I have the 686 Silver Pigeon with the Vittoria option - it has a Monte Carlo Stock that is higher than the regular stock. It was designed for female shooters - smaller grip and shorter length of pull as well. As a small woman this was the first time a gun fit me properly. I love it.
I have a 2018 686 Silver Pigeon and it's been 100% problem free, except for the Fit. After purchasing a well used 1992 vintage Browning Citori I discovered that Browning's fit me much better. However I purchased the 686 as a reward for surviving open heart surgery so I am rather attached to it. My solution was to purchase a "spare" stock from Beretta's US parts supplier. The stock is an adjustable comb stock for the 682 Gold E and it is old enough that it's hand checkered with EELL quality wood. Lacking the Shooting School system in England I had to spend a year experimenting how to get that comb set so it shoots like my Browning but it's now dialed in perfectly.
Got my 686 SP1 Game 30 inch in 12ga about 4 months ago. I LOVE it for shooting clays. Only thing I hated was the factory recoil pad - it is sh*t. I swapped it out for a Limbsaver and now it's a complete joy. I considered disabling the auto-safety (it engages safety anytime the action is opened), but after using it a few times I've realized it's not too difficult to disengage after loading to shoot clays be it for trap, sporting clays, or skeet. For field hunting the auto-safety is a good feature in my opinion.
I love auto safety. Always used them and don't think about them when it comes to turning it off just before I mount the gun. If you are used to it then even double gunning works because of when you switch it off, and then you are safer should it get dropped or fingers count inn the trigger somehow grabbing it to stop it falling.
Well, I ended up removing the metal tab that provides the auto safety. I removed it nondestructively so I can put it back....but I bet I never will. One year in I still LOVE it.
I have a 2007 beretta 686E although not a silver pigeon it’s in the same 680 range , brought it as my first gun, second hand in 2019 use it for clays and game and love it! No complaints
I own an older 686 and the new ones have longer forcing cones, shoot smoother (less recoil) and are lighter by close to a pound. The machining is great and very comfortable to handle. We are not chubby fellows with chubby cheeks so all is great for our fits!!! I have owned beretta over n unders (3) for over 27 years. They work wonderfully and never had a problem with any of them. I’m going to pass these shotguns to my children but after I can’t shoot no more. I love them better than the heavy logs of Browning.
got my silver pigeon sporting a few months, complete with Bfast adjustable stock, it is heavier and therefore even less recoil....works very good for me.
I have owned my 686 F/C for 33 years. It has a beautiful stock and it handle as sweet as a S/S game gun. I've used it for rough shooting. pigeon decoying and driven game. ( pulled down some very high pheasants) and of course occasional sporting clays. It's not the only Beretta that I own, 687 EELL, al391, but it's my main gun and it's never let me down. I bought a field/ game gun, not a clay gun. Make sure that the model of gun that you buy suits what you want to use it for. I have several guns in my cabinet, not one of them is a clay gun. as I so far I've had little use for a clay gun. Now that I'm starting to get older ( 75 years) I will start to shoot more clays. so I will buy a heavier multi choke competition gun. Beretta of course.
I recently bought an ex-demo silver pigeon. The lower comb suited me fine, I would say I have a longer thinner face. I put a thicker recoil pad on it, found it slightly short. Tried brownings and bettinsolis and the combs were way too high for me
Started with a silver pigeon 1 and must have put at least 20, 000 shells thru it without any issue ever, now have a silver pigeon three 2021 model and love it even more, nicer engraving and much nicer wood, and still a beautiful shooter, I have put an adjustable come on it, but not to raise the height but to bring it closer to my cheek on the Mount, this has improved my scores no end, can’t fault the silver pigeon range, they are great guns.
Still top manufacturer for game guns, and as a loader , no fiddly time consuming actions to clean, first manufacturer to chrome line the bores, easy cleaning, my experience loading, ultra reliable. I own a DT10EELL use it for everything, can’t fault it at all, if I miss it’s me not the gun.
I have an SP1 field, CG Summit Sporter, and a Browning 725 sporter. The browning, ehh. The CG is very comfortable. But my favorite is the SP1--it just handles better
David often talks about comb height. In this case identifying the 686 as being a little low in the comb. But compared to the 525 it is 1 3/8 compared to 1 1/2 . Height at heel 2 1/4 compared to 2 3/4 (for the 525). So which is higher in the comb?
2 of these in the house, one is 30ish years old, one about 8. The old one has a little better wood to metal fit, the metal on the old one seems a bit less prone to oxidation. The wood on the old one was oil for yourself, it's nicer than the new standard. The schnabel? Foreend on the old one is nicer. The extractors are a tiny bit better fitted on the old, better tolerance than the new. They are low on the comb and need a little cast. Excellent value for money.
Beretta vs Browning Browning is an American company and like their cars say a mustang or an f100 they are big rugged and great in a straight line, Italians only make cars like Ferrari, Maserati, and Lamborghini….. there is a cultural difference, and it also comes through their guns. Signed Beretta fan
@@raydavies7328 browning had a nearly exclusive deal with winchester till winny balked at his autoloader designs. browning took em to FN and the browning belgium tradition took off...
Yes, I learnt that Mr Browning was manly a gun designer selling his successful designs to the likes of Winchester but he recognised the merit of his auto 5. Instead of selling the design he wanted to license the right to manufacture the gun and take a cut of the profits, FN Belgium accepted the condition and the rest is history, having said that I stand to be corrected.
handled a fair few 690 series guns at work David and personally thought they were soulless. very chunky, felt very machine made, average quality wood. however, my 682 gold is a lot slimmer to the touch, full of life and is much more a joy to shoot... wouldn't give it up for any other gun! older berettas have my heart.
I have a 2018 686 sporter and have had to send it in for warranty work which made it bearable but definitely did not completely fix the issues. The trigger was not resetting for the second shot which is frustrating. The selector also moves after shots and gets jammed between the two selections which in turns locks up the break lever. Not sure if I will be keeping it long term.
Looking for a new gun some years ago I fancied one of these to replace my ageing worn out Miroku 3800. I was loaned an old one by my RFD to try but he pushed me towards a Miroku MK38 sporter which was a better fit. Fit being very important. I liked the Berreta but in the end my friend bought it and I the MK38. 5 years on, both guns still handle well but honestly the MK38 was by far the better buy.
Hav 686 20 bore about year and half. About 6k rounds beautiful gun. Sweet shooter. Fits me fine. Still hav my a400 for clay fun. Turns the clays into dust
Never owned one , shot one once and it was new and a bit stiff so had to force the barrels down to load shells . My own gun was a Miroku MK38 which was smooth as silk and opens and closes like the changes of a Jaguar XJ auto gearbox . Maybe I should have shot a broken in Beretta and the comparison would have been fair . I should get one in the future if the funds allow 🤔
I am a Browning man through and through but went out today with a Silver Pigeon Game gun for the first time ever. Shot a very good round of clays with it and came away with high gun prize. Still think I would have shot more with my Pro Sport though 😊
I really struggled to get on with my game spec beretta SP1 a 2018 model i could never get comfortable with it and had a few issues with the inertia block back to it went back to gmk 3 times with only 1000 cartridges through it i always got face slapped with it even with 28 gram cartridges i’ve since learnt a lot about gun fit a sporter would of been a better fit i think that SP1 is a great gun but there a little too low for me at 6ft 7
I've had my 686 28 inch sporter for over 35 years. Put 100-200 shells through it a month, it's miss-fired once, do you think I can claim on the warranty? It shoots where I look and I use it for sporting,skeet,DTL,compac, and generally finnish with a respectable score. I've looked at replacing it but can't bear to retire old faithful.
Baretta is the hallmark of O/U shotguns . DO NOT ever forget the Browing Superposed, they ran right up there with Baretta. Go get your limits of pheasants and quail, Partridge too. Bam! Bam! Bam!
I have a chance to buy a Beretta 686 onyx pro 12 ga, with 6 chokes, original blue hard case, gun is in mint condition barely fired if at all. $1,800.00 US dollars. I’ll probably pass on it, I do t have that much to spend although it’s a beautiful gun, probably 25 to 30 years old, but again pretty much new unfired.
I can’t help but laugh When it comes to beretta You try your best to be positive and neutral about the guns But your whole body face and voice expressions Says something completely different Disliking a gun or loving a gun It’s an emotion that can’t be helped And it shows when shooting
No mention of Browning through the whole video - well done The Browning Channel
😄
Thats like a special episode on Porche/Mondeo and complaining that they didn't mention Corvettes/Volvo
Screw Browning shotguns. Beretta all the way.
I have the 686 Silver Pigeon with the Vittoria option - it has a Monte Carlo Stock that is higher than the regular stock. It was designed for female shooters - smaller grip and shorter length of pull as well. As a small woman this was the first time a gun fit me properly. I love it.
I have a 2018 686 Silver Pigeon and it's been 100% problem free, except for the Fit. After purchasing a well used 1992 vintage Browning Citori I discovered that Browning's fit me much better. However I purchased the 686 as a reward for surviving open heart surgery so I am rather attached to it. My solution was to purchase a "spare" stock from Beretta's US parts supplier. The stock is an adjustable comb stock for the 682 Gold E and it is old enough that it's hand checkered with EELL quality wood. Lacking the Shooting School system in England I had to spend a year experimenting how to get that comb set so it shoots like my Browning but it's now dialed in perfectly.
Got my 686 SP1 Game 30 inch in 12ga about 4 months ago. I LOVE it for shooting clays. Only thing I hated was the factory recoil pad - it is sh*t. I swapped it out for a Limbsaver and now it's a complete joy. I considered disabling the auto-safety (it engages safety anytime the action is opened), but after using it a few times I've realized it's not too difficult to disengage after loading to shoot clays be it for trap, sporting clays, or skeet. For field hunting the auto-safety is a good feature in my opinion.
I love auto safety.
Always used them and don't think about them when it comes to turning it off just before I mount the gun.
If you are used to it then even double gunning works because of when you switch it off, and then you are safer should it get dropped or fingers count inn the trigger somehow grabbing it to stop it falling.
How is the recoil? I am looking at same configuration
@@christopherhearell2837 get these newer 686’s the are lighter and less recoil, hardly any at all.
Well, I ended up removing the metal tab that provides the auto safety. I removed it nondestructively so I can put it back....but I bet I never will. One year in I still LOVE it.
I have a 2007 beretta 686E although not a silver pigeon it’s in the same 680 range , brought it as my first gun, second hand in 2019 use it for clays and game and love it! No complaints
I own an older 686 and the new ones have longer forcing cones, shoot smoother (less recoil) and are lighter by close to a pound. The machining is great and very comfortable to handle. We are not chubby fellows with chubby cheeks so all is great for our fits!!! I have owned beretta over n unders (3) for over 27 years. They work wonderfully and never had a problem with any of them. I’m going to pass these shotguns to my children but after I can’t shoot no more. I love them better than the heavy logs of Browning.
Same I think the brownings are truely horrendous, but I have a mate with one and he’s spectacular with it. It’s surely just me and not the browning. 😊
I have a 2020 beretta silver pigeon and have put over 3000 shells through it and i have had ZERO problems. Amazing shotgun.
Had the new 2019 model 16 months now with over 15000 through it and its been great, Im 5'10 the comb seems perfect for me.
Theres slot more to it than just being fat or skinny as far as gun fit, not sure why he says that every time he picks up a Beretta.
got my silver pigeon sporting a few months, complete with Bfast adjustable stock, it is heavier and therefore even less recoil....works very good for me.
I own 3 of them and love!!! Thanks for reviewing them!!!
Spot on commentary. Will look to see if I experience the low comb issue. Many thanks
I have owned my 686 F/C for 33 years. It has a beautiful stock and it handle as sweet as a S/S game gun. I've used it for rough shooting. pigeon decoying and driven game. ( pulled down some very high pheasants) and of course occasional sporting clays. It's not the only Beretta that I own, 687 EELL, al391, but it's my main gun and it's never let me down. I bought a field/ game gun, not a clay gun. Make sure that the model of gun that you buy suits what you want to use it for. I have several guns in my cabinet, not one of them is a clay gun. as I so far I've had little use for a clay gun. Now that I'm starting to get older ( 75 years) I will start to shoot more clays. so I will buy a heavier multi choke competition gun. Beretta of course.
I own 2 686’s 12 and 20 guage and both are perfect shooting shotguns!!! The 20 ga is light but I can work with it
That's nicer camera work now 👌👍
I recently bought an ex-demo silver pigeon. The lower comb suited me fine, I would say I have a longer thinner face. I put a thicker recoil pad on it, found it slightly short. Tried brownings and bettinsolis and the combs were way too high for me
I have one three years old , 20000 cartridges plus . It’s been fine
I’ve had one for almost 10
Years and love it.
Have a 2021 694 and it’s an utter machine!! 20k shells and it is still tight as day one, not a single problem with heavy or light
Started with a silver pigeon 1 and must have put at least 20, 000 shells thru it without any issue ever, now have a silver pigeon three 2021 model and love it even more, nicer engraving and much nicer wood, and still a beautiful shooter, I have put an adjustable come on it, but not to raise the height but to bring it closer to my cheek on the Mount, this has improved my scores no end, can’t fault the silver pigeon range, they are great guns.
Still top manufacturer for game guns, and as a loader , no fiddly time consuming actions to clean, first manufacturer to chrome line the bores, easy cleaning, my experience loading, ultra reliable. I own a DT10EELL use it for everything, can’t fault it at all, if I miss it’s me not the gun.
I have an SP1 field, CG Summit Sporter, and a Browning 725 sporter. The browning, ehh. The CG is very comfortable. But my favorite is the SP1--it just handles better
David often talks about comb height. In this case identifying the 686 as being a little low in the comb. But compared to the 525 it is 1 3/8 compared to 1 1/2 . Height at heel 2 1/4 compared to 2 3/4 (for the 525). So which is higher in the comb?
Hi David You Mention the Silver Pigeon sporter having a adjustable trigger. I have never seen one on this model only on the Gold and Gold Es
2 of these in the house, one is 30ish years old, one about 8.
The old one has a little better wood to metal fit, the metal on the old one seems a bit less prone to oxidation.
The wood on the old one was oil for yourself, it's nicer than the new standard.
The schnabel? Foreend on the old one is nicer.
The extractors are a tiny bit better fitted on the old, better tolerance than the new.
They are low on the comb and need a little cast.
Excellent value for money.
Got one for years ! Love it ! O, had the automatic safety removed on day one ! Irritating as hell !!
How did you do it? Is it easy?
Beretta vs Browning
Browning is an American company and like their cars say a mustang or an f100 they are big rugged and great in a straight line, Italians only make cars like Ferrari, Maserati, and Lamborghini….. there is a cultural difference, and it also comes through their guns.
Signed
Beretta fan
Browning Arms Company were an American company, the marque is now owned by a Belgian company, the Herstal Group.
@@raydavies7328 browning had a nearly exclusive deal with winchester till winny balked at his autoloader designs. browning took em to FN and the browning belgium tradition took off...
Yes, I learnt that Mr Browning was manly a gun designer selling his successful designs to the likes of Winchester but he recognised the merit of his auto 5. Instead of selling the design he wanted to license the right to manufacture the gun and take a cut of the profits, FN Belgium accepted the condition and the rest is history, having said that I stand to be corrected.
@@raydavies7328
Well there you go…. Probably better than selling it to the Chinese I guess
handled a fair few 690 series guns at work David and personally thought they were soulless. very chunky, felt very machine made, average quality wood. however, my 682 gold is a lot slimmer to the touch, full of life and is much more a joy to shoot... wouldn't give it up for any other gun! older berettas have my heart.
The Comb is perfect for me :) it’s a great gun.
The browning is a bit too high
kind of expected him to be a better shot haha
I have a 2018 686 sporter and have had to send it in for warranty work which made it bearable but definitely did not completely fix the issues. The trigger was not resetting for the second shot which is frustrating. The selector also moves after shots and gets jammed between the two selections which in turns locks up the break lever. Not sure if I will be keeping it long term.
Looking for a new gun some years ago I fancied one of these to replace my ageing worn out Miroku 3800. I was loaned an old one by my RFD to try but he pushed me towards a Miroku MK38 sporter which was a better fit. Fit being very important. I liked the Berreta but in the end my friend bought it and I the MK38. 5 years on, both guns still handle well but honestly the MK38 was by far the better buy.
Hav 686 20 bore about year and half. About 6k rounds beautiful gun. Sweet shooter. Fits me fine. Still hav my a400 for clay fun. Turns the clays into dust
Never owned one , shot one once and it was new and a bit stiff so had to force the barrels down to load shells . My own gun was a Miroku MK38 which was smooth as silk and opens and closes like the changes of a Jaguar XJ auto gearbox . Maybe I should have shot a broken in Beretta and the comparison would have been fair . I should get one in the future if the funds allow 🤔
Really good I have a 687 I really like it good video ceip up the good videos
I am a Browning man through and through but went out today with a Silver Pigeon Game gun for the first time ever. Shot a very good round of clays with it and came away with high gun prize. Still think I would have shot more with my Pro Sport though 😊
or a £2000 Perazzi !
I really struggled to get on with my game spec beretta SP1 a 2018 model i could never get comfortable with it and had a few issues with the inertia block back to it went back to gmk 3 times with only 1000 cartridges through it i always got face slapped with it even with 28 gram cartridges i’ve since learnt a lot about gun fit a sporter would of been a better fit i think that SP1 is a great gun but there a little too low for me at 6ft 7
I think most people who watch this channel know how tall you are by now as you always bring it into your conversation like your proud of it.
I'm a huge beretta fan with the al390's but just can't get along with the 686/687, too light and whippy. Love the extra heft of the browning o/u's
I have a new sporting model and it doesn’t have an adjustable trigger (to my knowledge).
How do you get rid of the auto safety? Not a fan
If I wanted a 686 for both sporting clays and hunting which model would be the best compromise?
Sporter. Because of the wider rib and vented barrels. Much more practical
I own 2 and I love them both
I’m kind of envious of the prices of used shotguns in the U.K. In the USA, used ones are almost as expensive as new ones.
I've had my 686 28 inch sporter for over 35 years. Put 100-200 shells through it a month, it's miss-fired once, do you think I can claim on the warranty? It shoots where I look and I use it for sporting,skeet,DTL,compac, and generally finnish with a respectable score. I've looked at replacing it but can't bear to retire old faithful.
Best gun for the money
I have the sporter, its great no problems.
what kind of shooting vest do you wear?
Respect
How tall are you? Since you mentioned it might fit you better if you were shorter or chubbier.
you have to check out the yildiz a71
Where does his accent come from? This English accent where Rs are pronounced as Ws is quite different.
Qual a opinião da Beretta 686 S Trap de 2/1 estrelas
Can you do a video of the Zoli kronos High rib?
Baretta is the hallmark of O/U shotguns . DO NOT ever forget the Browing Superposed, they ran right up there with Baretta. Go get your limits of pheasants and quail, Partridge too. Bam! Bam! Bam!
Would u guys think a Beretta SP1 sporting none adjustable cone be suitable for a 6ft guy?
I’m 6.1 it fits me like a glove unlike browning iv owned both
Every gun is a good gun if its reliable and it fit's
is it .410 or 12 guage
I have a chance to buy a Beretta 686 onyx pro 12 ga, with 6 chokes, original blue hard case, gun is in mint condition barely fired if at all. $1,800.00 US dollars. I’ll probably pass on it, I do t have that much to spend although it’s a beautiful gun, probably 25 to 30 years old, but again pretty much new unfired.
Has better eyes than me.i never see the clays
I think it’s a little bit low in the comb…
Get an adjustable comb and problem solved 👍
I thought 686s are ejectors?
They are. He’s catching them as they fly out.
@@mattbainbridge3857 Thanks for the update. He was catching them so fast that it looks like she was just yanking them up from the chamber.
The sporter doesn`t have an adjustable trigger, David you need to do you`re homework Its not a browning
So if you are short and fat it will fit you better, if you are also ugly and hairy it will fit perfectly!
The 686 is good- but for the money i don't see it as a good deal, they are very cold and stamped out guns, older 680 series was better by far
:-) I want to be an "every day person" !
Luciano viene
Go back to ye Browning XS pro! David ,Beretta are Ok I suppose .
You are so anti Beretta. The comb will be to low come to my shooting school and buy a Browning
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Film closer
I can’t help but laugh
When it comes to beretta
You try your best to be positive and neutral about the guns
But your whole body face and voice expressions
Says something completely different
Disliking a gun or loving a gun
It’s an emotion that can’t be helped
And it shows when shooting
It's a great gun. If you're really short and fat. And have fat cheeks.
If you’re fat.. it’s the gun for you… 🤡
Beretta - the ladies version of a browning shotgun .
@@chrismmint I guess you have one then, eh?