GE2024: Teachers happy to drag private schools to state level over Labour's TAX raid (02July24)
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- Debating the planned massive tax raid by Labour on private schools. Of course a state sector teacher is very happy with the plan - everyone must be equal .. that is, everyone has to as dumb as the state sector, instead of bringing the state up to private school teaching level.
It's not about money, it's about attacking the middle class who push their children in to better schools (and pay for a state school place they don't use) .. the rich like Keir Starmer won't have any problem funding their children in to the top private schools who won't be affected by the Labour tax raid.
Pure vengeful evil from Labour Party, that will only end up severely damaging the UK economy with more state mediocrity.
Recorded from Sky News, Kay Burley At Breakfast, 02 July 2024.
I and my wife educated in state system skimped and sacrificed to send our two daughters to private school, we could have spent it at bingo, holidays, cigarettes and alcohol but we did not, so now labour want to penalise ordinary people making sacrifices to get their children a good education.
why did he identify one isolated school in the far east as a profit making school.... this has nothing to do with those schools....
This tax is completely nonsensical. The parents who send their kids to private school are already paying for state schools. The only effect this will have is to reduce the total amount being spent on educating the next generation. The billionaires won't notice the tax, but the doctors, lawyers, engineers, etc. will.
There are many, many people, who work honest and hard, and get ahead, not far ahead, but ahead. They will be the ones pushed out, they will see all their effort to make the best life for their kids made much harder. And that's assuming the schools survive and keep the quality high, many will not.
@@573lbt 20% VAT on school fees.
More accurately they are removing the charitable status of private schools, this removes the VAT exemption that private schools have had. Don't forget that while state schools have been squeezed hard by austerity and the 14 years of tory non-governance for all, private schools have been free to increase their fees as desired.
There is a lot of scaremongering about this, but many commentators have rightly said that many of the private schools can absorb the loss of the exemption without a resulting mass exodus. State schools have had to absorb huge cuts over the years and the parents of children attending those schools are no less hard working than those parents whose children enjoy private education.
If the economy was better, if national debt wasn't as high and if the tax burden wasn't at its highest in 70 years, then maybe the money to help the majority of children in the uk could be sourced elsewhere, and the tories help create this situation, so rather than blame those looking to improve things for the majority, how about blaming the tories for the self-ingratiating sh*t show they ran for 14 years, the billions wasted, lost to fraud and their own corruption.
@@573lbt "(edit: almost everything)"
Yeah, VAT isn't paid on books, and VAT isn't paid by charities, which qualifying private schools are.
"What's this new private school tax they're proposing?"
The answer to this question is contained in the comment you're replying to.
Didn't that teacher named Bobby act in Indian Matchmaking (series) ?
This will make the divide between rich and poor greater. The parents who pull their kids out of private schools will be better off financially and probably will invest the money they would have spent on school fees.
Is Gary Barlow doing the news now?
I think Public/Private schools should not be exempt from VAT, BUT any money a parent invests in their child’s education (fees or tuition, materials etc), should be tax deductible or rebated so the saving go to the parents. Where a private school has an income below a certain tapered threshold (small special needs schools etc) then they could benefit from a much lower or zero VAT rate.
Welcome to Socialism. You all voted for this
I grew up in an area where the state schools offered a better standard of education than the public school, which was supposedly amongst the top in the country. Public schools do not offer a better education, they simply offer networking opportunities and indoctrination into a mindset.
Discipline that's what they offer .
@@Neil-yh8uu Bollocks. It is a way for rich parents to give their thick kids a fighting chance by connecting them with other rich kids.
@@edbop If private schools don't offer a better education, then why is every side of this debate claiming the opposite? Oh, right, it's because your anecdote isn't the sum total of all knowledge on Earth. Silly me.
"It is a way for rich parents to give their thick kids a fighting chance by connecting them with other rich kids."
Thanks for revealing the real reason you're supporting this measure; you want rich people to hurt because you hate them.
@@phillycheesetake No they aren't, they are arguing that they should not receive tax breaks or be considered charities. Public schools allow thick kids of rich parents to at least come out with a C at GCSE and get a job in the city, that is all. FYI many of the people that went to public school are actually very pleasant.
@@edbop They receive tax breaks because they ARE considered charities. They are considered charities because they ARE charities, and are regulated like charities.
All this measure will do is reduce the percentage of GDP spent on education. You think you're going to get one over on them, just you watch. After this goes in, as parents are priced-out and/or private schools cut services and become less appealing, the total fee take will go down far more than the taxes from the remaining fees will generate.
Less money in education overall, the number and quality of teachers will decrease nationwide. The law of unintended consequences is a harsh master.
Taxing education is abhorrent.
It's not charity, it's a paid service, that's the whole point. They could go to state school tax free.
Why should my taxes be spent to subside some rich person child's education? If you can't afford to send you kids to private school on your own dime than tough luck. There are nurses using foodbanks in this country but I'm some how suppose to feel sorry for people who can't pay £20-50,000 a year on private school tuition? Jog on!!!
Your taxes aren’t tho
@@marklasy6209you could argue that a tax exemption is in a way a subsidy
Having to employ 30 translators that speak 137different languages is costing our schools a fortune it doesn't need more money it needs more people speaking English full stop
Ludicrous title. Dry your eyes and pay your way.
What do you mean by "pay your way"?
Do the parents not pay income tax? Do the private school teachers not pay income tax? Do the taxes of everyone who actually staffs and funds a private school not pay taxes which contribute towards the state school system?
"pay your way", what a joke, they already do. This tax is a completely unjustified raid, done purely out of spite.
Smart kids will be successful regardless of what schools they go to
Sorry but this is not a given. Having experienced the worse type of comprehensive school and seen the wasted talent because of a few disruptive kids and huge impact it had on the rest of the students, the culture and teachers.
That could not be more wrong
Why should rich kids get better education??? Have they worked hard for their parents high income. Surely a system that rewards hard work (as the right wing are so into apparently) is one where people can have the same opportunity to work hard. A system of private schools being better is one that rewards luck not work.
Should rich kids get better food? Better holidays? Better home life? Better extracurriculars?
Why do you seem to think rich parents don't deserve the right to provide for their children? So you work hard all your life, you strive in your education, you get a degree, get a challenging job, climb the ladder, settle down with someone, have children with them...only to be told you don't have the inherent human right to provide for them beyond a certain point?
There is luck in the world, legislating against it will create hell on Earth.
You have not answered my question: have rich kids worked for it?
Also the correlation with work and money is not straightforward as many work long hour very hard and get low pay whereas some business owners get everyone else to work for them and get all the pay
Also just because there is luck in the world does not mean we should not try our best to eliminate the inequalities it causes. I'm not buying into such a defeatist argument.
@@CallumCollie I did answer your question; do rich kids work for their skiing holidays?