Peer Polities and Patron Gods

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  • Why’s it so common for ancient independent cities to come in clusters? Or: why does the largest city not simply eat the other cities?
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    Tranquility Base by Kevin MacLeod
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    Renfrew, C. and Cherry, J. F. (eds) (1986) Peer polity interaction and socio-political change.
    Hansen, M. H. and Københavns universitet (eds) (2002) A comparative study of six city-state cultures: an investigation conducted by the Copenhagen Polis Centre.
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    Statue of a Victorious Youth, 300-100 B.C., The J. Paul Getty Museum, Villa Collection, Malibu, California
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ความคิดเห็น • 28

  • @ovrair6340
    @ovrair6340 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Honestly this video has helped me so much with my worldbuilding, ive been working on a certain culture for a while, and was thinking it should be kindve like Greece or the holy Roman empire in the multiple city states and all that, and this has given me allot more inspiration for their society and how they all think of the other city states, and how they interact.

  • @turtleforge3065
    @turtleforge3065 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    So this is wht it's called. I've been building a culture where there are different tribes and themes but must have the same ideologies and cultural beliefs but couldn't go around it since I don't hve information on how this system works. I find your videos very helpful, especially in the archeological and anthropological standpoint, something that I'm still really not good at. I'm more well versed in creating myth and folklore for my cultures than societal, cultural and or political matters. I might someday make my own channel about my world. You're doin great Nakari! Keep it up!

  • @ihavenocreativeideasforach5530
    @ihavenocreativeideasforach5530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Are the Elush a polity of their own or are their different groups/cities/city-states of Elush? And if Elush is just one polity among a group of them, how are they viewed/interacted with by their neighbors?

    • @NakariSpeardane
      @NakariSpeardane  3 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      So... I kinda messed up and used Elush to refer to both a single polity, and the whole system of polities that includes that city and shares the same general culture >_> It made sense at first cause I was focusing on a later time, when Elush had basically conquered all the other polities, but as I've gone further back in time, it's made kinda less sense. So one of my videos soon will be explaining that and introducing some of the other cities in the system!

    • @ihavenocreativeideasforach5530
      @ihavenocreativeideasforach5530 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@NakariSpeardane makes sense!! And thanks for the reply💖

  • @uxiono5047
    @uxiono5047 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    thank effin god you turned Renfrew's work into something so much more digestible and simple. There was no way in heck I was going to read all that in such a short period of time while i feel so sick

  • @John_does
    @John_does 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Ooh, interesting seeing how this could work in world-building

  • @MutationIvori
    @MutationIvori 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Looks like I gotta read up on Peer Polities because I realize that I basically made an ideal group of peoples for it. Twice. Or more. Whoops~
    Love your videos, it's so fun to watch, way more than prescriptive or worldbuilding tutorials. Every video is a new unexpected topic and is like listening to a friend talk about something.

    • @NakariSpeardane
      @NakariSpeardane  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you!! An unexpected friendly ramble is totally the vibe I am going for :D

  • @otherperson
    @otherperson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This was extremely interesting both for worldbuilding and also actual world history

  • @penfelyn
    @penfelyn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    i am working on rules of a kinda role-playing worldbuilding game, so the information in this lecture is extremely handy for me
    thank you, Nakari

  • @Dedicatedfollower467
    @Dedicatedfollower467 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh man, this was such a useful video for my dnd setting! I've never really thought very hard about what the city-states are and what shared and differing ideologies they might have, or how technologies and culture might spread between them. Thanks for giving me that inspiration!

  • @Alice-gr1kb
    @Alice-gr1kb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this will be very helpful in tracking the changes in my proto religion during the old culture, as it is in a Mesopotamia-like arrangement politically (disunited cities that sometimes get conquered)

  • @horseenthusiast1250
    @horseenthusiast1250 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That was very illuminating! It helped me understand the political shenaniganery I want to write about in one of my stories (except instead of citystates, the polities are seminomadic clans that meet each other often). Thank you for making this concept easier to understand.

  • @sirpaperweightthethird5840
    @sirpaperweightthethird5840 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video! I really enjoy how you take topics in anthropology (something I know very little about) and apply them to worldbuilding!

  • @lillydevil2486
    @lillydevil2486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God, I could marry your voice!
    It's just so chill to listen to ^.^

  • @mintcarouselchannelabandon5109
    @mintcarouselchannelabandon5109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    this is really cool, and now i have a good base for my own conculture. i feel like this is a good transitional period between the nomadic and imperial eras of said conculture.
    but also: is it common for people to migrate from one peer polity to another, and so on? like, an intra-polity nomadic lifestyle? is that a thing?

  • @catarinabarbosa2247
    @catarinabarbosa2247 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    super cool video! loved the little graphs

  • @junodoesworldbuilding2956
    @junodoesworldbuilding2956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ngl getting v jealous of your archaeology coursework >:p

  • @moletuprogimnazija7648
    @moletuprogimnazija7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I accidentally created polities in my world

  • @eskipotato
    @eskipotato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating.

  • @Ggdivhjkjl
    @Ggdivhjkjl ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Should have stuck with the king.

  • @jjthepikazard212
    @jjthepikazard212 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    interesting

  • @br2485
    @br2485 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Do you happen to know the difference between the peer polity system and the interaction sphere?

  • @abhinavmelathil366
    @abhinavmelathil366 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Do gangs count as polities?

    • @everlyw7892
      @everlyw7892 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It probably depends on wether or not those gangs essentially rule over a certain area and are all part of one larger group. I'm pretty sure the general public would have to be aware of them and swear some loyalty to them/pay tribute (taxes) not the gang. If you worldbuild and make gangs to function like polities, they'd probably count as polities.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If they’re powerful enough yes.
      Arguably the only difference between a gang and the state is legitimacy.