Look at the Bow Closely! Once you see it you can't unsee it! The Arthur M Anderson's Duluth Arrival!
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- The Port and Starboard Bow Thruster emblems are not even....been that way for years.
Arriving Duluth for the 15th time this season. Between the Duluth Piers 8/22/2022 12:02:00 with a cargo of limestone for the C. Reiss dock. They arrived at the C. Reiss dock 13:47 PM and spent the next 9.2 hours discharging. They left the dock @ 22:57:00, heading down river to the Hallett 5 dock to load sinter feed. Arriving at the Hallett dock 8/23/2022 0:10:00, they spent the next 10.6 hours loading the sinter. They departed Hallett @ 10:45, making their way down the Estuary to the Duluth Canal. The Anderson departed Duluth 11:55 AM heading to Gary Indiana. This was their 15th trip to Gary, 1st trip with Sinter Feed.
What is Sinter Feed? (bimco.org)
IRON CONCENTRATE (SINTER FEED)
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Is iron oxide recycled as small grey flakes as a ferrous feed for the sinter plant. It is mineral concentrate or refined ore in which valuable components have been enriched by eliminating the bulk of waste materials. Used in steel manufacturing. Also used in green, heat-absorbing glass and as catalyst.
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Iron oxide. Millscale iron ore (sinter feed), Iron ore (sinter feed).
Bits Info on the Anderson via Boatnerd.com
As completed, Arthur M. Anderson's overall dimensions were 647' 00" loa x 70' 00" beam x 36' 00" depth with a capacity of 21,000 tons dwt at a mid-summer draft of 26' 02". The cargo was contained in three holds serviced by 19 hatches (6-7-6 configuration). After the St. Lawrence Seaway opened in 1959, she could carry 20,800 tons at the early Seaway draft of 26' 00.” Power was and still is supplied by a 7,700 s.h.p. cross-compound steam turbine engine (steam expanded through two turbines) built by Westinghouse Electric & Manufacturing Co. Ltd., Pittsburgh, PA, with two heavy-fuel oil fired Foster-Wheeler water tube boilers providing the steam; the power then transmitted to the single controllable pitch propeller through double reductions gears driving the bulker at a speed of 16 m.p.h. The beam (width)
Ship Particulars
Length 767' 00" (233.78m)
Beam 70' 00" (21.34m)
Depth 36' 00" (10.97m)
Midsummer Draft 27' 00" (8.23m)
Unloading Boom Conveyor Length 262' (79.86m)
Capacity 25,300 tons
Engine Power 7,700 shp steam turbine - ยานยนต์และพาหนะ
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... the announcer did not do justice to the Captain and Crew of the Arthur M Anderson on the night that the Edmond Fitzgerald was lost. The Anderson was trailing the Fitzgerald into Whitefish Bay, when it was noticed that Fitzgerald was missing ... the Coast Guard asked if any other ships could go out and assist ... the Captain and Crew of the Anderson did not hesitate ... but immediately turned around and headed back out into the teeth of the gale that had just taken the Fitzgerald ... " we are all our brothers' keeper when any of us are out on the water !!!" ... that was a feat of seamanship not very often equalled ... and must be remembered !!!!
Exactly. I remember.
Well said!!
Thank you
Actually Capt. Cooper did hesitate when asked to go look, and I don't blame him! He said, "Do you realize what the conditions are out there"?
I was duck hunting on Saginaw Bay that evening. As I was leaving the marsh, I said, "It's going to be rough for the boats on the lake tonight". It wasn't a "squall", it was da*n near a hurricane-blizzard, except not much snow.
My grandfather sailed on that boat. He was on it when the Edmond Fitzgerald went down.
Maybe he knows of Eddie o'Neil
@@mrmillillion96 he now knows Davie Jones
I have the same name as one of the crew, and it went down on my sister's birthday.
Wow. I bet he had some sad tales to share. But how sad for him personally, to have witnessed it...... Thank you for sharing
Blessings to your grandfather, must have hit him hard to hear the news.
I didn’t see what I will never unsee 🙄
me either..guess you have to really be into ships ??
The port and starboard bow thruster stickers aren’t even 😂 I read it in the description must mean something to somebody
The Face
Didn’t “see” anything 🤷♂️🤷♂️ Only a big ship
Sorry
@@richardprofit6363 uneven emblems. One is higher up on one side than the other. So lame lol.
Could you imagine a ship that size snapping into two pieces. It just goes to show the fury of the storm that sank the Fitzgerald. God rest their souls.
When they sink many large ships 'break their backs' including the Titanic and many WWII large naval vessels. Yes, it's easy to imagine.
I watched GoPro video recorded from the bridge of a shipping vessel breaking it's back and sinking. There were other ships in the area, so you got two perspectives of the event on video. Pretty horrific, I think 6 crewmen died.
Saying other sailors did nothing is wrong they went back but found nothing they could do. It was gone too fast. I didn't know it broke into 2 pieces
After watching another video of an ocean going freighter in heavy seas from the bilge level and just seeing the entire length of the ship buckle and sway as it did.... I had no idea that a ship could be that flexible.
@@W8RIT1 Aircraft carriers do it,too in storms.They call it "oil canning".
And the crew members of those are afraid to ride destroyers.
My great grandfather had 5 ships on Lake Michigan. He lost all of them due to storms. He was captain on the last one when she went down. He treaded water for 5 hours before he and his crew were rescued. The Great Lakes are more like inland seas then lakes.
That's the only problem with our great lakes; they aren't backyard ponds, so they get really busy in storms.
I don’t understand what you are referring to master spots. He owned the ships and this was back in the 1800’s. Apparently HENRY X81 you are not familiar with the storms on the lakes and the probably thousands of boats and ships that have gone down. Edmund Fitzgerald ring any bells? She had state of the are navigational aids and she went down in seconds with all hands aboard.
What ship was he on? Judging by “early 1800s” I imagine these were small steam boats
Hard to imagine something this long turning to help others in a storm that snapped the same type ship in half seconds earlier. That is something that goes beyond bravery. Stay safe Arthur B. Anderson and crew. God be with you always.
Its hypothesized that the Fitzgerald broke in half when her bow hit the lake bed
Yes very brave but she didn't turn around at sea she turned in Whitefish Bay an area somewhat protected from the severe storm.
@@leonardcollings7389 The point is, she was home safe when she turned around to help others on Edmond Fitzgerald who were out there, somewhere in the storm. Bravery doesn’t quite do what they did Justice.
Yes, strange isn't it. Perhaps it wasn't a rescue taking form but a cover up
@@lorettagallagher4743 cover up of what, one boat rammed the other?
A Beautiful Legendary ship that is so smoothly sailed it doesn't leave a wake.. God bless the crews of all ships.
I live in Sturgeon Bay, WI. The ‘winter fleet’ of ships is anticipated to arrive for annual maintenance over the next few weeks. It’s quite a site see these massive ships as each one threads its way way via the canal.
A lesson in life to be remembered, we love those we lost and carry them in our hearts wherever we go.
I am a life long Yooper and at the time the FitzGerald went down it was on my 9th birthday and I remember them talking about how the Anderson turned around in that nasty storm and risked there live to search for the Fitz and her crew sadly no one was ever found. As a US Navy sailor my hats off to the crew of the Anderson and the bravery it took to turn around and search. To the crew of the FitzGerald rest in peace you won’t be forgotten.
What a beautiful sight. I think you have to be from Duluth to really appreciate these boats. As for the Fitzgerald, I got to see it up close in the Duluth Harbor when I was a kid (like 60 years ago...lol). The tragedy, the song, all of it is etched in my heart & mind forever. And bravery of the crew of the Anderson that night can't be overstated. Believe me, that was a scary nite, even standing on shore.
The Fitz sank in 1975. It was about 40 years ago.
@@addagwenlyn9662 He wasn’t talking about when it sank he was talking about when he saw it in Duluth Harbour.
@@johnshaw873 Yep. Thank you
I'm so glad so many remember the Edmund Fitzgerald. I remember clearly when that happened. I lived in southeast Michigan at the time. My brothers all sailed though not commercially. Even this many years later it makes me pause and want to pray for these men.
Indeed.
It still brings "TEARS TO MY EYES" about what happened to the "OLD FITZ" and thinking about the loss of the crew, what a way to go!!!!!.I remember when it happened, like it was yesterday
You're right. The storm knocked out the Fitzgerald on board radar, so Anderson's radar was guiding them in. I'm sure you already knew that, bit I just 5hink it's so interesting how these seamen work together. My respect to all of them.
I heard for the very first time about that sad story only at the end of last year, after my 16-year-old Son had shared the Gordon Lightfoot song about her sinking with me - and now her name keeps popping up aaall the time.
@@mightyV444 I know what you mean. I bought an old VW bug, and now I see them EVERYWHERE!
I live 5 minutes from Port Colborne. Me and my husband loves watching the big ships go up and down the port!! So huge!!! Niagara Region Ontario Canada 🇨🇦
This is amazing 😍 to us who don't see it often. Thank you so much.
I live on Lake Erie and am still amazed to see these ships!
From West Michigan here and growing up on the lakeshore, we used to love watching these huge ships on the horizon as kids! They look huge from far away. I can't imagine being that close!
Sailed out of muskegon for a good chunk of my life, and got lots of "close-up" views of these puppies both in muskegon as well as out on the Big Lake. Did a lot of distance racing in my later sailing years. It was always fun being out in the middle of L. Michigan in the dead of night and seeing a mass of lights in the distance get closer and closer while you try to figure out which way it was actually heading, and at what speed! Held my course a little too long on one delivery across the lake, and got majorly lit up with one of the ships huge spotlights. Guess they just wanted to make sure we saw them! ;)
@@wallyman292 Great memory! My folks were from Muskegon and I grew up in the White Lake area and waterskied and boated in both lakes. Those were the days!
I have had the pleasure of repairing equipment on some of the larger ships (Tregurtha and Indiana Harbor), they dwarf the Anderson as they are 1000 footers. I live next to the St. Clair River and hear the captain's salute when two ships pass at various times of day and night and the fog horn that sounds every 60 seconds when the river is fogged up which is very common in the spring. Sometimes you can tell when there are some jokers on the ships because the long-short-short blast of the horn will be held for a really long time.
That is one thing that I will miss after I retire and move, the sound of the horn that travels through the house.
I used to watch them come in to the loading docks . Always was exciting and will never forget .
I would have loved that as a kid. Even as an adult!
I think this is great. An announcer for the comings and goings of ships in a port. There sure is plenty of room for people to watch.
Indeed there is!
One of the best spots for Ship spotting on the great lakes.
One of the best spots for Ship spotting on the great lakes.
He should really keep his mouth shut.
@@canlib who? What are you talking about?
It took a while, but I was able to unsee what I didn't see in the first place.
Yes the paint job is like everything else in this country that the new generation does. totally without care or checking their work
Go woke, Go broke !!!
look at the paint stripe that is unfinished !!!
Lol
So what is there to see?
Is it me but when you look at the thumbnail picture it looks like Michael Myers Hockey Mask? Or I need new glasses again???
@@raypowell6783I see a Native American face
Thanks again for keeping us all updated in ship traffic in Duluth.
I saw the Arthur M Anderson pass through the Soo locks last summer. I thought it was interesting but didn't realize it was so unique.
The ship itself isn't unique... still a common sight even at 70 years old. Its history... as unique as they come!
Thank you for sharing this incredible event.
What a proud majestic vessel.
My brother's father-in-law was a sailor on a lakes freighter. He held down two positions on the ship. At sea he was a steersman, the highest rank you can attain without a college degree. In port he was a crane operator for loading and unloading cargo. These sailors are vital to the economy of the Great Lakes region. These ships are still the most cost-effective way of moving large quantities of bulk cargo like iron ore, grain, and cement.
Actually you can obtain a full "unlimited tonnage / oceans masters" license with an 8th grade education. You might have trouble being permanently hired by a unionized shipping company, but the licensing and documentation is issued by the U.S. Coast guard and there is no educational requirement other than being able to read at 8th grade level.
@@3DPDK
🤔 I have my doubts about whether a person can actually get that license with just an 8th grade education. So I'm going to test your theory. My sister's son is in 8th grade, and although he had wanted to go to college and become a doctor, I'm going to talk him into dropping out of school at the end of this year. That way he can go apply to get an "Ocean Master's license". If you're right, and they allow it with just an 8th grade edu, then he'll just become a sailor for the rest of his life, instead of a doctor.
If you're wrong, and he's denied the license, then he can just go and talk his way back into grade school. Or he can get a job as a janitor at that same high school. Either way, you and I will know for sure about the education requirements! It's a win-win situation for everyone.... 😁
@@HighlanderNorth1 I am a licensed Captain /100 ton Master with both a US license and international "less than 3000 ton master" license. I am a high school graduate but not a college graduate.
Your son must put in 720 documented days "under way" on any vessel, US or foreign to apply for a Masters license in the US. This time can be certified from age 13 on. He must take a 6 part test dealing with "seamanship", "navigation", "weather evaluation", something called "rights and responsibilities" "commercial shipping technologies (rigging and towing)" and finally a 10 question test on using the US Code of Federal Regulations. He must log 40 hours of classroom time dealing with these subjects. He must log 24 hours (three 8 hour days) in (hands on) fire fighting school, 40 classroom hours of river and open ocean RADAR evaluation, 40 classroom hours of celestial navigation, and pass an emergency first aid and performance survival at sea course. He must pass a Coast Guard physical and NEVER come up positive on a 5 point opioid piss test, of which the Coast Guard can require at ANY time during his career, and NEVER receive a DUI conviction.
*All of these thing can be learned by an 8th grade drop out, and by doing so can have a $300,000+ per year income.* College degree unnecessary. I once worked with a co-captain who dropped out after the 6th grade.
@@HighlanderNorth1 On career day in high school they don't tell you about the Merchant Marines specifically because it does not require a college degree or even a complete high school education, yet it's one of the highest paying careers out here. As a matter of fact I only know of two tech schools in the US that have courses relating to the Master's testing ... courses, not a degree program.
@@3DPDK
I was initially just joking. But after reading your post, I wish I would've known about this career option when I graduated high school in 1986! I assume that a person would be employed and paid while accomplishing all of the training and certification requirements you spoke of(?)
That's absolutely amazing that you could make $300,000 a year in that career, without even a college OR high school education!
The day come to decommissioned Arthur M Anderson from regular work voyages I think it would be great idea have it make tours on both sides of the borders it has alot of history that a person like me and thousands others love to see.
Down in Michigan as those big freighters travel up the south channel of the St Clair River near Algonac Michigan they draw the water out of the canals on Harsens Island as they pass by. It amazing to watch the water disappear leaving docks several feet above the muddy canal bottoms. When the water comes rushing back in it looks Iike a small tsunami rolling back in.
The first time you see that tidal surge is a bit scary. St Clair flats Harsens island, pretty cool place.
I saw them all day long every day when l went to college in the Soo. Knew them all by name. I went to college back in the days when the Fitz was among them.
One of the last Pilot house forward ships. A real classic and born the same year as me.
Also, they are making a comeback in a smaller version of Superyachts and support yachts.
M/V Stewart J. Cort
@@captandysir8670 Or the Roger Blough.
Have you seen the Mark W. Barker? Newest U.S. built ship on the Great Lakes. Not a 1000 footer... Does not have a forward Pilot house. It occurred to me... If every car for the past 10+ years can have a backup camera, and every big bus have a TV monitor instead of a rearview mirror, How many forward facing cameras can you afford on a 650 foot long ship???
Looks so amazing 🙂great video and thank you for sharing👍❤❤❤
Thanks for visiting
When the Anderson passes by her majesty can always put tears in my eyes.
During the day I was in the Induction Center in Jacksonville, Fl getting into the US Navy (my second hitch), the music system kept playing the "Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald". I was wondering if it was an omen. A couple years later, my little Frigate was caught in an Atlantic Hurricane, and nearly swamped! That damned song kept running through my mind. It holds a bad memory for me, apart from it's actual subject. I felt a part of the terror that the freighter crew felt that fateful night.
I can relate, having been a Marine on a LST,LPD,LHA during my time in the Corps. We got hit a few times with some crazy storms, especially in the North sea, English channel. That LST was like a toy boat in a bath tub, lol. I'd always hang out in the signal bridge 03 level, for the thrill of it.
The Destroyer I was on went through both Hurricane Gloria and Dean in the early 80’s. With Dean, we got caught when the storm track changed and caught a number of the evacuated ships out of Norfolk trying to sail out the VA-CAPES and around the storm but ending up going straight into the middle of it! Lol …. We sail right into the heart Dean with incredible waves we we’re crashing through. As we road UP the wave I’d crank open the throttle to keep the RPM’s up and then back off one the way back down. This went on for hours with the gage board and throttles heaving to and fro. Yup, that didn’t end well.
It was only 1 of two times I got sick in the engine room while on the throttles. 🤮
Lol …. The other time was during Hurricane Gloria but I think the port of call the day before might of had something to do with it! 😆
@@michaelgeisdorf6641 I hear ya, we had fast frigates with us, they took a beating too. I'd watch all the ships in our formation if I could see them with the signal bridges big eye.
@@KillrMillr7 I was stationed on a FF and we were escorting an amphibious assault group off the Hawaiian Islands and the weather was Unsettled, we were taking 25 to 30 degree rolls and I looked over at the LST and was thankful to be on a FRIGATE.
@@mikegracie3212 Yeah, those flat bottoms can be fun. Lol
The perfect vessel to leave the bridge to perform a task at the stern, only to arrive and realise you've forgotten what you went there for.
Five feet, five seconds...
That happens to me just between my chair and the kitchen.
Picture a person walks all the way to the stern. "Oh crap. I forgot my glasses" walks all the way back to the bow, can't find their glasses, scratches their head and finds them there. Wanders back to the stern. "Crap. What did I come back here for?"
My kitchen is 5-6 meters away and I forget why I'm there.
Amazing..I wish Houston ,tx had a place where they announced ships like this..
Get you a VHF walkie talkie & learn the local channels & you can follow along the traffic.
It's true. Five and a half minutes watching a ship come in. I can't unsee that.
Yes the paint job is like everything else in this country that the new generation does. totally without care or checking their work
Go woke, Go broke !!!
notice the stripe on the bow, cant miss it unless yur blind and ignorant !!!
I was in Coast Guard bootcamp when the Fitzgerald went down. Was not told of it and didn't know how current the wreck was until I heard the song and it was explained to me. Tragic!
I dont know what I was supposed to see on the bow. I shared this with my Husband who knows a lot more about these things than I do! What a sight to see tho! Lucky ppl who get to stand these and watch this come by!
I still don't know what it is I'm supposed to see.
@@HWPcville same for me...
@@HWPcville me either
Yep, me too. Maybe it was just clickbait?
took me a few reviews , then i noticed it .. The emblem that looks similar to an iron cross that the nazis used in their navy known as The Kriegsmarine
The Kriegsmarine (German pronunciation: [ˈkʁiːksmaˌʁiːnə], lit. 'War Navy') was the navy of Germany from 1935 to 1945.
today its now used now by the nazi ukraine azov battalion and other far right nazi batallion in the ukraine armed forces like the "right sektor" nice to see the united states arming nazis at a tune of 90 billion and counting !!!!
I don't know what I missed but at least I won't have try to unsee it
I took a picture of the Fitz as a kid. As it passed me, I kept taking pictures and cut and glued them together when they were printed! I lost it and many others to theft over the years...
the ship IS INCREDABLE .The sister ship ALWAYS comes to my mind.Brings a tear to eye.GORDON LIGHTFOOTgo take a listen.
Edmond And Arthur Are Men's Names So It Would Be Brother Ships!!! Not Sisters Because The Ship's Are Not Female They Are Male!!! Hence The Male Names!!!!!!
@@rockerpat1085 Ease up, damn.
I'm thankful that Gordon wrote/sang that song! Not being from that area, and being quite young when the tragedy occurred, I probably would have had very little knowledge of the Fitzgerald.
Gordon Lightfoot memorialized it with a very moving, powerful tribute!
The announcer refers to the ship as “she”
@@rockerpat1085 all ships are "she's" regardless of their name (except for Polynesian sailing proas which are "he's").
To the best of my knowledge, it started with the early age of sail when gunships, like fine ladies, required a lot of "paint and powder"
On the opening shot to the right of the sidewalk there is a great hotel to stay at if you are in the Duluth area. It's the first turn to right as you come across the bridge. Fireplace in the room and a great view of the bay.
I love little travel tips like this from people!! You ALWAYS find the best places this way, because you cannot rely on internet reviews due to companies that pay people to write fake reviews.
We have stayed at that hotel. First room on the second floor. Has a spa that you can watch the boats with the balcony doors open.
Hotel name is South Peir In.
Highly recommend staying
Agreed, and Fitgers about 10 blocks north of the port is also very good. DO NOT pick The Radisson downtown in an attempt to save $$; it's an awful hotel that I've had to stay at multiple times for business travel.
@@payersystempro I have never been a fan of Radisson Hotels, but invariably, certain companies love to book their employees to stay there!!
So cool,massive structure.
Being up close makes you realize how small you are. They are magnificent
Looks like a good ski boat with plenty of torque.
Just don’t fall. The turn around to pick you up may take a few days.😅
@@jimjustice581 that was good!
If you observe the canal, on the opposite shore/dock you can notice the water level change slightly lower as it enters. Speed up the video you notice it more. Amazing.
Good spot👍 - water doesn't compress (much) so has to move outa the way. There's virtually no wake with this vessel but there's still a lot of water being displaced.
You are incredibly observant.
This is called "channel effect". Aside from a pressure wave moving outward from the bow, the ship's prop is basically pumping water out of the channel ahead of the boat and pushing it into the channel behind it. The deeper the depth of the hull and/or the shallower the channel the greater the effect. It effects handling the ship in two major ways. 1. The ship tends to stay dead center in the channel without input from the helm. 2. Where there is only marginal clearance between the keel and floor of the channel, the ship can literally suck the water out from under itself and sit the keel down into the mud.
@@3DPDK crazy, it has the exact opposite effect that I would think, due to displacement it seems it would rise. Interesting.
@@chrisw5150 That would be your first instinct! It's amazing that the props push so much water behind the ship that the opposite actually happens, isn't it!
I worked for Bethlehem Steel in Burns Harbor, Indiana when the Fitz sank. In 2017 I went to Duluth & by luck saw the Anderson & Tregurtha. These are massive ships up close & cause a pretty good size wake as that canal is only 75 ft wide. Superior was choppy & raining that day & so.e people that stood close to the canal wall got wet from the waves spilling over. The ships were just majestic looking. Hope to get back there this year.
We don’t build great ships like this anymore these are massive majestic ships that can still work these waters and do it cost effective
Thanks for the post
Yes we do build ships like this,
Still steam driven after all these years. I know several freighters that had their engine rooms 'cut off' and now powered by tugs lashed into a pocket at the stern. Sure would love a tour of their engine room. :)
Steam turbine ... wonder if that was original.
Look into it - a nuclear powered ship STILL drives the wheels (props) with steam. Only ships with EMD diesels (engines used on freight trains) drive the shafts directly from the motor and these are usually only found on smaller ships. Many modern war ships are powered by super heated steam, heated in various ways including turbo jet engines. It's the most adaptive and efficient way to develop huge amounts of torque needed to spin steel or sometimes brass wheels with a 10 to 16 foot diameter or more.
@@3DPDK actually, very few ships, other than nuclear ships, remain steam powered, and virtually none have been built in 40+ years. Big tankers and container ships use massive direct-drive diesels, often double-acting and or 2-stroke layouts. The engine stops and starts in reverse to reverse the main shaft. Look up “Sulzer type diesel.” Modern warships, like destroyers, guided mission cruisers, etc. typically use gas turbines. Some, like the recently cancelled LCS class use diesels for cruising and can switch to gas turbines for high speed (CODOG). Cruise ships and things like the Pathfinder class oceanographic ships use diesel-electric drive, where the number of diesels running at any given time can be matched to the needed load. As for EMD, well, they’ve kinda become a minor player. GE diesel, MAN, MTU, Fairbanks-Morse/Alco, Colt-Pielstick, Caterpillar, etc. probably have more market share these days.
@@3DPDK Not too many nucs on the Great Lakes though. Just saying...
Uhm, I'm still confused as to what it is about the ship's bow that was supposed to be so mind-blowing that we "won't be able to unsee it". Did I just miss something?
Thank you for sharing this Sir!
Never get tired of seeing AMA come into Duluth , even on rewind !
These huge ships freak me out being way longer than the water they run in is deep in many places. The Edmund Fitzgerald could easily have stuck her bow into the bottom while the stern was still high and dry...crazy.
The Edmund Fitzgerald was 728 feet long and the max depth of Lake Superior is 1330 feet. This ship is a little longer than the Edmund Fitzgerald at 767'.
Yep she sunk in 500 feet of water, so over 200 feet would be sticking out
@@douglasfark169: Get a VHF radio and learn a few channels. You may get overwhelmed with info.
It's very, very unlikely to sink that way though.
@@lionhounds It's cold enough that decomposition isn't fast enough to release any gases that make a human body float.
Looking Great
She is, no matter what.
Love the Anderson! THanks for your hard work Paul!! You’re a peach!!!
Cool old ship. Great to see it back in service.
Question.... what is it about the bow that I'm supposed to be looking at and will not be able to unsee once I see it? I'm new to this stuff.
I'm not new and I still don't know either.
It's called click bait. They put up a nonsense headline just to get you to watch the video.
Look at the bow, on the "left" side the bow thruster marking it is about water level, on theright side it is way up high.
@@PaulScinocca anchor slot
@@PaulScinocca cant see the right side.....I'm guessing they do this so no matter how far she sits in the water you will know where the bow thrusters are located.
She's a beast!!!! And dare I say still a looker? Cool video.
Watching towboats & Great lakes ships,it's a little odd but I always enjoy seeing one radar antenna catch up with the other as they swing in synchronization for a bit before the one pulls ahead of the other one's rotation.
They really built these ships to last. I am sure she's been refitted multiple times but still, build in '52 and still workin'
I’ve watched her come in and out of Buffalo river when I was stationed at USCG BASE BUFFALO NY. in the late 70’s. Grand lady of the lakes.
Great Video !!!
Thanks!
I remember passing her to port near Detroit as crew on a 30’ Trojan named Bodacious. Humbling and awesome.
What am I missing on the bow? I just recently learned about the Edmond Fitzgerald… but I didn’t know this ship healed search for her, very cool that it’s still around and in service!
The only thing I can see is maybe they are talking about the Piolet house being there. Many ships have the farther back.
The brown and black form the face and hair of a Native American. The rectangular opening is an eye. There is also a dip in the brown at the bottom outside for an ear.
Preity week if you ask me, could use a nice colorful headband to make it really pop.
I hope you have heard the song about the Edmund Fitzgerald by Gordon Lightfoot. Probably my most favorite song ever.
@@daydreambeliever6603 Okay, I was wondering why there was no anchor showing!
Very cool, thanks!
I knew a sailor that was crewing the Anderson the night the Fitzgerald was lost. His brief recitation of events that night was hair-raising in its flat, dead delivery.
My uncle was one of the construction supers for McDowell Wellman on the Great Northern dock in Allouez. they put in a bucket loader and a belt transporter for the BN: you can still see it near the President's Bar to this day, albeit now it is covered. I used to see the Fitzgerald al that dock and once in drydock much closer to the High Bridge, My uncle had talked to the crew and claimed that it used to torque in the middle in high waves due to having a middle section added to increase its capacity, My uncle also worked on the DM&IR docks. I still keep a clear bottle full of taconite here next to a postcard of the Ryerson at the BN dock, Oddly enough, my grandad was retired from Ryerson Steel.
I don't doubt that one could see some of the long and skinny older ships twist when loaded in rought water. But the Fitzgerald was never lengthened. The Anderson was, ironically in early 1975, just months before the "gales of November came early". Kinda spooky, eh?
Just seen her coming through the soo locks, was totally thrilled.
Lived in Superior for 40 years. Still make it back each summer. Miss the lake, this is a great area to visit.
Born and raised in superior touched by the sight of these huge vessels that brave the water.
That was awesome. God rest the souls of the Edmund Fitzgerald.
Lets sing it....The legend lives on from the Chippewa on down of the big lake they gichee gumee..
What are we looking for on the bow the straight up and down line of it or the missing anchor and rub mark running back along the hull or the dent in the bow?
What a beautiful boat
Paul, thanks for another interesting video. I like reading TH-cam comments, and I think this video generated more comments than any of your other videos.
I love ships and their history. Please keep up the great work.
Reminded me of the opening scene in Space Balls. Just needs a sticker on the back that says, "We brake for nobody".
May the 'Schwartz' be with U....=))
What a stately vessel. It's pristine.
So cool!
For a good view of the Great Lakes freighters doing what they do, go to Sailors' Encampment off Ontario Highway 548 on St. Joseph Island. The upbound shipping channel is right there. The channel itself is so narrow you could hit a baseball from Canada into the USA. Or it looks narrow enough, anyway. Certainly an easy swim if you didn't freeze! The St. Mary's River is bloody cold!!
They really built these ships to last. I'm sure she's been upgraded often, but, still.
They’re in freshwater too, so that helps
Been to Whitefish Point and to the lighthouse and museum. Fascinating
I swear I was stone cold sober the day I noticed that. 😁👍🏻
You and me both!
Well they were right about one thing I was looking at the bow and definitely I now can't unsee it because I didn't see anything to see so it's easy to not unsee it. What was it I was supposed to see in any case?
Same question??
Thank you
Just hearing the stats gave me goose bums. That's a unique vessel for sure.
This reminded me of the star cruiser that was chasing Princess Leia's ship at the very beginning of the first (A New Hope) movie....the ship just semed to go on forever such was its vastness. This ship reminded me of this. It seems to go on indefinitely........cool.
Probably has different weather patterns at the bow and stern. Its a big mother
One of the best opening scenes in movie history, in my opinion! I was 12 years old when that movie first came out. My mom took me to a matinee. I was immediately awestruck when that ship just kept filling the screen from above!
I commanded that star cruiser for 47 years. It was very long.
In 2008 I was motoring a small sailboat up the Detroit River on my way to Milwaukee when I noticed a ship steaming north. It was the Anderson! She looks a lot better now.
That's absolutely amazing
That's a lot of metal to come sliding gracefully by your window at any time of the year!
I had to listen to it twice. It didn't register at the first attempt, but I heard it right - 1952. That's five whole years before I was born!
Hard to imagine that the Edmond Fitzgerald was lost when I was still in school. So far back that it's now a page in history, and the Arthur M Anderson is still plying its trade at 70 years old.
This is amazing!
Indeed it is! Thanks
Born in 57, also. I lived in Ft Wayne that November. My aunt and I were glued to the unfolding horror. Thanks to Gordon Lightfoot, she and her crew will never be forgotten, nor will the Arthur Anderson and her crew. Wonder if it will ever be discovered what caused the Fitzgerald to go down...
@@BeanieScooter Have you ever seen "Maritime Horrors" channel? - He gives a good historical account of many a shipwreck, including the Edmond Fitzgerald. Still no more a definitive answer than anyone else, but enough to allow the viewer to understand events that unfolded that night.
It's a sad, but true, fact that shipwrecks leave no conclusive evidence, and what lies on the sea floor is usually inaccessible, or mangled and torn almost beyond recognition.
For some reason, I tend to think of the Edmond Fitzgerald every November.
"The lake, it is said, doesn't give up her dead" - Gordon Lightfoot.
@@whitesapphire5865 Thanks for the information. IMHO, since there was no distress call from Captain McSorley, none of the life boats readied, the 2 massive waves that could have combined as reported by Captain Cooper, I tend to believe this magnificent ship took a nose dive to the bottom. Haunts me wondering if the crew even had time to realize... the lyrics from Gordon Lightfoot 'does anyone know where the love of God goes, when the waves turn the minutes to hours' ... I pray they didn't suffer. Bless all their families, and very grateful to Gordon Lightfoot for keeping the ship and crew alive.
I'm prior navy and served on board 2 different steam ships where I worked in the engine rooms operating the boilers and main propulsion. I might cone out of retirement for a chance to steam one of these
If you have a Merchant Marine Unlimited HP steam endorsement then there are still a few ships around that need them. Steam experience is getting more and more rare
😁 With manpower issues, you may have a better chance than you think!
As long as that ship is, you'd think it would break in half riding some of those massive storm appearing out of nowhere unexpected. Amazing
I see her. She has a flower in her hair. Cool. Thanks Paul .
That is one long ship. The battleship USS Missouri is even longer than this cargo vessel. Unbelievable feats of engineering these monsters.
Wow! That was really cool to see, 👍
What?
Best canal video. Countless reasons, watchers know. Well done.
That is one long boat!
The Anderson built in 1952 was 647 ft long (197 m) (as built) and an additional 120' was added in 1975 retrofit making it
767 ft long (234 m)
There is also one more draft mark on the stbd vs. the port side. It probably came out of the last yard periodic visit that way since the crew usually try very hard NOT to paint over the things that require much effort putting them back on, easier to cut in and around rather than re-create. However, stuff happens.
Did not notice that, I was referring to the bow thruster marks are not aligned port and starboard.
@@PaulScinocca Since you had put the bait out there to look at the bow I looked closely at the bow and found the thruster marks are off but then I noticed the draft marks as well, looks like 29 on one side and 28 on the other. In any case, that whole class of ships were good looking, they even made presentable self-unloaders, but the best looking one of the bunch, the William Clay Ford was the first to go for scrap in 1986. I may be biased though, because the Greene and the Armco were somewhat fancier.
@@timothydayton5373 you win! I had no clue on that one !!
I would love to see this. If I am ever in Duluth on vacation. Someday…. Would love to take my kids to see this!
It is a very popular thing for the tourists in Duluth to do.
I am in Sarnia, in 1975 fall was working at the Imperial Oil wax and Lube expansion on the St Clair River and a lake freighter was docked at the bunker Fuel dock and the name was the Edmund Fritzgerald.
She looks so similar to Edmund Fitzgerald. Kind of sad to think that had she not broken in two and sank that ship might still be sailing to this day too.
Why Do You Refer To A Ship Named For A MAN As A She? Get Your Pronouns Correct!!!!
@@rockerpat1085 Because all boats, ships are referred to as “she.” Do the research yourself, please do not take my word for it.
@@jesseostone386 Then Name Them WOMEN'S NAMES!!!!!
Women Would Be Pitching A Fit If A Ship Was Named For Mitchell Obama And We Called It "He"!!!!!!!!
And You Damn Well Know I'm Right!!!!!!
@@rockerpat1085 Actually I thought "Mitchell" Obama (your words) WAS a he. Freudian slip?
@@gsdalpha1358 No Slip Intended!!!!
I saw the glorious American Flag waving proudly on the bow.
Once you see it, YOU won’t unsee it? Wow…..what did I see that I won’t unsee ever again if I see it?
Never realized they are that long. WOW
I thought it was because the bow looks like an extra from Last of the Mohicans sneaking up on someone with their head almost submerged.
THANK YOU! That’s what I thought, but wasn’t too sure if it’s what I was meant to be seeing!