Lungbarrow: An Attempted Explanation (Doctor Who)

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ต.ค. 2024

ความคิดเห็น • 199

  • @SNAREWILD
    @SNAREWILD 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +110

    she lung on my barrow til i arguably get retconned out of canon

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

      cook

  • @bethos9215
    @bethos9215 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +143

    Alright. Fuck yeah. Now do a faction paradox + war in heaven video 😈. You’d literally be the first person to do it I think.

    • @endme1654
      @endme1654 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      real

    • @Sean_P._OBrien
      @Sean_P._OBrien 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh no

    • @timecontroller8800
      @timecontroller8800 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yes we need more on both the faction and the war in heaven

    • @zackrocklin-waltch6140
      @zackrocklin-waltch6140 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wait yes please

    • @creed8712
      @creed8712 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I’ve wanted an explanation video on them for awhile. Everytime I try to get an answer through a wiki I end up at jar jar of the Binks clan

  • @JohnSmith-wolandworld
    @JohnSmith-wolandworld 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    I’m so glad someone finally got to explaining lungbarrow to normal doctor who fans.

    • @Camo1177
      @Camo1177 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Yeah, when I was first watching Doctor Who I did a lot of the research on the wiki, so I mostly just got the gist of ‘Lungbarrow is important, Time Lords are grown in looms’ as the Doctors origins.

  • @toast99bubbles
    @toast99bubbles 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    I've pointed out multiple times that The Timeless Children and the whole plotline Chibnall did with that and the Flix fob watch stuff was just a simplified version of the Lungbarrow storyline and people don't seem to get what I mean by that. Thanks for agreeing with me.
    Also, I've not seen your channel before, but I've subscribed.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thank you!

    • @macloonan23
      @macloonan23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Not simplified... just better. Better idea, better written, better executed.
      EDIT Dammit I was trying to say Lungbarrow was the far superior version but somehow got completely twisted. (I was probably very stoned.)

    • @gameover9390
      @gameover9390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@macloonan23You best watch your tongue, boy. Saying things like that may cause you to end up in the dirt, real soon.

    • @macloonan23
      @macloonan23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@gameover9390Reading back I realized I was making completely the wrong point

    • @ForTheLoveOfWho
      @ForTheLoveOfWho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I agree and have said the same myself. I also have a lot of appreciation for "Lungbarrow," even though I prefer "The Timeless Children" and "Flux."

  • @golden_gloo
    @golden_gloo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    Leela being the Doctor's biological mother reminds me of some theories I've heard such as Jackie Tyler being the Doctor's biological mother. There's even the parallel where both times, the Doctor either wants each mother to name the child after him or the mother says they are going to as a joke.

  • @timecontroller8800
    @timecontroller8800 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Mate plenty of us care about lungbarrow it’s crazy but it’s also one of the craziest doctor who stories ever and I love it also Mel is great in big finish

  • @VaguelyRowlet
    @VaguelyRowlet 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    I just lost 40 minutes of my life watching someone talk about a show i've never watched, and I enjoyed it! woo! good video!

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      GOAT

  • @JB-kr5rk
    @JB-kr5rk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I love that shot of the special weapons Dalek nuking that gate like it’s personal

    • @OzBaxter
      @OzBaxter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      I always wondered why they haven't brought back the Special Weapons Daleks. Imagine those interspersed with regular Daleks on the battlefield of Gallifrey during the Time War.

    • @JB-kr5rk
      @JB-kr5rk 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@OzBaxter yeah they chuck him in as an Easter egg here and there but I wanna see that sucker go BOOM

  • @safebox36
    @safebox36 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Something I find interesting about the EU is the Faction Paradox novels were canon at one point, but after losing the licence they continued making entries without any direct reference to the show to avoid copyright issues.
    Chibnall pulled from it for his storylines, the Timeless Child and the Planet Time specifically.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The Time War and the War in Heaven also share quite a few similarities

  • @edb2863
    @edb2863 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Finally someone is talking about this! Lots of DW youtubers seem to gloss over it, or glance past it, but never dive in
    Thank you for your service

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      any time my brother🫡

  • @ethantucker92838
    @ethantucker92838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    "Whats up every BODY" genuinely my favorite youtuber intro

  • @lbricks7631
    @lbricks7631 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Marc Platt deserves a Lollipop and many pats on the back for what he accomplished in Lungbarrow.

  • @spacepenguins8939
    @spacepenguins8939 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    So much is this feels like a proto timeless child- which is what probably caused the “Vinder is the doctors dad theory’s”
    I do wonder how this would have gone down and been revived if done in the 80’s.
    Would it have been like the TC or maybe better received especially since the show would have ended shortly after this would have been shown so that would have been it with no follow up

  • @jayejaejjjeijay5648
    @jayejaejjjeijay5648 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I have a well-worn copy of the first printing of Lungbarrow, which doesn't have the introduction or the 'previously on' bit. It's my favorite of all the books

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      the Previously is from the 2003 edition, the introduction is a neat add-on

  • @randomjoke69667
    @randomjoke69667 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Lovely! I must say and admit the VNAs are rarely my cup of tea, what I heard from most of them doesn't sound too appealing but oh well, maybe I should read some more of them before I can fully judge, that being said: Glad to see this corner of who being talked about it here! Hopefully that means if this video does well, you dive more into the EU and especially stuff regarding 8 :D!

  • @Tom1-BHS
    @Tom1-BHS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    this is actually such an AMAZING video! I have heard Lungbarrow mentioned so many times and have always wanted to know what it was! thanks

  • @joshsobchak9902
    @joshsobchak9902 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    I've seen Lungbarrow described as the true finale to Classic Doctor Who, which makes me wonder what a New Who finale would look like. I am interested in checking this book out for myself- it's one section of the show's history I haven't gotten much into.

    • @gameover9390
      @gameover9390 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Twice Upon Time would be a great finale, in a some ways it was the finale for a lot of people.

  • @ManiBatchelor
    @ManiBatchelor 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    This was absolutely mind boggling and massively did my head in. Amazing video!

  • @ohdarah
    @ohdarah 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    been watching your channel for weeks and you've convinced me to go watch the Classic Who series(plus i have access to it now lol) and it's been fun so far. Great content friend, keep it up!

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      LETS GO! Hope you enjoy it man!

  • @theamericanwhovian5678
    @theamericanwhovian5678 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Can you do Faction Paradox and the War in Heaven? Great video!

  • @F_MV1
    @F_MV1 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    dwfan91 is back with another classic

  • @jeremy355
    @jeremy355 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love the video. I have all the VNA's , a small collection of the VMA's, and an even smaller collection of the BBC MA's. I have read half of VNA's, and I'm trying to work up to Lungbarrow. Like you said some of the books are amazing, some good, and some total drek. But for me I got into Doctor Who in 1990, and living in a small midwest town in the US, the books were exciting to get, when I could find them, as the VHS releases were about 4 to 6 a year. I got So Vile a Sin, Lungbarrow, and Dying Days during the pandemic for $125 USD each. I was working a lot of overtime for a medical supply company, and said what the hell. I paid around cover price for the rest I didn't have. I feel the books got more consistent after Blood Heat.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I can only imagine how exciting these must've been to get as they came out, that's awesome!

  • @connorhuested
    @connorhuested 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I remember reading the wilderness year lore when I was a kid even though I had hardly even seen Classic Who lol

  • @dontlookatme3612
    @dontlookatme3612 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beloved, I watched (and commented on) this video before I watched Ghostlight. Now I've seen it and downloaded the PDF for Lungbarrow, I am begging you to go through more of the complicated videos/more of the EU. They are my absolute favourites on this channel, especially anything to do with Classic Who

    • @dontlookatme3612
      @dontlookatme3612 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      (Which may be obvious given I commented two months ago, which was around my fifth watch of this video...)

  • @adamfreddo5703
    @adamfreddo5703 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Makes me think if Russell was referring to Peri in "The Reaping" regarding family turned into Cybermen. Did that happen in the story? It's been a while. The only example I can think of involving a companion's family and Cybermen.

  • @CardboardOracle
    @CardboardOracle 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    More classic series content please 🙏

  • @TheBrotherGrim
    @TheBrotherGrim 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved the VNA's myself, but they're definitely....a lot. I had totally forgotten how horned up they were too 😂 Wow. I never really thought of them as canon, or even close. They were just kinda something to scratch that 7th Doctor itch after he became my favorite, and I ran into the ending of the original series. Big Finish also helped a lot with that. I discovered both around the same time.

  • @SanctumSanctorumVidz
    @SanctumSanctorumVidz 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANK YOU!
    I've long meant to get to reading LUNGBARROW...long, long, long meaning to.
    This makes me want to do it even more... and...not at all. Haha
    I will... one day. But YOU helped fill much of the crucial gaps.
    LOVE your stuff!

  • @PdxToycollective
    @PdxToycollective 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Delta and the Bannerman will always have a special place in my heart. Death's Head's first appearance in Dr. Who Magazine is a Delta cover with the 7 on a motorcycle and the green baby. I think I embarresed Sylvester McCoy when i asked him to sign it at a con 😂

  • @knightoftheorchards
    @knightoftheorchards 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video on something that sounds incredibly esoteric even by expanded universe Sci-fi settings, I don't know what it is about the 90s but Doctor Who, Star Wars and Warhammer 40K expanded universe stuff all had really *weird* periods around that time.
    One thing I wanted to point out was the similarities between this story and the Gormenghast series, I don't know if you've read them? I'm only about halfway through the first book, but the parallels are already blindingly obvious to me. Gormenghast is a series of..... (I guess I'll say fantasy since I don't know what else to call them) books that are focused around a house/castle/mansion called Gormenghast , that exists in some vaguely Victorian setting with elements of medieval society. The house is massive but poorly maintained, and owned by the Groan family who have a whole army of servants of various kinds and status ranks. The house seemingly exists outside of any society or time, with only the feudal village nearby being referenced as existing alongside the house (although the book seems intentionally vague as to whether that means nothing exists outside of the house or the people in the house are just so obsessed with it they can't see beyond it).
    It's a very hard series to summarise for the exact same reason that Lungbarrow is, its extremely dense and fixated on the minutia of interpersonal relationships (the first chapter is literally just a guy walking into a room, having a short conversation with another man then and leaving) but it manages to really engage you in the workings of the house, the hierarchy and the attempts by one member to overturn said hierarchy.
    The whole thing is an extended metaphor about family and class hierarchy, how interpersonal relationships are affected by status, how obsession and paranoia can result from spending too long in the same place, and how people seek to reclaim their own agency within a hierarchy through small acts of rebellion that can spill over into much more serious attempts at political change.
    Just from this video I've identified the following similarities:
    1. The title is the one word name of the house
    2. Many members of the same family live in the house who are all related but distantly to each other
    3. A murder is committed in the house
    4. Reproduction/pregnancy is an important theme
    5. Madness is an important theme
    6. The house is a character within the story (its not literally alive in Gormenghast but the way its described it may as well be)
    7. The house is destroyed at the end of the story (this happens at the end of the third book that I haven't read yet, but its heavily telegraphed even from the beginning of the first book)
    And that's just from reading half the first novel :) The Doctor in Lungbarrow story sounds like a combination of Titus Groan, the heir to Gormenghast and Steerpike, a young man who seeks at first to rise through the hierarchy at Gormenghast and once that is thwarted to destroy the hierarchy altogether. Steerpike plays the role of main villain in the first book, although whether he is actually a villain is up for debate.
    Anyway that's enough rambling, but I'd really recommend the Gormenghast series if you fancy reading something genuinely thought provoking that deals with the themes I've described. It's dense, not an easy read, but has a lot to say about the human condition (its also the only book I've ever read were the foreword just directly spoils the ending of the novel, although that doesn't matter much as the book is very much about the experience not the plot).

  • @haileyshannon7548
    @haileyshannon7548 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The show never really had an actual fixed canon, they made most of it up as they went along.
    Isn't the whole point of the show being called "Doctor Who" is because nobody knows who he really is or (especially now) where he actually comes from.

  • @kilo1012
    @kilo1012 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    YEE JEE TSO

  • @CrusherX1000
    @CrusherX1000 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I care about this topic!!
    The 7th Doctor's later years in the EU (as well as the 8th Doctor novels) is fascinating and I wish more people talked about it
    More EU videos please!

  • @Jeanette271
    @Jeanette271 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Omg so complicated 😢. Thanks for explaining. I’d heard about the looms but not the cousins/ sentient house/ doctor= the other.😊

  • @corwinmorton3411
    @corwinmorton3411 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well you know what I can talk about Doctor Who forever too of all the old episodes cuz I thought they were cool

  • @Jayforeman3047
    @Jayforeman3047 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I reckon R2D is gonna expand on a lot of the grandeur "bigger picture" stuff that was teased towards the end of McCoy's era.

  • @sponge6pack
    @sponge6pack 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    damn, halfway through the video and he's not even talking 'bout lungbarrow

  • @redcurrantart
    @redcurrantart 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was an interesting book. I’m surprised the wiki has nothing in it. I grabbed a copy in the short time it was available prior to the whole Virgin run being pulped.wish I still had it.

  • @glitteranditsconsequences
    @glitteranditsconsequences 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dog I love your videos so much I’ve been super interested in the VNA books for a while and lungbarrow especially and was SO excited to see this upload

  • @Mohammedamine9.
    @Mohammedamine9. 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you do a video about my favorite underrated big finish story arc, the elder gods arc,

  • @AStupidID
    @AStupidID 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really hope this is done as a Novel Adaptation by Big Finish.

  • @walkerineternity2334
    @walkerineternity2334 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't think the fandom is unaware of Lungbarrow. Second hand copies of the first edition sell for hundreds of pounds.

  • @piedpiper814
    @piedpiper814 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    FIRST

    • @ctt5086
      @ctt5086 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Means nothing. You have to be the last.

  • @soledsnak6632
    @soledsnak6632 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "this feels like torchwood" im sold time to go read some books

  • @OzBaxter
    @OzBaxter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh I'm HERE for this! The Wilderness Years is my jam!

  • @corwinmorton3411
    @corwinmorton3411 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The old series was great the new series is so-so

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree

  • @DoctorpooandtheTURDIS
    @DoctorpooandtheTURDIS 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's funny - everybody brings up Lungbarrow, but nobody really delves into it! It's a damn shame, too. The Time Lords are some of the most alien they've ever been, Gallifrey is as nightmarish and macabre as you can expect from the planet that produced Time Lords like Rassilon, the Master, Morbious, and Omega, and it's just- i can't put it into words. It's got to be one of my favorite novels. So good.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like your name😂

  • @1owdvl378
    @1owdvl378 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    i am the third person who likes this video

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      hall of fame🫡

  • @tom_4615
    @tom_4615 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Would love a video like this on spare parts… never looked into any eu stuff but I’ve heard spare parts is insanely good

    • @triplejazzmusicisall1883
      @triplejazzmusicisall1883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I would say so. I loved it.

    • @projectjupiter5523
      @projectjupiter5523 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i believe it is still available on spotify for free, alongside many other big finish audio productions - i think if you search up 'spare parts big finish', you should find it. i listened a while back and can also attest to how good it is!

  • @darynvoss7883
    @darynvoss7883 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I found it very difficult and unpleasant to read.

  • @Jayforeman3047
    @Jayforeman3047 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh my god you true hero!! Thank you for this.

  • @jacob4tee
    @jacob4tee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I CARE!!

  • @cloudsombrero
    @cloudsombrero 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    id love for you to cover the eight doctor adventures series

  • @digipeeper
    @digipeeper 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At least Marc Platt is much better writer than the Talented Chris Chibnall. I will take that twisted complex story over the Timeless Child anytime of the day.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Have you read Lungbarrow? It really is a slog to get through. I think I prefer Marc Platt to Chris Chibnall too but it really is no comparison, the Timeless Children is a better story

  • @lancealot1235
    @lancealot1235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    have you been watching gravity falls recently?

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yes

    • @lancealot1235
      @lancealot1235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dwfan91- I could tell lol

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lancealot1235 I've been a fan since it came out- I haven't necessarily been watching recently per se but I will always love the show

    • @lancealot1235
      @lancealot1235 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dwfan91- same

  • @doubleluckydub.7782
    @doubleluckydub.7782 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Make a video about the doctor's brother

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      the master :0

    • @doubleluckydub.7782
      @doubleluckydub.7782 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@dwfan91- Braxiatel

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@doubleluckydub.7782 I feel like Braxiatel is even more of a tough pill to swallow than Lungbarrow for casual audiences😂 maybe that would be a fun topic

    • @doubleluckydub.7782
      @doubleluckydub.7782 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dwfan91- that would be a great video, I'm looking forward

  • @tableprinterdoor
    @tableprinterdoor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Will you ever explain faction paradox?
    I really appreciate this vid since it gave me lungbarrow in a way I can actually understand what is going on

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      faction paradox is probably like the most confusing thing in dr who ever.
      so yh prolly in abit

    • @tableprinterdoor
      @tableprinterdoor 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dwfan91- Cool to hear! The War in Heaven will certainly be interesting to explain

  • @triplejazzmusicisall1883
    @triplejazzmusicisall1883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ouch that almost harmed my capacity to think in any shapes or forms, but it was intriguing and fascinating and BONKERS! How you managed to bring some semblance of explaining a narrative from all that is astounding. Did you have to do a 10-year degree at the University of Lungbarrow? This makes the most complex and convoluted of Agatha Christie's Poirot explanations for a murder look like child's play. Whilst I could ask you dozens of questions, I think I will simply stick with one that I feel I did not really get an idea from the video. Did you enjoy the book?

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you for the comment- it was quite the journey. To answer your question: I think so..? I don't really know. As I mention its rather dense and you need a lot of background knowledge on the other books to really get whats going on. It has some very interesting and funny parts though so if you see it going for a reasonable price I would recommend you pick it up :)

    • @triplejazzmusicisall1883
      @triplejazzmusicisall1883 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you. I checked it on eBay and the prices were horrendous. I even saw it on the thousands. Catch you on another one of your awesome videos. Cheers.@@dwfan91-

  • @seanhegarty7447
    @seanhegarty7447 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    imma need that main range video rn mr dwfan91

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yessir🫡

  • @akshaytrayner1960
    @akshaytrayner1960 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great vid you have to do the 8th doctor memory loss trilogy

  • @idle_speculation
    @idle_speculation 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    20:19 wasn’t Ace 16?

  • @lukethomas216
    @lukethomas216 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently paid £165 for a copy of Lungbarrow. Crazy, really, but it shows how collectable it is some of us Wilderness Era Who fans. Great vid 😁

  • @DonHbankz
    @DonHbankz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I actually really like the lungbarrow stuff for years and if I ever become showrunner lord knows I will be hinting at its canonisation. I get why some don’t like it but for the most part I really love it not the Leela mum part but I do actually like the half human plotline(Don’t attack me 😭😭)

  • @markstramtrainbuscapades1729
    @markstramtrainbuscapades1729 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    JNT didn't sack Colin Baker willingly, he was instructed to do so by Michael Grade.

  • @dontlookatme3612
    @dontlookatme3612 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh this is so interesting! I love your classic who videos and I'm very happy to hear more about the EU

  • @ctt5086
    @ctt5086 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hoping more NuWho fans (not familiar with classic Who) watch this.

  • @DonHbankz
    @DonHbankz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Also can you do the Patience storyline I have read most of the info I know from the WIKI but I have never read the actual stories or know where and how to read it

  • @brobs0463
    @brobs0463 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Damn. I love over complicated obscure vaguely non cannon extended universe doctor who media

  • @xylerianproductions7245
    @xylerianproductions7245 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But when do we get the history of doctor who’s name (mainly how tf they made a season arch based on a mystery answered 30 years earlier)

  • @krisztianunpronounceable
    @krisztianunpronounceable 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    0:47 You just won yourself a new subscriber after this statement. Cheers

  • @sycoraxrock
    @sycoraxrock 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    ::mumbles, looks at floor:: i dunno man delta and the bannermen rules and you’re just like wrong or somethin’… ::shuffles off::

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      paradise towers rools delta and the bannermen drools😎

  • @paniniboy
    @paniniboy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If we ever have a finale to doctor who and adaptation of lungbarrow would be really good. A really weird strange story would really suit dr who as a crazy ending.

  • @Pat12379
    @Pat12379 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is the moive even canon anymore because in that the master ran out of regulations wne was trapee in the twreie ane th3 doctor wws half human wnd all that isn't a thing in the new series somehow the master ended up wt the end of the universe

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the master ran out of regenerations ages before, he was on his 13th life by his first appearance, in the episode 'the Deadly Assassin' (the episode the 13 life rule was introduced) he survived after death, effectively breaking the same rule that was established in that episode. Years later he stole the body of Tremas before being executed, and surviving AGAIN. And then, after the Movie he was resurrected to fight in the Time War but he ran away again

    • @Pat12379
      @Pat12379 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dwfan91- ok

    • @idle_speculation
      @idle_speculation 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The movie is canon and so are the 8th Doctor Big Finish audios.

  • @crasor5780
    @crasor5780 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love this. I wish more people did Doctor Who book content.

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the Agatha Christie feel to Lungbarrow

  • @colinsavage5744
    @colinsavage5744 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Love the eu content

  • @MegaAlchemist123
    @MegaAlchemist123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for doing expended media Content. Can we expect more of that?

  • @DaveTh3Ninja
    @DaveTh3Ninja 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi. One of the 3. Whats up?

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      What's up friend

  • @rippleeffect3595
    @rippleeffect3595 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    my first video of yours awesome job buddy

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you!

  • @thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527
    @thethinkingcatakaneonormie3527 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lungbarrow is my head Cannon the timeless child is omega or Rassillon the Doctor isn't immortal as it would defeat the logic of the story

    • @spacepenguins8939
      @spacepenguins8939 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The doctor isn’t immortal though, they still have the set 13 lives which is why 11 was dying in time of the doctor.
      He needed those new regens because he didn’t have any more

  • @Synthpopper
    @Synthpopper 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    3:24 I recognise that background music but can't place from where

    • @rebeccahill6187
      @rebeccahill6187 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think it's the clothes shop theme from Pokemon X&Y?

  • @timeenbyvictorious
    @timeenbyvictorious 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I added the plot on the wiki 👍

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      WE DID IT, WE SAVED DR WHO!!

    • @timeenbyvictorious
      @timeenbyvictorious 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dwfan91- WAHEY

    • @timeenbyvictorious
      @timeenbyvictorious 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@dwfan91- i’ll add it in more detail after finishing the video

    • @timeenbyvictorious
      @timeenbyvictorious 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      nevermind im gonna be so real the story is interesting but i am NOT writing that out

    • @TheBrotherGrim
      @TheBrotherGrim 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ha. That's completely understandable, dude. I love the book, but it's wayyy out there and definitely a lot.

  • @laurenkaitlyn6341
    @laurenkaitlyn6341 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ghost Light is the Silent Hill of Doctor Who

  • @peteraaron2047
    @peteraaron2047 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS FINALLY MATE FINALLY SOMEONE TALKING ABOUT THE EU

  • @JoshPinder92
    @JoshPinder92 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Keep going until my lung burrows 👹

  • @OzBaxter
    @OzBaxter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    02:22 I'm the one with the bowler hat

  • @corwinmorton3411
    @corwinmorton3411 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But I really don't get the new series at all

  • @chronovore3726
    @chronovore3726 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The New and Missing Adventure series of books are mostly great and sadly forgotten. While the Doctor in the TV movie being half-human was dumb, and not all of the books were good; it's all better than the garbage we've been seeing in the modern televised show...

  • @RobTFilms
    @RobTFilms 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    good vid 10/10

  • @luciakocisova9925
    @luciakocisova9925 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I BEEN WAITING FOR THIS ONE

  • @frightening_volleyball1231
    @frightening_volleyball1231 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Now about the shortage of housing

  • @emilyaltman4318
    @emilyaltman4318 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This video is great, hope you're having a great day

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      you too!

  • @spooncerbooncer
    @spooncerbooncer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hell yeah! Awesome video! Think you can do an explanation/timeline of events for Timelord Victorious??

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Would Timelord Victorious be an interesting video topic you think?

    • @spooncerbooncer
      @spooncerbooncer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dwfan91- I think so, lots of people find it pretty interesting

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@spooncerbooncer You're right, okay I'll keep it in mind :)

    • @Alanwake-qr7he
      @Alanwake-qr7he 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dwfan91-oh that would be interesting

  • @paniniboy
    @paniniboy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video!

  • @endme1654
    @endme1654 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    need a eda book video

  • @andrealiee
    @andrealiee 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    knowing the full story, i still have no clue how people think the timeless child arc is worse than LEELA BEING THE DOCTORS MOTHER

    • @f-zilla7347
      @f-zilla7347 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How is the Doctor’s life becoming a time loop worse?

  • @Ericiswaiting
    @Ericiswaiting 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    LETSS GOOOOO

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ERIC

  • @macloonan23
    @macloonan23 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think Lungbarrow is more camon than anything Chibnall did to fuck everything up, mainly because it is much better written. I don't care what Chibnall/Jodie stans think either, they aren't fans of proper Doctor Who.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      is it tho?

    • @ForTheLoveOfWho
      @ForTheLoveOfWho 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Having read Lungbarrow and being someone who enjoys every era of the show, I respectfully disagree. Officially produced and officially licenced, Doctor Who is Doctor Who, and all fans of it deserve respect.

  • @AlexArtsHere
    @AlexArtsHere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yeah, sounds like this sucks as much as The Timeless Children, probably more so actually.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      thats what im saying😭

    • @zarrg5611
      @zarrg5611 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I think its a little better if you keep the bare bones and get rid of all the weird extra stuff. The doctor is still just the doctor and was physically born as one, but has some connection to this other, but is not literally the other, it just has that Virgin books silliness attached. The big problem that I have with Timeless child is that some guys half-baked fantheory is now forced into canon.

    • @AlexArtsHere
      @AlexArtsHere 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@zarrg5611 Disagree tbh - the problems with Lungbarrow and TTC are pretty much the same - making the Doctor too special within the mythos of the show that's a product of unknown history in which the Doctor is a passive figure, rather than their actions that we see them take by choice in the story's here and now. Lungbarrow maybe has the saving grace of not taking the true run of Doctors starting from Hartnell and smashing that into smithereens since it positions the Doctor as a reincarnation, but it still seems to be a bloated mess that throws everything at the wall in the name of some manufactured mystery backstory, when I don't think that's really required for the Doctor's character.

    • @dommoore6180
      @dommoore6180 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@AlexArtsHere what I find incredible is how many people freak out over stuff like this or the timeless child for ruining the doctors character,
      But are fine with new who. Like, at all. Not a year into new who and suddenly doctor who is a legendary war hero, the sole survivor of the greatest war of all time and his whole species (if that isn't too important within the shows mythos I don't know what is). Suddenly doctor who is dressing and talking in ways he never would. He snogs and dates a teenage girl younger than his granddaughter. He's framed as a "lonely god". The show and everyone in the show treat him as if he's the simultaneously the scariest most dangerous and also loveliest most impressive guy to have ever lived.
      I could go on. And on. And on.
      It's ridiculous how people are fine with all of that but "oh no, the backstoy changed for like the 5th time". (I do get the dislike for timeless child and lungbarrow, I also think they "ruin" the doctors character far far less than new who as a show itself does, consistently).

    • @zarrg5611
      @zarrg5611 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@dommoore6180 Yes, the Rose arc is silly and unfitting, so are numerous plotlines in the classic show. Other then that your argument seems purely emotional, the Timeless Child is a bad plot point for numerous very clear reasons and not 'badass but also soft something something modern television not the doctor's character' Just look at the difference between Hartnell and Tom Baker, there is as much as character divide as that between Baker and Tennant. My main issue with the time war is that it does kind of put that tired Superman trope onto the doctor, but is is a fairly elegant way of rebooting the show while maintaining continuity, and interesting things were done with it. Furthermore, people focus on the dud of the modern era, but the many plodding illogical stories in Classic Who are conveniently ignored, and sometimes lauded as being the best thing ever (as some lesser new who stories are) Explain to me the clever subtlety in the barely cohesive mess that is Earthshock?

  • @lotsalube
    @lotsalube 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    At 26.15, i had to finally tap out. Sorry, couldn't take anymore.

    • @dwfan91-
      @dwfan91-  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I understand