranger*"
I adore Emesis Blue not just for the horror atmosphere, but because the horror is actively fighting to devour the comedy, as if the tone itself is a character that's fallen victim to the circumstances. You can FEEL the goofier nature of TF2 fighting its own battle to lighten the mood a bit, but it just isn't enough. The jokes start dying and twisting into something cruel and unfamiliar.
Heavy's "It's a job" mentality means he's the first to turn on everyone he used to work for.
Scout's idiocy is a result of him being permanently maimed from the inside out because the process only barely worked on him.
Soldier stops sounding quite so amusingly crazy and starts seeming lucid compared to the horrors he's being put through.
Medic's malpractice haunts him now that he's not distracted by the warfare.
Spy's rogueish confidence gave way to arrogance, delusion and self-sabotage long ago.
Pyro's mind is so broken that it's like sand made of glass shards at this point. It's hard to tell there ever was anything weird until it's cutting you open just from contact rather than just feeling irritating at times.
Sniper's bound and determined to die as little as possible, and this story is what finally pushes him over the edge into joining his comrades.
Demoman only seems to be holding himself together because he's able to avoid much incident to start with thanks to demolitions being such a careful job.
And Engineer... Engineer knew most of all what was going on since he's the tech expert in charge of keeping everything in working order, and on top of his already withdrawn and arm's length nature, whatever he knew has left him so deeply isolated from society overall that no one's even sure he's alive anymore, or that what he is now could count AS living.
My theory about The Undertaker is that he is the Medic's alternate persona... but not specifically from THIS point in time. Those who go through the respawn machine can certifiably affect certain things through those weird space-time fractures. When Medic saw himself smiling with broken teeth and gouged-out eyes, he wasn't seeing a hallucination. He was seeing himself just after the car crash after he woke up again, but it WAS really him, fresh off the realization that something about him has twisted him into something else.
The Undertaker, I believe, is The Medic at the culmination of his obsession and exertion over the situation that unfolded at the Slaughterhouse, existing non-linearly throughout space-time, trying to lead things to a conclusion that he feels will put an end to everything, based on both what he's seen himself do, and what he intuited from others reactions that night. It would also account for why he's a physical entity, yet keeps vanishing in unexplained ways. It's the exact same process as Soldier beaning himself with a crowbar or Medic knocking over the VHS tapes, but he's using his time far more directly.
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I ain't reading allat. Jokes aside nice analyzing
This comment needs to be higher.
Pyro is unaffected. He is just being himself
I think Fortress Films' TF2 films take place in a different canon from the official TF2 storyline, one that's a bit more mellowed out in exchange for grimness, and not nearly as absurd.
One small detail that I noticed is when Demo and Soldier finds Archibauld, when he wakes up he has a stitched head wound exactly where the Spy shot him earlier, indicating Archibauld's personal hell
I related it to lobotomy, since that's where the incision would be.
@@amohotepv a lobotomy is an ice pick through the top of the eye socket isn't it? and does he appear to be lobotomized to you?
@@Luuncho no, a surgical lobotomy is done via incisions and leaves a scar that is identical to the one on his brow.
@@amohotepv looks like you’re wrong on this one
@@Luuncho well, I just looked it up and it looks like I'm right, so I don't know where you're getting your info from but it isn't right.
Medic being alive in the respawn machine during the fire is brilliant, and leaves so many questions…
One thought I had...
In the Emesis Diazepam teaser, it's listed that the medication is compounded specifically for each perscribed patient. Perscription medication, such as Ritalin and Dexamphetamine, do have unintended effects on those not perscribed for it. My thought is that, given how many bottles can be seen in multiple scenes, that both RED and BLU purchased bulk loads of expired Emesis Diazepam that are perscribed to someone else to give to the mercs. The tablets were never going to work on the mercenaries.
They're either meant to be placebos, or something worse
on the case of diazepam, there isn't much interaction really, it0s downsides have more to do with the long term. it's sort of a "chilling" effect. that's why it gets widely prescribed for a variety of things, from anxiety to seizures, the difference being, that it is abslutely not a medication to be used for chronic issues outside of peak moments.
If given responsably, it's ideal use is in paralel with a stable treatment with medication that does not create resistance/tolerance or addiction in the long term, while having diazepam or one of it's cousins (like clotiazepam) aviable for a crisis.
The film depicts a very careless approach to the health and wellbeing of the mercs, so it makes sense that they would just drop valium on them and call it a day, but that would only remain effective and sustainable for like a month before becoming it's own can of worms when given and taken so liberaly.
One thing I've noticed is that the Soldier is the only person who can directly interact with different versions of himself.
Medic is able to push the cassette tapes over and open the door to the medical office, but Medic nor Scout can "see" him.
Yet, with Soldier, we can see him wanting to shoot himself at the start of the film, see himself talking to Demoman, and throw a crowbar at himself.
My theory is that because Soldier is not taking the medication, he is able to escape the time loop by killing himself. This is where the scene when a mysterious figure shoots him with a revolver (the same revolver in the first part of the movie) after he rocket jumped to the other side!
He is the only person who gets a Happy ending.
So... The lesson is. Don't do drugs kids.
Wouldnt say its happy ending, considering he was planning to go kamikaze with grenade in the church durinf Archibalds funeral. It would almost happen if Ludwig didnt killed Blu Spy.
wasn't spy the one who shot him? like I don't think there's anyone else in there with a revolver
@@_raboot_
At the beginning of the film, we can see the timeloop happening with soldier. Soldier picks up the revolver while in the car after seeing himself in the future, wanting to shoot.
Morever, the plague doctor also uses a revolver.
I don't think it would make sense if Spy shot him because Spy told Soldier to leave before cloaking away. Spy wouldn't follow Soldier into the Abyss, right? There were no reason for him to; they already played Russian Roulette and Soldier survived.
So yeah, I still believe in my theory :3
Don't do drugs, kids!
@@Zom-chan
Emesis blue an horror psychological film
Moral lesson
Dont do drugs
dont take the normal pills
-Dream
I can't belive Fortress films made an almost two hour long incredibly complex SFM movie just to communicate that it takes forever to respawn in the game
It's eternity in there
It's longer than you think
Its longer than you think @AxoCooki
@@AxoCookiit's longer than you think
When you're on red it does feel like an eternity to respawn
It is such a shame that at katabasis, you skipped over such a good scene.
As spy cocks the gun, he holds it to his head, click, nothing.
Soldier holds it to his head, and as tension builds up.. click, nothing.
Soldier hands fritz the gun, as he says "you'll make it fritz" and he replys, "i know i will" as he pulls the trigger and the gun goes off.
Showing his true descent, because fritz knows theres no consequences to his actions anymore, like a psychopathic murder, he isnt phased anymore. And its the last time we see him before the finale.
Also, unrelated partial vent partial funny: this movie came out, around a time in my life, where i was plagued by the thought of death, and the horror of losing everything, and i was so worried and although loving the movie it triggered those thoughts. Watching this video, i dont think about death because i cant take any of it seriously with thewhatshows jolly fucking voice, he sounds so happy all the time. You sound like youd be the narrator for sesame street.
This movie should be shown in theaters. It should also be taught in Film classes. This is a wonderful step by step example of how to make a psychological horror that does not rely on jump scares Or random gore. While some of them are included. The real horror comes from uncovering the story alongside the characters and realizing just what kind of horrible messed up world that this really is
Yeah- the respawn machine is so conceptually disturbing that it leads right into other wonderful horror. The gore and zombies are results of the machine. The mental atrophy they're all suffering is a result of the machine. And best of all, _we barely even really SEE the machine._ It actually shows up like _once,_ and when it does, it KILLS SCOUT.
I think they got work way more on the animation for it to be in theaters
I think its worth noting that out of all of the people repeatedly respawning, Soldier seems the most put together.
*he never takes the pills.*
He also remembers the mercenary battles (as he says “I’ve done it before” in reference to rocket-jumping)
He doesn't take the pills but still hallucinates.
So there's an inconsistency there.
He still suffers from hallucinations and such, but they're incredibly rare and mild
Some of the hallucinations aren't even hallucinations
Its not a good "movie"
@@Shitposting_IHMNplay russian roulette with 6 bullets loaded in
An alternate theory for the Plague Doctor I thought of while watching that section was that the plague doc IS the Medic, but specifically the instance of him that emerged from the flaming Respawn Machine at the very end. We know for certain that time is distorted around the events of the film, with multiple instances per character, and his seeming connection to the Medic would be explained. Plus, since the Medic has seen the stuff similarly to Solider, and given his actions at the funeral, his motivations would still line up.
I also read from the TvTropes page for Emesis Blu that the Plague Doctor is none other than death itself. Because remember in the films description it mentions about what happens when you cheat death too many times. The respawn machine essentially cheats death. You may want to read about it in the TvTropes page
@@black_grey_white9813 That's a theory I had, but the fact they leave a big bloody M everywhere, and seem to tail the Medic... idk. I feel like the visions he has of the plague doctor make it more than just a persona of death. Don't get me wrong, I think you are still onto something, because they certainly do manifest qualities of a 'Death Itself' sort of character. I just think they are actually a part of Medic. The M everywhere is a way of the plague doctor's pysche to remind the Medic of who he is (both of them), and the motivations of both characters *ARE* identical. Medic feels guilty because he knows about all the bodies, all the death that the teams endure, he himself was probably retired from service after what happened with the respawn machine's malfunctions, and like he says in the movie... He couldn't forget the screams he heard. The agony of seeing people you've fought and died beside, traumatically, mangled into one giant mass of bodies.
I think the plague doctor is the manifestation of death for Soldier, and for the Medic, is a representation of death and what he truly wants (to be free from eternal life).
@@black_grey_white9813 Was just thinking about the plague doctor being death itself at the beginning of the video, wanting to punish the people revived by the respawn machine but especially the people who invented it.
Would explain why his entire body is covered. Perhaps his respawn destroyed the machine which is why it is on fire. He then sets out to make sure the events take place again to fix each fucked up timeline...or maybe Im tweakin bruh
@@Dorf274 that or to hide his identity
I haven't scrolled down enough to see an odd idea but what if: **Pyro is the charred ending Medic**
We've seen how the mutations are distorted, reanimated, and left with missing body parts but none are shown with fatal burns. More over, due to the Respawn machine being on fire, who's to say this corrupt entity can't phase between the past and future much like the machine can with it's victims. *"It's eternity in there"* much like the many theories we truly have.
Soldier getting jump scared by Bad to the Bone is the funniest shit I’ve seen all day. And the fact that a fainter version of the riff plays while Spy is looking at it is even better
Here's a neat detail you missed in the piano scene. The music Maynard is playing on the piano is the beginning portion of Blackbird - The Beatles. The key and some of the notes are altered, but the progression is the same. The original track came out on November 22, 1968, a date that's accurate with the film's setting of 1969. What I'm trying to say is that Maynard is canonically a Beatles fan.
when that beetle hit (idk i dont like beatles):
The film takes place 23 days before that song released.
another detail he missed is that Soldier isn't just being cloned to be sold- when Spy is tasked with killing the three condemned mercenaries, he demands a new car, vacation time.... _and a personal assistant._ Soldier *IS* that personal assistant, and he's been cloned, handed over to Spy, and died in his service as a disposable meatshield MULTIPLE times.
also, that photo of Soldier with Lyndon B. Johnson is him *receiving the Medal of Honor*- the tape with Archibald mentions that the respawn subjects were death-row inmates, but honestly, I kind of doubt he's above using his powers as Governor of New Mexico and backer of both RED and BLU to railroad innocent people for his project; people like, say, a highly decorated and experienced WWII veteran?
Nah fam he played that froddy fuzbear jumpscare music
3:40 I think the Mercs are aware of the death-loop. Some of the domination lines have them literally saying 'come back so I can kill you again.'
Most notably, the engineer's, "Boy, this here is just gonna keep happenin' and happenin'."
also scout canonically breaks the 4th wall I guess? “Yeah, go on, rage quit! Make us both happy!”
and also sniper says "how many times have you died i'm actually getting impressed "
that’s just 4th wall breaking, nothing new
Most of the mercenaries have lines that acknowledge that they're killing the same people multiple times. And also acknowledging that the other team has a version of themselves -- another engineer example is him saying "a real Texan would've dodged that..." as a domination line against himself
There is no canonical death loop in TF2, or at least not in a way thats at all relevant. Those lines are still just for gameplay flavor and arent meant to indicate anything about the lore. Theres a reason the respawn mechanic isnt explored in the comics or anywhere else. Its just a gameplay mechanic. Same as there existing multiple of the same merc. There simply doesnt need to be an explanation to it
As an italian i can explain the demoman's death reason,
in the last circle of hell traitors would have stayed frezed forevere
Whoever voiced Scout and Soldier in this movie were absolute top-notch impersonators of the original VA-s, they deserve a goddamn award.
Scout's VA may have been the actual VA. He is still active online and in the community.
@@lordmanatee439 No, the creator did it himself
Medics VA is the actual VA I believe, I heard it somewhere@@squish2108
@@lordmanatee439 that's sadly impossible since he quit :(
I initially thought they used the cut up voice lines from the game
Little fun fact:
The model used for the 10th merc is one from Day of Defeat Source, a game set in World War 2, implying he was a fighter. Soldier had a vision with the plague doctor, which might mean he fought with #10
Interesting.
Yup US soldier
Wich is Valve's least popular game, kinda like a failure in a way
@@davisdf3064 you'd be surprised to find out the number of people who still play DoD source and even the original goldsrc version
I have to say, it is absurdly funny to say "see Medic drives by, then the plague doctor pulls up, they can't be the same person" when the scene is question was preceded by one where Soldier saw his future self across the road, that scene in turn preceded by one wherein Medic knocks over a box that draws the attention of his past self
Oh wow. That's a really great point. Going by that logic, each successive time loop in the first few scenes was closed at later and later points in the movie, so the Plague Doctor might have been the Medic's respawn in the last shot, with that loop being closed after the film was over.
That would also explain why the doctor's hearse is on fire the last time we see it, that version's from the future and needs to be put out by driving in the rain at the beginning of the movie (and by the doctor's maybe-implied space-warping powers).
It really feels like the Plague Doctor/Undertaker is a character with a complete story written by the filmmakers, but it's deliberately omitted from the movie. That's a point towards being the cut tenth class, but the character's imagery is far too close to the Medic's for there to not be a connection between them.
27:20
Scout's saying "I'm gonna kill you!" to the plague doctor. It's a simple confusion on your half.