2000% Agreed! And after all the explanations and “advice” from both the Judge and the Prosecutor, he just cannot let those meaningless papers in front of him go. Definition of STUPID!!
These videos reveal how many judges are actually very good and care about their jobs. It’s impressive how skillful they are at dealing with people in a fair and un emotional way. I don’t know if I could do it.
"OK Judge, you may have spent years in law school, and 43 years as a prosecutor and judge, but I spent a couple of hours googling stuff, and I am here to learn you the law".
Imagine sitting through all that and STILL thinking you are going to outsmart Middleton. Jesus, this dude must have consumed a copious amount of lead based paint chips during critical stages of development.
I love how Debbie picks up on the judge really wanting to try to set this kid straight but he’s limited on giving the guy legal advice so she steps in and asks if she can explain it to him. She’s very calm and does her best to tell him what she can assume he would want an attorney to tell him
She is saying, show us that you are willing to take care of cold water. . Implying we then will work with you so that you will be able to continue to drive.
You'd think a Sov Cit would actually learn to drive correctly so they never get stopped but apparently they drive however they want so getting this person off the road is imperative.
Most times from what I see is they're getting pulled over for no license plates on the vehicle. They can drive correctly following every traffic law and they're still going to get pulled over.
@@jenniferk9242 Exactly. If you drive by a LEO with no plates, you better hope a call for a bank robbery just came in over the radio, because that's about the only way they AREN'T going to stop a car with no plates. Shooting fish in a barrel.
This guy was stopped and ticketed in the same place as the first time. This guy has not learned-they recognize him. Often the sov. cits. have expired or “borrowed” (especially out of state) car plates. They sure do clog up the courts! I wonder if judges have special sessions about sov cits at their judges’ conference?
Sweetest judge ever. He could send this guy to jail or just let him saw off the branch he's sitting on, but instead he makes every effort to turn him around. Wow. It is also noticable that it is the prosecution who is the defendants greatest helper (or at least tries to be ). No lawyer could do more for you than these two.
I love how Judge Middleton tells the defendant that "this could be set for a jury trial in front of me or judge Pattison", and quickly adds "This would be good case for Judge Pattison." He wants as little to do with this fiasco as possible!
I don't know how much longer Middleton has on the bench before he retires but god knows those are some shoes to fill. I've never seen a situation where he isn't going out of his way to help people.
I'm continuosly stunned by the driving laws in the USA, In the UK your insurance is invalid if you don't have a valid license. If you don't have valid insurance, it's an instant tow, and if found guilty your car is crushed. In Oct 2022, 64,682 cars had been crushed that year.
First off you won't be able to get insurance without a licence here in the UK. You're partly correct about what happens if you lose your licence and you're foolish enough to carry on driving, your vehicle won't be covered by any insurance you've previously taken out but the insurers are still likely to pay any third party claims and then come to you for the money. I believe the situation is very similar in the States. If you've watched enough Judge Middleton you'll know the situation re towing of vehicles (and the high cost of getting your vehicle released) is also very similar, but can depend on local ordinances. And no your vehicle isn't automatically crushed here if found guilty of having no insurance. Most caught with no insurance get the vehicle insured, pay the towing and storage charge and get their vehicles back in a day or two. Those vehicles that are crushed are the old nails that aren't worth paying to get released, again very similar to Michigan at least. The big difference here is that things like no insurance, no licence, speeding, plate offences etc. are mostly dealt with administrativly as fixed penalties through the mail rather than going to court. Stopped (or flashed), letter in the mail, pay the fine, have your licence endorsed and that's it unless for instance the offence is really serious, you want to plead not guilty or you're in danger of getting disqualified then you may get a day in court.
@@I_Evo Apparently I stand corrected. I have watched alot of Judge Middleton and have never heard the mention of the possibilty of car destruction. Also, most of the stops I have watched are exactly like the 'old nails' that get crushed.
@@MeganRyder If you don't pay the release fee and storage charges (and it's not worth auctioning off) then it will eventually be forfeited and scrapped, whichever side of the pond you are on. There's been cases on there where Judge M has gone easy in terms of fines and costs because someone has 'lost' their vehicle, as in not being able to afford to recover it
Judge Middleton tries so hard to get it through to these people that the sov cit routine will not work. He's respectful and kind and just wants to help them realize they've been misled by false information. It's actually kind of sad because none of them will listen to reason. Thanks for trying, Your Honor
I watched this on Middleton's channel yesterday and knew Mike would have this on. I really hope this guy gets his head straight before he tries to do a trial.
In ALL my time of watching Judge Middleton through LTWM and his Personal Channel I have NEVER seen him spend so much time and compassion trying to encourage a Defendant to do the right thing to better himself so he doesn't go down the "Rabbit Hole"... The Judge and Debra went way far above the Call of Duty to guide this young Man. They couldn't have done more and the Defendant will regret his decision and wish he could turn back the hands of time... UGHHHH
I can't believe how far Debbie and Judge Middleton will go to help people like this guy who is just being soooo stupid. What nice humans they are. Wish we had more like them. TY you lovely people.
@@muskokamike127hat do you expect from people who can’t grasp a simple concept of a states right to pass and enforce their own laws and that not every law is federal! Judges need to stop entertaining these nut jobs and start throwing the book at them! Deport a few of them and see if that doesn’t stop it from happening!
I have a few questions. Does anyone know how much an hour our courts cost the taxpayers including all overhead [electric, water, insurance, etc.]? The same question about the police and jails. Because it is time people be made to pay the entire cost when found guilty. I am sick of the little nothing fines that in no way cover what it costs. Same with prisons, let's make the inmate pay the cost of imprisoning them. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for all of this.
They are both far nicer than I am. If I'm ever a judge, I would keep a full bookshelf of Blacks Law Dictionary (2nd Edition) for the express purpose of throwing the book at sovcits.
These types of sovcits are so deep in that he probably truly believes that the video will prove that he's innocent and it was in fact the police who broke the law, and he fully expects the police to be arrested in violation of the constitution. You'd think he'd realize by now how its going to turn out, but every time they reach a brick wall such as Judge Middleton denying that their claims have any validity - they just rationalize it as that particular person must be either deluded, ignorant, or knows the truth and is lying. The possibility that maybe, just maybe, THEY are wrong, rather than everyone else, is never considered. If they had the ability to consider that, they'd never have become Sovcits.
Right off the bat..UCC 1-308 is commercial code governing contracts. Has nothing to do with criminal court proceedings..🤦 Why is it they always say "they're not involved in commerce", yet continually cite Commercial laws as a defense? If that's your opening line..(to quote South Park), "You're gonna have a bad time.".
Q: Why do they cite commercial law? Short answers: ° They want to do crime & not pay. ° They are a mixture of downright delusional and deliberately dense. ° They are scofflaws - selfish, shortsighted, stubborn, & stupid. °°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°°° Longer answer: They are reality deniers arguing that their crimes be tried in an imaginary court in which THEY create and / or define the laws and rules that must be followed. They are narcissists who think they should get away with breaking laws that everyone else has to follow - laws that define a civilized community and ensure public safety. To this end, they try to transform criminal charges into minor infractions that incur no or low penalties. Many of them say "My Honor" instead of "Your Honor". I find it deliberately disrespectful. They appear to think they are in charge and deserve the honorific, rather than the actual Judge. °°°°°°°°°°°°′°°°°°°°°°°°°. In the Same Vein In addition to commercial law, maritime courts are referenced. Again, they try to change the rules to suit themselves. I see it more as a ploy to distract and downplay, or it may be a power play, like questioning jurisdiction. Might they literally believe they were operating a vessel on the high seas instead of a motorized vehicle on public roads financed by the very registration and license fees that they have avoided paying? Who knows?
There’s a complicated web of idiotic reasoning, but it kind of makes sense in the alternate universe where their beliefs are true. They cite the UCC because they believe that the US and states were replaced in the 19th century by private corporations. So the argument they’re putting forward is that you can’t be forced to enter a contract with a company against your will. Hence the UCC. The “not operating in commerce” thing comes from two places. One is 18 U.S.C. § 31, which defines a motor vehicle as something driven for commercial purposes since that’s required for federal jurisdiction. They say the federal definition trumps state statutes because of the supremacy clause, even though the federal statute specifies otherwise. The other source is the old edition of Black’s Law Dictionary that’s free online, which they think is binding on courts for some reason. In their definition of driver, it says that it’s one “employed in operating…” They’re reading that to mean someone making money instead of just someone engaged in the activity.
I don't understand why this guy doesn't get this. His traveling has landed in court for the second time. Debra Davis and judge Middleton are bending over backward to help him. Ridiculous
OMG. The sovereignty citizens are crazy I think they're even crazier when they try to give people a paper to sign saying that they're going to pay them $10,000 just to talk with them and answer their questions
if Judge Middleton is like a dad then debbie would be the mom. both of them together try to help everyone. I wish we had people in the courts here like this.
I wish the judge would have let him answer the "what happens if you hit someone?" question rather than keep talking. I'm curious what his answer would have been.
I’ve been on the suspended DL merry-go-round and can confirm, it sucks and is super expensive. Had to pay a lawyer $7k just to get my habitual DL offender status removed/signed off by a judge so I could reinstate. I lived in Tampa for 10 years and had a ton of unpaid crosstown tolls and stupid red light camera tickets.
Cases like this frustrate me when they are in Middletons court room because he's too nice and often too lenient. This kid needs to have a message sent or he's in for a very long life of trouble. To me, it would seem better to set him straight now with a hefty consequence. It's also not fair to the rest of us who obey the law, have insurance, and respect the safety of others.
I'd agree. Middleton can be a little TOO nice. An immediate arrest and day or two in jail (or weekend in jail with a high cash bond and a, "Let's schedule a hearing for next week to discuss your bond then," [cough cough] ) might have actually opened the guy's ears a little.
Hi Mike, it's been a long time. I've been watching and smackimg that like button. But you're so popular now. That's wonderful! It made me all sentimental doing a good ild Sov Cit video like the early days. P.S. Great news! Sheriff Bella is still on the job and Beatrix Kiddo will be 17 years old April 1, 2023. Yep, April Fools Day.
Wonder how Debra feels knowing either a. We’re watching her live stream or better yet b. We’re watching her on LTWM. She knows firsthand how those streams go. 😂
Good Lord! Such time, effort, and human care put out by the Judge and Debbie both. And none of it sank in the least! We know he is foing down, and yet you know Middleton will not hammer him, and he will just continue his life of silly.
Mike, can the prosecutor argue the statement "I didn't commit no crime" is a confession? The guy's been offered every break in the world and he won't take it.
I love how judges McNally, Middleton and Simpson treat everyone like they are their Dad. They are so caring! 😊 It must be so frustrating for them to go thru all this for people and then the people make really stupid decisions. It’s like a slap in the face.
My daughter has been playing some TikTok’s, and the musical clip seemed appropriate for your content: it’s from the 2013 musical Matilda, “Nobody but me is gonna change my story- sometimes you have to be a little bit naughty”. Take a look around the net, I expect you can find it.
I really enjoy watching these cases where the guilt party tries to argue with the judge 😆 trying to state the "law" when the judge literally spends his life enforcing it every single day 😆
Wow, the prosecutor and the judge are doing absolutely everything they can to take it easy on this guy. Still have 10 minutes left in the video, and I have a feeling that he's gonna take all of that and just throw it all away.
Imagine falling for this stuff, then you get to court and realize everything you learned was wrong and people are willing to help you, and your reflex is to continue pretend you are right
Sad part is the guys going to do the same thing again so throw the book at him and get it over with it'll give him something else to cry about he just doesn't want to pay any money for anything he don't think he has to
He demands a trial and when asked whether by bench or jury, he asks for a moment to think about it. So he hadn't thought about it at all before coming to court with the intention of demanding a trial. Yet he imagines he can handle this without counsel.
Middleton is such a softie but still has firm reasonable boundaries also, he’s across everything, always thorough in the name of doing his best. Has he ever had a bad day?❤
"this case can be set for a jury trial in front of me or judge Patterson. . . This would be a good case for judge Patterson." Reminds me of Chevy Chase's character in Caddyshack. . . "I've got a pond, AND a pool. . . The pond would be good for you!"
“Something you read on the internet”. Hilarious and so true. Gobblygook. If I was on this fool’s jury I would vote for the death penalty for wasting my time. Fools.
As the man once said, "You can't fix stupid". This is like a drowning man being thrown a life perserver and throwing it back because he believes it might pollute the water.
Flashing on the guy who is sitting on his roof as the flood waters rise. A huge log floats by. He ignores it, saying "The Lord will save me". After a while a canoe floats by. "The Lord will save me". A couple of people in a powerboat come by. He says "The Lord will save me". A Marine Corps helicopter drops a ladder. He yells "The Lord will save me". After he drowns he confronts the Lord and says "Why didn't you save me?". The Lord says "I sent a log, a canoe, a powerboat, and the United States Marine Corps. What did you EXPECT me to do?!?!?!"
DNR officers (Department of Natural Resources) in Michigan have the same powers of a State Trooper, but they focus on poachers and fishing without a license type things. They also investigate people who get fish over the amount limit, fish that are undersize limit of length, and much more. Some work at places where fish are grown then let go into the big lakes, and many more small lakes. They stock the lakes and rivers to estimate amounts to stop overfishing. They also watch for people using gill nets who are not authorized, and people snagging.
Coldwater! I had relatives who lived there. Great grandmother had lakefront property on Marble Lake. Great memories from going there as a kid. Yeah, I know, it has nothing to do with a law talk channel...
14:07 what are the odds this dude after this hearing walked a half a block away, got into a vehicle, and then drove away? My surmises are extremely high except maybe walked a whole block.
Ps this SovCit is like a person on a plane whose engines catch fire; so passengers need to don parachutes and jump; SovCit however refuses to put on parachute correctly as it doesn’t work the way he tries it on; he refuses to do it right because “he is free to travel and doesn’t need any help.”
I think I’m going to get a ticket in this jurisdiction just so I can meet Debbie. I just need some advise from Mike so I can prolong each court date and get a continuance until Debbie offers a plea deal that includes dinner and maybe a movie. 😂
@@c_me_now I’m not sure how long she has had that problem but our first date can be dinner then divorce court. I’m willing to take on at least one child. 😂😂
This has got to be one of the least busy courts around. To be able to spend that much time on this misguided kid is ridiculous. It was painful, like talking down to a two-year-old. Everything was explained over and over and the kid still didn't get any of it. They need to have a sheet printed up to hand these morons explaining "traveling".
There's a huge concern... these sovereign people... what if you hit and kill someone with no license, no registration and no insurance? You will then be charged with vehicular manslaughter.
Judge Middleton is a saint! I think that if I were a Judge, the first time some sov-cit told me "You can't do that!", I would prove my jurisdiction by giving the idiot a 30-day vacation at the Greybar hotel.
The judge and prosecutor do everything they can to get this resolved for him so he can get his license reinstated. The problem is that he does not understand what they are saying, yet, he thinks he can represent himself in a jury trial. English is my second language, I don't live in the USA and I'm not familiar with US law but even I understand what the judge and prosecutor are trying to do to help him resolve this matter. Even I understand what they are telling him. In a way I feel almost sorry for him, he doesn't seem to have the mental capacity to understand what is going on around him. These sovcit people pay unknown people on the internet who sell them an idea that they do not have to follow the law (that should in itself be a big red flag), get a fake license plate that will make them light up like a beacon of light to law enforcement and a fake "identification card", sometimes probably nothing more than a form they can themselves fill in and print out. These people should not be allowed to have a driver's license and they should be forced to have a guardian that makes important decisions for them as they, as shown, do not seem to have the mental capacity to do so by themselves. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm honestly worried for their wellbeing and their ability to function in a society.
Ughh Mike I learn so much from your videos I darn near want to represent myself if I’m ever in court 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 #amazingcontent and thank you for always breaking everything down it definitely shouldn’t be free to watch you !!!!🎉😂❤❤❤
The first guy leaning back in his chair with his arms crossed reminds me of what happens when you bring home a bad report card and give it to your dad while he is in his recliner chair in the living room, smoking his pipe, and he lectures you for an hour. Note, MY dad didn't do this. He was more of the screaming, hit you in the face repeatedly, kicking you, etc. I would love for this guy to have been my dad instead.
I really don't think I have ever seen a judge and a prosecutor try so hard to save the defendant from himself
2000% Agreed!
And after all the explanations and “advice” from both the Judge and the Prosecutor, he just cannot let those meaningless papers in front of him go. Definition of STUPID!!
These videos reveal how many judges are actually very good and care about their jobs. It’s impressive how skillful they are at dealing with people in a fair and un emotional way. I don’t know if I could do it.
🤦🏼♀️ He is trying to say he is bringing in his own jury 🤦🏼♀️ You can lead a Sov Cit to water but you'll have to smash his window for him to see it.
Love that!!
Eddie Alexander Banks tried to have a court hearing in a room in a library. He posted a notice asking for volunteer jurors! It didn’t work out. 😂
"OK Judge, you may have spent years in law school, and 43 years as a prosecutor and judge, but I spent a couple of hours googling stuff, and I am here to learn you the law".
Imagine sitting through all that and STILL thinking you are going to outsmart Middleton. Jesus, this dude must have consumed a copious amount of lead based paint chips during critical stages of development.
Goober! You’re funny as hell!😂
Has the darrel brooks trial taught these idiots nothing?
What is wrong with these young Millennials (1995-current)? It's like they have no common sense and are so gullible. Smdh
Delusion, convince yourself!
@@gangisspawn1 BAHAHAHAHA
I love how Debbie picks up on the judge really wanting to try to set this kid straight but he’s limited on giving the guy legal advice so she steps in and asks if she can explain it to him. She’s very calm and does her best to tell him what she can assume he would want an attorney to tell him
Stopping short of giving him actual "legal advice", which isn't her job.
She is saying, show us that you are willing to take care of cold water. . Implying we then will work with you so that you will be able to continue to drive.
*OF COURSE * judge Middleton knows the witness of the guy.
He seems to know everyone around there.
This guy is just marvelous.
He probably knows his parents and grandparents
You'd think a Sov Cit would actually learn to drive correctly so they never get stopped but apparently they drive however they want so getting this person off the road is imperative.
Most times from what I see is they're getting pulled over for no license plates on the vehicle. They can drive correctly following every traffic law and they're still going to get pulled over.
@@jenniferk9242 Exactly. If you drive by a LEO with no plates, you better hope a call for a bank robbery just came in over the radio, because that's about the only way they AREN'T going to stop a car with no plates. Shooting fish in a barrel.
This guy was stopped and ticketed in the same place as the first time. This guy has not learned-they recognize him. Often the sov. cits. have expired or “borrowed” (especially out of state) car plates. They sure do clog up the courts! I wonder if judges have special sessions about sov cits at their judges’ conference?
Sov Cits don't believe they have to follow traffic laws, or any laws at all.
Some cop cars have cameras that scan and alert the cop driving to an unregistered vehicle.
I really wish Judge Middleton had given him the $10K bond and put him in jail for 28 days.
Yes! This young man is learning that he can get away with breaking laws repeatedly without consequences.
Nothing like coming to court and having the Judge and the Prosecutor giving you free legal advice.
Sweetest judge ever. He could send this guy to jail or just let him saw off the branch he's sitting on, but instead he makes every effort to turn him around. Wow.
It is also noticable that it is the prosecution who is the defendants greatest helper (or at least tries to be ).
No lawyer could do more for you than these two.
Still he keeps pleading. Judge M, put him in jail. Six months should give him time to think.
I love how Judge Middleton tells the defendant that "this could be set for a jury trial in front of me or judge Pattison", and quickly adds "This would be good case for Judge Pattison." He wants as little to do with this fiasco as possible!
I wondered what Judge Pattison did to piss off Judge Middleton. 😂
@@steppy3736I thought that too - that or either they are good friends and say this stuff all the time about each other.
I don't know how much longer Middleton has on the bench before he retires but god knows those are some shoes to fill. I've never seen a situation where he isn't going out of his way to help people.
I'm continuosly stunned by the driving laws in the USA, In the UK your insurance is invalid if you don't have a valid license. If you don't have valid insurance, it's an instant tow, and if found guilty your car is crushed. In Oct 2022, 64,682 cars had been crushed that year.
First off you won't be able to get insurance without a licence here in the UK. You're partly correct about what happens if you lose your licence and you're foolish enough to carry on driving, your vehicle won't be covered by any insurance you've previously taken out but the insurers are still likely to pay any third party claims and then come to you for the money. I believe the situation is very similar in the States.
If you've watched enough Judge Middleton you'll know the situation re towing of vehicles (and the high cost of getting your vehicle released) is also very similar, but can depend on local ordinances. And no your vehicle isn't automatically crushed here if found guilty of having no insurance. Most caught with no insurance get the vehicle insured, pay the towing and storage charge and get their vehicles back in a day or two. Those vehicles that are crushed are the old nails that aren't worth paying to get released, again very similar to Michigan at least.
The big difference here is that things like no insurance, no licence, speeding, plate offences etc. are mostly dealt with administrativly as fixed penalties through the mail rather than going to court. Stopped (or flashed), letter in the mail, pay the fine, have your licence endorsed and that's it unless for instance the offence is really serious, you want to plead not guilty or you're in danger of getting disqualified then you may get a day in court.
@@I_Evo Apparently I stand corrected. I have watched alot of Judge Middleton and have never heard the mention of the possibilty of car destruction. Also, most of the stops I have watched are exactly like the 'old nails' that get crushed.
@@MeganRyder If you don't pay the release fee and storage charges (and it's not worth auctioning off) then it will eventually be forfeited and scrapped, whichever side of the pond you are on. There's been cases on there where Judge M has gone easy in terms of fines and costs because someone has 'lost' their vehicle, as in not being able to afford to recover it
It seems uneconomical to crush all these cars in the uk . Why not auction them?
Judge Middleton tries so hard to get it through to these people that the sov cit routine will not work. He's respectful and kind and just wants to help them realize they've been misled by false information. It's actually kind of sad because none of them will listen to reason. Thanks for trying, Your Honor
You’re right. Not a one listens. Makes me wonder what these defendants’ relatives think…especially the parents of a young defendant like this.
I watched this on Middleton's channel yesterday and knew Mike would have this on. I really hope this guy gets his head straight before he tries to do a trial.
If this guy isn't careful, he could lose his slick Chevy S-10 ride. They haven't sold one in the US since 2004.
My son still has the one ( S-10) I bought him. He keeps it in his garage and the new SUV sits in the diveway.😊
In ALL my time of watching Judge Middleton through LTWM and his Personal Channel I have NEVER seen him spend so much time and compassion trying to encourage a Defendant to do the right thing to better himself so he doesn't go down the "Rabbit Hole"... The Judge and Debra went way far above the Call of Duty to guide this young Man. They couldn't have done more and the Defendant will regret his decision and wish he could turn back the hands of time... UGHHHH
Must have a slow day on the docket so judge Middleton can drag this out
I can't believe how far Debbie and Judge Middleton will go to help people like this guy who is just being soooo stupid. What nice humans they are. Wish we had more like them. TY you lovely people.
The sovcits are so dumb that they don't realize when someone is actually trying to help them.
@@muskokamike127hat do you expect from people who can’t grasp a simple concept of a states right to pass and enforce their own laws and that not every law is federal!
Judges need to stop entertaining these nut jobs and start throwing the book at them! Deport a few of them and see if that doesn’t stop it from happening!
I have a few questions.
Does anyone know how much an hour our courts cost the taxpayers including all overhead [electric, water, insurance, etc.]? The same question about the police and jails.
Because it is time people be made to pay the entire cost when found guilty. I am sick of the little nothing fines that in no way cover what it costs. Same with prisons, let's make the inmate pay the cost of imprisoning them. Why should the taxpayers have to pay for all of this.
They are both far nicer than I am. If I'm ever a judge, I would keep a full bookshelf of Blacks Law Dictionary (2nd Edition) for the express purpose of throwing the book at sovcits.
😂
Mrs. Debbie really does try to help the one's she can or who she beleves truly deserves it.
That’s a great idea ! Bring 12 of your besties to be your jury. That would save so much money and wouldn’t be biased at all 😂😂😂
I really thought he was going to say that his moronic friends were were going to be jurors. You know, because that’s how it works! 😂😂
@@skwak3041 I'm pretty sure that is actually what he was thinking about, because otherwise why say "peers"
@@mchevre I suspect that when they get to jury selection he's going to have a _very_ unpleasant surprise.
Wait, he admitted to having a video when the police video had been deleted? Is he going to bring his own hangman to trial as well?
It's what the law geeks might call, "d'oh!", in their inimitable eloquence and erudition.
These types of sovcits are so deep in that he probably truly believes that the video will prove that he's innocent and it was in fact the police who broke the law, and he fully expects the police to be arrested in violation of the constitution. You'd think he'd realize by now how its going to turn out, but every time they reach a brick wall such as Judge Middleton denying that their claims have any validity - they just rationalize it as that particular person must be either deluded, ignorant, or knows the truth and is lying. The possibility that maybe, just maybe, THEY are wrong, rather than everyone else, is never considered. If they had the ability to consider that, they'd never have become Sovcits.
Right off the bat..UCC 1-308 is commercial code governing contracts. Has nothing to do with criminal court proceedings..🤦 Why is it they always say "they're not involved in commerce", yet continually cite Commercial laws as a defense?
If that's your opening line..(to quote South Park),
"You're gonna have a bad time.".
Q: Why do they cite commercial law?
Short answers:
° They want to do crime & not pay.
° They are a mixture of downright delusional and deliberately dense.
° They are scofflaws - selfish, shortsighted, stubborn, & stupid.
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Longer answer:
They are reality deniers arguing that their crimes be tried in an imaginary court in which THEY create and / or define the laws and rules that must be followed.
They are narcissists who think they should get away with breaking laws that everyone else has to follow - laws that define a civilized community and ensure public safety. To this end, they try to transform criminal charges into minor infractions that incur no or low penalties.
Many of them say "My Honor" instead of "Your Honor". I find it deliberately disrespectful. They appear to think they are in charge and deserve the honorific, rather than the actual Judge.
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In the Same Vein
In addition to commercial law, maritime courts are referenced.
Again, they try to change the rules to suit themselves. I see it more as a ploy to distract and downplay, or it may be a power play, like questioning jurisdiction. Might they literally believe they were operating a vessel on the high seas instead of a motorized vehicle on public roads financed by the very registration and license fees that they have avoided paying? Who knows?
There’s a complicated web of idiotic reasoning, but it kind of makes sense in the alternate universe where their beliefs are true.
They cite the UCC because they believe that the US and states were replaced in the 19th century by private corporations. So the argument they’re putting forward is that you can’t be forced to enter a contract with a company against your will. Hence the UCC.
The “not operating in commerce” thing comes from two places.
One is 18 U.S.C. § 31, which defines a motor vehicle as something driven for commercial purposes since that’s required for federal jurisdiction. They say the federal definition trumps state statutes because of the supremacy clause, even though the federal statute specifies otherwise.
The other source is the old edition of Black’s Law Dictionary that’s free online, which they think is binding on courts for some reason. In their definition of driver, it says that it’s one “employed in operating…” They’re reading that to mean someone making money instead of just someone engaged in the activity.
Middleton AND Debbie are both trying so hard to help him in spite of himself.... man Debbie was having a very forgiving day!
I don't understand why this guy doesn't get this. His traveling has landed in court for the second time. Debra Davis and judge Middleton are bending over backward to help him. Ridiculous
His " traveling" Lol
OMG. The sovereignty citizens are crazy I think they're even crazier when they try to give people a paper to sign saying that they're going to pay them $10,000 just to talk with them and answer their questions
Middleton is such a credit to the bench. So many times this guy's been in front of him for the same crap and keeps cutting him breaks.
No matter so much help he gets, there are just some people you can’t help
if Judge Middleton is like a dad then debbie would be the mom. both of them together try to help everyone. I wish we had people in the courts here like this.
Wow Middleton really schooled this guy in the coolest most calm and collected way.
I wish the judge would have let him answer the "what happens if you hit someone?" question rather than keep talking. I'm curious what his answer would have been.
i remember when you covered this guy before and judge middleton tried to help him, he still didnt learn smh...
Judge Middleton truly, TRULY is an amazing human. Even his brag is humble. Major respect for his straight forward, no drama approach.
We need his video, the cops dash/badge cams, and a two day trial by Middleton. I need this in my life.
Didn't Debbie say the police cams were already purged, meaning erased?
I’ve been on the suspended DL merry-go-round and can confirm, it sucks and is super expensive. Had to pay a lawyer $7k just to get my habitual DL offender status removed/signed off by a judge so I could reinstate. I lived in Tampa for 10 years and had a ton of unpaid crosstown tolls and stupid red light camera tickets.
See how cheap it is to drive legally! It doesn’t feel that way every time I renew license, car registration, and insurance but not doing so is worse.
Pat you're so right!
Cases like this frustrate me when they are in Middletons court room because he's too nice and often too lenient. This kid needs to have a message sent or he's in for a very long life of trouble. To me, it would seem better to set him straight now with a hefty consequence. It's also not fair to the rest of us who obey the law, have insurance, and respect the safety of others.
I'd agree. Middleton can be a little TOO nice. An immediate arrest and day or two in jail (or weekend in jail with a high cash bond and a, "Let's schedule a hearing for next week to discuss your bond then," [cough cough] ) might have actually opened the guy's ears a little.
Hi Mike, it's been a long time. I've been watching and smackimg that like button. But you're so popular now. That's wonderful! It made me all sentimental doing a good ild Sov Cit video like the early days.
P.S. Great news! Sheriff Bella is still on the job and Beatrix Kiddo will be 17 years old April 1, 2023. Yep, April Fools Day.
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Wonder how Debra feels knowing either a. We’re watching her live stream or better yet b. We’re watching her on LTWM. She knows firsthand how those streams go. 😂
They are so brain washed by the nonsense they see on the Internet that they can't understand stand when they are being shown compassion
Good Lord! Such time, effort, and human care put out by the Judge and Debbie both. And none of it sank in the least! We know he is foing down, and yet you know Middleton will not hammer him, and he will just continue his life of silly.
The guy must honestly believe he knows better than the judge.
@@douglasr.c.5622 It seems the crazier they are, the more they believe that they have an IQ above everyone else.
Thanks
Mike, can the prosecutor argue the statement "I didn't commit no crime" is a confession? The guy's been offered every break in the world and he won't take it.
DNR issued one of the tickets. To the person in chat who suggested DNR meant "do not resuscitate," please know that I'm still laughing.
Michigan DNR is a relatively powerful agency, especially in the sticks. Lots of state land.
@@jayschafer1760 Same with Nevada, although most of our land is federal. But the folks in chat are hilarious.
I love how judges McNally, Middleton and Simpson treat everyone like they are their Dad. They are so caring! 😊
It must be so frustrating for them to go thru all this for people and then the people make really stupid decisions.
It’s like a slap in the face.
So kind. The judge was so kind to him. Debbie too.
My daughter has been playing some TikTok’s, and the musical clip seemed appropriate for your content: it’s from the 2013 musical Matilda, “Nobody but me is gonna change my story- sometimes you have to be a little bit naughty”. Take a look around the net, I expect you can find it.
"It's like reading something that somebody wrote on the back of a popcorn sack."
LOL the judge pretending to not know that he's saying he's going to bring his own jury.
This judge knows everything about everyone in his jurisdiction 😮😅
I really enjoy watching these cases where the guilt party tries to argue with the judge 😆 trying to state the "law" when the judge literally spends his life enforcing it every single day 😆
Loving that Debbie provided such great advice even though she didn’t need too ❤❤❤
Wow, the prosecutor and the judge are doing absolutely everything they can to take it easy on this guy. Still have 10 minutes left in the video, and I have a feeling that he's gonna take all of that and just throw it all away.
Imagine falling for this stuff, then you get to court and realize everything you learned was wrong and people are willing to help you, and your reflex is to continue pretend you are right
Sad part is the guys going to do the same thing again so throw the book at him and get it over with it'll give him something else to cry about he just doesn't want to pay any money for anything he don't think he has to
He demands a trial and when asked whether by bench or jury, he asks for a moment to think about it. So he hadn't thought about it at all before coming to court with the intention of demanding a trial. Yet he imagines he can handle this without counsel.
He came with some magical incantations he was told would make this all go away, so he didn't need a PLAN B.
Middleton is such a softie but still has firm reasonable boundaries also, he’s across everything, always thorough in the name of doing his best. Has he ever had a bad day?❤
I've missed Middleton, and Deb in action. Thanks for the Video, I appreciate it. :) Ivan
I want Mike and his beautiful pups for my Lawyer😁🥰😆
Fabulous video and Commentary Mike 🐶🥰
Middleton, Simpson, Manning....our country is blessed with AMAZING judges!!
"this case can be set for a jury trial in front of me or judge Patterson. . . This would be a good case for judge Patterson."
Reminds me of Chevy Chase's character in Caddyshack. . . "I've got a pond, AND a pool. . . The pond would be good for you!"
😂😂 Great pop culture reference!!
My favorite recent McNally line "did you mouth F. U. ?"
“Something you read on the internet”. Hilarious and so true. Gobblygook. If I was on this fool’s jury I would vote for the death penalty for wasting my time. Fools.
To quote Pink Floyd, "So have a good drown....as you go down...all alone...dragged down by the stone..."
As the man once said, "You can't fix stupid". This is like a drowning man being thrown a life perserver and throwing it back because he believes it might pollute the water.
you can fix stupid, but it's gonna hurt A LOT...
@@daveking4229 You can't fix stupid, but sometimes it just gets itself killed
Flashing on the guy who is sitting on his roof as the flood waters rise. A huge log floats by. He ignores it, saying "The Lord will save me". After a while a canoe floats by. "The Lord will save me". A couple of people in a powerboat come by. He says "The Lord will save me". A Marine Corps helicopter drops a ladder. He yells "The Lord will save me". After he drowns he confronts the Lord and says "Why didn't you save me?". The Lord says "I sent a log, a canoe, a powerboat, and the United States Marine Corps. What did you EXPECT me to do?!?!?!"
Tell me your self-destructive without saying you're self-destructive: "Judge, I want a jury trial."
Middleton and Debbie gave this young guy some great advice! They really went above and beyond to try and help this guy. 🤦🏻♀️
They thunk they can break law as long as they say "I was scared".
DNR officers (Department of Natural Resources) in Michigan have the same powers of a State Trooper, but they focus on poachers and fishing without a license type things. They also investigate people who get fish over the amount limit, fish that are undersize limit of length, and much more. Some work at places where fish are grown then let go into the big lakes, and many more small lakes. They stock the lakes and rivers to estimate amounts to stop overfishing. They also watch for people using gill nets who are not authorized, and people snagging.
It's ridiculous how their placating this criminal, give him a bond and put him in jail.
I'd give him prison time for his own good, sometimes you gotta be a parent ,not a friend
They always act so surprised when their mumbo jumbo doesn't work right away. From here on out, we will be grasping at straws.
This was the coolest judge and prosecutor. They actually took the time to try and talk to this guy. Nice work
Love Mike's input. It helps so much.
Shoot...I keep missing your live. I wonder if we'll find out what kind of beer Sov Cit's drink...LOL
It's called "Travelin' Man..."
It's called Drano 🤦🏼♀️
Light beer any brand.
@@patscats2080 ...yes, but filtered through whose kidneys first?
@@VictheChick touché! 👍
Coldwater! I had relatives who lived there. Great grandmother had lakefront property on Marble Lake. Great memories from going there as a kid. Yeah, I know, it has nothing to do with a law talk channel...
But it does! We can imagine your great grandmother admonishing a younger Jeff Middleton not to go ice fishing in February. He's never forgotten
14:07 what are the odds this dude after this hearing walked a half a block away, got into a vehicle, and then drove away? My surmises are extremely high except maybe walked a whole block.
I wouldn't be shocked if his car is in the courthouse parking lot
Ps this SovCit is like a person on a plane whose engines catch fire; so passengers need to don parachutes and jump; SovCit however refuses to put on parachute correctly as it doesn’t work the way he tries it on; he refuses to do it right because “he is free to travel and doesn’t need any help.”
I think I’m going to get a ticket in this jurisdiction just so I can meet Debbie. I just need some advise from Mike so I can prolong each court date and get a continuance until Debbie offers a plea deal that includes dinner and maybe a movie. 😂
🤣 She is happily married but if you also invite him and the kids she's so nice it might work.
@@c_me_now I’m not sure how long she has had that problem but our first date can be dinner then divorce court. I’m willing to take on at least one child. 😂😂
@@douglasrobson3875 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I finally watched the video with the SOvCit with the red hat all 3 of them.... or is it 4. It got complicated... Thanks LTWM!!!
Maybe he'll see LTWM before then and listen to the people begging him to stop the stupidity.
This has got to be one of the least busy courts around. To be able to spend that much time on this misguided kid is ridiculous. It was painful, like talking down to a two-year-old. Everything was explained over and over and the kid still didn't get any of it. They need to have a sheet printed up to hand these morons explaining "traveling".
You look like a new man!! 😍 Love your channel Mike!! Thanks for the constant entertainment!!
I am the raster and muler of the universe!! Thanks for sharing and keep well!
Ses yir! 😉🤪
There's a huge concern... these sovereign people... what if you hit and kill someone with no license, no registration and no insurance? You will then be charged with vehicular manslaughter.
If a judge eveer showed me he cared about me that much, I would have started bawling and done whatever he asked.
Excellent judge, judge Middleton!
Judge Middleton is a saint!
I think that if I were a Judge, the first time some sov-cit told me "You can't do that!", I would prove my jurisdiction by giving the idiot a 30-day vacation at the Greybar hotel.
WhoooHooo! Loving me some Sov Cit with Mike!💜
Y U NO ?!?!?! Dumbs gonna dumb, but this is a new level....
Oh boy Judge Middleton got pissed.
I sure would LOVE to see this trail....I've yet to actually SEE one of these go to trail and watch what happens.
Sov.Cits. You can travel all you want; on your boots, on a horse, on a donkey, on a bicycle. Nothing with a motor.
Anyone know where to find any updates on the Sov-Cit defendant?
I couldn't figure out his name from the video.
The judge and prosecutor do everything they can to get this resolved for him so he can get his license reinstated. The problem is that he does not understand what they are saying, yet, he thinks he can represent himself in a jury trial.
English is my second language, I don't live in the USA and I'm not familiar with US law but even I understand what the judge and prosecutor are trying to do to help him resolve this matter. Even I understand what they are telling him. In a way I feel almost sorry for him, he doesn't seem to have the mental capacity to understand what is going on around him. These sovcit people pay unknown people on the internet who sell them an idea that they do not have to follow the law (that should in itself be a big red flag), get a fake license plate that will make them light up like a beacon of light to law enforcement and a fake "identification card", sometimes probably nothing more than a form they can themselves fill in and print out.
These people should not be allowed to have a driver's license and they should be forced to have a guardian that makes important decisions for them as they, as shown, do not seem to have the mental capacity to do so by themselves. I'm not trying to be mean, I'm honestly worried for their wellbeing and their ability to function in a society.
I watched PERRY MASON, does that count as a lawyer?.
Not even if you watched all 271 TV episodes.
Ughh Mike I learn so much from your videos I darn near want to represent myself if I’m ever in court 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 #amazingcontent and thank you for always breaking everything down it definitely shouldn’t be free to watch you !!!!🎉😂❤❤❤
Awwww thank you
The first guy leaning back in his chair with his arms crossed reminds me of what happens when you bring home a bad report card and give it to your dad while he is in his recliner chair in the living room, smoking his pipe, and he lectures you for an hour. Note, MY dad didn't do this. He was more of the screaming, hit you in the face repeatedly, kicking you, etc. I would love for this guy to have been my dad instead.
Thanks Mike❤
Thank you, Maddie!! Smash that like button!
Never seen a more patient judge in my life. These sovereigns are so misguided and stupid I almost feel sorry for them.