More importantly for me I never encountered dialogue options that didn't offer a choice I would WANT to say. It was always appropriate for me, and I think I am not a well represented type of person in games. It is an astounding achievement. Black Isle/Bioware D&D games were always good about that and Larian was faithful to their pedigree.
It honestly is crazy. I might be wrong but I think BG3 both has the largest quantity of voice acted lines, and the highest quality of voice acted lines of any video game. And I think that’s a series underrated aspect that adds to your immersion.
And unlike Starfield, the conversations are supremely animated and lip synced. Like, you can see Larian's passion for this project throughout. There are still bugs and glitches, but Larian is the one fixing them. I give Bethesda maybe six months of halfheartedly patching Starfield before they move on and leave it in the hands of the modders like they always do.
@@micmack1006I think they are on par with Dragon Age Origins, there are lots of voicelines there as well. However, sometimes the voice acting is not on point. Still, it's also a masterpiece, try it out if you liked BG3
I remember a couple of times where one of the lines was obviously as re-recording. Same voice actor, but it seemed like it was recorded at a different day because the tone didn’t follow from one reply to the next. But it only happened like 3 times
Might have to do a check-up on your information. The leadership at Arcane studio's wanted to make Redfall a live service many years ago.....not Xbox. How the hell do you get basic article knowledge that wrong or did you just randomly come up with something that would suit?
I don't agree with everything in the video, well I don't think that game producers are doing anything wrong.. they are just reacting to the market. If market wants games with microtransactions then that's what they will produce. Companies are not in charge of the market, it's the customers! Company just releases a product (game) and they judge the success of it by looking at the sales: good sales = good game, bad sales = bad game (change design). That's it, it's up to the market forces to determine what sort of games are being produced, it's not up to the devs. If for some reason market changed and microtransactions doesn't sell anymore then they are forced by the market to design different types of games, so if anything, you have to blame the market (or customers) not the companies
The fact Nintendo got Tears of the kingdom to work on a cellphone chip, but third party AAA developers cant get their smaller game to work on a 3090 shows that AAA studios don't have the talent they used to.
Any Dev's that don't want to step up to the new bar set by BG3 need to find a new career. Simple as that! The era of subpar over priced AAA games has to come to an end.
Sometimes it's not the Devs fault, it's the Corpos making them rush the development and not giving them enough time to optimize. Look at how Cyberpunk got working on PS4 when they finally worked on it
@@safs3098 Yup you're correct, in a AAA company the devs are rarely if ever to blame because they don't make all the important decision they "just" make the game. That leads to greedy and poor decision making by the execs that just want money but don't know jack shit about games or why people like them. The fact that most of these poorly launched games get "fixed" with patches is proof that the devs actually do know how to make games but they don't have the time to.
@@safs3098Erm.. i don't think we should be defending devs that much. Pokémon Sword/Shield, Overwatch 2 these games spent years in development and turned out to be bare minimum upgrade from their previous versions, and had people on the writing teams who wrote garbage plots and worldbuilding, had actual people working on textures who did a shit job, had people working on systems that made super boring and unfun gameplay.... you can't go to work to work on something for 3-6 years and hand in garbage and say oh it's not good because corpo rushed me. It's not an excuse. Some of these devs ARE GARBAGE.
Baldur’s Gate 3 definitely reminded me of my love for video games again. Genuinely thought I was getting too old for them, but I now understand games have just been dog shit for the last decade.
Same man same . I just started bg3 yesterday and I felt like a kid again playing the game and exploring around. I even took my sweet time in character customization and reading the benefits of different attributes . The only other game that made me feel that way was Elden ring .
Try playing some Indie Games. Their 100x better because their not needing to follow the same formula for years and years because they worked before. And the devs are the same people playing the games so they know what people will enjoy. And unlike AAA companies their sole purpose isn't always to get rich since often they just want to make their dream game. Great examples of this are probably Stardew Valley or Hollow Knight to name the big ones.
True many of us felt like the reason for not enjoying most games is because we got old but then something like this comes and you realise the entertainment industry just got a lot worse.
Also important to note that with the FF14 Endwalker release, Yoshi-P released a public statement detailing why the problems were happening, and immediately took full blame and asked for forgiveness from the players. He did this without shifting the blame around or making excuses. Humility and not treating customers like they're morons, it isn't hard.
Damn right preach! It's upsetting when we hear lies instead of truth. The game companies should be upfront instead of trying to pretend that they are infallible... I believe there would be more money to be made with the values that we all recognize deep within us... If I see this in companies, I want to support it and am willing to close an eye to their imperfections due to pure heart.
For the past few months of playing wow I thought I've become too old or lost interest in playing videogames because I would always fall asleep while playing it. But when I started playing Baldur's Gate 3 I find myself playing for hours not realizing I've been playing all night till 5 in the morning.
Yes. Bought early access a couple of weeks before release. Before I knew it I was lost in the game, and only realized that hours had past when the birds started chirping outside. Not had that since childhood almost.
It turns me back to feeling like a kid when I had no responsibilities. Except now I have responsibilities 😭 Game is too good. Turning me into an addict.
Same. I get home from work around 4pm, start playing at 6pm and next when I look at the clock it's 1am and it feels like I've been playing for an hour. Absolutely amazing feeling. Not very healthy, but god damn did I miss it.
Ive never played a Larian game. Ive dont like turn-based combat. Ive never played D&D. I bought Baldurs Gate 3 due to peer pressure and its the only game ive played since I bought it. It is insanely good and astonishes me every way I turn.
If you do get tired of it at some point, I can recommend Divinity Original Sin 2. It's also a Larian game, which functions a bit like BG3. It does lack the amazing cutscenes, but it also has origin characters as well as the capability to make your own unique character. The music in DOS2 is imho, even better than in BG3. The story and characters are also really good. The freedom of choice is also there. And the game is just immensely beautiful. Instead of the DnD rules for combat, they have their own system. Disabling effects can only be used when either magical armor, or physical armor is depleted (the same type of armor needs to be removed for that type of effect). And that game has greater synergies between elements, in the sense that having a wet target is a HUGE buff to frost and electric attacks, while oil and gas amplify explosions and fire. But more than anything, DOS2 has that same clear passion showing through as BG3 and elden ring. It clearly gives the same vibe that the people who made the game, truly loved making it.
I suggest you give Divinity: Original Sin 2 a go after BG3, it's also by Larian, their very own IP in fact, while not giving you the same kind of freedom BG3 does, its mechanics and story are great.
I can agree. Turn-based tactic games turn me away sometimes. I've read reviews and tried a few, but got bored and aggravated with the waiting and losing ppl from misplacement or everyone gang up on 1 person. Not saying I won't play them, that just the biggest issues I have with those type of games
Baulder's Gate 3 is what I thought all videogames were going towards as a kid just thinking about it got me excited like Christmas Eve at 6 years old. Boy was I wrong.
I remember as a kid my teacher explained to me the whole 'currency of goodwill' thing. When I was late on a paper and had a good excuse, it didn't matter because I had been late so many times and always had an excuse. While I was upset because this time I really couldn't help it - it didn't matter because I had already used up all that goodwill on my homework before. It's the same way here, if a studio keeps putting out unfinished trash . . . no one is going to care when they have a legitimate reason for a delay or poor performance.
Let me put it this way. BG3 sucked me into the story and my characters in less than 30 minutes. The world around me and the people I talked to offered me stories and problems to solve that actually made me consider my morals and the different implications of each outcome. Full world exploration wasn’t shoved in my face, but was heavily encouraged from the interactions I had had by just going off the beaten path even just a little bit. Quests and battles aren’t easy, and actually make you think about the best way to solve them, until you get the hang of the game and start looking tactically at not only your characters but also the environment. The game assumes you’re not a idiot and knows not to waste your time by constantly giving you character progression and interesting problems, and if none of those things interest you, don’t do them. You can miss companions completely if you don’t care, or you could find more than you bargained for by just looking a little bit. It’s a great game. The only one I’ve even wanted to play over the last 2 weeks, and tbh newer games are nowhere on my radar. I could keep going. The music. The voice acting. It’s all great. Spend the money. You deserve this game.
Ever since I played Paper Mario as a kid back in 2000/2001 I've hated and avoided turn based combat games. I seriously thought it was the most boring thing ever for well over 20 years, but all of this was until I played BG3 or like 2 hours. I've now clocked in over 80 hours and I only just finished chapter 1. Regardless of how bad I honestly do feel for all the Devs slaving their lives away to make shit games, I'm dead serious when I say I'll never look at a video game the same way ever again after this.
Yeah, there was a few events early on where i actually sat there for 5 minutes trying to decide what decision i want to make. Thats when i knew this game was going to be good. Instead of most games where you are railroaded and your "choices" are just a laundry list you complete one after the other, BG3 actually has meaningful choices that shape the world around you. Truly an incredible experience.
Thats arguable why FromSoftware games always feels so satisfying to play and beat. They trust the player to be smart enough to figure things out on their own without holding their hand and throwing things in their face constantly to play their game the way the devs want you to. It's a video game where we're actually in control playing a game not being railed onto a directed experience.
@@robinjonk I haven't played BG3 yet, but the best TB combat games I've played are JA2 (both the base game as well as the fan patch) and Battle Brothers (brutal). Final Fantasy Tactics with the fan patch is probably pretty good but I didn't play it very long.
@@bt8593 Let your friends and family know you are going to be unavailable for the next few weeks before you do start playing. Hands down one of the most enjoyable games I have played in my life. Whether you like turn based combat or not really doesn't matter. The combat in the game is very fulfilling(and you can skip a ton of it if you want) and the story/characters are simply amazing. The only thing I can say I did not like is they should let you know, in some way, that when you are nice to a companion it will very likely mean you are trying to romance that companion at the same time. It seems like you say something to the effect of "cheer up buddy" and they take it as "i want to see you naked". Other than that, I don't see how anyone could not enjoy this game... immensely.
Eldenring was like someone blowing a foghorn to wake you up. Baldur's gate 3 was like someone giving you a hard slap across your face then dunking your head in cold water just to wake up from the complacency and this count for the consumer, the developers and the publishers.
@Regden1000 Somehow I seriously doubt either of those things. I have played and beaten Elden Ring. Needed a lot of work to be a true master work. It definitely had a lot of problems but it was an enjoyable enough game. Seriously disagree with this guy in the video though. It's world design is not great. Not even close. It is a souls game in an open world environment but that open world, while quite beautiful, is actually very tacked on. And a modern isometric RPG is nothing new and BG3 is definitely no Planescape Torment or even Baldur's Gate 2. I think the isometric style needs to evolve into a full on third person or first person RPG with all the great writing and direction of CRPGs. Except the millennial writing in modern games. Seriously needs to stop. When we get a full blown AAA first or third person game with amazing gameplay, excellent world crafting and exploration, and the quality writing of great CRPG's that is when we will have a real wake up call. At least for western RPGs.
@@gamersinger5118 I'm not a huge fan of Elden Ring either but I can still admit that the game provides sufficient value. By the time the cracks start to show in Elden Ring, I had gotten my $60 worth. No I wouldn't play it again, no I didn't even finish the game, but it was still worth my time and money.
@@Gabe7Gal Oh no argument from me there. The game definitely has value. Just because I do not consider it a masterpiece does not mean I don't consider it to be worth the price of the game. I got plenty of enjoyment out of it and most would. It may be full of flaws but it is still a very fun game especially to the specific consumers it targets.
Elden ring blew my mind when I faced General Radahn, but then completely underwhelmed me on every other aspect. They kind of ruined my enjoyment with so many retread bosses, boring bland dungeons, no enjoyable deep characters. It was meh, fine but not great
BG3 is the first game, in a very long time, that made me laugh so hard I actually choked on my own spit, cry so hard I needed to grab the tissues, and scream out loud multiple times as well as feel like the world melted away and didn't matter so much. It has it's bugs, for sure, but because of the care they obviously put into it and the vast scope as well as the rate they're rolling out the patches and hotfixes and listening to their fanbase without crumbling under us--this game is truly a masterpiece and the experience as a whole has felt like a once-in-a-lifetime thing. Larian has earned our trust; I hope other companies have learned from their model. Put the game out into Early Access, let the players that want to help you through the early stages and beta it for a price, give them a say and "make them feel important" and then release it in a way more polished state than many games are coming out in these days. Were there some sections that were hinky? Oh yeah, Act 3 has some sections that were buggy. But we are forgiving because Larian was so upfront and transparent with us.
@@BRZno86 you didn't notice because there's no such thing as woke stuff. There's bad writing and good writing. There's people preaching at you and there's people opening up a scenario that makes you understand nuanced topics. If you don't notice woke things (X-Men and several large IPs are woke af and always have been) it's because you generally don't disagree with it on its face. I get the frustration but the outrage over "wokeness" is just political bullshit and word appropriation for the sole purpose of outrage baiting.
@@shama-llamading-dong5370no no, we can do it on older games too. The difference is, back then, there is no terms like woke. Everyone think its just great to have this many opportunities/possibilities, not gender-limited.
@@ramonandrajo6348 you can consider 2 things in the game as "woke", if you want to: 1. you can make a genderswapped char, a male identifiing as female and whatever floats your boat. but this will never be a topic during the game. if someone does that and streams his game after char creation, noone would notice if the streamer doesn't tell you. 2. you can romance every companion with whatever char you created without trouble. no matter if male, female or anything in between, the romance options is always the same for each and every char but you can still choose to ignore them, if you don't like that. so if you don't like gay content, you just choose to not do them. there can be an argument made that it is unrealistic, that every companion gets the hots for everything and you are right about that but in the end it is a SP game and noone realy cares. the game itself is great, the story is great and that is what matters. everyone is free to ignore the woke stuff. I personaly don't believe in 3+ genders and don't like gay content, so I ignored it and have fun with the game. if someone wants to be a queer person with female body and a large, pink beard, romancing any char because they like them, they don't ruin my game by doing this in their own. In fact, BG3 proves to the film industry that woke stuff was never the problem, but writing a good story is. noone cares if the protagonist is a bi poc but they do care, when the story is horseshit. and that is what most, if not all woke stories tend to be.
@@ramonandrajo6348 it is also the first time someone calls BG3 a woke, poorly written game. at least I can give an explanation. something others seem unable to do, yourself included. I have a feeling, that this wont change so I wish a nice day regardless and bid my farewell
As an HVAC installer. I can only imagine what would happen if I complained and got upset because a customer was upset that after installation, their AC or heat didn’t work better than their old system…
See the thing with this new model is that the thing with the Old model different from the new one and the company has a new manufacturer they buy from so the thing is that with the thing
Lol ya you'd be fucked, I dont get it game Devs are a unique breed. I do non game dev and although we do have have periods of long hours, it's part of the job and I know I'd be selfish to even think I work on avg more than my buddy in hvac; dude will call me on some roof in a snow storm at 9pm....or cooking in 100+ in the summer. It's disrespectful for those Devs to even complain, let alone use that bs as an excuse. If game sucks maybe they should have worked more effectively.
@@PoopSockJohnson Well it’s one thing if it works the SAME. But the new models are supposed to be more energy efficient, so even if it works the same it should be cheaper to run at least. By that logic, all these new games coming out should be like $30 instead of rising to $70
BG3 had a Hotfix that went live and then rolled back in the middle of people's play sessions, making all post hotfix progress unloadable. BG3 is so fucking good that no one complained because we knew Larian would fix it (they did) AND because the game is so choice-heavy Hotfix 4 gave me a reason to try out different paths. The trust Larian has is crazy and well-deserved.
The thing is companies had smaller budgets, less people, and less time but they still made fully developed great games. Now with better technology, easier to use tools, and infinite budget by comparison they can't make a complete fun game.
@@Drakon332x warcraft 3, starcraft 1, diablo 2 to name only blizzard itself. Diablo 2 took 3 years, "The Diablo II team comprised three main groups: programming, character art (everything that moves), and background art (everything that doesn't move), with roughly a dozen members each" and i don't think i need to talk about budget to prove my point further. diablo 2 was a finished game, fully developped with great easter eggs and details. Now whether it is great or not is subjective i guess, but imo it was. In contrast d4 is 10 years of developped and around 10k people working on it for a gigantic and pathetic mess.
@@xelinco3005 How are you going to mention games that were far smaller in scope, back when tech was far more limited, and therefore easier to code as examples? lol. I agree I like those games more than most today, but you can't even compare those to the types of games coming out now. Unless you want to talk about the remasters of 2 of those games, which I refuse to acknowledge their existence...Wait..Shit..
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken dude, making games is easier now than back then. You have plenty assets to use for free, plenty tutorials on yt but somehow it's harder?! lol
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Even if it was true, if the scope is too Big for them the failure IS still on them. i can also just say the witcher 3. It is 8years old now.
I love how the people who made BG3 actually look like the people who would play it. They look just like my Warhammer group. Bungie used to look like that.
I really love games in general that you could EASILY tell they were made with love. HiFi Rush, Elden Ring, Resident Evil, It Takes Two, Hollow Knight, Omori, Yakuza 0, Dave the Diver, and more Are all games where i could personally feel like the devs put work towards making the experience wonderful for their fans. Even if they may not compete with the sheer perfection of BG3, they were able to build a solid community. And that, i believe, is what is more important in gaming.
@@damasterpiece08 absolutely yes. It's also one of the best VR games of all time. If you like sandbox games, it's actually really amazing. If you like looting or base building or just freewheeling it like any GTA playthrough, there's a lot of value here. The fun is that there have been so many updates by now that you can just switch tasks seamlessly if you get bored. Ship collecting, good piracy options, destroying sentinals, dogfighting, treasure hunting, farming, exploration, coop, undersea exploration, mech warfare, etc etc etc. All free updates.
@@damasterpiece08 yep. The launch is definitely botched. However the redemption arc is incredible. They didn't blame the fans, didn't say weird thing and instead go back to work and fix what they can. Instead of word they show results. And the fix is fully free, even beyond what you can expect from a free update
I'm waiting on a dev to come out and just say what we all know to be the case: "We don't make good games because our corporate overlords and their investor buddies won't allow us to. Games aren't about having fun anymore they're just another avenue to make the most money whilst doing the least amount of work possible. *IF* you have fun playing our trash then that's just an added unintended bonus for you, but that's not the design." Edit: primarily AAA devs not so much indie and AA studios.
Nobody has the balls to do so especially with the fear of non-disclosure agreements within their contracts which is why you usually don’t hear that until AFTER the fact (they leave said company)
@@tyeberiusmcintyre1879if the product at your job is ass how much agency do you have to change that? None...yup just like the dude at EA hating his life cranking out shit content just to not get fired.
@@herpiegerbstick6808 they could work elsewhere or make games solo. people blame execs and shareholders because 'all they care about is money' but the only reason devs are cranking out this garbage is because the same goes for them. none of them from the top to the bottom actually give half a damn about releasing a decent game. they are no better or worse than their "corporate overlords".
asmon has spent so much time reacting to baldur's gate 3 content that if he spent that time playing the game on stream he might have gotten halfway through act 1 by now.
I havent even finished the game yet but I've got three different playthroughs running that I'm playing differenlty. My first one is just do whatever i feel like in the moment and its my furthest one. Second one I'm playing Dark Urge and half-resisting half-accepting. My third one I'm planning to be all-out chaotic evil and side with the worst people I can find. It's crazy how many different routes you can play through this game and still get an interesting story lmao
@@scruffytlr789 Yeah its kind of insane how dense the content is lmao I just started act 3 proper and am already overwhelmed as hell at how many different things there are everywhere.
@@MysticLukaact 3 is culmination of act 1 & 2. More investment u put on those 2 acts, then ur act 3 would be more rewarding. Even after hearing what everyone said, I don't feel disappointed for act 3 at all in my current playthrough. It is fun so far, since my previous 2 act, I explore every corner I can found.
@@MysticLuka i remember that, it was crazy after consuming all of act 1 and 2, only to see how you still have such a massive amount of content left in front of you.
I bought the early access to BG3 and thoroughly enjoyed it and looked forward to the full game. The voice actors were great. I had never heard of the guy that did Raphael’s voice. He completely sold that character and outside of Astarion I think he was the best voice in the game.
The reason why the big gaming companies want to criticize elden Ring and baldur's gate 3, is because it proves that they're being lazy with their game development, and they're afraid that if they don't speak out on it they're going to get exposed and they won't be able to be lazy anymore. I've just resolved myself for not buying anything unless it's a souls game or a small not AAA title.
I just don’t buy anything based on hype or expectations I wait for the masses to buy it and if i think it’s worth it i pick it up a week late Save a lot of money this way 😂
Dev being lazy have nothing to do with games being bad, in fact the games which went through intense crunch and overwork their staffs tend to be the ones that came out poorly, development hell usually come from poor management. This "AAA devs are lazy" idea is a myth built on the lack of understanding of how games are actually made.
It's not about laziness and this detracts from the real issues plaguing the industries which is the people who actually run the company gimping their developers. Sonic is a perfect example of this. Pretty much every Sonic game for the past decade or more has been on a rushed development cycle which doesn't give the devs enough time to actually fully develop the great ideas they have.
Yeah, but if gamers are gonna cry about it or about scummy gaming practices while not caring about how the company they are supporting mistreats workers then stop complaining. It’s just annoyingly hypocritical for someone to cry day in and day out about terrible monetization but not how devs are treated.
i get what you’re saying, but you can only really control your own feelings around things. people are going to complain about things and demand things that workers and businesses can’t provide at the moment and maybe might move the needle on it, but you can just avoid being assmad about it and enjoy the fruits of their labor while also enjoying the trash that exists while living in the moment. trying to educate them to want less is against your interests and a waste of time when you can eat popcorn.
So many players buy into the company line of "we have to do [x] to make a profit". If your games are so expensive to make and still turn out shit, your company deserves to fail. _Period._ It is not the consumer's problem. We buy, _YOU_ sell. That's how it works.
I didnt think id like baldurs gate 3, i fell for the hype. It deserved the hype, i cant believe how good gameplay is. Ive never really enjoyed conversation gameplay, but thia game friggin nails it. Its shocking. The amount of stuff in this game is mind boggling.
What has been frustrating as someone who has enjoyed RPGs since I could read, is seeing the dialogue options disappear over time. Fallout 3 has a ton of different dialogue options, but most are just a way of expressing your character but lead to the same outcome. Fallout 2 had far more options and outcomes for dialogue. But the streamlining of RPGs has usually boiled down important player choices to four options "Yes." "Yes, but mean." "Repeat what you just said" and "I'll talk to you later".
@@haru2966 Western games don't get a pass: dese*ualizing characters, political correctness, censorship, you name it. Larian just doesn't give a f*** about any of it - how controversial was the bear scene? Great publicity.
If you like sea of Stars you really owe it to yourself to play chained echoes. Some other incredible games you might not have heard of which came out recently - Moonscars and blasphemous 2.
I played two hours of Baldur’s Gate 3 and when I had to get off and get ready for bed and laying in bed I think I had my first sensation of a nicotine addiction I was itching to get back on. I almost called in just to get back on. I’ve never played a DND game or even had the slightest experience with it and I was in love just like that. I’ve never felt like this about a game for a long time and can’t wait to edit the clips and share my first REAL DND experience from someone who’s barley wipe the steam off the glass to look inside.
Im almost 300 hours into this game, on my second playthrough. Making a point to be extra thorough this time and experience as much as possible, and yet im STILL missing a good amount of content. Theres just so much to this game
@devinloew7681 Just wonderful. Video game addiction comes and goes thankfully. Appreciate your concern, but I'm not mad about it. Good games are worth putting time into. (: I actually work for a living, imagine how much time a streamer could put into this game
@robertfishburn8545 Damn, I'm more jealous than anything. I used to be able to put in that kind of time before full-time work. Now I'm lucky if I can game for 8 hours on a weekend night. Glad to hear you're enjoying your time with the game!
I just started over again because I''ve just been throwing stuff at the wall and sees what sticks. I just realized like 5 minutes into the game I can switch out the spell book whenever I"m not in combat. I feel so stupid.
The last act of BG3 gets a pass because it's not quite as... fucking incredible as acts 1 and 2. Going down from a 10 to an 8 out of 10 for your last act isn't shitting the bed or fumbling the ball at the last minute. It's still great and the more you engaged with extra nonsense through the first 2 the more there is for you in the 3rd, rewarding the invenstment of your time.
I feel it is exactly that ! Im taking so much time playing through the game and I ve heard that the last act was not that good. It was long at first but now things are starting to fall together and it is insane
i wanna play it because i just want to look at the players and environment. It looks so good but i can’t afford it so maybe in a few years it’ll be on sale
I just wanted to point out something that is very important to consider here and mainly focusing on the fact that at least we should still care about the processes. Around 7:30, Asmon starts going off about how videogames are made, and the video also talks about we should "JUST" care about the end product. I think it is also important to understand the work that is being done and the processes around it. You can't just say you only care about the product because you hear the same complaints after the fact the product is launched. The companies who really care about their client base tempers this expectation by showing you that they care, that they meticulously ensure that the standards are being met, and the mission/vision is still aligned down to the very lowest role in the company. I've been in healthcare for a decade now, I understand this is a totally different field but hear me out. We follow a LEAN concept where we avoid "defects" from ever reaching the client. There's a whole thing about "continuous improvement process", the "toyota way" etc, but I don't want to go off on that. It focuses on VALUE, but sustained process of delivering VALUE. Now lives are what we're talking about here and I get that healthcare is more critical in this field. But apply that same concept here in gaming, aren't lives also being affected here? You spent X exuberant hours playing a game, and then you complain that a certain game sucks. Now can you get that amount of time back? I think we have to start treating creating videogames with the same amount of dedication and care in making them. We should also start recognizing and putting these developers as the benchmark, who continues to deliver games and treats previous experiences. Putting previous projects in a PDSA cycle and continues to improve year in year out. This is why we keep seeing the same mistakes, the weird "silo'ed" work, as if the other teams within that company has not already resolved the issues that others are facing. Bottomline, we have to care about the process, we have to care about who we support. Do you just buy a product just as a finished product and not care about the process? Global warming, overly processed foods, carcinogens come to mind when we just blindly want a "product" and not care about how it was made.
I didn't want to play baldurs gate 3 because of the turn base mechanics and because I am not a fan of fantasy. But after playing for 100+ hours now it's the best game I've ever played. Nothing comes close to this, this game is an evolution 10 steps forward.
Divinity 3 was my last effort and upon first browse it looks like it. I couldnt get into it. I'm hoping I will this one. xmas day purchase Im thinking...@@TOMMYDiG1TAL
Here is a very simple question for AAA studios. "Can you make a game as good as BG3?" If the answer is "Yes." my next question would be: "Well, then why you don't do so?" If their answer is "No." my next question would be: "Then why should I give you 70 bucks?"
Because you will give them 70 bucks. As well as millions of others. So long as their games sell, companies will make them. They don't run a charity, they run a business.
"Audience doesn't care oh that day it was raining so the shot wasn't good. Audience walk into cinema - good movie, bad movie, that's it." - Jackie Chan
@@cold_static Same mindset as Miyamoto in his quote about delaying games. I'm glad Nintendo still has that goodwill and they have been doing a good job maintaining it. Everyone else especially Ubi I won't buy if it is on a platform I can refund.
As much as these aaa devs want us to pity their working conditions, interviews from the larian guys seems to show that they love their job and have huge pride in their product.... and it shows.
being nearly 600 hours into BG3 and have yet to see it all, I can only say that I've waited years for such a replayable, fun game that is worth the pricetag! If only other Devs would invest this much time and effort into bringing a good game, instead of microtransactions.
The fact that you can play this game for YEARS down the line, unlike a lot of the live service trash we get nowadays is insane to me. And it shouldn't be. Because that's literally how a game SHOULD be.
Asmons point about apologies was spot on. Because the apologies that hit home are the studios that apologize with ACTIONS. Words are cheap .. Everyone understands that sometimes bad decisions are made. And need to be unmade. But these days AAA every bad decision is sitting on 10 more bad decisions and they are afraid if they fix one bad decision you'll ask them to fix them all and the shareholders won't like that no siree!
Midway through act 3 with 130 hours and the game exceeded all my expectations. Its got good plot, gameplay, visuals, and TONS of content/volume. I havent enjoyed an rpg fantasy game this much since Dragon Age Origins maybe. Just amazing and i cant wait to see what playing another class feels like and making different choices in a new playthrough.
It’s very simple: when devs (the people, not the studios) are empowered to make the decisions, we get good games. When business execs make the decisions, we get Diablo Immortal
exactly this, you need the people in charge to love gaming, and the people developing the game to actually play the game. How can you expect to write a good book or compose a good song if you dont enjoy reading or music. i think the best possible situation is a studio like larian. Theyre privately owned so they dont need to bow to the whims of shareholders, but the guy that owns that private company is a huge nerd, especially when it comes to games. Companies are designed by nature to be top down, and if the guys at the very top dont give a shit about games, it becomes very apparent at every single level of development.
Baulders Gate has given me a joy that i havent felt since Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 and 2. Its given me a world to sink my teeth into and explore every nook and cranny that the world has to offer
UI matters quite a bit. It can turn a good fun game into a chore if you have bad UI. Bad UI will also take away from immersion. Those details listed around 14m are important, and can make a huge difference.
I’ve never even played a CRPG before. BG3 was my first one and I’ve played for over 120 hours because they got me to care about the characters, my decisions in the game and the repercussions that came from it. I’ve rarely experienced that in a video game.
There are actually a lot of really good games out there but a lot of them are older. The more companies act shady, the more I turn to Good Old Games and browse there, ending up with tons of enjoyment.
@ninjason57 Welcome to the world of great CRPGs. BG3 isn't even the best. Baldur's Gate 2 is better even if it is dated and Planescape Torment. There are a lot of really great CRPGs for the very reasons you have described.
I have bought it on console on its release. I have now put damn near 38 hours into it and man the story, A. The gameplay, A. Side quests and things to do, A. Amount of bugs, B+. Fun and creativity, A
You get side quests from completely random books that take you into deep, dangerous territory. And you can find epic items mixed in piles of junk. The creators of this game are nuts. Nothing they do is orthodox game design and I think it's great.
@@cagnazzo82You can speak with all animals, they have cutscenes lines and even quests, same for most dead "creatures". You can befriend or kill everyone you meet, and when I mean kill I mean focking slaughter. Lines, scenes and gameplay for 12 classes and 46 subcalsses. Not to mention the traits and skills which literrally block or open myriad of content as skill checks. Oh and theres multiple campaigns for your and origin characters and dark urge. 10/10 tbh. There are quite some bugs tho, but which game nowadays doesnt have those, what they dont have is everything i mentioned and much more
It's insane to me that these "AAA" game companies argue that it takes millions of dollars to make a game and they need to pay their thousands of workers, when a single guy in his mum's basement can pump out a hit title that returns millions times over in profit. I would rather the companies go back to taking 2-3 years to make a game, make it quality, from developers who LOVE the product they are making and creating a vision they have in their heads, rather than turning out another Call of Doody every year at a higher price tag with less content.
Yep. I think Stardew Valley is a great example of that, solo dev who did everything (including art and music) himself, game costs like 10 USD and players are getting thousands of hours from it. It's not for everyone, and it doesn't try to be for everyone. I do feel kinda bad for the developers who are just doing their job because they need money to live, when they likely became developers because they're passionate about games and then the industry sucks them dry.
There's a lot of interesting points here that haven't been get stressed enough. A lot of companies (gaming or otherwise) strive to create an emotional connection with the user, but as a whole, the connection is only one-way. So, whenever a company makes a move toward something more anti-consumer, they have a lot of people quick to defend them. It is very rare to see the emotional tie shared back toward the user, and when it is, it usually seems like it is done to try to repair a trust that was broken so they don't lose all of their customers (e.g. something like No Man's Sky, which has been coming up with constant, substantial free updates since 2016, including stuff like a free VR version, compared to other companies that tack it on and charge full price).
As a UI producer in the business for 10 years, I can tell you 100% that the UI doesn't matter to 'certain people' as much as it does to players. Plain and simple is that you only notice bad UI.
Different players want different uis too, if you look at wow for example, many people have vastly different uis that they make themselves via addons and the new edit feature.
I think that a lot AAA game developers have to answer to shareholders and they in turn crank out games too quickly. It's all about turning over year over year and it's BS for us gamers
Anthem was in development for 8 years. Redfall for 6 years. Not being able to release game with such barebone mechanics and depth in worthwhile state is not issue of pressure from shareholders.
@@NEkromanT33 Sometimes, parts of game development is an experiment, a developer will spend months trying out a mechanic or design to then realise it doesn't work, and in the bin it goes and then they start making a new mechanic or system. I doubt all 8 years of work made it into the final product. That might not be true for all development, but it's rare everything goes exactly to plan. As time goes on, budget pressure kicks in, and then serious cut backs and compromises on features get made. Either that or they go out of business.
And that's hitting the nail on the head, as soon as a studio grows big enough that they fall under or get taken over by a publisher thats (publicly) traded any form of risk taking to make a one of a kind game is a no no cause of short sighted investors and their short term goal of getting max dividend payments. Easier to crank out Fifa 24 and remakes then actually make something original.
They have to show those shareholders what they have every quarter too so i'm sure people who don't like playing games who've never made games are constantly trying to tell them what to do with their game with the goal of making more money, like how EA wanted Bioware to make dragon age 4 a live service game. Just greedy clueless fucks smearing their own paint over a professional painter's canvas.
Of course, IF game reputation is good THEN speak good about game OR IF game reputation is bad THEN speak bad about game in a nutshell, gotta grind the hate about starfield and the praise about baldur's gate because it's trendy!
Kinda sad, in a way. He is never going to get to enjoy playing these games because he wants to milk talking about them so much, and instead dumps time into something like... New World and Lost Ark.
@@jonathansoko1085 He's a farmer and always will be? Like, quite literally. Like every month or few months there would be a main thing where he farms content from like the Amber Heard event.
I am extremely picky about the games I play now. If companies cannot provide a great game out of the box, I will decline. The problem for me is now many AAA companies have lost my trust. I will hold my money for something more deserving. Imbecile companies expecting otherwise are just a waste of my time.
The difference on the debacle for FF14 is, Yoshi-P came out, was humble and said what the issues were and how they were gonna deal with it to "get where it needed to be". and to add on that, Yoshi-P is very open about the vision and "what were gonna do" otherwise, so FF has gotten a lot of "good will" in the playerbases eyes, did some stuff suck? yes. did some players quit? yes. were some players mad? yes. Yoshi-P still went out, took the blame as the "I am in charge, this is my fault" he may have pointed at different factors, but he still took the blame. I don't see Kotick doing that, Blizzard went and put 3 nervous guys to break the news on the "no PvE" (shut it, I know they released something of the sort, but it wasn't IT). Yoshi-P went out there knowing, this would affect images of him, but did it anyhow, Kotick is sitting and (sorry for the expression) wiping his ass with 100$ bills and couldn't give 2 fucks about whom or what has been affected.
IMO, the way I can tell Bg3 is a fundamentally good game is down to the fact I hate turn based games, yet tried it due to the reviews and friends suggesting it and I'm fucking addicted, best game I've played since ER
You don't hate turn-based games. You just hate bad games in the turn-based genre. Honestly, there are a lot of genres I'd say just aren't for me, but I'd be willing to put good money down that if someone made the right kind of game in that genre, even I would play it and love the shit out of it. Games are fun. When they're designed right, just about anyone can enjoy them. It just has to fit whatever your lizard brain finds satisfying.
How? I played about to hours and just never picked it up again? What is it with these types of games that sucks people in. I’m not hating., I really don’t get it tho.
@@elohel3293 if you ve only played two hours you havent really given it a chance, there are so many items , secrets, characters, stories, so you just arrived at the Emerald grove and decided to help the Tieflings and you were like 'nah bro games not for me' while youre still in the tutorial basically
@@SupremeDouchebaggery I am in no way hating on the game. It looks amazing. I found out that it’s the combat system that does it for me. I feel limited in what I can do. I gave the game to my brother and he fell in love with it since he played d&d as a kid.
Baldur's gate is so good that it is one of my favorite games atm. I am not a fan AT ALL of turn based games and yet i havent had this much fun since the xbox360 days with Halo. Best part is i have maybe only spent like 80 hours into the game for over the past month but it feels like i have played it so much more than i thought i did and i am only in my first playthrough together with my girlfriend. We are constantly talking about how we gonna do things next time in our other runs. It feels like forever i was this interested in a game and that i enjoyed co op this much as well and this is a game that is quite the opposite of my favorite genres.
This is simple, the companies aren't willing to sacrifice their standards on pricing if we have financial issues, so it's only fair that we aren't willing to sacrifice our standards on quality because of their production issues.
As a software engineer I would love to work at this fantasy corp where devs actually get to make decisions about anything - you’re told “we want exactly this, now build it “
Sounds like you would like to work at an indie/small company - you have to wear more hats as a result, and do less of your "actual role", but you get massive creative freedom.
I think everyone can concur that when 30 layers of middle and upper level management who spend most of their time having unproductive, marathon long meetings are involved, nothing gets done.
BG3 vs most modern AAA games = Making the best possible game that can be made for players to enjoy VS making somewhat good enough game and advertise it enough for developers to sell. Of corse it goes much deeper.
BG3 has me no longer playing WoW which I have played for easily 12+ years. I recognize that I have been playing WoW solely based on the sunk cost fallacy. I no longer played the game cause I wanted to, I felt that I had to. BG3 was extremely eye opening to me on what an amazing game SHOULD feel like. I have laughed, stayed up late and have been extremely invested Something I haven't felt since WoW first release, or even back when Heroes of Might and Magic 2 & 3 came out (showing my age here a little lol). It's been so nice to play a game that is fully fleshed out, and not paying premium for bones of a game expecting DLCs to complete the game.
HOMM3 was MY JAM. Based take, gamer confirmed. I felt the same about other mmos I played. I went into bg3 and was blown away at the resolution options that you simply dont see in other games.
Yup, I played WoW since vanilla and added FFXIV a couple years ago. Have not touched either since BG3 released and have no desire to go back. It felt like a second job.
@@mkeller7881 Yea FFXIV as much as I love it (played it nonstop for the past couple years), I have not given it one single thought ever since diving into BG3 lol and dont feel like going back either!
One (not the only) aspect to take away from Larian's success is they are privately owned and the owner and leadership are making the games they do, because they wanna make good fun games. Most (if not all) of those big and bigger + publicly owned companies...well, specifically their leadership/bosses/owners make games to make money first and good game second. Viewed in this way, it explains the microtransactions and other predatory monetization mechanics being built into the game design.
Larian got royally screwed over by publishers often enough so the owner/founder/ceo/creative director Swen Vincke kicked them out and went indie. They have been making money and good games since.
Well sadly they fired most of the good devs throughout the development of BG3 in favor of diversity hires which is why the later half is so much worse and its so flooded with wokeness now.
Why is BG3 so good? It's simple. NEVER, not ONCE in my 500 hours of Baldurs Gate 3 have I felt like I'm fetching a macguffin. NOT ONCE. Each quest is a story, a real engaging story, with history, relevance, and impact. That's why it's fun to play.
A lot of that relies on it being based off of DnD, but I think a larger part relies on Larian being amazing storytellers that make even the most mundane of quests feel engaging. Not to mention, they know how to subvert expectations properly. Right off the nautiloid you think you're going straight into a town through that big front door you walk up to, but instead, they make you traverse the nearby wreckage and the wilderness in search of a village or town. That alone drew me into the world's exploration.
This. Most triple A companies today simply disguise their mediocre and grindy quests behind flashy action and spectacular visuals, however a well polished turd still remains a turd.
I worked in a ramen shop where the servers were mad at me because they weren't being tipped enough despite the fact that they only had two fryers lol and I was just thinking surely they know the boss is who controls the tips and their SALARY. As you said if the job is not for you then don't blame others
BG3 last act isn't even that bad anymore. Sure needs some performance improvements, but they have been delivering on that and they have more coming up.
As a 31 year old dude who's been gaming since i could hold anything i can tell you this: Playing BG3 was a similar experience as it was playing world of warcraft for the first time. Nothing was what you'd expect, everything had to be figured out through either reading the tooltips or playing the game. It was amazing! Ever since mists of pandaria launched/ended i've been wondering if i outgrew video games. I'm glad BG3 proved me wrong in that regard. I'm not too old for video games, and i also haven't seen all there is meaning that anything newly released just feels bland and dull. Developers just suck lately. It's all a massive cash grab and no one cares about delivering a finished and actually enjoyable product. Halo infinite was in development for 10+ years. I call bullshit on them working on it for that long. I mean look at manor lords. Saying your game has been in development for that long just creates a hype. Because it took that long it has to be good, right? GTAV has been running for over 10 years where people can buy 8 milion (wich basicly means fuck all) for 80 euro's. It's complete bullshit.
A great take. I'm a huge fan of CD Projekt Red, they earned enough "currency" from me on the Witcher 3 that when Cyber Punk came out I was like: Yeah okay this is not good. It has potential but its current state to me is not worth what i Pre Ordered for. But I trust their intentions and their competency to eventually get it right and the game is a lot better today than it is at launch. Will I pre order from them again? Probably not, they lost some currency on the state of CP 2077 at launch vs what they advertised. If Witcher 4 isn't good they'll lose even more or if its good they'll earn some back. The Currency analogy is just spot on. The other thing that irks me is they act like Gamers are completely ignorant of how games are made. If that was the case you wouldn't hear the phrase "and can you believe this was made by X (a small) number of people? That statement right there says: " My value proposition was met so well that I can't believe this didn't cost more to make, or wasn't expecting it for some other reason". It means the game had features, style, or some other factor that was done to the complete satisfaction of the user. If you know Lean Six Sigma (a project management and efficiency course I imagine many project managers at game companies have taken) they call those "delighters" or: A "delighter is a feature, also called latent requirements, that is not basic and expected but desirable and unexpected". It's not our job as the consumer to know this stuff but my point is that these big companies have people who's job it is to know and understand these concepts. If you don't scale well from the small company that delighted us and end up being the multi million/billion dollar company that dissatisfies us, that's not our failure as the consumer. Instead of trying to denigrate Larian you should be celebrating their success and taking inspiration. I heard the (former) CEO of the company I work for say something to the extent of we should celebrate the success of our competition because it should inspire us and drive us to do better. He said that is what drives innovation, "It's not about being right, its about getting it right."
I really love this game! I love how challenging it is and the storyline is epic!! I’m new to the dnd universe and it took me 5hours and eventually my bf’s help to defeat a simple minion. My bf laughed because all I needed was a cleric buff. I hope the developers continue to make amazing dnd campaigns like this.
People forget that other AAA devolopers that used to make good games are owned by publishers like EA and Activision that push the worst aspect of gaming into each of these companies and wear down the employees. This isnt an excuse for how it is, i hate modern gaming. But a company like Larian is running their team in a way that has good pacing and makes sense for their team to make a good game and i hope that never changes.
Balders Gate 3 was a fantastic game, beginning to end. It had its issues, but it could be overlooked simply because it was a great experience that made me care about the characters and story. ER and TOTK were fantastic too. Give Nintendo credit, when they put out a game, it is ready to go.
Exactly. Were there issues? Of course, for me (spoilers) the Orin fight was bugged the first time and none of the enemies did anything on their time, but hey it was a little funny the first time so after blasting them freely for some fun I just reloaded and did the fight normally when it worked. Were there things I wish had been included, like uses for rope? Yeah duh, but there was still so much creativity and intricate storytelling that I don’t really care there are minor issues.
@@robertfishburn8545 Same, I was like "I can't wait to use all this rope" and then the first time I wanted to get down a ledge I realized I couldn't use it for anything lol
i think the main reason for having ingame currencies isn't to obfuscate how much money is spent (though that is probably a reason). i think the main reason is so that they can do the thing where a skin or something costs 500 of that currency and you can only buy it in incements of 200, 400, 1100 and so on and make each individual point cheaper if you buy them in bulk. that way you'd have to buy at least 600 and the last 200 are more expensive per point compared to the last 100 you'd have missing if a 500 option existed. additionally, now that you had to buy 600, you'll have 100 left sitting around and since people see that as wasted they are more inclined to buy something else with those points, even if they have to spend extra money to do so.
30:27 : What a spot-on sentiment this was and it does happen, and seemingly will continue to. As an example, CD Project Red, shortly after the release of Phantom Liberty, announced they're transitioning their focus to a new title and will no longer support Cyberpunk 2077.
Tavern brawler berserker is actually the most fun I've had with games in a while. It just *feels good*. I'm not too too far in (cleaning up act 1 still) but just ran into an enemy who feared my entire team... Disarmed? No problem. Throw the closest object to Knockdown the big baddy right into my nature cleric's field of thorns
Tavern Brawler Berserkers are hands down the best Act 1 experience IMHO because almost every enemy you come across is small and light enough to use as a weapon 😂
Working in the industry I see studios and publishers throw soooo much money out the window via simple carelessness or mismanagement. It's insulting to see them trying to justify triple A prices, and raising that price, when you see how much money they are wasting during development. Comparatively, some studios are extremely efficient and well managed. Some indie and smaller studios get 1/10th of the budget and make sure every dollar is used well. And the ironic part is that those devs and publishers who are more conscientious generally charge significantly less for their product, for doing their job better.
Oh but Larian Studios has a not so secret secret. They have a studio in Canada, a few in Europe and one in Malaysia. They pass the work around the globe at the end of the working day to the guys that just woke up. They are all 9 to 5 ers not worked to death. Clear minds 24h a day.
I feel as though bg3 brought back the passion i felt from the older final fantasy games, 8-13, its just this sense of pride and more you can feel they put in. Larian is putting out hot fixes and still introducing things, its incredible to see a franchise be LOVED by its creators, like a tiny indie game with a cult following, except its a company with the funding to make a message.
I'm glad people like Asmongold amplifying voices like this with their reaction/reply videos. originally this video had 250k views, thanks to this channel it bumped up to a million.
8:33 its like thinking that I hate or love a farmer based on how hard it was to grow the banana i bought from a store was. I dont care about the farmer or how hard it was to grow the banana i just want my banana and I want it to be good
7:09 EXACTLY! We don’t care about the process. If i don’t like the taste of a food, I’m not going to buy it based off of an appreciation for “the process it took to be made” 😂
I’ve never once in my life wanted to play a turned based ga besides Valkyrie profile two, EVER I just spend 9 consecutive hours having the most fun I’ve had in gaming in the past 3-4 years in this game alone.
@robertfishburn8545 oh yeah I know it's gotta be thick af. I didn't do Astasion's stuff, and just straight up did the necessary stuff to get the credits to roll... next up in the Evil Barbarian playthrough then the Heroic Paladin on Tactician... easily have another 150 hours until the Platinum
Is it sad that when I load up Baldurs gate, I get real happy with the start menu, there is just like New Game, Load Game, Resume, Options etc, and no store or like promotions for the week. Its sad that its nice because it just feels like what games used to be.
@blakegallegos1064 it's graphics are fine what are you talking bout. Dated is fucking Syphon Filter for ps1 or og crash bandicoot etc. Grim Dawn isn't dated. Feel it's more it's something else cause Grim Dawn is amazing.
No devs I know were critical of Bg3--we learned from it, they love it, they're inspired by it--myself included. All I want in this world is to be able to make games like bg3.
@@igorthelight When you say publishers, are you talking about marketing, finance and the people who figure out what the requirements are for games shipping on Xbox/PS? In my experience those people have little interaction with the actual dev team. Much of my time has been spent over the last 2 months figuring out how to reverse engineer how they were able to make so much story content so quickly. There are a lot of unique things about Larian that helped BG3 become the masterpiece that it is (they already had worked out the systems and the engine, so they didn't need to build those things and they could focus all their dev effort on the incredibly complex tree of story outcomes). A company like Blizzard also has a high commitment to not shipping with certain kinds of bugs--bugs that BG3 shipped with that didn't seem to negatively impact the actual play experience that much, but would have been VERY expensive (in terms of engineering hours) to fix. We spend a TON of effort fixing bugs because of the idea of Blizzard polish, one of my biggest takeaways is that I'm not actually sure how worth it some of these bugs are to fix. We constrain ourselves in what we are willing to attempt because we are worried about how many bugs a certain execution might create. Maybe we have the wrong balance there, and we should attempt more complex things and be ok with that causing more bugs and the game shipping with those bugs unfixed.
The wake up call was common sense. I'm annoyed it took until Baldur's gate 3 for it to hit the sheep, but hopefully it sticks. Then maybe I can start enjoying games again for fun and not just be stuck with watered down distractions that want to pound my puckerfish for every cent I have.
The one thing I can't stand about Baldur's Gate 3 is the action bar. Its so messy, all the time. If you switch abilities tied to equipment or spell slots you have to re-order them whenever a change happens unless you can stand the chaos of your melee action being anywhere instead of in one place. The rest of the UI is alright honestly.
This reminds me of when Steam introduced refunds and a bunch of indie devs started complaining about it and thus admitting that their games where shit and most people would ask for a refund if they could get one. If you can't convince a person they spent their money well and leave them wanting to buy more of your games as opposed to refunding what they already bought then that's your problem. This is the exact same thing. AAA studios can't be expected to put out a finished product? Then wtf are we expected to buy it?
So true on the reviewers! I’m 95 hours into one play through (220+ hours played) and I’m still not through all of lower city. Reviewers should have to post their time played to source credibility. Not that you can’t get a good idea of the game 30 hours into act 1 but it’s definitely not a review of the full product.
With DnD finally meeting a (more than) acceptable conversion from pen and paper to video game they have the possibility to release existing campaigns from DnD to PC and I am 100% sure that I'm not the only one who would spend money on that. Just the thought of being able to play a DnD campaign with 1 or 2 players is really neat.
My three favorite games were made with crazy time and/or budget issues. Pathologic (og and 2), Fallout New Vegas, and BG3. Budget and time are used as a scapegoat, when priorities are the real problem. A playthrough of Pathologic is only about 25 hours and the animation is pretty ugly, but the storytelling is phenomenal. Smaller games with a tight story and clear focus are loved for years and years. Gamers aren't stupid. We know laziness and greed when we play it.
You know, it's funny hearing these arguments. I'm an old head. I just turned 44 this year. I remember when games came out and they were finished products and any bugs they weren't fixed, so in a sense you bought what you got and any s*** games you just got company pretty much went under or their titles were scorned. I mean, I'm talking old atari nintendo super nintendo segagenesis playstation eccentric, it's a completely different market now. With online games where they can push out a shit product and expected to pay full price, and then try and nickle and dine you to pay for the fixes later.
In my entire playthough of Baldurs Gate 3 i never once encounterd dodgy voice acting. This includes animal voices. Its an incredible achievement
More importantly for me I never encountered dialogue options that didn't offer a choice I would WANT to say. It was always appropriate for me, and I think I am not a well represented type of person in games. It is an astounding achievement. Black Isle/Bioware D&D games were always good about that and Larian was faithful to their pedigree.
It honestly is crazy. I might be wrong but I think BG3 both has the largest quantity of voice acted lines, and the highest quality of voice acted lines of any video game. And I think that’s a series underrated aspect that adds to your immersion.
And unlike Starfield, the conversations are supremely animated and lip synced. Like, you can see Larian's passion for this project throughout. There are still bugs and glitches, but Larian is the one fixing them. I give Bethesda maybe six months of halfheartedly patching Starfield before they move on and leave it in the hands of the modders like they always do.
@@micmack1006I think they are on par with Dragon Age Origins, there are lots of voicelines there as well. However, sometimes the voice acting is not on point. Still, it's also a masterpiece, try it out if you liked BG3
I remember a couple of times where one of the lines was obviously as re-recording. Same voice actor, but it seemed like it was recorded at a different day because the tone didn’t follow from one reply to the next. But it only happened like 3 times
As always, thanks for watching and the support. Love seeing your takes on this topic.
Love your channel and content you post my friend ! Keep up the awesome work !
This was the first video I seen of yours it was very well made and your opinion seems just spot on 100% I am now subscribed
Might have to do a check-up on your information.
The leadership at Arcane studio's wanted to make Redfall a live service many years ago.....not Xbox.
How the hell do you get basic article knowledge that wrong or did you just randomly come up with something that would suit?
I don't agree with everything in the video, well I don't think that game producers are doing anything wrong.. they are just reacting to the market. If market wants games with microtransactions then that's what they will produce. Companies are not in charge of the market, it's the customers! Company just releases a product (game) and they judge the success of it by looking at the sales: good sales = good game, bad sales = bad game (change design). That's it, it's up to the market forces to determine what sort of games are being produced, it's not up to the devs. If for some reason market changed and microtransactions doesn't sell anymore then they are forced by the market to design different types of games, so if anything, you have to blame the market (or customers) not the companies
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The fact Nintendo got Tears of the kingdom to work on a cellphone chip, but third party AAA developers cant get their smaller game to work on a 3090 shows that AAA studios don't have the talent they used to.
Any Dev's that don't want to step up to the new bar set by BG3 need to find a new career. Simple as that!
The era of subpar over priced AAA games has to come to an end.
Sometimes it's not the Devs fault, it's the Corpos making them rush the development and not giving them enough time to optimize. Look at how Cyberpunk got working on PS4 when they finally worked on it
@@safs3098 Yup you're correct, in a AAA company the devs are rarely if ever to blame because they don't make all the important decision they "just" make the game. That leads to greedy and poor decision making by the execs that just want money but don't know jack shit about games or why people like them. The fact that most of these poorly launched games get "fixed" with patches is proof that the devs actually do know how to make games but they don't have the time to.
@@Nadz203you probably blame cashiers for prices at grocery stores lol
@@safs3098Erm.. i don't think we should be defending devs that much. Pokémon Sword/Shield, Overwatch 2 these games spent years in development and turned out to be bare minimum upgrade from their previous versions, and had people on the writing teams who wrote garbage plots and worldbuilding, had actual people working on textures who did a shit job, had people working on systems that made super boring and unfun gameplay.... you can't go to work to work on something for 3-6 years and hand in garbage and say oh it's not good because corpo rushed me. It's not an excuse. Some of these devs ARE GARBAGE.
Baldur’s Gate 3 definitely reminded me of my love for video games again. Genuinely thought I was getting too old for them, but I now understand games have just been dog shit for the last decade.
Same man same . I just started bg3 yesterday and I felt like a kid again playing the game and exploring around. I even took my sweet time in character customization and reading the benefits of different attributes . The only other game that made me feel that way was Elden ring .
Try playing some Indie Games. Their 100x better because their not needing to follow the same formula for years and years because they worked before. And the devs are the same people playing the games so they know what people will enjoy. And unlike AAA companies their sole purpose isn't always to get rich since often they just want to make their dream game. Great examples of this are probably Stardew Valley or Hollow Knight to name the big ones.
@@nathanpfirman625enh give some examples. Most of those are lame too lol
Fear and hunger for me was amazing, as I like horror @@JakeNHale
True many of us felt like the reason for not enjoying most games is because we got old but then something like this comes and you realise the entertainment industry just got a lot worse.
Also important to note that with the FF14 Endwalker release, Yoshi-P released a public statement detailing why the problems were happening, and immediately took full blame and asked for forgiveness from the players. He did this without shifting the blame around or making excuses. Humility and not treating customers like they're morons, it isn't hard.
And look at where it got FF14 nowadays. Players loved it even more.
This is because Japanese culture is rooted in duties rather than rights (ie, it places duty over right).
@@July-gj1stthis. Their work ethic is top notch
Damn right preach!
It's upsetting when we hear lies instead of truth.
The game companies should be upfront instead of trying to pretend that they are infallible...
I believe there would be more money to be made with the values that we all recognize deep within us...
If I see this in companies, I want to support it and am willing to close an eye to their imperfections due to pure heart.
@@July-gj1stNo, that is not why. Youre cherry picking 1 Japanese person, look at Nintendo if you really think this is because hes Japanese
I also find it hilarious that BG3 sells for $10 less than the "new standard AAA price". I.e. the $60 price we were used to
I bought it for $30 at the beginning of EA and they upgraded me to in game collectors items for free
And many of us bought it for $30 in early access
you are lucky then, it's 80$ for me on steam.
Armored core 6 as well almost as though you can make great successful games priced below 70$ who would have though
i think becos its a digital only game and they were still consider indie game developer.
For the past few months of playing wow I thought I've become too old or lost interest in playing videogames because I would always fall asleep while playing it. But when I started playing Baldur's Gate 3 I find myself playing for hours not realizing I've been playing all night till 5 in the morning.
Yes. Bought early access a couple of weeks before release. Before I knew it I was lost in the game, and only realized that hours had past when the birds started chirping outside. Not had that since childhood almost.
I''m a hardcore WoW player, leveled to 9 on the new hardcore servers and have been playing BG3 ever since.
It turns me back to feeling like a kid when I had no responsibilities. Except now I have responsibilities 😭
Game is too good. Turning me into an addict.
Same. I get home from work around 4pm, start playing at 6pm and next when I look at the clock it's 1am and it feels like I've been playing for an hour. Absolutely amazing feeling. Not very healthy, but god damn did I miss it.
Yea i wanted to play it a bit just of curiosity and was just magnified to it for 10 hours that day
Ive never played a Larian game. Ive dont like turn-based combat. Ive never played D&D. I bought Baldurs Gate 3 due to peer pressure and its the only game ive played since I bought it. It is insanely good and astonishes me every way I turn.
If you do get tired of it at some point, I can recommend Divinity Original Sin 2. It's also a Larian game, which functions a bit like BG3.
It does lack the amazing cutscenes, but it also has origin characters as well as the capability to make your own unique character. The music in DOS2 is imho, even better than in BG3. The story and characters are also really good. The freedom of choice is also there. And the game is just immensely beautiful.
Instead of the DnD rules for combat, they have their own system. Disabling effects can only be used when either magical armor, or physical armor is depleted (the same type of armor needs to be removed for that type of effect). And that game has greater synergies between elements, in the sense that having a wet target is a HUGE buff to frost and electric attacks, while oil and gas amplify explosions and fire.
But more than anything, DOS2 has that same clear passion showing through as BG3 and elden ring. It clearly gives the same vibe that the people who made the game, truly loved making it.
I suggest you give Divinity: Original Sin 2 a go after BG3, it's also by Larian, their very own IP in fact, while not giving you the same kind of freedom BG3 does, its mechanics and story are great.
Play Wasteland 2 and 3, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity. All great games
DOS2 is the best game I have played. They action system is better than bg3 I believe.@@lihisluikku
I can agree. Turn-based tactic games turn me away sometimes. I've read reviews and tried a few, but got bored and aggravated with the waiting and losing ppl from misplacement or everyone gang up on 1 person. Not saying I won't play them, that just the biggest issues I have with those type of games
bg3 fills me with a child-like excitement I haven't felt in years, didn't know playing a game could make me feel this way anymore
Same here! And now for me it's Black Myth: Wukong. Can't wait to see what these amazing artists come up with next!
Baulder's Gate 3 is what I thought all videogames were going towards as a kid just thinking about it got me excited like Christmas Eve at 6 years old. Boy was I wrong.
Other devs hates Baldur's Gate 3 because it reveal how incompetent they are.
No one hates BG3
@@tezz2698shareholders and big corpo shills do
I doubt they care, do people keep buying there crap? Yeap. Will they keep making it? Yeap.
@@tezz2698 That's not what they mean. They are saying BG3 reveals that other developers are incompetent (Not Larian)
It also reveals how greedy dev company's are
I remember as a kid my teacher explained to me the whole 'currency of goodwill' thing. When I was late on a paper and had a good excuse, it didn't matter because I had been late so many times and always had an excuse. While I was upset because this time I really couldn't help it - it didn't matter because I had already used up all that goodwill on my homework before. It's the same way here, if a studio keeps putting out unfinished trash . . . no one is going to care when they have a legitimate reason for a delay or poor performance.
Eat that frog. Do your homework
Well said.
like the boy who cried wolf
Let me put it this way. BG3 sucked me into the story and my characters in less than 30 minutes. The world around me and the people I talked to offered me stories and problems to solve that actually made me consider my morals and the different implications of each outcome. Full world exploration wasn’t shoved in my face, but was heavily encouraged from the interactions I had had by just going off the beaten path even just a little bit. Quests and battles aren’t easy, and actually make you think about the best way to solve them, until you get the hang of the game and start looking tactically at not only your characters but also the environment.
The game assumes you’re not a idiot and knows not to waste your time by constantly giving you character progression and interesting problems, and if none of those things interest you, don’t do them. You can miss companions completely if you don’t care, or you could find more than you bargained for by just looking a little bit. It’s a great game. The only one I’ve even wanted to play over the last 2 weeks, and tbh newer games are nowhere on my radar. I could keep going. The music. The voice acting. It’s all great. Spend the money. You deserve this game.
Ever since I played Paper Mario as a kid back in 2000/2001 I've hated and avoided turn based combat games. I seriously thought it was the most boring thing ever for well over 20 years, but all of this was until I played BG3 or like 2 hours. I've now clocked in over 80 hours and I only just finished chapter 1. Regardless of how bad I honestly do feel for all the Devs slaving their lives away to make shit games, I'm dead serious when I say I'll never look at a video game the same way ever again after this.
Yeah, there was a few events early on where i actually sat there for 5 minutes trying to decide what decision i want to make. Thats when i knew this game was going to be good. Instead of most games where you are railroaded and your "choices" are just a laundry list you complete one after the other, BG3 actually has meaningful choices that shape the world around you. Truly an incredible experience.
Thats arguable why FromSoftware games always feels so satisfying to play and beat. They trust the player to be smart enough to figure things out on their own without holding their hand and throwing things in their face constantly to play their game the way the devs want you to. It's a video game where we're actually in control playing a game not being railed onto a directed experience.
@@robinjonk I haven't played BG3 yet, but the best TB combat games I've played are JA2 (both the base game as well as the fan patch) and Battle Brothers (brutal). Final Fantasy Tactics with the fan patch is probably pretty good but I didn't play it very long.
@@bt8593 Let your friends and family know you are going to be unavailable for the next few weeks before you do start playing. Hands down one of the most enjoyable games I have played in my life. Whether you like turn based combat or not really doesn't matter. The combat in the game is very fulfilling(and you can skip a ton of it if you want) and the story/characters are simply amazing. The only thing I can say I did not like is they should let you know, in some way, that when you are nice to a companion it will very likely mean you are trying to romance that companion at the same time. It seems like you say something to the effect of "cheer up buddy" and they take it as "i want to see you naked". Other than that, I don't see how anyone could not enjoy this game... immensely.
Eldenring was like someone blowing a foghorn to wake you up. Baldur's gate 3 was like someone giving you a hard slap across your face then dunking your head in cold water just to wake up from the complacency and this count for the consumer, the developers and the publishers.
The fact that you can walk from the very beginning of Elden ring to every other point in the game with like one loading screen or zero, is wild.
@Regden1000
Somehow I seriously doubt either of those things. I have played and beaten Elden Ring. Needed a lot of work to be a true master work. It definitely had a lot of problems but it was an enjoyable enough game. Seriously disagree with this guy in the video though. It's world design is not great. Not even close. It is a souls game in an open world environment but that open world, while quite beautiful, is actually very tacked on. And a modern isometric RPG is nothing new and BG3 is definitely no Planescape Torment or even Baldur's Gate 2. I think the isometric style needs to evolve into a full on third person or first person RPG with all the great writing and direction of CRPGs. Except the millennial writing in modern games. Seriously needs to stop. When we get a full blown AAA first or third person game with amazing gameplay, excellent world crafting and exploration, and the quality writing of great CRPG's that is when we will have a real wake up call. At least for western RPGs.
@@gamersinger5118 I'm not a huge fan of Elden Ring either but I can still admit that the game provides sufficient value. By the time the cracks start to show in Elden Ring, I had gotten my $60 worth. No I wouldn't play it again, no I didn't even finish the game, but it was still worth my time and money.
@@Gabe7Gal
Oh no argument from me there. The game definitely has value. Just because I do not consider it a masterpiece does not mean I don't consider it to be worth the price of the game. I got plenty of enjoyment out of it and most would. It may be full of flaws but it is still a very fun game especially to the specific consumers it targets.
Elden ring blew my mind when I faced General Radahn, but then completely underwhelmed me on every other aspect. They kind of ruined my enjoyment with so many retread bosses, boring bland dungeons, no enjoyable deep characters. It was meh, fine but not great
BG3 is the first game, in a very long time, that made me laugh so hard I actually choked on my own spit, cry so hard I needed to grab the tissues, and scream out loud multiple times as well as feel like the world melted away and didn't matter so much. It has it's bugs, for sure, but because of the care they obviously put into it and the vast scope as well as the rate they're rolling out the patches and hotfixes and listening to their fanbase without crumbling under us--this game is truly a masterpiece and the experience as a whole has felt like a once-in-a-lifetime thing. Larian has earned our trust; I hope other companies have learned from their model. Put the game out into Early Access, let the players that want to help you through the early stages and beta it for a price, give them a say and "make them feel important" and then release it in a way more polished state than many games are coming out in these days. Were there some sections that were hinky? Oh yeah, Act 3 has some sections that were buggy. But we are forgiving because Larian was so upfront and transparent with us.
@@ramonandrajo6348Is it? I hate woke stuff, but I haven’t noticed any wokeness in bg3.
@@BRZno86 you didn't notice because there's no such thing as woke stuff. There's bad writing and good writing. There's people preaching at you and there's people opening up a scenario that makes you understand nuanced topics. If you don't notice woke things (X-Men and several large IPs are woke af and always have been) it's because you generally don't disagree with it on its face. I get the frustration but the outrage over "wokeness" is just political bullshit and word appropriation for the sole purpose of outrage baiting.
@@shama-llamading-dong5370no no, we can do it on older games too. The difference is, back then, there is no terms like woke. Everyone think its just great to have this many opportunities/possibilities, not gender-limited.
@@ramonandrajo6348 you can consider 2 things in the game as "woke", if you want to:
1. you can make a genderswapped char, a male identifiing as female and whatever floats your boat. but this will never be a topic during the game. if someone does that and streams his game after char creation, noone would notice if the streamer doesn't tell you.
2. you can romance every companion with whatever char you created without trouble. no matter if male, female or anything in between, the romance options is always the same for each and every char but you can still choose to ignore them, if you don't like that. so if you don't like gay content, you just choose to not do them.
there can be an argument made that it is unrealistic, that every companion gets the hots for everything and you are right about that but in the end it is a SP game and noone realy cares. the game itself is great, the story is great and that is what matters. everyone is free to ignore the woke stuff. I personaly don't believe in 3+ genders and don't like gay content, so I ignored it and have fun with the game. if someone wants to be a queer person with female body and a large, pink beard, romancing any char because they like them, they don't ruin my game by doing this in their own.
In fact, BG3 proves to the film industry that woke stuff was never the problem, but writing a good story is. noone cares if the protagonist is a bi poc but they do care, when the story is horseshit. and that is what most, if not all woke stories tend to be.
@@ramonandrajo6348 it is also the first time someone calls BG3 a woke, poorly written game.
at least I can give an explanation. something others seem unable to do, yourself included. I have a feeling, that this wont change so I wish a nice day regardless and bid my farewell
As an HVAC installer. I can only imagine what would happen if I complained and got upset because a customer was upset that after installation, their AC or heat didn’t work better than their old system…
“Pls customer.. you have to understand things about my shareholders and budget..” lmao
See the thing with this new model is that the thing with the Old model different from the new one and the company has a new manufacturer they buy from so the thing is that with the thing
Lol ya you'd be fucked, I dont get it game Devs are a unique breed. I do non game dev and although we do have have periods of long hours, it's part of the job and I know I'd be selfish to even think I work on avg more than my buddy in hvac; dude will call me on some roof in a snow storm at 9pm....or cooking in 100+ in the summer. It's disrespectful for those Devs to even complain, let alone use that bs as an excuse. If game sucks maybe they should have worked more effectively.
@@PoopSockJohnson Well it’s one thing if it works the SAME. But the new models are supposed to be more energy efficient, so even if it works the same it should be cheaper to run at least. By that logic, all these new games coming out should be like $30 instead of rising to $70
@@Tetarkall haha I was just typing out a nonsense rambling explanation as a joke but you're right
BG3 had a Hotfix that went live and then rolled back in the middle of people's play sessions, making all post hotfix progress unloadable. BG3 is so fucking good that no one complained because we knew Larian would fix it (they did) AND because the game is so choice-heavy Hotfix 4 gave me a reason to try out different paths.
The trust Larian has is crazy and well-deserved.
They rolled back the hotfix because it bricked new saves.
This makes my decision to buy BG3 today all the more happy inducing...waiting for it to finish downloading now, 10 more min i think
The thing is companies had smaller budgets, less people, and less time but they still made fully developed great games. Now with better technology, easier to use tools, and infinite budget by comparison they can't make a complete fun game.
"smaller budgets, less people, and less time but they still made fully developed great games". Like what for example
@@Drakon332x warcraft 3, starcraft 1, diablo 2 to name only blizzard itself. Diablo 2 took 3 years, "The Diablo II team comprised three main groups: programming, character art (everything that moves), and background art (everything that doesn't move), with roughly a dozen members each" and i don't think i need to talk about budget to prove my point further. diablo 2 was a finished game, fully developped with great easter eggs and details. Now whether it is great or not is subjective i guess, but imo it was. In contrast d4 is 10 years of developped and around 10k people working on it for a gigantic and pathetic mess.
@@xelinco3005 How are you going to mention games that were far smaller in scope, back when tech was far more limited, and therefore easier to code as examples? lol.
I agree I like those games more than most today, but you can't even compare those to the types of games coming out now.
Unless you want to talk about the remasters of 2 of those games, which I refuse to acknowledge their existence...Wait..Shit..
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken dude, making games is easier now than back then. You have plenty assets to use for free, plenty tutorials on yt but somehow it's harder?! lol
@@Th1sUsernameIsNotTaken Even if it was true, if the scope is too Big for them the failure IS still on them. i can also just say the witcher 3. It is 8years old now.
I love how the people who made BG3 actually look like the people who would play it. They look just like my Warhammer group. Bungie used to look like that.
No blue hair and nose piercings and ideology? 😂😂 sorry I kid
I really love games in general that you could EASILY tell they were made with love.
HiFi Rush, Elden Ring, Resident Evil, It Takes Two, Hollow Knight, Omori, Yakuza 0, Dave the Diver, and more
Are all games where i could personally feel like the devs put work towards making the experience wonderful for their fans. Even if they may not compete with the sheer perfection of BG3, they were able to build a solid community. And that, i believe, is what is more important in gaming.
The best apology is No Man's Sky apology, where they went completely dark and turned the game into an absolute gem.
is it though >?
@@damasterpiece08yes. If you ever played it, especially in VR, you would know it's fantastic.
@@damasterpiece08 absolutely yes. It's also one of the best VR games of all time. If you like sandbox games, it's actually really amazing. If you like looting or base building or just freewheeling it like any GTA playthrough, there's a lot of value here. The fun is that there have been so many updates by now that you can just switch tasks seamlessly if you get bored. Ship collecting, good piracy options, destroying sentinals, dogfighting, treasure hunting, farming, exploration, coop, undersea exploration, mech warfare, etc etc etc. All free updates.
@@Kev1nLI agree....best VR experience by a long shot. They really do care. Had a blast with VR.
@@damasterpiece08 yep. The launch is definitely botched.
However the redemption arc is incredible. They didn't blame the fans, didn't say weird thing and instead go back to work and fix what they can.
Instead of word they show results. And the fix is fully free, even beyond what you can expect from a free update
I'm waiting on a dev to come out and just say what we all know to be the case:
"We don't make good games because our corporate overlords and their investor buddies won't allow us to. Games aren't about having fun anymore they're just another avenue to make the most money whilst doing the least amount of work possible. *IF* you have fun playing our trash then that's just an added unintended bonus for you, but that's not the design."
Edit: primarily AAA devs not so much indie and AA studios.
Nobody has the balls to do so especially with the fear of non-disclosure agreements within their contracts which is why you usually don’t hear that until AFTER the fact (they leave said company)
sounds like an excuse from someone who cares more about their paycheck than making a good game tbh, best they not pipe up and pretend to care at all
@@tyeberiusmcintyre1879if the product at your job is ass how much agency do you have to change that? None...yup just like the dude at EA hating his life cranking out shit content just to not get fired.
@@herpiegerbstick6808 they could work elsewhere or make games solo. people blame execs and shareholders because 'all they care about is money' but the only reason devs are cranking out this garbage is because the same goes for them. none of them from the top to the bottom actually give half a damn about releasing a decent game. they are no better or worse than their "corporate overlords".
asmon has spent so much time reacting to baldur's gate 3 content that if he spent that time playing the game on stream he might have gotten halfway through act 1 by now.
🤣 that’s funny, he does seem hell bent on not playing it 🤣
The fact there’s so many different outcomes to situations, makes this so replayable and immersive. I absolutely love this one. 💞✌😊👍
I havent even finished the game yet but I've got three different playthroughs running that I'm playing differenlty. My first one is just do whatever i feel like in the moment and its my furthest one. Second one I'm playing Dark Urge and half-resisting half-accepting. My third one I'm planning to be all-out chaotic evil and side with the worst people I can find. It's crazy how many different routes you can play through this game and still get an interesting story lmao
I've played through Acts 1 and 2 about 4 times now. I have seen new content every single time, even after scouring the map the previous times.
@@scruffytlr789 Yeah its kind of insane how dense the content is lmao
I just started act 3 proper and am already overwhelmed as hell at how many different things there are everywhere.
@@MysticLukaact 3 is culmination of act 1 & 2. More investment u put on those 2 acts, then ur act 3 would be more rewarding. Even after hearing what everyone said, I don't feel disappointed for act 3 at all in my current playthrough. It is fun so far, since my previous 2 act, I explore every corner I can found.
@@MysticLuka i remember that, it was crazy after consuming all of act 1 and 2, only to see how you still have such a massive amount of content left in front of you.
I bought the early access to BG3 and thoroughly enjoyed it and looked forward to the full game. The voice actors were great. I had never heard of the guy that did Raphael’s voice. He completely sold that character and outside of Astarion I think he was the best voice in the game.
Raphael’s writing is also 🤌🏼
The reason why the big gaming companies want to criticize elden Ring and baldur's gate 3, is because it proves that they're being lazy with their game development, and they're afraid that if they don't speak out on it they're going to get exposed and they won't be able to be lazy anymore. I've just resolved myself for not buying anything unless it's a souls game or a small not AAA title.
I just don’t buy anything based on hype or expectations
I wait for the masses to buy it and if i think it’s worth it i pick it up a week late
Save a lot of money this way 😂
Dev being lazy have nothing to do with games being bad, in fact the games which went through intense crunch and overwork their staffs tend to be the ones that came out poorly, development hell usually come from poor management. This "AAA devs are lazy" idea is a myth built on the lack of understanding of how games are actually made.
@@None38389he said "big gaming companies" not "devs", but I do agree with you. Devs are usually not the ones that get to decide what they do.
Street Fighter 6. The World tour mode is trash for long time players, though, it’s a shitty crappy RPG.
More of a tutorial for new players.
It's not about laziness and this detracts from the real issues plaguing the industries which is the people who actually run the company gimping their developers.
Sonic is a perfect example of this. Pretty much every Sonic game for the past decade or more has been on a rushed development cycle which doesn't give the devs enough time to actually fully develop the great ideas they have.
Man 5:25 - 8:12 is ABSOLUTELY spot on. In NO WAY is it the consumers problem how hard game dev is, or their deadlines, etc.
Yeah, but if gamers are gonna cry about it or about scummy gaming practices while not caring about how the company they are supporting mistreats workers then stop complaining. It’s just annoyingly hypocritical for someone to cry day in and day out about terrible monetization but not how devs are treated.
i get what you’re saying, but you can only really control your own feelings around things. people are going to complain about things and demand things that workers and businesses can’t provide at the moment and maybe might move the needle on it, but you can just avoid being assmad about it and enjoy the fruits of their labor while also enjoying the trash that exists while living in the moment.
trying to educate them to want less is against your interests and a waste of time when you can eat popcorn.
The United Crybabies of America
So many players buy into the company line of "we have to do [x] to make a profit". If your games are so expensive to make and still turn out shit, your company deserves to fail. _Period._
It is not the consumer's problem. We buy, _YOU_ sell. That's how it works.
@@merchant_of_kek5697preach, that was pissing me off through the whole video
I didnt think id like baldurs gate 3, i fell for the hype. It deserved the hype, i cant believe how good gameplay is. Ive never really enjoyed conversation gameplay, but thia game friggin nails it. Its shocking. The amount of stuff in this game is mind boggling.
What has been frustrating as someone who has enjoyed RPGs since I could read, is seeing the dialogue options disappear over time. Fallout 3 has a ton of different dialogue options, but most are just a way of expressing your character but lead to the same outcome. Fallout 2 had far more options and outcomes for dialogue. But the streamlining of RPGs has usually boiled down important player choices to four options "Yes." "Yes, but mean." "Repeat what you just said" and "I'll talk to you later".
@@JossCard42
BG3 has the best lines I've seen in an RPG without swamping you, and they are not afraid of being edgy at all.
@@spikertakerthats because western games gets a pass for being edgy. But if japanese games do it, they get harassed to oblivion. The hypocrisy
It's so frustrating to see your average Starfield gamer say similar things. "I picked up 100 microscopes! You can do so much in this game!!"
@@haru2966
Western games don't get a pass: dese*ualizing characters, political correctness, censorship, you name it.
Larian just doesn't give a f*** about any of it - how controversial was the bear scene? Great publicity.
Man Baldur's Gate 3 and Sea of Stars renewed my faith in games. I haven't had this much fun playing RPG's in a very long time.
If you like sea of Stars you really owe it to yourself to play chained echoes. Some other incredible games you might not have heard of which came out recently - Moonscars and blasphemous 2.
I played two hours of Baldur’s Gate 3 and when I had to get off and get ready for bed and laying in bed I think I had my first sensation of a nicotine addiction I was itching to get back on. I almost called in just to get back on. I’ve never played a DND game or even had the slightest experience with it and I was in love just like that. I’ve never felt like this about a game for a long time and can’t wait to edit the clips and share my first REAL DND experience from someone who’s barley wipe the steam off the glass to look inside.
Im almost 300 hours into this game, on my second playthrough. Making a point to be extra thorough this time and experience as much as possible, and yet im STILL missing a good amount of content. Theres just so much to this game
That's like 8-9 hours averaged a day! Are you alright?
@devinloew7681 Just wonderful. Video game addiction comes and goes thankfully. Appreciate your concern, but I'm not mad about it. Good games are worth putting time into. (: I actually work for a living, imagine how much time a streamer could put into this game
@robertfishburn8545 Damn, I'm more jealous than anything. I used to be able to put in that kind of time before full-time work. Now I'm lucky if I can game for 8 hours on a weekend night. Glad to hear you're enjoying your time with the game!
I just started over again because I''ve just been throwing stuff at the wall and sees what sticks. I just realized like 5 minutes into the game I can switch out the spell book whenever I"m not in combat. I feel so stupid.
The game is over 120gb. All the enemies you killed. Most probably have some dialogues
The last act of BG3 gets a pass because it's not quite as... fucking incredible as acts 1 and 2. Going down from a 10 to an 8 out of 10 for your last act isn't shitting the bed or fumbling the ball at the last minute. It's still great and the more you engaged with extra nonsense through the first 2 the more there is for you in the 3rd, rewarding the invenstment of your time.
I feel it is exactly that ! Im taking so much time playing through the game and I ve heard that the last act was not that good. It was long at first but now things are starting to fall together and it is insane
@@benoitb4652 act 3 is the best like it should be.
You just reminded me of last 20 minutes of Mass Effect 3, they did in fact, shit the bed :(
Honestly the city was great, the only thing I didn't like was the ending gauntlet/fight.
Act 3 wasn't an 8 lol. Act 2 was a 8, act 3 was a 4
BG3 is the best game I have played in many years. Just so much passion and thought put into this game.
i wanna play it because i just want to look at the players and environment. It looks so good but i can’t afford it so maybe in a few years it’ll be on sale
I just wanted to point out something that is very important to consider here and mainly focusing on the fact that at least we should still care about the processes. Around 7:30, Asmon starts going off about how videogames are made, and the video also talks about we should "JUST" care about the end product. I think it is also important to understand the work that is being done and the processes around it. You can't just say you only care about the product because you hear the same complaints after the fact the product is launched. The companies who really care about their client base tempers this expectation by showing you that they care, that they meticulously ensure that the standards are being met, and the mission/vision is still aligned down to the very lowest role in the company. I've been in healthcare for a decade now, I understand this is a totally different field but hear me out. We follow a LEAN concept where we avoid "defects" from ever reaching the client. There's a whole thing about "continuous improvement process", the "toyota way" etc, but I don't want to go off on that. It focuses on VALUE, but sustained process of delivering VALUE. Now lives are what we're talking about here and I get that healthcare is more critical in this field. But apply that same concept here in gaming, aren't lives also being affected here? You spent X exuberant hours playing a game, and then you complain that a certain game sucks. Now can you get that amount of time back? I think we have to start treating creating videogames with the same amount of dedication and care in making them. We should also start recognizing and putting these developers as the benchmark, who continues to deliver games and treats previous experiences. Putting previous projects in a PDSA cycle and continues to improve year in year out. This is why we keep seeing the same mistakes, the weird "silo'ed" work, as if the other teams within that company has not already resolved the issues that others are facing. Bottomline, we have to care about the process, we have to care about who we support. Do you just buy a product just as a finished product and not care about the process? Global warming, overly processed foods, carcinogens come to mind when we just blindly want a "product" and not care about how it was made.
Baldurs gate 3 is the first game in awhile I’ve truly been addicted again and putting in man hours on it.
I didn't want to play baldurs gate 3 because of the turn base mechanics and because I am not a fan of fantasy. But after playing for 100+ hours now it's the best game I've ever played.
Nothing comes close to this, this game is an evolution 10 steps forward.
Ghost of Tsushima?
That was my first impression as well. Once I started though, I kind of liked how smooth it was.
same i tried divinity and it just didnt click but im hooked on bg3 its top ten all time
Divinity 3 was my last effort and upon first browse it looks like it. I couldnt get into it. I'm hoping I will this one. xmas day purchase Im thinking...@@TOMMYDiG1TAL
Here is a very simple question for AAA studios.
"Can you make a game as good as BG3?"
If the answer is "Yes." my next question would be: "Well, then why you don't do so?"
If their answer is "No." my next question would be: "Then why should I give you 70 bucks?"
They are going to avoid answering that. They already have. It would start with 'you must understand...' or 'it's not as simple as it looks' etc
@@DoppelgangerTH The avoidance of answer is an answer by itself. =)
Because you will give them 70 bucks. As well as millions of others.
So long as their games sell, companies will make them.
They don't run a charity, they run a business.
"Audience doesn't care oh that day it was raining so the shot wasn't good. Audience walk into cinema - good movie, bad movie, that's it."
- Jackie Chan
@@cold_static Same mindset as Miyamoto in his quote about delaying games. I'm glad Nintendo still has that goodwill and they have been doing a good job maintaining it. Everyone else especially Ubi I won't buy if it is on a platform I can refund.
As much as these aaa devs want us to pity their working conditions, interviews from the larian guys seems to show that they love their job and have huge pride in their product.... and it shows.
being nearly 600 hours into BG3 and have yet to see it all, I can only say that I've waited years for such a replayable, fun game that is worth the pricetag!
If only other Devs would invest this much time and effort into bringing a good game, instead of microtransactions.
The fact that you can play this game for YEARS down the line, unlike a lot of the live service trash we get nowadays is insane to me. And it shouldn't be. Because that's literally how a game SHOULD be.
Asmons point about apologies was spot on. Because the apologies that hit home are the studios that apologize with ACTIONS. Words are cheap .. Everyone understands that sometimes bad decisions are made. And need to be unmade. But these days AAA every bad decision is sitting on 10 more bad decisions and they are afraid if they fix one bad decision you'll ask them to fix them all and the shareholders won't like that no siree!
Midway through act 3 with 130 hours and the game exceeded all my expectations. Its got good plot, gameplay, visuals, and TONS of content/volume. I havent enjoyed an rpg fantasy game this much since Dragon Age Origins maybe.
Just amazing and i cant wait to see what playing another class feels like and making different choices in a new playthrough.
Craziest thing is, even with 130hrs there is likely still things you will have to replay to see
It’s very simple: when devs (the people, not the studios) are empowered to make the decisions, we get good games. When business execs make the decisions, we get Diablo Immortal
exactly this, you need the people in charge to love gaming, and the people developing the game to actually play the game. How can you expect to write a good book or compose a good song if you dont enjoy reading or music.
i think the best possible situation is a studio like larian. Theyre privately owned so they dont need to bow to the whims of shareholders, but the guy that owns that private company is a huge nerd, especially when it comes to games. Companies are designed by nature to be top down, and if the guys at the very top dont give a shit about games, it becomes very apparent at every single level of development.
Exactly
You mean Diablo Immoral
With the exception of boss key productions. Their downfall was fun to watch though.
Profit??
Baulders Gate has given me a joy that i havent felt since Dragon Age Origins and Mass Effect 1 and 2. Its given me a world to sink my teeth into and explore every nook and cranny that the world has to offer
UI matters quite a bit. It can turn a good fun game into a chore if you have bad UI. Bad UI will also take away from immersion. Those details listed around 14m are important, and can make a huge difference.
But they do not add value (or almost never) They just need to be serviceable and not break things. What will add value are other aspects
I’ve never even played a CRPG before. BG3 was my first one and I’ve played for over 120 hours because they got me to care about the characters, my decisions in the game and the repercussions that came from it. I’ve rarely experienced that in a video game.
Try Hades :)
That's one thing I love about CRPGs, they really have a lot of meaningful choices. If you liked BG3 you should give other cRPGS a chance for sure
There are actually a lot of really good games out there but a lot of them are older. The more companies act shady, the more I turn to Good Old Games and browse there, ending up with tons of enjoyment.
@ninjason57
Welcome to the world of great CRPGs. BG3 isn't even the best. Baldur's Gate 2 is better even if it is dated and Planescape Torment. There are a lot of really great CRPGs for the very reasons you have described.
@@ramonandrajo6348 hardly.
I have bought it on console on its release. I have now put damn near 38 hours into it and man the story, A. The gameplay, A. Side quests and things to do, A. Amount of bugs, B+. Fun and creativity, A
You get side quests from completely random books that take you into deep, dangerous territory. And you can find epic items mixed in piles of junk.
The creators of this game are nuts. Nothing they do is orthodox game design and I think it's great.
Is it good on console? More immersive because you don’t leave your character?
@@aClownBaby-I’d say both PC and console for this game are great. Larian really hit a grand slam with this one for sure.
@@aClownBaby-I'm co-op'ing with 3 friends on PS5 and it's absolutely amazing.
@@cagnazzo82You can speak with all animals, they have cutscenes lines and even quests, same for most dead "creatures". You can befriend or kill everyone you meet, and when I mean kill I mean focking slaughter. Lines, scenes and gameplay for 12 classes and 46 subcalsses. Not to mention the traits and skills which literrally block or open myriad of content as skill checks. Oh and theres multiple campaigns for your and origin characters and dark urge. 10/10 tbh. There are quite some bugs tho, but which game nowadays doesnt have those, what they dont have is everything i mentioned and much more
It's insane to me that these "AAA" game companies argue that it takes millions of dollars to make a game and they need to pay their thousands of workers, when a single guy in his mum's basement can pump out a hit title that returns millions times over in profit. I would rather the companies go back to taking 2-3 years to make a game, make it quality, from developers who LOVE the product they are making and creating a vision they have in their heads, rather than turning out another Call of Doody every year at a higher price tag with less content.
Yep. I think Stardew Valley is a great example of that, solo dev who did everything (including art and music) himself, game costs like 10 USD and players are getting thousands of hours from it.
It's not for everyone, and it doesn't try to be for everyone.
I do feel kinda bad for the developers who are just doing their job because they need money to live, when they likely became developers because they're passionate about games and then the industry sucks them dry.
At the time of the video it hadn’t happened but Larian actually just dropped a bunch of “epilogue” content to help flesh out the last act a bit more
There's a lot of interesting points here that haven't been get stressed enough. A lot of companies (gaming or otherwise) strive to create an emotional connection with the user, but as a whole, the connection is only one-way. So, whenever a company makes a move toward something more anti-consumer, they have a lot of people quick to defend them. It is very rare to see the emotional tie shared back toward the user, and when it is, it usually seems like it is done to try to repair a trust that was broken so they don't lose all of their customers (e.g. something like No Man's Sky, which has been coming up with constant, substantial free updates since 2016, including stuff like a free VR version, compared to other companies that tack it on and charge full price).
As a UI producer in the business for 10 years, I can tell you 100% that the UI doesn't matter to 'certain people' as much as it does to players. Plain and simple is that you only notice bad UI.
I notice everything about UI and it’s super important. Just look at persona. Without the stylish UI you have much less of a game.
I feel like UI and sound design are some of the most overlooked aspects of game design and they both can make a big impact.@@BrainWasherAttendent
Different players want different uis too, if you look at wow for example, many people have vastly different uis that they make themselves via addons and the new edit feature.
I think the point is a UI cannot fix a fundamentally shitty game. And people can look past a bad UI for a good game look at Skyrim.
A really good point, ive never sat and thought, wow such great ui. But i have definitely noticed bad ui. I definitely under-appreciate it.
I think that a lot AAA game developers have to answer to shareholders and they in turn crank out games too quickly. It's all about turning over year over year and it's BS for us gamers
Anthem was in development for 8 years. Redfall for 6 years. Not being able to release game with such barebone mechanics and depth in worthwhile state is not issue of pressure from shareholders.
@@NEkromanT33 Sometimes, parts of game development is an experiment, a developer will spend months trying out a mechanic or design to then realise it doesn't work, and in the bin it goes and then they start making a new mechanic or system. I doubt all 8 years of work made it into the final product. That might not be true for all development, but it's rare everything goes exactly to plan.
As time goes on, budget pressure kicks in, and then serious cut backs and compromises on features get made. Either that or they go out of business.
And that's hitting the nail on the head, as soon as a studio grows big enough that they fall under or get taken over by a publisher thats (publicly) traded any form of risk taking to make a one of a kind game is a no no cause of short sighted investors and their short term goal of getting max dividend payments. Easier to crank out Fifa 24 and remakes then actually make something original.
How can you explain Starfield then?
They have to show those shareholders what they have every quarter too so i'm sure people who don't like playing games who've never made games are constantly trying to tell them what to do with their game with the goal of making more money, like how EA wanted Bioware to make dragon age 4 a live service game. Just greedy clueless fucks smearing their own paint over a professional painter's canvas.
My boi Asmogold will still farm the Baldurs gate views to the end of time.
Of course, IF game reputation is good THEN speak good about game OR IF game reputation is bad THEN speak bad about game in a nutshell, gotta grind the hate about starfield and the praise about baldur's gate because it's trendy!
Kinda sad, in a way. He is never going to get to enjoy playing these games because he wants to milk talking about them so much, and instead dumps time into something like... New World and Lost Ark.
@@jonathansoko1085People just think it is funny that he reacts to so many videos about a game he doesn't play kid.
@@jonathansoko1085 He is exactly that! farming views anyway possible, he´d react to the Barbie movie too if you pay him.
@@jonathansoko1085 He's a farmer and always will be? Like, quite literally. Like every month or few months there would be a main thing where he farms content from like the Amber Heard event.
I am extremely picky about the games I play now. If companies cannot provide a great game out of the box, I will decline. The problem for me is now many AAA companies have lost my trust. I will hold my money for something more deserving. Imbecile companies expecting otherwise are just a waste of my time.
The difference on the debacle for FF14 is, Yoshi-P came out, was humble and said what the issues were and how they were gonna deal with it to "get where it needed to be".
and to add on that, Yoshi-P is very open about the vision and "what were gonna do" otherwise, so FF has gotten a lot of "good will" in the playerbases eyes, did some stuff suck? yes.
did some players quit? yes. were some players mad? yes.
Yoshi-P still went out, took the blame as the "I am in charge, this is my fault" he may have pointed at different factors, but he still took the blame.
I don't see Kotick doing that, Blizzard went and put 3 nervous guys to break the news on the "no PvE" (shut it, I know they released something of the sort, but it wasn't IT).
Yoshi-P went out there knowing, this would affect images of him, but did it anyhow, Kotick is sitting and (sorry for the expression) wiping his ass with 100$ bills and couldn't give 2 fucks about whom or what has been affected.
IMO, the way I can tell Bg3 is a fundamentally good game is down to the fact I hate turn based games, yet tried it due to the reviews and friends suggesting it and I'm fucking addicted, best game I've played since ER
You don't hate turn-based games. You just hate bad games in the turn-based genre.
Honestly, there are a lot of genres I'd say just aren't for me, but I'd be willing to put good money down that if someone made the right kind of game in that genre, even I would play it and love the shit out of it.
Games are fun. When they're designed right, just about anyone can enjoy them. It just has to fit whatever your lizard brain finds satisfying.
i dont think ive ever been this addicted to a game since a LONG long time , 450 hours of Baldurs Gate and still replaying it
How? I played about to hours and just never picked it up again? What is it with these types of games that sucks people in. I’m not hating., I really don’t get it tho.
@@elohel3293 if you ve only played two hours you havent really given it a chance, there are so many items , secrets, characters, stories, so you just arrived at the Emerald grove and decided to help the Tieflings and you were like 'nah bro games not for me' while youre still in the tutorial basically
@@elohel3293there exists a possibility that people may be different from you and like different things?
@@SupremeDouchebaggery I am in no way hating on the game. It looks amazing. I found out that it’s the combat system that does it for me. I feel limited in what I can do. I gave the game to my brother and he fell in love with it since he played d&d as a kid.
@@elohel3293For me, it’s the role playing aspect that keeps me around.
Baldur's gate is so good that it is one of my favorite games atm. I am not a fan AT ALL of turn based games and yet i havent had this much fun since the xbox360 days with Halo.
Best part is i have maybe only spent like 80 hours into the game for over the past month but it feels like i have played it so much more than i thought i did and i am only in my first playthrough together with my girlfriend. We are constantly talking about how we gonna do things next time in our other runs.
It feels like forever i was this interested in a game and that i enjoyed co op this much as well and this is a game that is quite the opposite of my favorite genres.
I haven’t indulged in a game this much since my first mass effect playthrough.
I generally agree that recognizing an actor in a game is jarring, but you can never go wrong with casting J. K. Simmons
This is simple, the companies aren't willing to sacrifice their standards on pricing if we have financial issues, so it's only fair that we aren't willing to sacrifice our standards on quality because of their production issues.
As a software engineer I would love to work at this fantasy corp where devs actually get to make decisions about anything - you’re told “we want exactly this, now build it “
Sounds like you would like to work at an indie/small company - you have to wear more hats as a result, and do less of your "actual role", but you get massive creative freedom.
I think everyone can concur that when 30 layers of middle and upper level management who spend most of their time having unproductive, marathon long meetings are involved, nothing gets done.
BG3 vs most modern AAA games = Making the best possible game that can be made for players to enjoy VS making somewhat good enough game and advertise it enough for developers to sell.
Of corse it goes much deeper.
BG3 has me no longer playing WoW which I have played for easily 12+ years. I recognize that I have been playing WoW solely based on the sunk cost fallacy. I no longer played the game cause I wanted to, I felt that I had to. BG3 was extremely eye opening to me on what an amazing game SHOULD feel like. I have laughed, stayed up late and have been extremely invested Something I haven't felt since WoW first release, or even back when Heroes of Might and Magic 2 & 3 came out (showing my age here a little lol). It's been so nice to play a game that is fully fleshed out, and not paying premium for bones of a game expecting DLCs to complete the game.
HOMM mentioned! 11/10.
HOMM3 was MY JAM.
Based take, gamer confirmed. I felt the same about other mmos I played. I went into bg3 and was blown away at the resolution options that you simply dont see in other games.
Yup, I played WoW since vanilla and added FFXIV a couple years ago. Have not touched either since BG3 released and have no desire to go back. It felt like a second job.
@@mkeller7881 Yea FFXIV as much as I love it (played it nonstop for the past couple years), I have not given it one single thought ever since diving into BG3 lol and dont feel like going back either!
One (not the only) aspect to take away from Larian's success is they are privately owned and the owner and leadership are making the games they do, because they wanna make good fun games.
Most (if not all) of those big and bigger + publicly owned companies...well, specifically their leadership/bosses/owners make games to make money first and good game second. Viewed in this way, it explains the microtransactions and other predatory monetization mechanics being built into the game design.
Larian got royally screwed over by publishers often enough so the owner/founder/ceo/creative director Swen Vincke kicked them out and went indie. They have been making money and good games since.
Well sadly they fired most of the good devs throughout the development of BG3 in favor of diversity hires which is why the later half is so much worse and its so flooded with wokeness now.
Why is BG3 so good? It's simple. NEVER, not ONCE in my 500 hours of Baldurs Gate 3 have I felt like I'm fetching a macguffin. NOT ONCE. Each quest is a story, a real engaging story, with history, relevance, and impact. That's why it's fun to play.
A lot of that relies on it being based off of DnD, but I think a larger part relies on Larian being amazing storytellers that make even the most mundane of quests feel engaging. Not to mention, they know how to subvert expectations properly. Right off the nautiloid you think you're going straight into a town through that big front door you walk up to, but instead, they make you traverse the nearby wreckage and the wilderness in search of a village or town. That alone drew me into the world's exploration.
This. Most triple A companies today simply disguise their mediocre and grindy quests behind flashy action and spectacular visuals, however a well polished turd still remains a turd.
Petition to make asmongold play Baldurs Gate
how bout let him play what the fuck he wants
I worked in a ramen shop where the servers were mad at me because they weren't being tipped enough despite the fact that they only had two fryers lol and I was just thinking surely they know the boss is who controls the tips and their SALARY. As you said if the job is not for you then don't blame others
That's why they work in ramen
BG3 last act isn't even that bad anymore. Sure needs some performance improvements, but they have been delivering on that and they have more coming up.
Bait and switch
As a 31 year old dude who's been gaming since i could hold anything i can tell you this:
Playing BG3 was a similar experience as it was playing world of warcraft for the first time.
Nothing was what you'd expect, everything had to be figured out through either reading the tooltips or playing the game. It was amazing!
Ever since mists of pandaria launched/ended i've been wondering if i outgrew video games. I'm glad BG3 proved me wrong in that regard.
I'm not too old for video games, and i also haven't seen all there is meaning that anything newly released just feels bland and dull.
Developers just suck lately. It's all a massive cash grab and no one cares about delivering a finished and actually enjoyable product.
Halo infinite was in development for 10+ years. I call bullshit on them working on it for that long. I mean look at manor lords. Saying your game has been in development for that long just creates a hype. Because it took that long it has to be good, right?
GTAV has been running for over 10 years where people can buy 8 milion (wich basicly means fuck all) for 80 euro's.
It's complete bullshit.
A great take. I'm a huge fan of CD Projekt Red, they earned enough "currency" from me on the Witcher 3 that when Cyber Punk came out I was like: Yeah okay this is not good. It has potential but its current state to me is not worth what i Pre Ordered for. But I trust their intentions and their competency to eventually get it right and the game is a lot better today than it is at launch. Will I pre order from them again? Probably not, they lost some currency on the state of CP 2077 at launch vs what they advertised. If Witcher 4 isn't good they'll lose even more or if its good they'll earn some back.
The Currency analogy is just spot on. The other thing that irks me is they act like Gamers are completely ignorant of how games are made. If that was the case you wouldn't hear the phrase "and can you believe this was made by X (a small) number of people? That statement right there says: " My value proposition was met so well that I can't believe this didn't cost more to make, or wasn't expecting it for some other reason". It means the game had features, style, or some other factor that was done to the complete satisfaction of the user.
If you know Lean Six Sigma (a project management and efficiency course I imagine many project managers at game companies have taken) they call those "delighters" or: A "delighter is a feature, also called latent requirements, that is not basic and expected but desirable and unexpected". It's not our job as the consumer to know this stuff but my point is that these big companies have people who's job it is to know and understand these concepts. If you don't scale well from the small company that delighted us and end up being the multi million/billion dollar company that dissatisfies us, that's not our failure as the consumer.
Instead of trying to denigrate Larian you should be celebrating their success and taking inspiration. I heard the (former) CEO of the company I work for say something to the extent of we should celebrate the success of our competition because it should inspire us and drive us to do better. He said that is what drives innovation, "It's not about being right, its about getting it right."
I really love this game! I love how challenging it is and the storyline is epic!!
I’m new to the dnd universe and it took me 5hours and eventually my bf’s help to defeat a simple minion. My bf laughed because all I needed was a cleric buff.
I hope the developers continue to make amazing dnd campaigns like this.
Challenging… Imagine my shock when I started on balanced thinking it wasn’t going to be too hard. 😂
People forget that other AAA devolopers that used to make good games are owned by publishers like EA and Activision that push the worst aspect of gaming into each of these companies and wear down the employees.
This isnt an excuse for how it is, i hate modern gaming. But a company like Larian is running their team in a way that has good pacing and makes sense for their team to make a good game and i hope that never changes.
Balders Gate 3 was a fantastic game, beginning to end. It had its issues, but it could be overlooked simply because it was a great experience that made me care about the characters and story. ER and TOTK were fantastic too. Give Nintendo credit, when they put out a game, it is ready to go.
Exactly. Were there issues? Of course, for me (spoilers) the Orin fight was bugged the first time and none of the enemies did anything on their time, but hey it was a little funny the first time so after blasting them freely for some fun I just reloaded and did the fight normally when it worked. Were there things I wish had been included, like uses for rope? Yeah duh, but there was still so much creativity and intricate storytelling that I don’t really care there are minor issues.
Does GameFreak count as Nintendo? Because the last Pokemon double bill was a bit of a shitshow on Switch.
@stegotops7415 That's funny, knowing what D&D entails, I started the game hoarding rope because I thought they would come in handy
@@robertfishburn8545 Same, I was like "I can't wait to use all this rope" and then the first time I wanted to get down a ledge I realized I couldn't use it for anything lol
@@MrDucktastic I would imagine when he says nintendo he would mean games developed by Nintendo (1st party), Pokemon is 2nd party.
i think the main reason for having ingame currencies isn't to obfuscate how much money is spent (though that is probably a reason). i think the main reason is so that they can do the thing where a skin or something costs 500 of that currency and you can only buy it in incements of 200, 400, 1100 and so on and make each individual point cheaper if you buy them in bulk. that way you'd have to buy at least 600 and the last 200 are more expensive per point compared to the last 100 you'd have missing if a 500 option existed. additionally, now that you had to buy 600, you'll have 100 left sitting around and since people see that as wasted they are more inclined to buy something else with those points, even if they have to spend extra money to do so.
30:27 : What a spot-on sentiment this was and it does happen, and seemingly will continue to. As an example, CD Project Red, shortly after the release of Phantom Liberty, announced they're transitioning their focus to a new title and will no longer support Cyberpunk 2077.
Tavern brawler berserker is actually the most fun I've had with games in a while. It just *feels good*. I'm not too too far in (cleaning up act 1 still) but just ran into an enemy who feared my entire team... Disarmed? No problem. Throw the closest object to Knockdown the big baddy right into my nature cleric's field of thorns
Tavern Brawler Berserkers are hands down the best Act 1 experience IMHO because almost every enemy you come across is small and light enough to use as a weapon 😂
Working in the industry I see studios and publishers throw soooo much money out the window via simple carelessness or mismanagement.
It's insulting to see them trying to justify triple A prices, and raising that price, when you see how much money they are wasting during development.
Comparatively, some studios are extremely efficient and well managed. Some indie and smaller studios get 1/10th of the budget and make sure every dollar is used well.
And the ironic part is that those devs and publishers who are more conscientious generally charge significantly less for their product, for doing their job better.
THRY ACTUALLY FIXED THE ACT 3 , AND IT WAS THE MOST FASTEST DEPLOYED PATCH OF ALL TIMES
Oh but Larian Studios has a not so secret secret. They have a studio in Canada, a few in Europe and one in Malaysia. They pass the work around the globe at the end of the working day to the guys that just woke up. They are all 9 to 5 ers not worked to death. Clear minds 24h a day.
I feel as though bg3 brought back the passion i felt from the older final fantasy games, 8-13, its just this sense of pride and more you can feel they put in. Larian is putting out hot fixes and still introducing things, its incredible to see a franchise be LOVED by its creators, like a tiny indie game with a cult following, except its a company with the funding to make a message.
I'm glad people like Asmongold amplifying voices like this with their reaction/reply videos. originally this video had 250k views, thanks to this channel it bumped up to a million.
"I'll gladly give you a videogame on Tuesday if you pay for it today" - AAA devs
I'm old enough to get this reference
8:33 its like thinking that I hate or love a farmer based on how hard it was to grow the banana i bought from a store was. I dont care about the farmer or how hard it was to grow the banana i just want my banana and I want it to be good
7:09 EXACTLY! We don’t care about the process. If i don’t like the taste of a food, I’m not going to buy it based off of an appreciation for “the process it took to be made” 😂
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I’ve never once in my life wanted to play a turned based ga besides Valkyrie profile two, EVER I just spend 9 consecutive hours having the most fun I’ve had in gaming in the past 3-4 years in this game alone.
"its a flip of the coin both sides are tails" *used car salesan smirk* i laughed so hard the milk i was drinking came out of my nose so true
Diablo4 was the best thing to happen to BG3 ever. Also BG3 changing their release date till after D4 made them millions. Genius move.
Act 3 was really good... i just got so overwhelmed with the city of Baldur's Gate that I just went ahead and plowed through the game at that point
Same. Playing it the second time, I'm starting to realize how dense Act 3 is.
@robertfishburn8545 oh yeah I know it's gotta be thick af. I didn't do Astasion's stuff, and just straight up did the necessary stuff to get the credits to roll... next up in the Evil Barbarian playthrough then the Heroic Paladin on Tactician... easily have another 150 hours until the Platinum
Is it sad that when I load up Baldurs gate, I get real happy with the start menu, there is just like New Game, Load Game, Resume, Options etc, and no store or like promotions for the week. Its sad that its nice because it just feels like what games used to be.
49:50 Dude, Neversoft used to have some heavy weights under their belt and now they are completly forgotten
It was such a wake up call that Asmon keeps playing cruddy games.
Bro's a professional reaction streamer..... what a life
At least he adds something to the videos he's reacting to.
dude who hasn't worked for 10+ years criticizing people who complain about 80 hour work weeks
I'm curious why Grim Dawn flies under the radar so often. The value in that game is absolutely phenomenal.
I dont know either. Maybe it came out at the wrong time or something
I honestly think it's because of how dated it looks. But yes, very solid arpg
@blakegallegos1064 it's graphics are fine what are you talking bout. Dated is fucking Syphon Filter for ps1 or og crash bandicoot etc. Grim Dawn isn't dated.
Feel it's more it's something else cause Grim Dawn is amazing.
So true.
No devs I know were critical of Bg3--we learned from it, they love it, they're inspired by it--myself included. All I want in this world is to be able to make games like bg3.
I think people talk about developers and publishers interchangeable. I think developers are pretty fine with BG3 while most publishers are not ;-)
@@igorthelight When you say publishers, are you talking about marketing, finance and the people who figure out what the requirements are for games shipping on Xbox/PS? In my experience those people have little interaction with the actual dev team. Much of my time has been spent over the last 2 months figuring out how to reverse engineer how they were able to make so much story content so quickly. There are a lot of unique things about Larian that helped BG3 become the masterpiece that it is (they already had worked out the systems and the engine, so they didn't need to build those things and they could focus all their dev effort on the incredibly complex tree of story outcomes). A company like Blizzard also has a high commitment to not shipping with certain kinds of bugs--bugs that BG3 shipped with that didn't seem to negatively impact the actual play experience that much, but would have been VERY expensive (in terms of engineering hours) to fix. We spend a TON of effort fixing bugs because of the idea of Blizzard polish, one of my biggest takeaways is that I'm not actually sure how worth it some of these bugs are to fix. We constrain ourselves in what we are willing to attempt because we are worried about how many bugs a certain execution might create. Maybe we have the wrong balance there, and we should attempt more complex things and be ok with that causing more bugs and the game shipping with those bugs unfixed.
The wake up call was common sense. I'm annoyed it took until Baldur's gate 3 for it to hit the sheep, but hopefully it sticks. Then maybe I can start enjoying games again for fun and not just be stuck with watered down distractions that want to pound my puckerfish for every cent I have.
The one thing I can't stand about Baldur's Gate 3 is the action bar. Its so messy, all the time. If you switch abilities tied to equipment or spell slots you have to re-order them whenever a change happens unless you can stand the chaos of your melee action being anywhere instead of in one place. The rest of the UI is alright honestly.
This reminds me of when Steam introduced refunds and a bunch of indie devs started complaining about it and thus admitting that their games where shit and most people would ask for a refund if they could get one. If you can't convince a person they spent their money well and leave them wanting to buy more of your games as opposed to refunding what they already bought then that's your problem. This is the exact same thing. AAA studios can't be expected to put out a finished product? Then wtf are we expected to buy it?
So true on the reviewers! I’m 95 hours into one play through (220+ hours played) and I’m still not through all of lower city. Reviewers should have to post their time played to source credibility.
Not that you can’t get a good idea of the game 30 hours into act 1 but it’s definitely not a review of the full product.
I also like it how people love Baldurs Gate 3 so much that they are wanting a DLC for the game which is rare.
With DnD finally meeting a (more than) acceptable conversion from pen and paper to video game they have the possibility to release existing campaigns from DnD to PC and I am 100% sure that I'm not the only one who would spend money on that. Just the thought of being able to play a DnD campaign with 1 or 2 players is really neat.
My three favorite games were made with crazy time and/or budget issues. Pathologic (og and 2), Fallout New Vegas, and BG3. Budget and time are used as a scapegoat, when priorities are the real problem. A playthrough of Pathologic is only about 25 hours and the animation is pretty ugly, but the storytelling is phenomenal. Smaller games with a tight story and clear focus are loved for years and years. Gamers aren't stupid. We know laziness and greed when we play it.
You know, it's funny hearing these arguments. I'm an old head. I just turned 44 this year. I remember when games came out and they were finished products and any bugs they weren't fixed, so in a sense you bought what you got and any s*** games you just got company pretty much went under or their titles were scorned. I mean, I'm talking old atari nintendo super nintendo segagenesis playstation eccentric, it's a completely different market now. With online games where they can push out a shit product and expected to pay full price, and then try and nickle and dine you to pay for the fixes later.