I was having weird issues with mine. I ended up sending it back and getting an ASRock 870E taichi. Running super good now. Ram is working correctly, and the chip is overclocking fine now.
Oh my god, SO CUTE. KLEO!!!!! Give me all those lucky baby dragons 😡It's been awhile you are away and it's good to see you back. Without saying, thank you for the in-depth review, as always. I am waiting for your ASRock X870E Nova review.
hahah Hi Nox, welcome back. The dragons are not going anywhere.😁 About the X870E Nova, it will be soon. there will be more content coming up on the following days. Sorry to keep you waiting.
Thank you very much for making this video. I have this MB and I appreciate a granular look at its bios for my own settings. I have copied most of yours. Subscribed and liked.
Still at beggining at video ..perfect knowing how you Dumb it Down for ppl like me ( building AM5 ..but still im waiting for Lian li 011 rgb evo ,Arctic iii 420mm and cpu 9700x this week ) ...so yea perfect timming (havent build pc since 2015 😊)
Hi Zona, welcome to my channel. I am glad this content did aid you out in some ways. Thank you for y our feedback and I wish you all the very best with your build too.😉
@KleoYan hi Kleo ..just finished watching ..and have question ..at begining of video you said that in included USB stick is very important bcz it have drivers for WFI ...does that mean they arent on official MSI page for download? ..im asking bcz my routine of OS instalation is always to download all latest Drivers manuely on separate USB stick . 1:instaling OS without internet connection 2:instaling all drivers 3: after that i connect on internet and i do windpws update .. ( im i doing it wrong ? )
@ during the installation of windows where it will ask to fill in your pc name or to login or such. There won’t be a generic wifi or ethernet driver. So the thumb drive have those. This is when you don’t have a spare laptop or pc to download and to put it to a usb thumb drive. Of course after your have pass the stage when it boot to windows, the updated drivers will be updated to the latest version. As there will be a prompt from MSI to request you to click ok. Then every drivers (chipset , ethernet, usb host , controllers and such) will be automatically download and install.
Noted. Since I'm only gaming (likely with upcoming 5090), I hope to see a B850 Aorus Master released by Gigabyte (since the B650E A M is already out of stock).
Hi Kleo, great review of MSI x870E Carbon WIFi. My question---- you mentioned there is only one CPU fan header. What if I have a CPU aircooler with two fans? I puchaaed Scythe Mugen 6 Dual black edition. Can I swap out the two fans for the Mugen6 with ARGB fans? I puchased Scythe Wonder Tornado ARGB fans same size as the Scythe Wonder Tornado non RGB fans used on the Scythe Mugen6 DBE.
Hi David Reyes, welcome to my channel. Btw, this is X870E Carbon and not X870 Tomahawk. For most Air Cooler, the dual fans on them are daisy chained, therefore you only need a CPU Fan header. as for the swapp of fans, if they are of standarded 120mm fans and with the same height as in 25mm, it should not be an issue to swap. Unless the Air Cooler you've mentioned uses different size and height of fans of each other. Do pardon me as I can't give you an actual answer as I do not own any Air Coolers which you've mentioned.
@KleoYan do you think this board will be good for 9800x3d and RTX 5090? I am not sure if I can get full 16x PCIe and and if the motherboard bios is ready or do I need to flashback
@VexOoo-x7y this board is carter for 9000 series processor and also for future 5000 series GPU. if you want x16, just don't plug any m.2 to the 2nd slot and any PCIE devices on the 2nd PCIE slot. that will be full x16 speed. last but not least, it will be best to flash to the latest bios which has the AGESA 12.0.0.2.b
@KleoYan thanks for the help. So I will put GPU into the main PCIE 16 Slot. Then I can use my gen 5 SSD into the first 2_1 slot, then I can use my second gen 5 SSD into 2_3 and i will only get gen4 speed is this correct ?
Did you come across any ram compatibility issues with this board? I bought the MSI 870 Tomahawk and it has endless ram issues as evidenced with the massive threads on the MSI forums. I started a return on the MSI 870 Tomahawk and ordered one of these as I don't see any complaints about them. Don't suppose you tried any corsair ram in it?
@@PLAYER2035 hi and welcome to my channel. I have both this and the tomahawk. Had no issues placing dual ram kit which runs at cl28 or cl30 with bus speed of 6000. Most of my rams are of 32G kit though
@thanks for the reply. Were any of them Corsair kits? I have tried 3 different Corsair Hynix A die kits and only one of them can post bios with expo enabled.
if you slot a gen 4 m.2 to the first m.2 slot, it will run at gen 4 and so long you do not populate 2nd m.2 slot and the 2nd PCI-E slot then your 1st PCI-E slot where your GPU sits will be at full x16
Hi User, welcome to my channel. It will fit as the side VRM is not that tall. it's at 35mm and the rear I/O VRM heatsink is at 43mm, there are sufficient space for the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360. Just make sure you plug your 8pin EPS cable to the motherboard first before mounting the LF3 360.
HI CaptainMaf01, welcome to my channel. After having a closer look. the m570 pro forzr m.2 thick heatsink is having a full casting. I would advise you to remove of the 1st m.2 slot bottom piece of metal and the thermal pad. you can try it yourself, just be mindful do not force. It should sit in nicely and gently.
The rubber pads on the base of M2 slots actually serve no function. They are just place holders. When you remove the plastic sticker from the base to expose the thermal pad, the rubber blocks come away as they are attached to the sticker. This is unlike the Asus rubber pads which you add to raise single sided m2 drives up so they contact the bottom of the heatsink
Hi Keith Flanagan, welcome to my channel. I wouldn't say it's of no function. If your m.2 is of single sided chip, only removing the top thermal pad, that will help to support the back and to life up the m.2 to touch the top thermal pad. For double sided chip, it is logical that when you remove both the thermal pad, the rubber pad will be removed too, as both thermal pad will tounch on both side of the m.2.
@@KleoYan That's a very good point. I only have double sided M2's so didn't think about that. Maybe that is why on the MSI forums people are complaining that single sided M2's are not making contact with the heatsink. Perhaps they are removing the plastic from the base of the thermal pad and in doing so removing the rubber block.
@@KleoYan MSI never mentioned it in the manual. They probably should have said to leave the bottom plastic and rubber pad in place when using a single sided M2.
@@flaccus123 I also can't deny the fact that it should be written. Sorry, don't mean to be rude but to me that's logical as why it's design this way. Alot will be a major problem as m.2 is not touching the top thermal pad if they remove the bottom pads. for me I understand how it works.
Your review of this motherboard is late, but I have been waiting patiently. I am right again, you never fail to suprise me with your findings and sharing. I don't get to find those key points you've pointed out from other reviewers. Thank you Kleo and I truely enjoyed your honest opinion. Another excellent review. 👍
Hi Banana Beach, welcome to my channel. Both boards as tested, they both does their job but I would pic the ProArt over this as it has a function where by you plug your discrete GPU DP port to the DP in of the motherboard, which allows to project via the type-c dp port. If you are to use m.2 Gen 5, ProArt will have an advantage, whereby you can use top PCI-E slot with the m.2 Gen 5 plug to Slot 1 and 2 without compromises. as for the rest like USB 4.0 and such.. both are as good.
Correction: The IO pins for the front panel are labeled on each connector. You need to slide the IO pin housing along the cable for the labels to show on each of the pin connectors.
HI Antonio Muscolino, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your info, will highlight this to MSI and hope they will improve on their application. Thanks again for the feedback.
MSI has issue with M.2_1 slot near cpu ? i was have that board and heatsink doesn't touch M.2 its Rev.2 ? board moderators and msi HQ know this so.. can you replay with feedback it cools or it has gap ?
I've had the board since 2 weeks after launch and no issues with coolling on my M.2_1. Now I didn't check if the heatsink was touching, however my T705 (which is for OS and Apps) idles in the 30's on fresh boot and under normal usage stays in low 40's. I only once saw it hit 70 during Crystal benchmark. So I guess not every board has the heatsink issue.
@@flaccus123 If your T705 crucial IS double sided M.2 doesn't have issue im talking about single sided M.2's i have 2 boards X870E msi and there was a problem on forum different regions it has same issues..
Hi Time less, welcome to my channel. I have no issues with it. Am using the Firecuda 530 1TB (Single sided) and it does touch the top m.2 heastink thermal pad. which M.2 are you using? lets see if I can test it out.
@@timeless9927 hmm. I dont have this issue, maybe it's just right thickness of thermal pad for my m.2. both Single sided (1TB Firecuda 530) and double sided (2TB Firecuda 520) does touch the thermal pads. As mentioned, which m.2 are you using?
Solid and informative, mate.
Hi Tim Fletcher, welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback. All the very best with your build too! 😉
I was having weird issues with mine. I ended up sending it back and getting an ASRock 870E taichi. Running super good now. Ram is working correctly, and the chip is overclocking fine now.
Hi S7R4, welcome to my channel. So sorry to hear that and thank you for your feedback. 👍👍👍
Oh my god, SO CUTE. KLEO!!!!! Give me all those lucky baby dragons 😡It's been awhile you are away and it's good to see you back. Without saying, thank you for the in-depth review, as always. I am waiting for your ASRock X870E Nova review.
hahah Hi Nox, welcome back. The dragons are not going anywhere.😁 About the X870E Nova, it will be soon. there will be more content coming up on the following days. Sorry to keep you waiting.
Nice video as usual. Very detail and clear. Really like the new BIOS UI design, so clean. Now awaiting the TOMAHAWK review......I hope! :)
Hi Melvin Ooi, welcome back and as for the Tomahawk. it's in progress.. will upload soon. thank you for waiting. 😉
Thank you very much for making this video. I have this MB and I appreciate a granular look at its bios for my own settings. I have copied most of yours. Subscribed and liked.
Hi NEO DON, welcome to my channel. I am glad you do like this content, thank you for your kind words and to have subscribed to my channel.
Still at beggining at video ..perfect knowing how you Dumb it Down for ppl like me ( building AM5 ..but still im waiting for Lian li 011 rgb evo ,Arctic iii 420mm and cpu 9700x this week ) ...so yea perfect timming (havent build pc since 2015 😊)
Hi Zona, welcome to my channel. I am glad this content did aid you out in some ways. Thank you for y our feedback and I wish you all the very best with your build too.😉
@KleoYan hi Kleo ..just finished watching ..and have question ..at begining of video you said that in included USB stick is very important bcz it have drivers for WFI ...does that mean they arent on official MSI page for download? ..im asking bcz my routine of OS instalation is always to download all latest Drivers manuely on separate USB stick .
1:instaling OS without internet connection
2:instaling all drivers
3: after that i connect on internet and i do windpws update ..
( im i doing it wrong ? )
@ during the installation of windows where it will ask to fill in your pc name or to login or such. There won’t be a generic wifi or ethernet driver. So the thumb drive have those. This is when you don’t have a spare laptop or pc to download and to put it to a usb thumb drive.
Of course after your have pass the stage when it boot to windows, the updated drivers will be updated to the latest version. As there will be a prompt from MSI to request you to click ok. Then every drivers (chipset , ethernet, usb host , controllers and such) will be automatically download and install.
Noted. Since I'm only gaming (likely with upcoming 5090), I hope to see a B850 Aorus Master released by Gigabyte (since the B650E A M is already out of stock).
Hi R6ex, welcome to my channel. Thank you for sharing your thoughts. All the very best with your build too. 😉
Hi Kleo, great review of MSI x870E Carbon WIFi. My question---- you mentioned there is only one CPU fan header. What if I have a CPU aircooler with two fans? I puchaaed Scythe Mugen 6 Dual black edition. Can I swap out the two fans for the Mugen6 with ARGB fans? I puchased Scythe Wonder Tornado ARGB fans same size as the Scythe Wonder Tornado non RGB fans used on the Scythe Mugen6 DBE.
Hi David Reyes, welcome to my channel. Btw, this is X870E Carbon and not X870 Tomahawk. For most Air Cooler, the dual fans on them are daisy chained, therefore you only need a CPU Fan header. as for the swapp of fans, if they are of standarded 120mm fans and with the same height as in 25mm, it should not be an issue to swap. Unless the Air Cooler you've mentioned uses different size and height of fans of each other. Do pardon me as I can't give you an actual answer as I do not own any Air Coolers which you've mentioned.
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Hello 56uxT56b, welcome to my channel and thank you for the thumbs up. 😉
Do you have a guide on how to install ssd and ram and cpu ? Like showing us on this board
@VexOoo-x7y hi and welcome to my channel. I sorry, I have returned this board therefore unable to show you the installation.
@KleoYan do you think this board will be good for 9800x3d and RTX 5090? I am not sure if I can get full 16x PCIe and and if the motherboard bios is ready or do I need to flashback
@VexOoo-x7y this board is carter for 9000 series processor and also for future 5000 series GPU. if you want x16, just don't plug any m.2 to the 2nd slot and any PCIE devices on the 2nd PCIE slot. that will be full x16 speed. last but not least, it will be best to flash to the latest bios which has the AGESA 12.0.0.2.b
@KleoYan thanks for the help. So I will put GPU into the main PCIE 16 Slot. Then I can use my gen 5 SSD into the first 2_1 slot, then I can use my second gen 5 SSD into 2_3 and i will only get gen4 speed is this correct ?
@ yup that’s correct.
Awesome video bro
@@itz_tipzy5949 Hi and welcome to my channel and thank you for your feedback too 👍
Can u tell what would u prefer between the MSI x870e Carbon vs Asrock x870e Nova? :-)
Hi Ben R, welcome to my channel. in my honest opinion, I will grab the ASRock X870E Nova, 1) price point 2) Lane are not shared)
Did you come across any ram compatibility issues with this board? I bought the MSI 870 Tomahawk and it has endless ram issues as evidenced with the massive threads on the MSI forums. I started a return on the MSI 870 Tomahawk and ordered one of these as I don't see any complaints about them. Don't suppose you tried any corsair ram in it?
@@PLAYER2035 hi and welcome to my channel. I have both this and the tomahawk. Had no issues placing dual ram kit which runs at cl28 or cl30 with bus speed of 6000. Most of my rams are of 32G kit though
@thanks for the reply. Were any of them Corsair kits? I have tried 3 different Corsair Hynix A die kits and only one of them can post bios with expo enabled.
@ yup I have one which is non argb. Corsair vengeance and it’s tested with expo profile 1 enabled.
if i use a pcie 4 m.2 in the pcie 5 m.2 slot does it still limit the pcie 16 slot?
if you slot a gen 4 m.2 to the first m.2 slot, it will run at gen 4 and so long you do not populate 2nd m.2 slot and the 2nd PCI-E slot then your 1st PCI-E slot where your GPU sits will be at full x16
Is it possible to turn off the power and reset button once the PC is turned off?
@@Magnus_Aud hi and welcome to my channel. Yes you can watch timestamp 36:53
I want to buy this motherboard and the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360. Does the Arctic fit in the top of the Montech King 95 Pro with the MSI board?
Hi User, welcome to my channel. It will fit as the side VRM is not that tall. it's at 35mm and the rear I/O VRM heatsink is at 43mm, there are sufficient space for the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360. Just make sure you plug your 8pin EPS cable to the motherboard first before mounting the LF3 360.
Thank You For making this video sir can u tell me How can i install msi m570 pro frozr? should i remove the thermal pad from main m2 slot?
HI CaptainMaf01, welcome to my channel. After having a closer look. the m570 pro forzr m.2 thick heatsink is having a full casting. I would advise you to remove of the 1st m.2 slot bottom piece of metal and the thermal pad. you can try it yourself, just be mindful do not force. It should sit in nicely and gently.
The rubber pads on the base of M2 slots actually serve no function. They are just place holders. When you remove the plastic sticker from the base to expose the thermal pad, the rubber blocks come away as they are attached to the sticker. This is unlike the Asus rubber pads which you add to raise single sided m2 drives up so they contact the bottom of the heatsink
Hi Keith Flanagan, welcome to my channel. I wouldn't say it's of no function. If your m.2 is of single sided chip, only removing the top thermal pad, that will help to support the back and to life up the m.2 to touch the top thermal pad. For double sided chip, it is logical that when you remove both the thermal pad, the rubber pad will be removed too, as both thermal pad will tounch on both side of the m.2.
@@KleoYan That's a very good point. I only have double sided M2's so didn't think about that. Maybe that is why on the MSI forums people are complaining that single sided M2's are not making contact with the heatsink. Perhaps they are removing the plastic from the base of the thermal pad and in doing so removing the rubber block.
@ in every aspect on how a mechanism works or design, there is always a reason. Infact I did mention about it in this content.
@@KleoYan MSI never mentioned it in the manual. They probably should have said to leave the bottom plastic and rubber pad in place when using a single sided M2.
@@flaccus123 I also can't deny the fact that it should be written. Sorry, don't mean to be rude but to me that's logical as why it's design this way. Alot will be a major problem as m.2 is not touching the top thermal pad if they remove the bottom pads. for me I understand how it works.
Your review of this motherboard is late, but I have been waiting patiently. I am right again, you never fail to suprise me with your findings and sharing. I don't get to find those key points you've pointed out from other reviewers. Thank you Kleo and I truely enjoyed your honest opinion. Another excellent review. 👍
Hi James dean, welcome back. Do pardon me to let you wait and thank you for your kind words 👍👍👍
x870 proart or x870 carbon which1 is best in your side Kleo? thanks for video
Hi Banana Beach, welcome to my channel. Both boards as tested, they both does their job but I would pic the ProArt over this as it has a function where by you plug your discrete GPU DP port to the DP in of the motherboard, which allows to project via the type-c dp port. If you are to use m.2 Gen 5, ProArt will have an advantage, whereby you can use top PCI-E slot with the m.2 Gen 5 plug to Slot 1 and 2 without compromises. as for the rest like USB 4.0 and such.. both are as good.
Correction: The IO pins for the front panel are labeled on each connector. You need to slide the IO pin housing along the cable for the labels to show on each of the pin connectors.
Hi Leo's World, welcome to my channel. Thank you for sharing but am referring to the MSI cables not the case cable.
@@KleoYan I'm talking about the MSI cable in the Video starting at 5:20 min. Contrary to your comment, all pins are labeled on that connector 🙂
@ oh ok. After taking a closer look. In deed. My bad and thank you for the info.
Thank you...
Hi Jack Daniels, welcome back and thank you for your feedback 👍👍👍
Mystic light is very buggy at the moment
HI Antonio Muscolino, welcome to my channel. Thank you for your info, will highlight this to MSI and hope they will improve on their application. Thanks again for the feedback.
MSI has issue with M.2_1 slot near cpu ? i was have that board and heatsink doesn't touch M.2 its Rev.2 ? board moderators and msi HQ know this so.. can you replay with feedback it cools or it has gap ?
I've had the board since 2 weeks after launch and no issues with coolling on my M.2_1. Now I didn't check if the heatsink was touching, however my T705 (which is for OS and Apps) idles in the 30's on fresh boot and under normal usage stays in low 40's. I only once saw it hit 70 during Crystal benchmark. So I guess not every board has the heatsink issue.
@@flaccus123 If your T705 crucial IS double sided M.2 doesn't have issue im talking about single sided M.2's i have 2 boards X870E msi and there was a problem on forum different regions it has same issues..
@@flaccus123 Hi and welcome to my channel and thank you for sharing your experience. 👍👍👍
Hi Time less, welcome to my channel. I have no issues with it. Am using the Firecuda 530 1TB (Single sided) and it does touch the top m.2 heastink thermal pad. which M.2 are you using? lets see if I can test it out.
@@timeless9927 hmm. I dont have this issue, maybe it's just right thickness of thermal pad for my m.2. both Single sided (1TB Firecuda 530) and double sided (2TB Firecuda 520) does touch the thermal pads. As mentioned, which m.2 are you using?
I bought this motherboard but dint get the lucky dragon
Hi [R-A-U-L], welcome to my channel. The Lucky Dragon is not included. They are not for sales, only for reviewers.