You should really try the Inca out if you want to do a tall game. Their new mechanics let them have insanely cheap advisors. I think I was paying like 30 ducats total for three level 5 advisors. On top of that you can remove development penalties in Mountains, Highlands, and Hills.
@LudietHistoria 22:55 There is a patch of blue where jewish magority remained in EU4, so i guessed that is the colour of it... But than Bohemian part is the same(?)??
Strigolnichestvo is a religious sect that appeared in Russia mid 14th centuries and disappeared before 15th century. They thought the Orthodox priesthood was illegitimate. They appeared in Pskov and spread into Novgorod and Tver, if I remember correctly.
The calvanist dice roll thing is hilarious. I can see mp wars where the calvanist retreats asap if they get a bad roll, and the enemy does if they get a good one.
@Jean_Jacques148 also, the queen of Sheba came probablu from Ethiopia, after that a big Jewish community settled there. So it's not weird if they changed that.
Inti having unique mechanics from launch is such a huge awesome sign. It means that there's actually going to be flavor in the game on launch if such an obscure religion has mechanics. The game just won't be completely barren like a certain other recently released game with no flavor
It would be interesting if they have an assimilating gods mechanic since the Tawantinsuyu used to assimilate the gods of conquered peoples into their pantheon.
@@ezirsavan vic 3. i personally like the game, but i can definitely see where the hate is coming from. First of all, there was barely any flavor in the game at launch, making it dry and uninteresting. Second of all, the war system is kinda shitty. Third of all, bugs. lots and lots of bugs. front lines not appearing, gold reserves not filling up, you name it. This made the already shitty mechanics even worse.
New research believes that Bosnian church was not Bogomilic as previously thought, but a part of Catholic church that was influenced by Orthodoxy, local beliefs and maybe even more, that the Catholic church considered heretics because of those beliefs. They had different beliefs because they were on the edge of the Catholic world, and because the mountains made them relatively isolated from Rome
Makes more sense also considering that the purple one is only in Bosnia, and the pink one is also in another part of the Balkans and Bogomilism started in Bulgaria
Quickly going to share my thoughts on North America religions: Green is definitely Midew/Algonquin Gold/Honey is something Iroquoian, I've seen their religious traditions referred to as broadly a "Cult of the Three Sisters" but I'm sure they have a better name Navy Blue seems to be something of the Stomp Dancer tradition (the fact Illinois isn't Midew also seems to confirm Cahokia!!! will exist at game start in my eyes since this would be before any Illiniwek migration there), perhaps they'll just name it "Muskagean" Yellow is obviously the indigenous plains beliefs that I have seen referred to as "Plains Way" but they might again name it something more appropriate (or just "Siouan" or some other ethnoreligious term) Blue-Purple is definitely Dené Purple-Maroon is probably Totemist proper The amount of religions in northern Canada, like in 1 province, is kind of surprising to me? I imagine 1 is something Inuit and the rest might actually just be like OPMs where they test religious mechanics that aren't actually mapped out accurately yet. Just a hunch. Overall I think it's looking very good, excited to see how it develops.
I actually like the dice system, as it take into account the factors that couldn't be predicted or you couldn't prepare for and the skills of the generals were reflecting his ability to adapt.
16:32 At 1337 Korea was still being ruled by the Goryeo dynasty, Joseon wouldn't be founded until 1392. Also, 'Joseon' is pronounced 'Choson' or 'Joson', not 'Jo-sion'. It's why the Korean achievement in eu4 is called 'the Choson One'. When you come across these weird 'eo's or 'eu's in Korean words, just ignore the 'e' and pronounce them as 'o' and 'u'. It's a result of our stupid romanization system which makes it impossible for foreigners to read our words.
It is pronounced "Josón" in Portuguese, with the sound most similar to the original pronunciation. I still can't pronounce the "eu" correctly, like in "Gaeul" 🥲
You know, if the game launch is still far away, maybe it's a good thing that they stick to `tinto talks` and `project Caesar` for now, to keep everyone but those deeply invested unaware and thus not breathing down their neck. Too many big games these days launch too soon because of too much hype-created pressure to not push it back. If the EU5 devs manages to avoid that trap and enroll the community for over a year to polish up their game without triggering media waves, THEN announce it as EU5 and release it like a month after that, so that it both meets expectations AND drops after a massive but short hype campaign, ngl that'd be pretty f-ing genius if they can pull it off....
Right? So many games are announced way too early and either lose all hype or end up promising too much. Some games take almost a decade to come out of early access these days too, if they ever do.
14:19 I think the lavender in Bosnia is meant krsjani because that is where that religion is I. Ck3 and almost the same color too, if I had guess the pink that confused you could be bolgomsm as it’s in both Bosnia and Bulgaria which would make sense
Beautiful analysis Ludi! I'm very pleasantly surprised by your knowledge of Hinduism in SEA, and Jainism in Western India. Mahayana in Sindh (Western India) was a surprise to me too. And yes, it is Islam in the Maldives. You're also correct about the small patches of Zoroastrians in Iran. In any case, I'm so hyped for EU5!
If you really want your mind blown, look up the Alexandrian kingdoms that converted to Buddhism in that region and afgananistan many centuries earlier. Greek Buddhists. Not what most people imagine.
@@vukanmilosavljevic4289 I have a mod for Eu4 that adds Caspian, Great lakes, and certain rivers but not lakes. I hope all of them will be in Vanilla Eu5 but think Johan said no navigable rivers
@cromancer3219HOI4's navy is very complicated and it only suits the very late modern ages of WW2 and nowadays,I don't think it will be added to EU5 but it isn't bad
23:14 I live in this region. We have our own studies about Sakhas ethnogenesis. First came tungus-manchurian tribes. And then in 9-13 centuries arrived mongolic uriankhai and buryaad tribes. And then Kangly cumans arrived in 16th century ending the migration period. All the innumerous tribes later binded by language and culture during the Kyrgys (warmongeering) period formed the Sakha culture
This game might be a better medieva game than CK3 which is super sad. But a good thing, I actually have quite a lot of _faith_ in EU5 so far. Still cautiously optimistic. But optimistic non the less.
I love how almost all the Philippine Islands is Animist aside from that one little Mahayana spot on the shores between Manila Bay and Laguna Lake, which I assume is either Tondo or Namayan.
As a pastor, I'm cracking up that they have "Calvinists won't re-roll dice because everything is pre-ordained." Bruh. Points to whoever came up with that. Hilarious and genius. Also, I'm happy to see there will be dice :) I prefer EU4's combat system over any other Paradox game so far. Unless they somehow innovate it! Which I'd be fine with too!
The religion in east Anaolia should be Apostolic, Armenians have their own church, the Armenian Apostolic church. The fact that EU4 has it as Coptic was just lazy.
I wish they added a zeal mechanics for the religions from fanaticism all the way to atheism. It would be really cool to slowly change your country to a fanatic horde or straight up an atheistic state, with all downsides and benefits of it.
atheistic states were far from existing during the entire eu5 timeline , so not really applicable. Religious zeal def did vary from area to area though
@@ВасяПупкин-ш9ы2ч Buddhism is definitionally Atheistic as there is no gods in buddhism, but as for modern atheism probably not although they might make up a minor minority group in the later end of the game
smagati damn bro, that was so fun to watch, I would be really enjoined if you do some stream-chanski or 10 hrs video of how you staring at those maps and telling your thoughts about it
Johan and Pavia mentioned on DD that many parts of the world are WIP and / or miss minorities yet. I suspect that is why for instance north america is quite detailed and south america not at all.
That blue bohemian thing might be conciliarism, because the bohemian reformation started in the 14th century, and Jan Hus pretty much expanded on it. Prague was a very important city in every aspect, including clergy and especially theology (one of the first subjects taught on the Charles University), and the call for reformation emerged quite early there (talking 1370s)... among them were also the ideals of conciliarism... Either it's this or idk
@@JablkoZelen No idea what that might be, afaik there weren’t any other religions than christianity and especially catholicism in Bohemia at the starting date
Some proper historical documents would be nice but from what Ive seen Buddhism in Sindh was essentially gone by this and time subjected to small locals in the area. 18:26
Hi! Nice video, pretty exited for this amount of different religions! I would add about Manichaeinsm: it's not a simple mix of Judaism and Christianity, it's basically an original dualistic religion (probably, radicalized version of Sethianism as it described by Hyppolite) with its prominent mythology. It was intended to be syncretic (like the final version of all known religions) that's why it was widely adapted and popular. I think, they added them because of Chinese Manichaeinsm, it was only banned there in the second half of 1300-х. Waiting for the game!
Hey Ludi, Love your vids, i watch every one. Little Histrory note 16:34 It is not Joseon yet King Taejo overthew Goryeo in 1392 and changed the name from Goryeo to Joseon in 1393
Looking at the tiles you can also tell that Caspian Sea will be a little bit more important than it is in EU4. Maybe we will be able to build Caspian Sea fleet LOL
Strigolnichestvo is Orthodox heresy that started in Pskov, something like lollard, against church hierarchy. In Russian it sounds like Strigolniki - Стригольники
13:00 The blue in eastern North America would be Mississippian religious area. Cahokia would still be around until the mid-14th century. I'm curious to see what they'll do with that.
I think that the purple colour on the religion map mode represents the "Krstjani" branch of Christianity, because it was exclusively practiced in Bosnia, whereas Bogomilism was practiced in various places.
Did you just say that it doesn't have massive production maintenance when it is using paper? Love that Calvin Mechanic that sounds so random that it might just be awesome.
The two religions in "Yugoslavia" are probably Bogomilism (smaller pink) and Krstjani (larger lavender.) Krstjani being the Bosnian Church which had a schism with Rome over their differences and the Bogomils being primarily Vlach refugee communities who had fled other parts of the Balkans when Bogomilism was deemed heresy and they we're expelled.
So about Jainism, one of it's core tenets is ahimsa(non violence) towards everyone. This is the reason they refuse to intentionally hurt any human, animal or insect and which is why they cannot eat non vegetarian food or food grown underground and they tend to drink boiled water and have strict rules of eating before dusk. I like how developers made so jainism cannot attack without cb because that would be kinda realistic for a religion that puts such heavy stress on not hurting anyone.
I do think impassable is too much, but tbf south east brazil was all jungle, often mountain jungles even, we basically had no grasslands the way Europe or North America have. I'm from Rio btw, we just cleared all of it.
I am a little sad that again Europe and its tiles are huge comparatively to the rest of the world. I know it kind of has to if they want to show all the HRE nations, but it’s always been a gripe of mine with eu4.
In bosnia, the purple spot is bogomolism (you can see another spot in the mountains of greece), the big greyblue color is krstjani. The bosnian church being considered bogomils isn't an accepted thing in scholarship anymore so they just call them what they called themselves.
Those colors in the far east of Siberia may be the Inuit-Yupik religions of the Inuit of the Arctic North America, and the Yupik of Alaska and Siberia.
Strigolnichestvo or Strigolniki are basically equivalent to hussites but in Russia, they are pre-protestant religious movement that stood against at a time current religious establishment and practices like fees.
I am soo freaking excited for this game my early Christmas wish is please let it eb released soon :'D. Also Cheers Ludi I appreciate you making content, keep it going and congrats on that 200k man
25:31 I think that's supposed to be Waldensian, which was present in Bohemia and often associated with the later introduction of Wycliffe's teachings that subsequently influenced Hussitism.
Must be. Was looking at a list of different declared heresies, but Waldensian is one of the "bigger" candidates. Probably useful for some strange achievment later: Take France and Rome and make Waldensian majority religion, something like that. :P
In the Tinto Maps about France, they said something about not portrayed Catholic heresies yet, and Waldensians were not mentioned on the Christians faith list. I also think thet if they were to add Waldensians, it would make more sense to be around Provence and Savoy during this period wouldn't it? Like what others said, it's probably Judaism, since the same color appears in Ethiopia
The calvinist thing means that alt-f4ing and redoing the battle won't change the dice roll. Presumably the seed is loaded on initial game generation but takes in enough inputs that every battle will have unique dice rolls but redoing the battle will have the same result as the inputs are the same (unless you change it last second like add a discipline advisor [eu4 analogy]) very funny.
i m not a Jain but i m indian and i know somewhat about them, since i m not a jain i cannot entirely tell what they stan for and represent. But from my learnings their main moto amd message is, all life is precious, and every living being has a right to live, and we must respect all life and not kill any. Therfore they they dont eat any form of meat, and about the things that grow underground, it is becuz when you harvest carrots or root vegetables, you end up killing the plant for it's the food. But they can eat fruits which does not kill or harm the tree that grows it. hope this information helps.
The Green color in North America would be the religion of Algonquian tribes and the dark yellow color would be the religion of Iroquoian peoples. Maybe the blue color in the southern USA is some sort of grouping for some kind of Mississippian Culture religion.
That golden/brown color in north america is probably representing the Iroquois nation (so mohawk and the like). I'm interested to see wich religion they have compared to the rest of Québec's natives.
Hypothesis : the blue patch in bohemia is orthodox, and it is different color from orthodox because it is an isolated residual patch with slavon culture
So, that bit in Bohemia might be Conciliarism. If that's a day 1 religion map that feels a little early, but maybe not. I need to do a deeper dive into the Bohemian Reformation but i do know that a fairly significant amount of the area was fairly critical of the Papacy even pre Jan Hus.
damn Ludi, you didnt talk about Sami Shamanism :D I was afraid from ck3 to feel barren and it was ok. From seeing these tinto talks, especially this religion talk, I guess we can be pretty relaxed about project ceasar. they really want to create a masterpiece.
According to the map Inti only exists in Cusco, this could mean quite a bit. Either they want to add more Andean faiths, or they’re trying to show that neighboring faiths weren’t the exact same.
14:08 the religion in Bosnia that you are referring to is actually what the game calls "krjstiani" religion a.k.a. the Bosnian church, I don't know a lot about it but apparently was a form of catholicism that was declared erethic from both catholics and orthodox, the pink bit that's bogomilism
Yep, their own thing, neither catoholic nor orthodox. They had their own hierarchy that wasn't based off of either Constantinople or Rome. The head of the church carried the title "Grandfather" lol
I wonder how they are going to balance the natives of the new world because in EU4 they can get pretty annoying even within 50 years, now imagine them having 150 years. IRL a lot of the times Europeans would just settle an area enough and that forced the natives to move, often times forcefully assimilate or they (Europeans) would fight the Natives and nothing really would happen so in game that means not a lot of AE actually happened IRL. They just didn't have the population to fight back due to diseases like small pox and weren't a unified people to care enough that their neighboring tribe got wiped out or close to wiped out. A lot of the times, they even helped the Europeans to wipe out their neighbors. And then as a player you need to be able to have the ability to fight back somehow while also not being able to unite both North and South America even before the Europeans arrive in the mid to late 1400's for basically free.
There are epidemics, so I imagine AI natives will get hit really hard. Adds a challenge for players playing as them and a buff for players playing as colonial nations.
I really hope they don't rush it. This game could make or break their entire reputation. If they kill their flagship series, I struggle to see how they will return
The Blue in North America is for the Mississippian chiefdoms and I must say the borders for it look pretty good! Also some of the blue dots in Iran are apparently Zoroastrian! As I'm sure you've heard by now, the map is VERY WIP so the Animists in South America and Africa will be expanded and shown as different ones eventually!
The Inti religion is probably not there because the Kingdom of Cuzco was only founded in 1438, and the religion originates from there. It will be born after an event and give significant bonuses to the initial expansion, considering that the Inca Empire grew so huge in barely 100 years.
It'd be awesome to add additional routes in the ocean in-between europe and new world but these routes have to be found by colonist countries via events or something and then other countries can steal the route to unlock it just like stealing maps in eu4.
Until EU5 arrives, check out my Holland run where we play mega tall in 1.37 th-cam.com/video/AehlfbJ6_Y4/w-d-xo.html
You should really try the Inca out if you want to do a tall game. Their new mechanics let them have insanely cheap advisors. I think I was paying like 30 ducats total for three level 5 advisors. On top of that you can remove development penalties in Mountains, Highlands, and Hills.
@LudietHistoria
22:55 There is a patch of blue where jewish magority remained in EU4, so i guessed that is the colour of it... But than Bohemian part is the same(?)??
Manichaism played an important role in the downfall of the Mongol empire in China. That's why it is so important at the time of the game.
I hope this wont end up like Vic3
pretty sure that strigolnchestvo is a hidden religion that will have its real name revealed when the game releases. seems like a joke pulled on fans
Strigolnichestvo is a religious sect that appeared in Russia mid 14th centuries and disappeared before 15th century. They thought the Orthodox priesthood was illegitimate. They appeared in Pskov and spread into Novgorod and Tver, if I remember correctly.
interesting, never heard of them before this
the more you know. Thanks OP!
Yo that might mean all kinds of dynamic faiths can emerge 👀👀👀👀 perhaps we'll have something echoing CK3 religion mechanics but in the new EU5 style
Oh they’re old believers?
@@americanaccolon1319 Old believers appeared way later, in 17th century
The calvanist dice roll thing is hilarious. I can see mp wars where the calvanist retreats asap if they get a bad roll, and the enemy does if they get a good one.
Coptic might be renamed, but they can never take away my glorious Coptic Ethiopia away from me
They can call it tewahedo instead.
Maybe its under the Judaic religion
Coptic is a Greek name for OG Egyptians... so maybe that's why they choose to call Armenians and Ethiopians other way?
@@bertjanspeedfight2true. At this time Ethiopia still had a sizeable Jewish population(still does).
@Jean_Jacques148 also, the queen of Sheba came probablu from Ethiopia, after that a big Jewish community settled there. So it's not weird if they changed that.
Ludi: You may want to build this in every province.
New resource system: Nope.
Inti having unique mechanics from launch is such a huge awesome sign. It means that there's actually going to be flavor in the game on launch if such an obscure religion has mechanics. The game just won't be completely barren like a certain other recently released game with no flavor
my thoughts too, looking good for launch version so far
It would be interesting if they have an assimilating gods mechanic since the Tawantinsuyu used to assimilate the gods of conquered peoples into their pantheon.
Which game is this?
@@ezirsavan EU5
@@ezirsavan vic 3. i personally like the game, but i can definitely see where the hate is coming from. First of all, there was barely any flavor in the game at launch, making it dry and uninteresting. Second of all, the war system is kinda shitty. Third of all, bugs. lots and lots of bugs. front lines not appearing, gold reserves not filling up, you name it. This made the already shitty mechanics even worse.
The great lakes in North America has tiles.
Yooo, navigable inland sea in north America? We can finally have our ironclad battles there!
Nice catch, so does the Caspian.
Actually i assume bosnia's religion will be "kristjani" and the pink thing is Bogomilism judging off ck3
it could be yeah
New research believes that Bosnian church was not Bogomilic as previously thought, but a part of Catholic church that was influenced by Orthodoxy, local beliefs and maybe even more, that the Catholic church considered heretics because of those beliefs. They had different beliefs because they were on the edge of the Catholic world, and because the mountains made them relatively isolated from Rome
Makes more sense also considering that the purple one is only in Bosnia, and the pink one is also in another part of the Balkans and Bogomilism started in Bulgaria
The Caspian sea has sea tiles, that's new and interesting!!
Ottomans had a canal project which would connect Caspian with Black Sea via Don and Volga rivers. But it didn't materialize.
@@ThalesMML Stalin did it though
Wanted to write the same :D
The North American great lakes have too
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Quickly going to share my thoughts on North America religions:
Green is definitely Midew/Algonquin
Gold/Honey is something Iroquoian, I've seen their religious traditions referred to as broadly a "Cult of the Three Sisters" but I'm sure they have a better name
Navy Blue seems to be something of the Stomp Dancer tradition (the fact Illinois isn't Midew also seems to confirm Cahokia!!! will exist at game start in my eyes since this would be before any Illiniwek migration there), perhaps they'll just name it "Muskagean"
Yellow is obviously the indigenous plains beliefs that I have seen referred to as "Plains Way" but they might again name it something more appropriate (or just "Siouan" or some other ethnoreligious term)
Blue-Purple is definitely Dené
Purple-Maroon is probably Totemist proper
The amount of religions in northern Canada, like in 1 province, is kind of surprising to me? I imagine 1 is something Inuit and the rest might actually just be like OPMs where they test religious mechanics that aren't actually mapped out accurately yet. Just a hunch.
Overall I think it's looking very good, excited to see how it develops.
I actually like the dice system, as it take into account the factors that couldn't be predicted or you couldn't prepare for and the skills of the generals were reflecting his ability to adapt.
Yes and there should be an element of randomness allowing for upsets.
I agree there are an uncountable number of battles where a good general lost to a weaker army, miracle victories should exist
16:32 At 1337 Korea was still being ruled by the Goryeo dynasty, Joseon wouldn't be founded until 1392.
Also, 'Joseon' is pronounced 'Choson' or 'Joson', not 'Jo-sion'. It's why the Korean achievement in eu4 is called 'the Choson One'. When you come across these weird 'eo's or 'eu's in Korean words, just ignore the 'e' and pronounce them as 'o' and 'u'. It's a result of our stupid romanization system which makes it impossible for foreigners to read our words.
Isn't there an alternate romanization system ?
It is pronounced "Josón" in Portuguese, with the sound most similar to the original pronunciation. I still can't pronounce the "eu" correctly, like in "Gaeul" 🥲
@@andess2018 there's actually a pretty similar sound to 'eu' in English, the 'o' in 'Jackson', 'Johnson', 'Michaelson' etc.
@@andess2018 it's just a schwa sound
@@blue-d4g ironically my name is Anderson 😂, thanks my friend 🤙🇧🇷
You know, if the game launch is still far away, maybe it's a good thing that they stick to `tinto talks` and `project Caesar` for now, to keep everyone but those deeply invested unaware and thus not breathing down their neck. Too many big games these days launch too soon because of too much hype-created pressure to not push it back. If the EU5 devs manages to avoid that trap and enroll the community for over a year to polish up their game without triggering media waves, THEN announce it as EU5 and release it like a month after that, so that it both meets expectations AND drops after a massive but short hype campaign, ngl that'd be pretty f-ing genius if they can pull it off....
Right? So many games are announced way too early and either lose all hype or end up promising too much. Some games take almost a decade to come out of early access these days too, if they ever do.
That’s the exact reason why they are doing that, as Johann stated in the first Tinto Talks :)
22:15 Ludi building Las Vegas in the middle of the Sahara as soon as EU5 is released
I think that might be Judiasm in Bohemia
It's paradox so i'm sure they will give ottomans a way to convert every single person in anatolia to be turkish sunni by 1340.
facts xD
Love these butthurt comments. It wasn't paradox that made the Ottoman turks so successful and the Byzantine greeks so pathetic.
14:19 I think the lavender in Bosnia is meant krsjani because that is where that religion is I. Ck3 and almost the same color too, if I had guess the pink that confused you could be bolgomsm as it’s in both Bosnia and Bulgaria which would make sense
Bogomilism started in Bulgaria by a bulgarian priest
I really like it that the caspian sea is navigable in eu5
Can't wait to see a buffed up Malian empire with 1337 being the death of Mansa Musah. That could be a very interesting playthrough.
Beautiful analysis Ludi! I'm very pleasantly surprised by your knowledge of Hinduism in SEA, and Jainism in Western India. Mahayana in Sindh (Western India) was a surprise to me too. And yes, it is Islam in the Maldives. You're also correct about the small patches of Zoroastrians in Iran.
In any case, I'm so hyped for EU5!
me too bro, super hyped for eu5
If you really want your mind blown, look up the Alexandrian kingdoms that converted to Buddhism in that region and afgananistan many centuries earlier. Greek Buddhists. Not what most people imagine.
@@titusbaum9690saying that they converted to buddism is misleading, that's not how pre-christian religions worked
it is good to remember that the map in question and its religions are a work in progress.
Did anyone else notice that the Caspian Sea has sea tiles? Finally we should be able to put boats there.
Time to build the largest fleet the world has ever seen. Only problem its landlocked...
I hope all the lakes are too but unlikely
Don't forget rivers. No more - 1 crossing penalty. Many ship battles were fought in Danube in Hungary, Serbia and Wallachia
@@vukanmilosavljevic4289 I have a mod for Eu4 that adds Caspian, Great lakes, and certain rivers but not lakes. I hope all of them will be in Vanilla Eu5 but think Johan said no navigable rivers
The "Light Green / Yellow" spot in India might be the Zorostrian faith
It might also be jains
the bottom tip of india i would assume is nestorian
The sea tiles are so much smaller. Moving navies around and seiging coasts will be something
@cromancer3219HOI4's navy is very complicated and it only suits the very late modern ages of WW2 and nowadays,I don't think it will be added to EU5 but it isn't bad
I was thinking "man gets overly excited by colors on a map" was a good tagline for the video, but that might just be the whole channel
every Paradox channel ever
23:14 I live in this region. We have our own studies about Sakhas ethnogenesis. First came tungus-manchurian tribes. And then in 9-13 centuries arrived mongolic uriankhai and buryaad tribes. And then Kangly cumans arrived in 16th century ending the migration period. All the innumerous tribes later binded by language and culture during the Kyrgys (warmongeering) period formed the Sakha culture
This game might be a better medieva game than CK3 which is super sad. But a good thing, I actually have quite a lot of _faith_ in EU5 so far. Still cautiously optimistic. But optimistic non the less.
No, better late medieval game maybe but not the whole of t middle ages
I love how almost all the Philippine Islands is Animist aside from that one little Mahayana spot on the shores between Manila Bay and Laguna Lake, which I assume is either Tondo or Namayan.
As a pastor, I'm cracking up that they have "Calvinists won't re-roll dice because everything is pre-ordained." Bruh. Points to whoever came up with that. Hilarious and genius.
Also, I'm happy to see there will be dice :) I prefer EU4's combat system over any other Paradox game so far. Unless they somehow innovate it! Which I'd be fine with too!
The religion in east Anaolia should be Apostolic, Armenians have their own church, the Armenian Apostolic church. The fact that EU4 has it as Coptic was just lazy.
Armenia, Egypt and Ethiopia all belong to oriental orthodoxy that is non-chalcedonian. It's better that they are called diffrently now.
miaphysite is an apt name for all of the eastern churches like armenian apostolic, tewahedo, and coptic
I wish they added a zeal mechanics for the religions from fanaticism all the way to atheism. It would be really cool to slowly change your country to a fanatic horde or straight up an atheistic state, with all downsides and benefits of it.
Yes
atheistic states were far from existing during the entire eu5 timeline , so not really applicable. Religious zeal def did vary from area to area though
were there any major atheistic societies in this time period?
@@ВасяПупкин-ш9ы2ч Buddhism is definitionally Atheistic as there is no gods in buddhism, but as for modern atheism probably not although they might make up a minor minority group in the later end of the game
@@BarnOwlTheHooMasterbuddists don't deny the existence of gods
They don't worship them but know they exist
smagati damn bro, that was so fun to watch, I would be really enjoined if you do some stream-chanski or 10 hrs video of how you staring at those maps and telling your thoughts about it
Fellow map starer detected
Johan and Pavia mentioned on DD that many parts of the world are WIP and / or miss minorities yet. I suspect that is why for instance north america is quite detailed and south america not at all.
I like that they've finally added the isms
dharmic would be buddhism too while eastern would be mostly the religions in china ,japan etc
yaa it should be but we dont know about paradox devs will they do it or it will remain same as in eu4
China seems buddhist in this so they should be dharmic too.
The religions in China and Japan are both Buddism. Mahayana and Shinto are both types of Buddism alongside Theravada in Indo-China
@@DinkDonk-qd4qm Shinto isn't a type of Buddhism. Buddhism influenced Shinto but they're separate religions.
@@DinkDonk-qd4qm i meant dharmic religion would mean religions founded in india such as buddhim, jainism, hinduism
That blue bohemian thing might be conciliarism, because the bohemian reformation started in the 14th century, and Jan Hus pretty much expanded on it. Prague was a very important city in every aspect, including clergy and especially theology (one of the first subjects taught on the Charles University), and the call for reformation emerged quite early there (talking 1370s)... among them were also the ideals of conciliarism... Either it's this or idk
But we saw a list of Christian religions and there it wasn't. It could be Lollards but what I know there was not dominating that region
@@JablkoZelen No idea what that might be, afaik there weren’t any other religions than christianity and especially catholicism in Bohemia at the starting date
@@IlGonfaloniere well I think the Devs are making fun from us, because in Indian ocean there is fictive island so
Looks like Caspian Sea will be traversable! There are sea locations there on the map so we will be able to build ships there.
The Caspian Sea has Sea provinces! we're going to have ports on it!
Some proper historical documents would be nice but from what Ive seen Buddhism in Sindh was essentially gone by this and time subjected to small locals in the area. 18:26
THATS WHAT I KNEW !!! Omg I need to research this cause I was kinda surprised it's the majority there in 1337
Hi! Nice video, pretty exited for this amount of different religions! I would add about Manichaeinsm: it's not a simple mix of Judaism and Christianity, it's basically an original dualistic religion (probably, radicalized version of Sethianism as it described by Hyppolite) with its prominent mythology. It was intended to be syncretic (like the final version of all known religions) that's why it was widely adapted and popular.
I think, they added them because of Chinese Manichaeinsm, it was only banned there in the second half of 1300-х.
Waiting for the game!
13:09 I might be wrong but there might norse religion in canada since there are a bit of grey parts . or just some other type of totemism .
yeah exactly, I saw it too
nah norse didn't settle there, looks Inuit or maybe Dorset
Vinlander playthrough would be wild
I’m bouta do the Norse reconquista if it’s like that
@@johnnygreenface -1 stab on declaration of war because I have no enemies
Hey Ludi, Love your vids, i watch every one. Little Histrory note 16:34 It is not Joseon yet King Taejo overthew Goryeo in 1392 and changed the name from Goryeo to Joseon in 1393
Looking at the tiles you can also tell that Caspian Sea will be a little bit more important than it is in EU4. Maybe we will be able to build Caspian Sea fleet LOL
Strigolnichestvo is Orthodox heresy that started in Pskov, something like lollard, against church hierarchy. In Russian it sounds like Strigolniki - Стригольники
great video But I hope you do more playthroughs.
got the last part of my venice run next, got up to 25k income lol xD
25k ducats monthly that is
13:00 The blue in eastern North America would be Mississippian religious area.
Cahokia would still be around until the mid-14th century. I'm curious to see what they'll do with that.
WOW, its my first time see whole world map
i also have 950 hours in EU4 and 1200 in HOI4
I think that the purple colour on the religion map mode represents the "Krstjani" branch of Christianity, because it was exclusively practiced in Bosnia, whereas Bogomilism was practiced in various places.
Did you just say that it doesn't have massive production maintenance when it is using paper?
Love that Calvin Mechanic that sounds so random that it might just be awesome.
The two religions in "Yugoslavia" are probably Bogomilism (smaller pink) and Krstjani (larger lavender.)
Krstjani being the Bosnian Church which had a schism with Rome over their differences and the Bogomils being primarily Vlach refugee communities who had fled other parts of the Balkans when Bogomilism was deemed heresy and they we're expelled.
So about Jainism, one of it's core tenets is ahimsa(non violence) towards everyone. This is the reason they refuse to intentionally hurt any human, animal or insect and which is why they cannot eat non vegetarian food or food grown underground and they tend to drink boiled water and have strict rules of eating before dusk. I like how developers made so jainism cannot attack without cb because that would be kinda realistic for a religion that puts such heavy stress on not hurting anyone.
Why is southeast brazil considered as impassable? Those lands are easily liveable
It got colonised really later, but you cant compare with the amazon that is really impassable
I dont know anything about that area, maybe it was a massive jungle back in those days?
it was a large forest / jungle at the coast but It is followed by plains, making it very weird of a choice
Keep that thought, when the tinto maps for South America drops you can recommend it to them to fix it
I do think impassable is too much, but tbf south east brazil was all jungle, often mountain jungles even, we basically had no grasslands the way Europe or North America have.
I'm from Rio btw, we just cleared all of it.
I am a little sad that again Europe and its tiles are huge comparatively to the rest of the world. I know it kind of has to if they want to show all the HRE nations, but it’s always been a gripe of mine with eu4.
In bosnia, the purple spot is bogomolism (you can see another spot in the mountains of greece), the big greyblue color is krstjani. The bosnian church being considered bogomils isn't an accepted thing in scholarship anymore so they just call them what they called themselves.
Those colors in the far east of Siberia may be the Inuit-Yupik religions of the Inuit of the Arctic North America, and the Yupik of Alaska and Siberia.
Strigolnichestvo or Strigolniki are basically equivalent to hussites but in Russia, they are pre-protestant religious movement that stood against at a time current religious establishment and practices like fees.
I am soo freaking excited for this game my early Christmas wish is please let it eb released soon :'D. Also Cheers Ludi I appreciate you making content, keep it going and congrats on that 200k man
Thank you kind sir
Look at Caspian sea :)
The desert thing is really cool, maybe you can recreate the Garamantes?
25:31 I think that's supposed to be Waldensian, which was present in Bohemia and often associated with the later introduction of Wycliffe's teachings that subsequently influenced Hussitism.
Must be. Was looking at a list of different declared heresies, but Waldensian is one of the "bigger" candidates. Probably useful for some strange achievment later: Take France and Rome and make Waldensian majority religion, something like that. :P
In the Tinto Maps about France, they said something about not portrayed Catholic heresies yet, and Waldensians were not mentioned on the Christians faith list. I also think thet if they were to add Waldensians, it would make more sense to be around Provence and Savoy during this period wouldn't it? Like what others said, it's probably Judaism, since the same color appears in Ethiopia
Really looks like we have the Oasis states in the Sahara. I don't think they'd be fun to play as, but interesting to see what looks like to be them.
Largest city in the world in Sahara desert by 1387
The calvinist thing means that alt-f4ing and redoing the battle won't change the dice roll. Presumably the seed is loaded on initial game generation but takes in enough inputs that every battle will have unique dice rolls but redoing the battle will have the same result as the inputs are the same (unless you change it last second like add a discipline advisor [eu4 analogy]) very funny.
i m not a Jain but i m indian and i know somewhat about them, since i m not a jain i cannot entirely tell what they stan for and represent. But from my learnings their main moto amd message is, all life is precious, and every living being has a right to live, and we must respect all life and not kill any. Therfore they they dont eat any form of meat, and about the things that grow underground, it is becuz when you harvest carrots or root vegetables, you end up killing the plant for it's the food. But they can eat fruits which does not kill or harm the tree that grows it. hope this information helps.
The Green color in North America would be the religion of Algonquian tribes and the dark yellow color would be the religion of Iroquoian peoples. Maybe the blue color in the southern USA is some sort of grouping for some kind of Mississippian Culture religion.
I really hope I can do an England Lollard playthrough
Can we talk about how great the new map projection looks!
Having played a lot of Imperator Rome recently, I'm noticing a lot of very similar mechanics.
The h in Náhuatl is silent, and the first syllable is the stressed one
Dharmic should cover Hinduism, different types of Buddhism, Jainism and Sikhism when it pops up
That golden/brown color in north america is probably representing the Iroquois nation (so mohawk and the like). I'm interested to see wich religion they have compared to the rest of Québec's natives.
This is really looking like a game if crusader kings and Europa had a love child and I'm all for it
Hypothesis : the blue patch in bohemia is orthodox, and it is different color from orthodox because it is an isolated residual patch with slavon culture
What are you talking about?
So, that bit in Bohemia might be Conciliarism. If that's a day 1 religion map that feels a little early, but maybe not. I need to do a deeper dive into the Bohemian Reformation but i do know that a fairly significant amount of the area was fairly critical of the Papacy even pre Jan Hus.
damn Ludi, you didnt talk about Sami Shamanism :D
I was afraid from ck3 to feel barren and it was ok.
From seeing these tinto talks, especially this religion talk, I guess we can be pretty relaxed about project ceasar. they really want to create a masterpiece.
The christianity in Bosnia you saw is the Krisijani as you saw it in the dev diary plus it's the same religion as in CK3
I think having Buddhists be in majority in the region of Sindh might be a oversight by the team.
According to the map Inti only exists in Cusco, this could mean quite a bit. Either they want to add more Andean faiths, or they’re trying to show that neighboring faiths weren’t the exact same.
5:13 The +10 refers to 10 pops being converted each month.
This game is like all their games into one its seeming insanely fun and hopefully not to confusing lol
14:08 the religion in Bosnia that you are referring to is actually what the game calls "krjstiani" religion a.k.a. the Bosnian church, I don't know a lot about it but apparently was a form of catholicism that was declared erethic from both catholics and orthodox, the pink bit that's bogomilism
Yep, their own thing, neither catoholic nor orthodox. They had their own hierarchy that wasn't based off of either Constantinople or Rome. The head of the church carried the title "Grandfather" lol
19:52 the old way of the nomads if the han converts you convert. like a giant tribe if leader does something his people do it to or rebel.
14:14 that big purple one is probably Kristanji, with the bright pink being Bogomilist
Finally the Caspian Sea looks navigable like it should be.
Paradox is going to release the game as Europa Universalis Infinitum or something just to spite everyone ignoring the 'Project Caesar' thing.
great video!
14:56 This is actually animist, most likely due to the Ainu population. The reds are pretty similar though so i dont blame you
Why was zoroastrian and nestorian completely missing from the map??? HUH
I'm still baffled at how EU4 has Anatolia as Muslim despite the Greeks being the majority in the coastline even until the early 20th century 😂
I wonder how they are going to balance the natives of the new world because in EU4 they can get pretty annoying even within 50 years, now imagine them having 150 years. IRL a lot of the times Europeans would just settle an area enough and that forced the natives to move, often times forcefully assimilate or they (Europeans) would fight the Natives and nothing really would happen so in game that means not a lot of AE actually happened IRL. They just didn't have the population to fight back due to diseases like small pox and weren't a unified people to care enough that their neighboring tribe got wiped out or close to wiped out. A lot of the times, they even helped the Europeans to wipe out their neighbors.
And then as a player you need to be able to have the ability to fight back somehow while also not being able to unite both North and South America even before the Europeans arrive in the mid to late 1400's for basically free.
Considering plagues are a thing in EU5 you probally see that to nerf the natives.
@cromancer3219 Yeah Leviathan absolutely destroyed colonization. No Natives mod was mandatory for me after that
There are epidemics, so I imagine AI natives will get hit really hard. Adds a challenge for players playing as them and a buff for players playing as colonial nations.
Ludi, take a look at the Caspian Sea. Caspean Sea fleets confirmed? Why else would it have those tiles?
I really hope they don't rush it. This game could make or break their entire reputation. If they kill their flagship series, I struggle to see how they will return
14:16 Shouldn't the biger blob be Krstjani and the small (pink?) one Bogomilism?
The Blue in North America is for the Mississippian chiefdoms and I must say the borders for it look pretty good! Also some of the blue dots in Iran are apparently Zoroastrian! As I'm sure you've heard by now, the map is VERY WIP so the Animists in South America and Africa will be expanded and shown as different ones eventually!
The Inti religion is probably not there because the Kingdom of Cuzco was only founded in 1438, and the religion originates from there. It will be born after an event and give significant bonuses to the initial expansion, considering that the Inca Empire grew so huge in barely 100 years.
Who would've thought March of the Eagles II would go global!
I am very happy with what they are doing so far. It really seems to me that the game will not end up like Vic 3. Super excited but lets see
I just can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I looked at the map and heard the fact that there will be ck3 like character interaction and can feel my pc make late game Stellaris noises!
It'd be awesome to add additional routes in the ocean in-between europe and new world but these routes have to be found by colonist countries via events or something and then other countries can steal the route to unlock it just like stealing maps in eu4.
Omg Romuvan, did i saw Romuvan (or vidilists?) not "pagan", i will be playing it 24/7