I flatbed. And my average wait time for loading can be 1.5 - 2 hours. Sometimes longer but not much. I’d rather wait a couple hours than wait 8+ or a day like the van world. Once loaded it’s all in your hands how fast you get back on the road. I like the balance of physical work and driving. Also the satisfaction I secured that load, I can see that load, physical check that load. I don’t think I’d like the out of sight out mind feeling with van trailers.
man last year my first year owner operator and i never drove for anyone, "did 20 years on drilling rigs". i drove 77k miles made 225k and worked 30 weeks .. 3-4 days.. i guess i didn't do that bad.. anyone that drives 150k miles, has no life
The wait time is generally longer when you pull box. Winter sucks for a flatbed hauler. I've pulled both over a 30yr carrier, and greatly preferred flatbed which was 25yrs of my carrier. The money is better pulling flat and if you get to o/d or heavy haul the money is way better, the work is harder but to me it was worth it. My advice is if you're young and strong flatbed is the way to go.
Yeah I just started driving 3 months ago. I also did Tankers & Transported when I was Active Duty Army so I got some experience when it comes to securing the loads. Im only 24 so all the old heads told me to do flatbed. It’s actually fun for now, but I’m out here learning. One day at a time.
I love it, a driver sold me one of his trailers and it had a conestoga I told him to take it off. Paid him $4000.00 less. 45 foot 2006 chaparral rated for 100,000 lbs. In 2021 $16,000.00. Love it took home $195,000.00 after fuel. 60-70 hour weeks but did take some days off
I’m a two million mile driver with two companies. I’m now retired at 70 yrs old. I love your videos and short videos. I miss the road every day. My son now drives. He is trying flatbed starting next week. He says I would not like trucking now. He said it was fun when I drove….it is not fun anymore.
Not gonna lie lol there are days I would love to just back up to the dock, but I absolutely love the flatbed division. I like just about everything about it as well as overdimensional because I love a challenge. Yes Turpin can suck, especially in crappy weather or really windy days but there is also something to be said about a trailer with a beautiful tarpon job. Rotates can be awesome for the fact you don’t have to tarp but on windy days they can also be a nightmare, depending on the grade or type of surface you are on it can also pose many problems. My biggest complaint is feeding the strap through the seal. All in all though The bigger majority of my driving career has been flatbed and I’m not sure I could go back to doing van work. Awesome video brother it’s a very good breakdown👍👍
For flatbed thats kinda normal as they usually deliver to developing areas. And construction zones and farms there work doesnt slow down as much as reefer or box. Most of the loads are usually long distance aswell if ur capped on miles its because of permits and ur trailer length not because the work isnt there.
Not everyone is qualified to do flatbeds. If you're short and weak, don't even think about doing flatbeds. That is why you don't see a lot of women doing flatbeds.
yeah they have a hard time throwing straps, and most like to be pretty while trucking which dont get me wrong is ok... but it wont stay if ur flatbed. Big Rig Becca is a girl who does flatbed with a positive attitude and she's young! She's been at it for a year and works her butt off not everyone built like that.
I'm an US driver who's done both flatbed over dimensional and reefer and dry van and have never been paid more than 58 companies and have been a driver for over 20 years
I did flatbed when I started out and I don’t think that it should be a mileage pay job I think it should definitely be an hourly pay job even though you’re over the road because there is so much work that goes into it besides driving you spend hours and hours every week securing and re-securing and checking your load and rolling up tarps and tarping loads and you you spend a lot of time keeping your equipment organized any load that requires chains it takes a lot of work to get the chains out and then chain it down and then when you’re done you have to put the chains up and keep them organized and the fact that you only get paid by the mile even though you get a little bit more money per mile I don’t think it’s worth it and then there’s a lot of ways you can get injured doing it you can fall off the trailer you can fall off the top of the load a lot of things but there are some people that really like it but I definitely don’t think that it pays enough not even close I think since dry van is paying about $.70-$.75 a mile I think flatbed should be about $1.25 a mile for a solo driver that might be worth it because you do a lot less miles is just the way it is it takes a lot longer to get loaded and unloaded probably 95 to 99% of your loads are live load and unload that plus the securementTime it’s typical to be at a shipper or receiver for 2 to 4 hours easily if not more
@@Invictus13666 are you an English teacher? I’m just curious I didn’t go to college you probably did but I do the best I can with what I have available. I understand there’s a difference in how educated and uneducated people speak but education is not an indication of intelligence either, though there’s a lot of smart people that talk like me. We just came up the hard way.
They roughly take home the same. Taxes on $189000 is little over $60000 plus truck payment of $35000 plus $10000 in repairs that’s Net $85000. Paid off truckers would make more.
Went back to flatbed after 2 years of reefer and i instantly regret it. I dont miss the 2 hour secure times. The tarping and the constant stopping to check on the load. Idk what O/O make but the minor difference in pay aint worth all the extra bs. Getting back to a van asap
Roll, tights I've done it before. I'll do it, but the only thing that I hate it on that part with the roll tights is that some of these customers you get to. They have you sitting and waiting too long Uber time sometimes and and I understand that no matter which division you go to, they have you sit and wait. And on top of it, you get some of these companies that gives you 5 or 6 stops and there are places that doesn't even have a 18 Wheeler's park, at which they want you to take it straight to the construction site. Some of these small companies you make a load to them. You put take off cargo, then they put more cargo back on you. To go drop it off at their job site.But they're not paying you for those There is a old saying in Spanish which I'll translate it to you in english. Favors do not pay my bills and mostly a lot of these places.They want you to do favors for them.Favors don't pay my bills
I was looking for a job and saw that you guys hire people with at least 1 year of experience. Any chance you hire newly licensed drivers who can cross border and have Fast card ready?
I’m currently doing lease purchase at CRST but I’ve seen your lease purchase numbers and I don’t get close to those net numbers so maybe I’m not with the right company. The lp I’m in I like except I want to pay off my truck early and I’m not able to. I also live in Arizona and it seems hard to find lease purchase flatbed companies in Arizona that have freight to get me home. Do you have any advice Ronen?
@@RecklessAndroid33 CRST never has loads out of phoenix so I think I’m just with the wrong company. Do you know any flatbed lease purchase companies that gets freight in az?
@@knownunknown3980 are you dryvan or flatbed? Either way they are really good people here. They have helped me a lot! But if you do flatbed there are certain areas that are difficult to get to. What state are you in?
There is no all around insurance cost which is why they didnt do that. Alot of it depends on the MVR u have as insurance also goes by what u carry. Since flatbed can haul anything from a steel coil to whole ass planes and bridges. Ur insurance will never be the same from diver to driver
What if your interested in doing flatbed but you don't have any experience and you're currently under a lease pulling dry van...... What would you recommend?
I flatbed. And my average wait time for loading can be 1.5 - 2 hours. Sometimes longer but not much. I’d rather wait a couple hours than wait 8+ or a day like the van world. Once loaded it’s all in your hands how fast you get back on the road. I like the balance of physical work and driving. Also the satisfaction I secured that load, I can see that load, physical check that load. I don’t think I’d like the out of sight out mind feeling with van trailers.
exactly! i did reefer for a year , 6 hour wait was almost a standard bit now i haul steel coils 90% of yhe time 30 min in and out
man last year my first year owner operator and i never drove for anyone, "did 20 years on drilling rigs". i drove 77k miles made 225k and worked 30 weeks .. 3-4 days.. i guess i didn't do that bad.. anyone that drives 150k miles, has no life
Local and/ or flatbed ? Or on the road ? Just curious
Sound like you winning to me
The wait time is generally longer when you pull box. Winter sucks for a flatbed hauler. I've pulled both over a 30yr carrier, and greatly preferred flatbed which was 25yrs of my carrier. The money is better pulling flat and if you get to o/d or heavy haul the money is way better, the work is harder but to me it was worth it. My advice is if you're young and strong flatbed is the way to go.
Yeah I just started driving 3 months ago. I also did Tankers & Transported when I was Active Duty Army so I got some experience when it comes to securing the loads. Im only 24 so all the old heads told me to do flatbed. It’s actually fun for now, but I’m out here learning. One day at a time.
@@TruckingWithMikehow’s it going now with flatbed? I’m currently at orientation for flatbed. Get on the road with a trainer next week
Most drivers now days don't want to do flatbed. Because it's hard to tarp in flip flops.
Shame on the mess🤣🤣
I’m definitely going flatbed when I get my license. Have no problem securing the load and tarping
I love it, a driver sold me one of his trailers and it had a conestoga I told him to take it off. Paid him $4000.00 less. 45 foot 2006 chaparral rated for 100,000 lbs. In 2021 $16,000.00. Love it took home $195,000.00 after fuel. 60-70 hour weeks but did take some days off
Give maverick a call. I’m still working for them. I changed over to hauling glass to be a more skillful driver
@@antraxx7519 how it’s going now? I’m currently at orientation at P&S for flatbed. Get on the road with trainer next week
I’m a two million mile driver with two companies. I’m now retired at 70 yrs old. I love your videos and short videos. I miss the road every day. My son now drives. He is trying flatbed starting next week. He says I would not like trucking now. He said it was fun when I drove….it is not fun anymore.
Too much wait time at shipper and receivers?? It takes a fraction of the time compared to dock bumping lol
If look closely at the year income of the owner operator and you assume a 50% all around deduction. You pay your company employees very well.
Not gonna lie lol there are days I would love to just back up to the dock, but I absolutely love the flatbed division. I like just about everything about it as well as overdimensional because I love a challenge. Yes Turpin can suck, especially in crappy weather or really windy days but there is also something to be said about a trailer with a beautiful tarpon job. Rotates can be awesome for the fact you don’t have to tarp but on windy days they can also be a nightmare, depending on the grade or type of surface you are on it can also pose many problems. My biggest complaint is feeding the strap through the seal. All in all though The bigger majority of my driving career has been flatbed and I’m not sure I could go back to doing van work. Awesome video brother it’s a very good breakdown👍👍
Flat bed is also extremely dangerous depending on what your carrying…..
well driving 7.5k miles in 15 days is something can not be happening all year around so numbers are inaccurate.
It's possible
For flatbed thats kinda normal as they usually deliver to developing areas. And construction zones and farms there work doesnt slow down as much as reefer or box. Most of the loads are usually long distance aswell if ur capped on miles its because of permits and ur trailer length not because the work isnt there.
Not everyone is qualified to do flatbeds. If you're short and weak, don't even think about doing flatbeds. That is why you don't see a lot of women doing flatbeds.
yeah they have a hard time throwing straps, and most like to be pretty while trucking which dont get me wrong is ok... but it wont stay if ur flatbed. Big Rig Becca is a girl who does flatbed with a positive attitude and she's young! She's been at it for a year and works her butt off not everyone built like that.
😂😂
I'm an US driver who's done both flatbed over dimensional and reefer and dry van and have never been paid more than 58 companies and have been a driver for over 20 years
I did flatbed when I started out and I don’t think that it should be a mileage pay job I think it should definitely be an hourly pay job even though you’re over the road because there is so much work that goes into it besides driving you spend hours and hours every week securing and re-securing and checking your load and rolling up tarps and tarping loads and you you spend a lot of time keeping your equipment organized any load that requires chains it takes a lot of work to get the chains out and then chain it down and then when you’re done you have to put the chains up and keep them organized and the fact that you only get paid by the mile even though you get a little bit more money per mile I don’t think it’s worth it and then there’s a lot of ways you can get injured doing it you can fall off the trailer you can fall off the top of the load a lot of things but there are some people that really like it but I definitely don’t think that it pays enough not even close I think since dry van is paying about $.70-$.75 a mile I think flatbed should be about $1.25 a mile for a solo driver that might be worth it because you do a lot less miles is just the way it is it takes a lot longer to get loaded and unloaded probably 95 to 99% of your loads are live load and unload that plus the securementTime it’s typical to be at a shipper or receiver for 2 to 4 hours easily if not more
Flat bed hourly should start at 50 bucks an hour
Holy run on sentence Batman
@@Invictus13666 the Batmobile lost its wheel, and Joker got away
@@harryknutts8428 And here, a comma, unneeded.
@@Invictus13666 are you an English teacher? I’m just curious I didn’t go to college you probably did but I do the best I can with what I have available. I understand there’s a difference in how educated and uneducated people speak but education is not an indication of intelligence either, though there’s a lot of smart people that talk like me. We just came up the hard way.
They roughly take home the same. Taxes on $189000 is little over $60000 plus truck payment of $35000 plus $10000 in repairs that’s Net $85000. Paid off truckers would make more.
Dry van for the last 26 years and I’m not even 50 yet. 😎 Never tried flatbed. I think it is too much extra work and during winter it would be awful. 🥶
I flatbed and it takes me longer to secure than the wait time at a shipper or receiver
Roman is advertising for flarbed
Went back to flatbed after 2 years of reefer and i instantly regret it. I dont miss the 2 hour secure times. The tarping and the constant stopping to check on the load. Idk what O/O make but the minor difference in pay aint worth all the extra bs. Getting back to a van asap
Every question and problem I had you answered thank you
Please make a pay comparison video of tanker drivers
I’m going flatbed once I get my CDL
Roll, tights I've done it before. I'll do it, but the only thing that I hate it on that part with the roll tights is that some of these customers you get to. They have you sitting and waiting too long Uber time sometimes and and I understand that no matter which division you go to, they have you sit and wait. And on top of it, you get some of these companies that gives you 5 or 6 stops and there are places that doesn't even have a 18 Wheeler's park, at which they want you to take it straight to the construction site. Some of these small companies you make a load to them. You put take off cargo, then they put more cargo back on you. To go drop it off at their job site.But they're not paying you for those There is a old saying in Spanish which I'll translate it to you in english. Favors do not pay my bills and mostly a lot of these places.They want you to do favors for them.Favors don't pay my bills
What that’s crazy, I’d b calling the company like “ummm they want me to make a extra stop that’s not on the list “ insane
Perfect !
Good info ...
Thank you !
Was considering a roll tite for my trailer, still have the option of O/S loads.
Hi Ronan, in your videos, is the calculation in US or Canadian dollars?
I was looking for a job and saw that you guys hire people with at least 1 year of experience. Any chance you hire newly licensed drivers who can cross border and have Fast card ready?
Can you do a video like this about tank truck driver?
I’m currently doing lease purchase at CRST but I’ve seen your lease purchase numbers and I don’t get close to those net numbers so maybe I’m not with the right company. The lp I’m in I like except I want to pay off my truck early and I’m not able to. I also live in Arizona and it seems hard to find lease purchase flatbed companies in Arizona that have freight to get me home. Do you have any advice Ronen?
Flatbed runs to Arizona all the time usually in the Phoenix area. I live in Vegas I usually pull something to Phoenix then go empty home.
@@RecklessAndroid33 CRST never has loads out of phoenix so I think I’m just with the wrong company. Do you know any flatbed lease purchase companies that gets freight in az?
Gonna do there Lease purchase I'm NE hearing good things about the program how much do you gross a week
@@knownunknown3980 are you dryvan or flatbed? Either way they are really good people here. They have helped me a lot! But if you do flatbed there are certain areas that are difficult to get to. What state are you in?
@@knownunknown3980 also sorry I forgot to say gross but gross weekly is between 4K-6k depending on the week. I usually net around 2k-3k a week
Why dont you do a vedio on fuel what are the drivers taking home after fuel in america right now
very good
I really like this concept
What happened to Brian?
Ok thanks
Tarping could be solved if you got curtain side trailers like Europe as it's basically a flatbed with a huge tarp/curtain covering it.
Thats the roll-tite style he's talking about.
taxes are humongous in Canada is it similar in US ? 🤨
Excuse my ignorance as a non trucker ( yet) but have yet to see any of the pay examples mention the expense of insurance in the truck.
There is no all around insurance cost which is why they didnt do that. Alot of it depends on the MVR u have as insurance also goes by what u carry. Since flatbed can haul anything from a steel coil to whole ass planes and bridges. Ur insurance will never be the same from diver to driver
Cool 😎 but no one give job opportunity for new driver even I have big experience in back home 😢
doesn't seem that much better to be an O/O because that extra hundred k going toward truck payments/repairs
Average truck repairs 12- 20k a year & payments could be 20-35k a year so you could make around 45-68k per year being o/o
mmm, smth does not add up. My trucks gross between 20-40 a month, how is that this drivers make so low?
What if your interested in doing flatbed but you don't have any experience and you're currently under a lease pulling dry van...... What would you recommend?
Just do it. Im new and learning as i go. Watch TH-cam vids and i drive an owner truck. Be safe
So basically all these statements are for the year are for being OTR for 50 weeks a year?
Cad dollars or American??
really like this channel & its content. #facts 👍
How many per diems in the 0.77?
I would definitely like to do roll tite
Aren’t Canadians Americans too?
We are snow mexicans and proud thank you very much
rolltite is also better bc u dont have to listen to that reefer behind u all night
Gilkarov is an Isreali name though. 🤦.
Dry van sounds about right……
Also weather. I won't be in the freezing cold or blazing heat strapping and tarping a load.