What GI Joe *really* needs is a more serious television series on Netflix or HBO, where it maintains much of the tone of the Larry Hama-penned comics. It was still a bit over the top, but not as silly as the cartoon. Cobra Commander was a legitimate threat in the comics. And they tackled serious issues too, such as when Sneak Peek was thought to be dead but was actually in deep cover for years... and when he came home at last, his mother had dementia and didn't know him. And then there was the time a SAW Viper gunned down a BUNCH of long-standing Joe members in cold blood. If someone could bring that to the small screen, complete with the character development from the comics, it would be amazing.
I think of this all the time. It's unfortunate that Hasbro always opts for modernizing their brands and marketing strategies instead of focusing on their own source material.
Cloaked Bandit ,when Soldier of Fortune Inc. Used to air, it reminded me of the G.I. Joe team on missions. Movies or a t.v. show like that would work for the G.I. Joe brand. And no more global, international, joint, operating entity. Keep the pit at Fort Bragg. They're all worried about being to politically correct. For instance the new Rambo is from India. You know Bollywood.LMAO
Jason Martin Blaming SJWs (that's not actual thing) is just stupid. If you think about in comic books Cobra was American domestic terrorist organization born in Springfield, Illinois making them alt right terrorists.
Dan, you forgot to mention that Cobra Industries is also a multi-national business conglomerate working on advancements is space travel, weather control, and bio-engineering... oh and world domination.
Conta da Familia GI Joe was so influential bro :D if they did like a war movie it would nice too :D whatever they do. I hope is not like suicide squad :D
Marcelo's Toy Room So much so, that Brazilian GIJOE manufacturer (Estrela), re-launched their Falcon (Brazilian 1/6 scale GIJOE, fluffy hair kind of) on an anniversary edition last year, so now I own the same Joe my father used to play with as a child, and this is awesome to me. As for the movie, I would prefer if they went for it with their original clothing, only modernized, not those jetblack-scifi-armors they used on the last live-action movies..would like to see how thise flashy outfits would translate into most recent times (thinking of Sgt.Slaughter, Bazooka..etc)
Shipwreck, Wild Bill, Spirit, should make movie debuts and be part of the team. Not just side characters that get killed off quick. I want Some or the Rise of Cobra characters to come back as well
You know, at 2:54 I was imagining a Marvel Hyperion/Gladiator superhero type swooping in to save Duke from Cobra Commander, and Dan mmediately suggests that GI Joe needs superheroes! Great timing Dan!
I just want G I Joe back on the shelves. I don't care about films, but after seeing what Hasbro's done with Star Wars 3 3/4 figures with little to no articulation and cheap plastic maybe it's better for Joe to rest.
Yikes, did Hasbro license the work out to whoever makes dollar store toys?
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kurisu7885 ironically, the dollar general had a semi-exclusive line of gi joes in 2013 and they were arguably the best bang for your buck at the time. I bought so many black and blue cobra troopers, green dukes and shipwrecks for customs.
After suffering through four transformers movies, and two gi joe movies I am ready to bid the entire cinematic idea goodbye. An army of monkeys could have done a better job. The original 80s movie, the comics, even the script in my head seem like freekin Laurence of Arabia in comparison to what we got. Don’t need em, don’t want em. No more movies!
The first one is meh but it was the first film so I let it slide. The second and third Transformers movies are all right. Not great by any means but decent popcorn flicks. The fourth film though... that was a dumpster fire. So bad that between that and Bay saying we would pay to see anything he makes I intentionally boycott the fifth movie. Still haven't seen it and probably won't watch it on Netflix or Hulu either. I will say though what I love about the Transformers movies is it revitalized the toy brand for a time. It was great to get the original 80s toys remade. Then to have a modern take on the line with Classics. And now to have a vastly upgraded variation on the originals with Masterpiece. The last 15 years has been a great time to be a collector.
Koloth yeah, I’m a collector of mp and 3p myself, but I’m not so forgiving on any of these movies, all dumpster fires except maybe tf1. Revitalized the franchise? maybe, maybe not. Cartoons and dream wave have kept it alive for the older fans like me imo.
Revitalized as in brought back into the mainstream. I don't know if you remember but collecting during the 90s and early 2000s wasn't all that great. Beast Wars was a good cartoon but the figures were pretty bad and really difficult to find. Car Robots had good toys but a kind of odd show also difficult to find. Then there was the Armada trilogy. Those shows and the toys were really awful, just the worst kind of junk for kids. Then along came the live action movies and suddenly Transformers exploded. It was everywhere and it was great and you didn't even have to watch the movies to reap the benefits. Of course now the new toys are the flimsiest junk around but at least MP is still good.
Koloth I agree, but alternators is what got me back into collecting.Then i bought that first grey mp starscream all those years back, had to order it from japan, I think Takara would have done the mp line movies or not. Now that my mp line is getting near complete I’m hoping for a gi joe line made with the same quality of the marvel selects figures. Then I can finally rest lol.
"Which Joe *has* to be in the next movie?" Beachhead! I remember my friend and I in Target one day marveling in confusion when the G.I. Joe sequel toys showed up but they pushed the movie back to do a 3D conversion so they just sat there all year round. I'm glad I still have my 25th anniversary figures.
Army Ants has already happened in IDW. I was at Hascon last year and caught a panel with some of the IDW guys. They were very excited to talk about how they'd been given the green light to incorporate a lot more Hasbro properties. They confirmed that those were in fact Army Ants in Scarlett's Strike Force #1.
I think instead of making live action movies they should make animated movies based on the style of Hasbro cartoons from the 80s. Make a Transformers, G I Joe, M.A.S.K, and Visionaries movie. It would be awesome to see the classic 80s cartoons in one big movie.
NO NO NO NO do not do another Joe movie for the love of GOD. A total reboot in the form of a serious TV series is the only way to revive it. I don't want to see them mixing with Transformers either, that's guaranteed to be stupid.
Oh man! I don’t know if I can handle another toy property lol! I would like to see joes come back though. I still have my original figures from the 90s
Army Ants was actually in the IDW Comics Scarlet Strike Force but that was since canceled apparently, I loved those little critters when I was younger so I was so happy to see them and immediately recognized the ants and actually forgot for a second they were Hasbro's property.
I'll be 50 this summer. I collect the 12" Adventure Team GI Joes. There is a renaissance at Cotswold Collectibles for my age group that is very creative and lively. Their Elite Brigade has a wonderful "70's vibe" to add to the original vintage Adventure Team line of GI Joe from the 1970's. And they are by no means the only company catering to the Sixth Scale crowd of yesteryear.
this is so crazy! i had no idea there was one GI joe movie, let alone two! , i guess i was just too busy being cool, going to bars, getting drunk, doing cool stuff. ill have to look into this
It's only a matter of time before cereal companies figure out that their mascots are marketable cinematic characters. Who doesn't want to see the seafaring adventures of Cap'n Crunch, or Lucky's desperate run to hold onto his Lucky Charms? And the Dark Universe won't hold a candle to the Chocula Universe!
All the JOE'S are COOL! But as a kid, I especially liked LOWLIGHT, and DESTRO! G.I. JOE was admittedly a part of why I joined the UNITED STATES NAVY! I wanted to be a, "REAL AMERICAN HERO!" . I've been out of the military for years now. But it's kinda COOL that I can say, I WAS A REALIFE, G.I. JOE! YO! JOE!🇺🇸
You're totally right. Have the NEST team in Transformers develop an even more covert team, the Joe's, and BOOM, GI JOE! And the MASK team can divide from them. Easy.
Great video as always. My 2 cents: Cent 1- The most popular age of GIJoe was from the 80's what with the Cartoon and 3 3/4" figures. The line was called GI Joe, A Real AMERICAN hero. True story, here in Canada when I was a kid the series was still called ARAH, but all the sticker sheets had Canadian Flags on them. Sure, us Canadians are like your cooler (temp and temperament) cousin to the North, so the emphasis on the American aspect was never an issue, but outside of North America it certainly was not as beloved in other areas. Cent 2 - GI Joe has attempted multiple re-boots with little to no support from the the 3 3/4 base collectors. For example Sigma 6 was a slam dunk but panned from the start by the base for not being what they were used to. The sad thing is that only after the line died a painful death did the brilliance of the figures become apparent.
GIJoe were one of the most popular boy's toys in Greece during the late 80's and the early 90's, despite the fact that they were somewhat expensive (probably because unlike other toylines that were manufactured under licence by greek toy companies, they were imported). Strangely we had the comic, before the toyline (I think it appeared about 1986-7) and because the name GIJOE meant nothing to anybody (and generally back then they tended to transliterate/translate foreing titles) they named it something than more or less means Strike Force in english.
Dean Jones, That's a difference franchise mate (one that's older than GI Joe). GI Joe waas called "Action Force: International Heroes" over here, they basically switched it from US Special Forces to a NATO Strike Team.
I'm surprised they haven't put out a collector's 6 inch line like the Star wars black series. Classic characters with better sculpts, weapons with holsters in a larger size for better display options.
Great commentary! With respect to the two Joe movies thus far, I was left with the impression of their (the filmmakers) trying to reinvent the wheel. Imo, the best way to reboot the series is go back to basics. Start with the original 13 Joes from the 80s and keep them ICONIC looking. As in have them in updated versions of their original uniforms, but still recognizable (like the Sideshow figures). Same with the vehicles; I think fans would go nuts to see the original vehicles on screen. Lastly, story-wise, they need look no further than the 80s comics for ideas. Those were great stories, and all the better in having been written by a war vet.
I don't want a shared universe of gi joe and transformers. I love both franchises, but they are nothing alike. Crossovers work best when the 2 franchises or characters have similarities.
Fun fact that I'm 100% sure is unintentional. You released this on ANZAC day, which is a public holiday down here in Australia and New Zealand where we celebrate and remember our troops and veterans. Seems oddly appropriate.
Toy Galaxy I was about to say "the GIJOE reboot movie is slated for March 2020 brother!" because most of this video u kinda suggested that u don't know what's happening with words like "stuck on the sidelines" & "red tape" but right near the end you came through stating the movie date. 😃Toys are speculated to be back on shelves then. Hopefully with a 6 inch Legends/Black Series line finally! 😉 I can see it now, GIJOE LEGENDS ..or GIJOE THE BLACK SERIES. Cool video I always like listening to your toy antics lol
I wonder if the reason could be that G.I. Joe never aired in many countries, and was named "Action Force" in many others ... there is simply less brand recognition than for brands like Transformers, which sold internationally. The only reason I know G.I. Joe was because we had an international cable package that included English-language channels that aired it. The toys were available under the "Action Force" name for about one year at the few Toys 'R Us stores here in Germany, without TV ads. At least in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, G.I. Joe is simply too obscure to be able to bank on nostalgia.
Yeah. GIJoe was awesome. But unlike its 80s contemporaries, GIJoe was driven by good old fashion flag waving American patriotism. We now live in a darker political climate. The colors of 'Old Glory' just don't shine as bright as they use to. Just look at Captain America's latest suit.
You mean the one in Infinity War? Yeah, he's basically Nomad now. A man without a country. Maybe that's what G.I. Joe needs to do to come back; embody what is good in America and remind people of that. Captain America is the same thing.
My thoughts exactly. And yes, I did mean Cap's infinity war costume. The stars and stripes always stood for the ultimate ideals and the ultimate good guys. And now the greatest Amercan patriot in comic book history dresses like he's ashamed of his flag. That's not right.
I disagree. GI Joe on its surface was about flag-waving, perhaps, and the cartoon fell into that a lot, but the comic especially tried to be a bit more complex than that. In the first issue their job is to rescue a pacifist who was in the middle of whistle-blowing an AMERICAN doomsday project when she is kidnapped by Cobra to disclose nuclear secrets. One of the Joes even brings up their concerns about rescuing a "traitor", leading to Hawk reminding the team that they are the good guys, which means they defend the Constitution and the right of civilians to free speech. Burkhart even makes one of the more moving choices in the comic - when Cobra Commander has her held at gunpoint and is bargaining for her life, she shoves herself at him, taking the bullet, because she doesn't want any of the Joes to have to be harmed because of her choices. There's other issues where the Joes leave a shady CIA agent out to dry in Afghanistan to answer for his deeds, where they manage to cooperate with a Soviet team (during the Cold War) for a result that met both their needs and stopped the true danger in Cobra, and where the plight of veterans returning home and not necessarily being helped by the government is discussed. The country is at its best when we look at it not as a flag to be waved blindly, but as a whole comprised of good and bad.
Love your reply. And you're right about the comics having deeper, grittier story lines. Especially "GI Joes - Special Missions" But I disagree. I think GI Joe was more about the optics, not necessarily the reality. The Joe's symbolized the best of America's fighting men. The team was strong because America's ideals were the strongest. Truth, justice, freedom. And the Joe's were the 1st and last line of defense against those who opposed those values. For example: Hasbro originally created the GI Joe toy line to represent all the uniformed American armed forces. If you were in the military. If you wore uniform. You were a GI Joe. But Vietnam changed all that. Because for the 1st time the American military was no longer seen as the "good guys". Bad optics equaled poor toy sales. So Hasbro revamped GI Joe into a smaller team. It became an elite group of specially trained military men. They wore military attire but not authentic uniforms. And their allegiance was to America's values and not politics. But now America's values are in question. And a lot of people in the world are starting to fear us. And not just the "bad guys". In this day and age, a secret American strikeforce of elite commandos, and ninjas might make people feel more unsettled then secure. Especially when the country's leader seems to have Cobra Commander traits. It's all about the optics and toy sales. GI Joe needs a clean flag like Transformers need alt modes.
We all do. It was the only iteration of GI Joe that didn't feel like I was watching a Village People video. Renegade actually worked and painted the concept of GI Joe as both plausible and enjoyable.
I wish they'd bring back the toys. I personally collect full size Joe's in the box, but with no new Joe's on the market, finding them at second hand shops, garage sales and eBay is getting reeeeaaallly hard...
Great video as always, Dan. I miss GIJOE and look forward to the movie reboot. I'm still holding onto hope that Hasbro will test the 6" Black Series for GIJOE with a wave of Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, and Cobra Commander to start off. I think it would be another goldmine for the company.
Here’s my pitch: Netflix GIJoe series, set in the early to mid 80s ala Stranger Things, with all the original characters faithfully portrayed as written by Hama. And faithful screen recreations of the 80s vehicles and bases.
With Bumblebee being essentially a soft reboot of the Transformers cinematic universe, now would be a prime time for a GIJoe reboot to tie in with Transformers on the big screen. Imagine if after the credits, John Cena was approached by General Hawk to join a top secret multinational fighting force, codename GIJoe...
They need to start at the beginning,when Snake Eyes,Storm Shadow and Stalker served together in the military.From there they can lead into the Snake Eyes /Storm Shadow saga.
04:48 The Transformers animated series had an episode (The Transformers, _Only Human_ S3, Ep23 ) in which they mention that G.I. JOE and COBRA existed in the past. A movie that links them together wouldn't be far-fetched. MASK and COPS also are in the same universe, so a cross-over with any of those Hasbro properties would still work.
Most Likely Joes in a reboot: Duke, Scarlett, Roadblock, Snake Eyes, Doc/Lifeline (Take your pic), and Gung-Ho. Who I want in a Joe Reboot/Sequel: Snake Eyes, Roadblock, Alpine, Bazooka, Beach-Head, Law+Order, Cross Country and Shipwreck.
I got Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow and Firefly in the last movie. I really need me some Beachhead in the next movie to round out my favorite masked Joes/Cobras.
If they made a new reboot movie, I'd like to see Lt. Falcon return, as someone who is a cocky young US Army Officer, who BOUGHT his commission (through bribery or some looked down means) but is still pretty intelligent, but eventually learns what it really means to be a soldier, and eventually a GI Joe. Also, Really need a on screen appearance of Low Light.
You could do what I have theorized and say that MASK is actually a clandestine branch of GI JOE, as VENOM is a secret branch of COBRA. In regards to a GI JOE/Transformers crossover, that's been done before in the Transformers comics. Also, the original 1984 animated Cobra Commander made a cameo in the G1 Transformers animated series. Season 4, Episode 88 - "Only Human".
I do not like what I am hearing out of Hasbro, that they are going to design all new characters for this new film. So no more Snake Eyes, Duke, Scarlet, Storm Shadow, Cobra Commander, Destro and the Baroness! :(
I think the best way to connect G. I. Joe to the Transformers movies is to have the third Joe movie recruit Josh Duhamel (I probably spelled that wrong) and Tyrese’s characters from the Transformers movies into G. I. Joe and have them become Duke and Heavy Duty (probably Roadblock though)
I actually enjoyed the 2nd GI Joe movie. I know it wasn’t a *good* movie, but i thoroughly enjoyed it. Hasbro needs to get on 6” Joes already. My wallet is ready.
@Mike Kaess I also thoroughly enjoyed Retaliation and it was just shy of 1 million times better than that abortion of a first movie. The action was much stronger and harder, better plot, better cast, better acting and plenty of nods and homages to classic ARAH comics. As far as the figures go, while all I really want is for Hasbro to relaunch the 25th anniversary / "vintage" 3.75 line (just like they are now doing with Stat Wars), I would pay well more than $20 a pop for 6in Joe's done the right way with tons of guns/accessories and in a vintage artwork style window box with file card on the back. Having said that, I'd also like to see Mezco take the line as their current 1:12 Collective figs are practically perfection. Hasbro 6in figures would obviously be more affordable but Mezco would be the only way we could truly get all the accessories and finer details like an actual metal head sculpt for Destro, etc. Unless I'm mistaken (and I could be), 2017 was the first year where there was not a single Hasbro Joe figure on the shelves at retail since 1982...being a Joe fan and Joe collector is nothing short of soul crushing at this point. Also, as far as the whole "shared universe" thing where Snake Eyes and My Little Pony team up to defeat a giant Furbytron...NO THANK YOU
They didn't totally fail with the second movie, it did have it's good points. They announced a third movie at one point, and it was listed Dwayne Johnson's IMDB page. It's probably on hold until he has an opening in his non-stop schedule.
Yep after the 25th line it seems like collectors already have all of the best characters and sadly kids just aren't into the 4" figures any more. 6" somewhere between Star Wars Black and the Marvel Legends line would give collectors a new start point and a scale where kids can play with figures from different lines.
Did you guys "borrow" the soundtrack for this vid from the Diablo 2 Rogue camp music? Got some heavy "stay a while and listen" vibes from it. Anyhoo, I'm a Torpedo mark, would love to see a movie include an extended underwater sequence with Torpedo, Deep Six, the SHARK, and some Cobra Eels or something.
I was looking forward to the Hasbro Cinematic Universe, but now it seems that after the Bumblebee solo movie, the Transformers Movieverse is coming to an end. So it makes the prequel movie (Bumblebee) seem kind of useless, and if they bring Transformers back we have to go though yet another building of that universe. And I guess the same would be true for G.I.Joe, and it is sad cause I thought Dwayne Johnson was prefect as Roadblock. Plus to add to all of this, after this summer, the IDW comic universe is also gonna be rebooted, which means all that history and crossovers will be erased. So the thought of waiting till 2020 for a possible G.I.Joe movie and a very vague chance of a shared universe is not only frustrating, but also kind of annoying. Sorry for the rant, your video gave gave me a lot of fuel for thought. :) Anyways I guess if there is a chance for a G.I.Joe movie I would love to see Shipwreck in it, and for the Cobras perhaps the Crimson Twins.
they better have Chuckles, Big Boa, Sci-fi, and all of Battle Force 2000 for it to be the best damn GI Joe movie ever. Oh, and throw in the Eco-warriors.
Some resin when you mentioned war is good part, a Ferengi from the Star Trek Universe popped in to mind. But since the question has been asked. Where is G.I. JOE? Both first and 2nd movies was pretty good, some of the toy's as cool as well.
The Crimson Twins need to be in the next one. Id love to see Hasbro do a marvel type strategy and build to the cobra civil war story line from the old marvel comic run.
Pretty amazing to see the success now, just a few short years later. G.I.Joe is on fire! Please let me know if you'd like to talk about Operation: Recall! The 1980s and 1990s creative team is back together to create all-new modern o-ring action figures! (One of my backers said I should reach out, and I heed backer's advice!)
It was not a good decision but it was the scenario. Yet they really should reboot and do other movies. Looking more like G.I.Joe, like you know, the character having their actual appearance... Not Zartan looking like an ordinary guy (when he is not the president), Destro looking like and ordinary guy and Baroness being a good girl (that is not about appearance but it spoiled the movie for me).
DESTRO (classic) needs to be in the next one, and not with bad CGI this time! I agree, Retaliation was a vast improvement over Rise of Cobra. It would be cool to see Roadblock (Johnson) get down and dirty in a big fight at the end with Destro (recast with a more muscular and menacing actor).
Forget all the rest of the other Hasbro franchises - bring back the Inhumanoids! Giant monsters are where it is at, especially if D'Compose is working with Cobra and the Decepticons.
What GI Joe *really* needs is a more serious television series on Netflix or HBO, where it maintains much of the tone of the Larry Hama-penned comics. It was still a bit over the top, but not as silly as the cartoon. Cobra Commander was a legitimate threat in the comics. And they tackled serious issues too, such as when Sneak Peek was thought to be dead but was actually in deep cover for years... and when he came home at last, his mother had dementia and didn't know him. And then there was the time a SAW Viper gunned down a BUNCH of long-standing Joe members in cold blood. If someone could bring that to the small screen, complete with the character development from the comics, it would be amazing.
YES, TOTALLY... A G.I.Joe series would be even better than movies.
Too many characters involved to not be a series.
Cynthia Miller ,DITTO.
I think of this all the time. It's unfortunate that Hasbro always opts for modernizing their brands and marketing strategies instead of focusing on their own source material.
Cloaked Bandit ,when Soldier of Fortune Inc. Used to air, it reminded me of the G.I. Joe team on missions. Movies or a t.v. show like that would work for the G.I. Joe brand. And no more global, international, joint, operating entity. Keep the pit at Fort Bragg. They're all worried about being to politically correct. For instance the new Rambo is from India. You know Bollywood.LMAO
Can we get the guys who remade voltron on netflix to remake Gi Joe on Netfilx too?
Hell, why not take a crack at Silver Hawks, Inhumanoids, and/or Robotech (licenses willing)
Hell yeah! I would love to see all 3 of those brought back!
Jared speaks the truth
I cant believe a game company hasnt made a battlefront style game. Gi joe has the character models, vehicle that look cool and a cool retro style
And a Command & Conquer strategy game. Have you played Toy Soldiers: War Chest? You can play with G.I. Joe, Cobra, and He-Man.
I don't care what most say...that cliff side fight with snakeyes in the second one was an amazing fight scene.
We are clearly in the Worlds Without End Timeline. Cobra has won. This is how it starts.
my all time favourite episode... that VHS was so worn down haha
Jason Martin Blaming SJWs (that's not actual thing) is just stupid. If you think about in comic books Cobra was American domestic terrorist organization born in Springfield, Illinois making them alt right terrorists.
Johannes Mäkilä sjws are most definitely a thing
Dan, you forgot to mention that Cobra Industries is also a multi-national business conglomerate working on advancements is space travel, weather control, and bio-engineering... oh and world domination.
I don't get paid to represent COBRA. Do your own PR!
Fair play there, my bad.
Commander of Cobra for a minute there I thought you were talking about amazon...or google.
And how do you know that I wasn't?
Yeah man GI Joe has to come back :D Yo Joe!
Marcelo's Toy Room be nice if it was based on the original ARAH.
Matthew Summers Yes! Bro the arah comics or the cartoon :D man if they could do gi joe 12 Sierra gordo battle, gi joe 21 silent interlude :D oh man :D
I agree, my father played with them in the 70's, I played with them all the way from 2004 up to 2011, I would love to collect them again...
Conta da Familia GI Joe was so influential bro :D if they did like a war movie it would nice too :D whatever they do. I hope is not like suicide squad :D
Marcelo's Toy Room So much so, that Brazilian GIJOE manufacturer (Estrela), re-launched their Falcon (Brazilian 1/6 scale GIJOE, fluffy hair kind of) on an anniversary edition last year, so now I own the same Joe my father used to play with as a child, and this is awesome to me.
As for the movie, I would prefer if they went for it with their original clothing, only modernized, not those jetblack-scifi-armors they used on the last live-action movies..would like to see how thise flashy outfits would translate into most recent times (thinking of Sgt.Slaughter, Bazooka..etc)
Hasbro declares that GI Joe is the jewel of the company, but don't give a shit about it.
Diego Borges to be fair IDW declares that... and then fouled it up with a writer who kept getting to drama after drama
If they don't have Shipwreck in the next G.I. Joe movie, Hollywood and everyone in it has failed. FAILED!!!
And Wild Bill!
Shipwreck, Wild Bill, Spirit, should make movie debuts and be part of the team. Not just side characters that get killed off quick. I want Some or the Rise of Cobra characters to come back as well
If they don’t have shipwreck then the movie will be a shipwreck
I want Dusty too
You know, at 2:54 I was imagining a Marvel Hyperion/Gladiator superhero type swooping in to save Duke from Cobra Commander, and Dan mmediately suggests that GI Joe needs superheroes! Great timing Dan!
I just want G I Joe back on the shelves. I don't care about films, but after seeing what Hasbro's done with Star Wars 3 3/4 figures with little to no articulation and cheap plastic maybe it's better for Joe to rest.
BrettZilla2000 I know the retailation figures were such garbage. None of the 3 I bought could stand up much less hold their crap weapons.
Yikes, did Hasbro license the work out to whoever makes dollar store toys?
kurisu7885 ironically, the dollar general had a semi-exclusive line of gi joes in 2013 and they were arguably the best bang for your buck at the time. I bought so many black and blue cobra troopers, green dukes and shipwrecks for customs.
Ah, I had no idea, though I was thinking more of Dollar Tree than Dollar General
To be fair Star wars figures have always been terribly made
After suffering through four transformers movies, and two gi joe movies I am ready to bid the entire cinematic idea goodbye. An army of monkeys could have done a better job. The original 80s movie, the comics, even the script in my head seem like freekin Laurence of Arabia in comparison to what we got. Don’t need em, don’t want em. No more movies!
The first one is meh but it was the first film so I let it slide. The second and third Transformers movies are all right. Not great by any means but decent popcorn flicks. The fourth film though... that was a dumpster fire. So bad that between that and Bay saying we would pay to see anything he makes I intentionally boycott the fifth movie. Still haven't seen it and probably won't watch it on Netflix or Hulu either.
I will say though what I love about the Transformers movies is it revitalized the toy brand for a time. It was great to get the original 80s toys remade. Then to have a modern take on the line with Classics. And now to have a vastly upgraded variation on the originals with Masterpiece. The last 15 years has been a great time to be a collector.
Koloth yeah, I’m a collector of mp and 3p myself, but I’m not so forgiving on any of these movies, all dumpster fires except maybe tf1. Revitalized the franchise? maybe, maybe not. Cartoons and dream wave have kept it alive for the older fans like me imo.
Revitalized as in brought back into the mainstream. I don't know if you remember but collecting during the 90s and early 2000s wasn't all that great. Beast Wars was a good cartoon but the figures were pretty bad and really difficult to find. Car Robots had good toys but a kind of odd show also difficult to find. Then there was the Armada trilogy. Those shows and the toys were really awful, just the worst kind of junk for kids. Then along came the live action movies and suddenly Transformers exploded. It was everywhere and it was great and you didn't even have to watch the movies to reap the benefits. Of course now the new toys are the flimsiest junk around but at least MP is still good.
Koloth I agree, but alternators is what got me back into collecting.Then i bought that first grey mp starscream all those years back, had to order it from japan, I think Takara would have done the mp line movies or not. Now that my mp line is getting near complete I’m hoping for a gi joe line made with the same quality of the marvel selects figures. Then I can finally rest lol.
Maybe. But I doubt the MP line would have continued if MP 01 hadn't been such a massive success.
You can’t sell something that awesome anymore
"Which Joe *has* to be in the next movie?" Beachhead!
I remember my friend and I in Target one day marveling in confusion when the G.I. Joe sequel toys showed up but they pushed the movie back to do a 3D conversion so they just sat there all year round. I'm glad I still have my 25th anniversary figures.
Army Ants has already happened in IDW. I was at Hascon last year and caught a panel with some of the IDW guys. They were very excited to talk about how they'd been given the green light to incorporate a lot more Hasbro properties. They confirmed that those were in fact Army Ants in Scarlett's Strike Force #1.
Love these reflective pieces you’ve been doing more of lately. Well done.
Hey Joe! Where'd you go? Seriously, I've been hoping for more stuff from the Joe team since GIJOE Resolute!!!! I love that film!!!!
I think instead of making live action movies they should make animated movies based on the style of Hasbro cartoons from the 80s. Make a Transformers, G I Joe, M.A.S.K, and Visionaries movie. It would be awesome to see the classic 80s cartoons in one big movie.
NO NO NO NO do not do another Joe movie for the love of GOD. A total reboot in the form of a serious TV series is the only way to revive it. I don't want to see them mixing with Transformers either, that's guaranteed to be stupid.
Tomax and Xamot
Oh man! I don’t know if I can handle another toy property lol! I would like to see joes come back though. I still have my original figures from the 90s
Army Ants was actually in the IDW Comics Scarlet Strike Force but that was since canceled apparently, I loved those little critters when I was younger so I was so happy to see them and immediately recognized the ants and actually forgot for a second they were Hasbro's property.
I'll be 50 this summer. I collect the 12" Adventure Team GI Joes. There is a renaissance at Cotswold Collectibles for my age group that is very creative and lively. Their Elite Brigade has a wonderful "70's vibe" to add to the original vintage Adventure Team line of GI Joe from the 1970's.
And they are by no means the only company catering to the Sixth Scale crowd of yesteryear.
The Joes hunting down decepticons on the big screen would be awesome
Great video. Kinda didn't see the absence til you opened my eyes.
I was just thinking about this the other day! Thanks for doing this video.
You're welcome.
this is so crazy! i had no idea there was one GI joe movie, let alone two! , i guess i was just too busy being cool, going to bars, getting drunk, doing cool stuff. ill have to look into this
It's only a matter of time before cereal companies figure out that their mascots are marketable cinematic characters. Who doesn't want to see the seafaring adventures of Cap'n Crunch, or Lucky's desperate run to hold onto his Lucky Charms? And the Dark Universe won't hold a candle to the Chocula Universe!
On the surface that idea seems insane.... but then again they somehow made a movie about the game Battleship., so.... 😂
All the JOE'S are COOL!
But as a kid, I especially liked LOWLIGHT, and DESTRO!
G.I. JOE was admittedly a part of why I joined the UNITED STATES NAVY!
I wanted to be a, "REAL AMERICAN HERO!" .
I've been out of the military for years now.
But it's kinda COOL that I can say, I WAS A REALIFE, G.I. JOE!
YO! JOE!🇺🇸
The story about STORM SHADOW, SNAKE EYES & ZARTAN was spot on from the Comic book.
You're totally right. Have the NEST team in Transformers develop an even more covert team, the Joe's, and BOOM, GI JOE! And the MASK team can divide from them. Easy.
Great video as always. My 2 cents:
Cent 1- The most popular age of GIJoe was from the 80's what with the Cartoon and 3 3/4" figures. The line was called GI Joe, A Real AMERICAN hero. True story, here in Canada when I was a kid the series was still called ARAH, but all the sticker sheets had Canadian Flags on them. Sure, us Canadians are like your cooler (temp and temperament) cousin to the North, so the emphasis on the American aspect was never an issue, but outside of North America it certainly was not as beloved in other areas.
Cent 2 - GI Joe has attempted multiple re-boots with little to no support from the the 3 3/4 base collectors. For example Sigma 6 was a slam dunk but panned from the start by the base for not being what they were used to. The sad thing is that only after the line died a painful death did the brilliance of the figures become apparent.
Not to down sigma six nut gi joe without vehicles is kind of like star wars with out space ships. As a toy line it doesnt add up.
GIJoe were one of the most popular boy's toys in Greece during the late 80's and the early 90's, despite the fact that they were somewhat expensive (probably because unlike other toylines that were manufactured under licence by greek toy companies, they were imported). Strangely we had the comic, before the toyline (I think it appeared about 1986-7) and because the name GIJOE meant nothing to anybody (and generally back then they tended to transliterate/translate foreing titles) they named it something than more or less means Strike Force in english.
We called him action man in the UK. We had a live action film first as well. Staring one of the gladiators I belive:)
Dean Jones, That's a difference franchise mate (one that's older than GI Joe). GI Joe waas called "Action Force: International Heroes" over here, they basically switched it from US Special Forces to a NATO Strike Team.
I'm surprised they haven't put out a collector's 6 inch line like the Star wars black series. Classic characters with better sculpts, weapons with holsters in a larger size for better display options.
Own about 2500 G.I.Joe figures but got off that train when NEW figures started selling for 50USD each. Beautiful sculpts that I admire from afar.
Screw all that I want a pie face movie but really Dan we need more gi joe keep up the good work
Great commentary! With respect to the two Joe movies thus far, I was left with the impression of their (the filmmakers) trying to reinvent the wheel. Imo, the best way to reboot the series is go back to basics. Start with the original 13 Joes from the 80s and keep them ICONIC looking. As in have them in updated versions of their original uniforms, but still recognizable (like the Sideshow figures). Same with the vehicles; I think fans would go nuts to see the original vehicles on screen. Lastly, story-wise, they need look no further than the 80s comics for ideas. Those were great stories, and all the better in having been written by a war vet.
Great vid! I was wondering the same thing. I’ve been catching up on some Joes I missed on EBay. Got some Sideshow Joes as well. All great stuff.
I don't want a shared universe of gi joe and transformers. I love both franchises, but they are nothing alike. Crossovers work best when the 2 franchises or characters have similarities.
I mean we crossover with marvel and they have nothing in common
Add Jem, C.O.P.S, Inhumanoids and Air Raiders to that massive crossover idea and I’m in!
I really want a follow up full series of the gi Joe resolute shorts that were on in the mid 2000s
Fun fact that I'm 100% sure is unintentional. You released this on ANZAC day, which is a public holiday down here in Australia and New Zealand where we celebrate and remember our troops and veterans. Seems oddly appropriate.
Awesome video!
That GI Joe toy commercial. I was instantly 5 years old again lol.
I still have the old GI Joe vs Transformers comics from the mid 80s plus about 80 of my old GI Joe's.
Toy Galaxy I was about to say "the GIJOE reboot movie is slated for March 2020 brother!" because most of this video u kinda suggested that u don't know what's happening with words like "stuck on the sidelines" & "red tape" but right near the end you came through stating the movie date. 😃Toys are speculated to be back on shelves then. Hopefully with a 6 inch Legends/Black Series line finally! 😉 I can see it now, GIJOE LEGENDS ..or GIJOE THE BLACK SERIES.
Cool video I always like listening to your toy antics lol
with the 'reboot' of Transformers with the new Bumblebee movie it would have been a prime opportunity to sneak a GI Joe or two into the mix.
I wonder if the reason could be that G.I. Joe never aired in many countries, and was named "Action Force" in many others ... there is simply less brand recognition than for brands like Transformers, which sold internationally. The only reason I know G.I. Joe was because we had an international cable package that included English-language channels that aired it. The toys were available under the "Action Force" name for about one year at the few Toys 'R Us stores here in Germany, without TV ads. At least in Germany, Switzerland and Austria, G.I. Joe is simply too obscure to be able to bank on nostalgia.
Snake-eyes was the best of the best. But who needs an army commando trained in the deadly secret ninja arts when you have DRONES.
The suits blew their chance to introduce GI Joe with the Bumblebee movie.
Yeah. GIJoe was awesome. But unlike its 80s contemporaries, GIJoe was driven by good old fashion flag waving American patriotism. We now live in a darker political climate. The colors of 'Old Glory' just don't shine as bright as they use to. Just look at Captain America's latest suit.
You mean the one in Infinity War? Yeah, he's basically Nomad now. A man without a country. Maybe that's what G.I. Joe needs to do to come back; embody what is good in America and remind people of that. Captain America is the same thing.
My thoughts exactly. And yes, I did mean Cap's infinity war costume. The stars and stripes always stood for the ultimate ideals and the ultimate good guys. And now the greatest Amercan patriot in comic book history dresses like he's ashamed of his flag. That's not right.
I disagree. GI Joe on its surface was about flag-waving, perhaps, and the cartoon fell into that a lot, but the comic especially tried to be a bit more complex than that.
In the first issue their job is to rescue a pacifist who was in the middle of whistle-blowing an AMERICAN doomsday project when she is kidnapped by Cobra to disclose nuclear secrets. One of the Joes even brings up their concerns about rescuing a "traitor", leading to Hawk reminding the team that they are the good guys, which means they defend the Constitution and the right of civilians to free speech. Burkhart even makes one of the more moving choices in the comic - when Cobra Commander has her held at gunpoint and is bargaining for her life, she shoves herself at him, taking the bullet, because she doesn't want any of the Joes to have to be harmed because of her choices.
There's other issues where the Joes leave a shady CIA agent out to dry in Afghanistan to answer for his deeds, where they manage to cooperate with a Soviet team (during the Cold War) for a result that met both their needs and stopped the true danger in Cobra, and where the plight of veterans returning home and not necessarily being helped by the government is discussed. The country is at its best when we look at it not as a flag to be waved blindly, but as a whole comprised of good and bad.
Love your reply. And you're right about the comics having deeper, grittier story lines. Especially "GI Joes - Special Missions" But I disagree. I think GI Joe was more about the optics, not necessarily the reality. The Joe's symbolized the best of America's fighting men. The team was strong because America's ideals were the strongest. Truth, justice, freedom. And the Joe's were the 1st and last line of defense against those who opposed those values.
For example: Hasbro originally created the GI Joe toy line to represent all the uniformed American armed forces. If you were in the military. If you wore uniform. You were a GI Joe. But Vietnam changed all that. Because for the 1st time the American military was no longer seen as the "good guys". Bad optics equaled poor toy sales.
So Hasbro revamped GI Joe into a smaller team. It became an elite group of specially trained military men. They wore military attire but not authentic uniforms. And their allegiance was to America's values and not politics.
But now America's values are in question. And a lot of people in the world are starting to fear us. And not just the "bad guys". In this day and age, a secret American strikeforce of elite commandos, and ninjas might make people feel more unsettled then secure. Especially when the country's leader seems to have Cobra Commander traits. It's all about the optics and toy sales. GI Joe needs a clean flag like Transformers need alt modes.
Dropmix is dope. Got it for my wife as a gift, and she LOVES it.
Maybe whatever new entry Gi Joe gets could feel like a mix between the bond movies and Metal Gear solid
Is Cobra Commander slowly making the world forget GIJOE?
Oh no! There breaking my door down! Help! Help! Hel...*
Hail Cobra!
dude, GI JOE Renegades was so good!
i miss it :(
It was SO GOOD.
It wasnt bad! They shouldve continued to the point making more toys for the next generation
We all do. It was the only iteration of GI Joe that didn't feel like I was watching a Village People video. Renegade actually worked and painted the concept of GI Joe as both plausible and enjoyable.
I dont know why Machinama cant pick up GI joe Renegades where Hasbro left off? Machinama is jumping through hoops for Trasnformers
I wish they'd bring back the toys. I personally collect full size Joe's in the box, but with no new Joe's on the market, finding them at second hand shops, garage sales and eBay is getting reeeeaaallly hard...
Joe of choice: Lowlight.
Cobra: Tomax/Xamot Paoli
Honourary mentions: Tunnel Rat, Shipwreck, Chuckles, a redone Flint, Lady Jaye
Great video as always, Dan.
I miss GIJOE and look forward to the movie reboot.
I'm still holding onto hope that Hasbro will test the 6" Black Series for GIJOE with a wave of Snake-Eyes, Storm Shadow, and Cobra Commander to start off. I think it would be another goldmine for the company.
Here’s my pitch: Netflix GIJoe series, set in the early to mid 80s ala Stranger Things, with all the original characters faithfully portrayed as written by Hama. And faithful screen recreations of the 80s vehicles and bases.
Love your work man.
With Bumblebee being essentially a soft reboot of the Transformers cinematic universe, now would be a prime time for a GIJoe reboot to tie in with Transformers on the big screen. Imagine if after the credits, John Cena was approached by General Hawk to join a top secret multinational fighting force, codename GIJoe...
Shipwreck, and the orange astronaut idk what his name is but I had that as my only joe toy from the 80s line.
I hope they bring back ZARTAN! He needs his DREDDNOCKS & change color in sunlight!
They need to start at the beginning,when Snake Eyes,Storm Shadow and Stalker served together in the military.From there they can lead into the Snake Eyes /Storm Shadow saga.
04:48 The Transformers animated series had an episode (The Transformers, _Only Human_ S3, Ep23 ) in which they mention that G.I. JOE and COBRA existed in the past. A movie that links them together wouldn't be far-fetched. MASK and COPS also are in the same universe, so a cross-over with any of those Hasbro properties would still work.
Most Likely Joes in a reboot: Duke, Scarlett, Roadblock, Snake Eyes, Doc/Lifeline (Take your pic), and Gung-Ho.
Who I want in a Joe Reboot/Sequel: Snake Eyes, Roadblock, Alpine, Bazooka, Beach-Head, Law+Order, Cross Country and Shipwreck.
I got Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow and Firefly in the last movie. I really need me some Beachhead in the next movie to round out my favorite masked Joes/Cobras.
If they made a new reboot movie, I'd like to see Lt. Falcon return, as someone who is a cocky young US Army Officer, who BOUGHT his commission (through bribery or some looked down means) but is still pretty intelligent, but eventually learns what it really means to be a soldier, and eventually a GI Joe. Also, Really need a on screen appearance of Low Light.
And his dog? His dog? ...his WOLF, HIS WOLF! get it right dan damn you!
A WOLF, not a dog...
You could do what I have theorized and say that MASK is actually a clandestine branch of GI JOE, as VENOM is a secret branch of COBRA.
In regards to a GI JOE/Transformers crossover, that's been done before in the Transformers comics.
Also, the original 1984 animated Cobra Commander made a cameo in the G1 Transformers animated series. Season 4, Episode 88 - "Only Human".
Joe and transforners have crossed over a bunch of times in the comics since like early 90s because i have some of them
Josh’s character in Transformers was William Lennox. Could have just given him the nickname Wild Bill done. Crossover started.
I do not like what I am hearing out of Hasbro, that they are going to design all new characters for this new film. So no more Snake Eyes, Duke, Scarlet, Storm Shadow, Cobra Commander, Destro and the Baroness! :(
Well done. Love these.
I think the best way to connect G. I. Joe to the Transformers movies is to have the third Joe movie recruit Josh Duhamel (I probably spelled that wrong) and Tyrese’s characters from the Transformers movies into G. I. Joe and have them become Duke and Heavy Duty (probably Roadblock though)
Agreed.
What abaout the suscription figures?
If Jem isn't part of the Hasbro combined universe...than it is no universe I want to spend time in
I actually enjoyed the 2nd GI Joe movie. I know it wasn’t a *good* movie, but i thoroughly enjoyed it.
Hasbro needs to get on 6” Joes already. My wallet is ready.
6" Baroness and I will steal for it... :D
@Mike Kaess I also thoroughly enjoyed Retaliation and it was just shy of 1 million times better than that abortion of a first movie. The action was much stronger and harder, better plot, better cast, better acting and plenty of nods and homages to classic ARAH comics. As far as the figures go, while all I really want is for Hasbro to relaunch the 25th anniversary / "vintage" 3.75 line (just like they are now doing with Stat Wars), I would pay well more than $20 a pop for 6in Joe's done the right way with tons of guns/accessories and in a vintage artwork style window box with file card on the back. Having said that, I'd also like to see Mezco take the line as their current 1:12 Collective figs are practically perfection. Hasbro 6in figures would obviously be more affordable but Mezco would be the only way we could truly get all the accessories and finer details like an actual metal head sculpt for Destro, etc. Unless I'm mistaken (and I could be), 2017 was the first year where there was not a single Hasbro Joe figure on the shelves at retail since 1982...being a Joe fan and Joe collector is nothing short of soul crushing at this point. Also, as far as the whole "shared universe" thing where Snake Eyes and My Little Pony team up to defeat a giant Furbytron...NO THANK YOU
6 inch? FUCK NO. They need to redo the 3 and 3/4 inch one with a full line of vehicles
They didn't totally fail with the second movie, it did have it's good points. They announced a third movie at one point, and it was listed Dwayne Johnson's IMDB page. It's probably on hold until he has an opening in his non-stop schedule.
Yep after the 25th line it seems like collectors already have all of the best characters and sadly kids just aren't into the 4" figures any more. 6" somewhere between Star Wars Black and the Marvel Legends line would give collectors a new start point and a scale where kids can play with figures from different lines.
Wasn't Duhmels character (Captain Lennox) already in the original GI Joe/transformers marvel comics?
Movie? Nah.
An animated series done well? Yes.
But please no heroes on the run or anime style.
For real though, the human soldiers in the transformers movies ARE GI Joes as far as I'm concerned.
2:38 I used to watch this series!! It was good I thought lol but I don’t remember much, just remember they had to go into hiding
Ray Park was always my choice for Snake Eyes. Darth Maul made an impression. lol
Did you guys "borrow" the soundtrack for this vid from the Diablo 2 Rogue camp music? Got some heavy "stay a while and listen" vibes from it.
Anyhoo, I'm a Torpedo mark, would love to see a movie include an extended underwater sequence with Torpedo, Deep Six, the SHARK, and some Cobra Eels or something.
I was looking forward to the Hasbro Cinematic Universe, but now it seems that after the Bumblebee solo movie, the Transformers Movieverse is coming to an end. So it makes the prequel movie (Bumblebee) seem kind of useless, and if they bring Transformers back we have to go though yet another building of that universe. And I guess the same would be true for G.I.Joe, and it is sad cause I thought Dwayne Johnson was prefect as Roadblock.
Plus to add to all of this, after this summer, the IDW comic universe is also gonna be rebooted, which means all that history and crossovers will be erased.
So the thought of waiting till 2020 for a possible G.I.Joe movie and a very vague chance of a shared universe is not only frustrating, but also kind of annoying.
Sorry for the rant, your video gave gave me a lot of fuel for thought. :)
Anyways I guess if there is a chance for a G.I.Joe movie I would love to see Shipwreck in it, and for the Cobras perhaps the Crimson Twins.
they better have Chuckles, Big Boa, Sci-fi, and all of Battle Force 2000 for it to be the best damn GI Joe movie ever. Oh, and throw in the Eco-warriors.
I'd be hyped to see either Snow job or Deep six in the next film.
I just miss the feeling of going into a store and getting a new gijoe 😢
Some resin when you mentioned war is good part, a Ferengi from the Star Trek Universe popped in to mind. But since the question has been asked. Where is G.I. JOE?
Both first and 2nd movies was pretty good, some of the toy's as cool as well.
GI Joe is the fast and furious of 80s toys.
And knowing is half the battle.
I still live in hope that Hasbro will announce a 6" black series for GI Joe with core characters. I can dream...
They need to reboot those movies.
I want Sgt Slaughter to make an appearance, maybe as a trainer for the new Joes.
The plot from the GI Joe: Reborn trade paperback could be adapted to a workable script
The Crimson Twins need to be in the next one. Id love to see Hasbro do a marvel type strategy and build to the cobra civil war story line from the old marvel comic run.
Pretty amazing to see the success now, just a few short years later. G.I.Joe is on fire!
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didnt they kill all the joes at the beginning of 2? except for the 3 or 4 joes that the movie was about
Most of the Joes, yeah. That's what they made it look like, anyway.
It was not a good decision but it was the scenario. Yet they really should reboot and do other movies. Looking more like G.I.Joe, like you know, the character having their actual appearance... Not Zartan looking like an ordinary guy (when he is not the president), Destro looking like and ordinary guy and Baroness being a good girl (that is not about appearance but it spoiled the movie for me).
Got to be Wet Suit or Crazy Legs for me, two great figures I owned as a kid.
I think that Hasbro has followed the Star Wars Juggernaut so blindly,that even when the stuff gets stale on the pegs,everything else just got ignored.
DESTRO (classic) needs to be in the next one, and not with bad CGI this time! I agree, Retaliation was a vast improvement over Rise of Cobra. It would be cool to see Roadblock (Johnson) get down and dirty in a big fight at the end with Destro (recast with a more muscular and menacing actor).
Forget all the rest of the other Hasbro franchises - bring back the Inhumanoids! Giant monsters are where it is at, especially if D'Compose is working with Cobra and the Decepticons.