Supreme Lobster you'd actually be surprised. It's still pretty popular. Maybe you just need to get out more lmao *simulating a woosher who doesn't read comments all the way through*
Given the terrifying amount of energy he seems to have at the start of this video, I’m afraid of what he puts in his morning coffee..... I rather liked the wider mike placement.. sounded very gong-like rather than just a cymbal with the closer positions. Maybe worth considering implementing close & wise mike placement simultaneously: More potential options for playback. Just a thought.
The problem I have with that is that of course it only picks up sounds of things it touches, but in the marble machine X everything touches so I fear that too much noise is conveyed to the contact microphone...
@@KYLERHOLLAND I didn't mean the contact microphones of the cymbal in particular. Martin hast often times mentioned the contact microphones which are not only going to be used on the cymbal. That worries me
Keep in mind the MMX is a instrument primarily, and not a engineering project. A engineering project without a purpose is worthless. So what is the point of making the MMX if its primary purpose of being an instrument that sounds good isn't met? Even if it could be considered feature creep it would be one worth having so that its primary goal, per its original design, is met. It need a symbol that sounds good and if its position and type have to change to suit this, then so be it.
@@Jonaasti I'm not musically minded so it looked like feature creep to me, however I do get engineering. If it needs something overlooked to function, so be it.
A way to dampen the cymbal is a must. In college I did a project like this, with a computer controlled glockenspiel. It had no damping at all and as the notes would ring on endlessly, the music turned into a wash of obnoxious noise. A damper shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I imagine something like a hi hat mechanism that presses a piece of cork up. Or if you went for a wide bowl with wool felt around the edges, you could modulate it like a trumpet mute and get some interesting reverberations.
You _could_ say that. You could _also_ say, as a drummer, in my personal experience, some of my best-sounding moments and most fun exercises while drumming are from crash-muting my crash cymbals.
Hey Martin, love watching your videos! Smaller splash cymbals will need much more "attack" force right at the edge of the cymbal to get the bright sound you are after, something that would not be possible with a marble drop. If you wanted to keep a smaller cymbal in reach, I feel it would need to have a mechanical hitting mechanism (which you may love or hate). When playing as a drummer I put quite a lot of force in to a splash, and the rocking of the cymbal helps with the characteristic splash sound. Otherwise the big cymbal idea is great!
It also makes a big difference if you hit the cymbal with a stick on the side or just on top. And with the marble dropping on top of the cymbal you get less of a crash.
The MMX journey is just like a dream school. Fun, physical, easy to follow and actually teaches things to you instead of talking at you. Professional schools could learn a thing or two from this. Right?!
Definetly. I think this whole series wll have big impact in many fields when the MMX premiere goes viral. The fact that everything in the building process is documented and free to watch is pretty amazing when you think about it.
Yes, but the most important thing that distinguishes martins videos from the normal school is that they are viewed voluntarily and at self-chosen time and there is no exam.
My favorite Wintergatan joke returns this week in the form of the procrastination meter! Speaking of which, I implore you to play the original procrastination song on world tour!
Me and my son have loved watching this project come together. But a few weeks ago when you assembled the drums and now the actual instruments are starting to come together, making the whole thing even more exciting. Work of modern art!
During the tests the contact mic was attached with white tac. I imagine you will use something more permanent in final production. A hard glue is going to transmit more high frequencies. Have you considered this?
Thursday morning here. 530am. I know it is is going to be a good day when i wake up and see this 😊 it feels so close to being finished! Cant wait! Thank you Martin for allowing us to follow you on this journey xo you have created something that brings genuine joy to people and i love you for this. You have an amazing mind, heart, and soul.
Yaaaay! I really like the placement under the programming wheel! Nice use of space, very compact. :) Form follows function - motto of the *"NO FINGERS"* team.
TA DAAAAAA in this sizzle cymbal soundcheck we learn what signal to noise is and why splash cymbals are called splash cymbals (remind me to never put the alarm clock so early again) Here is the Ehrlund EAP Mic and preamp that i love so much: ehrlund.se/product/pickup/ ehrlund.se/product/preamp-phantom/
I am so emotionally invested into this project, and it’s only getting stronger as the end is in sight. I’m going to cry when MMX is done and its debut music video is released :’)
I’m not really a concert kind of person however attending yours is high priority on my living life for joys sake 💫bucket list📜 I will be forever grateful to my two sons for introducing me to your videos. Starting with your original machine. I am totally hooked❣️
Early alarm clocks are how we get more done! Staying up late is usually just me on the internet, but getting up early... wait... here I am on the internet... nvm
Not that I know anything of the subject, but I feel that attaching the contact microphones with blu-tack (?) might result in a dampening effect on certain frequencies. This could be why post-processing was needed to hide the lower frequencies (the "gong sound"), and to boost up the high frequencies of the cymbal sound. Experimenting with a more rigid way of attaching the contact microphones could result in optimal results here.
Technically sound is the coordinated movement of a large number of atoms, thus measuring pressure changes and acceleration are functionally equivalent.
@@timehunter9467 i think they don't.. pretty sure the acceleration only changes a capacity in the sensor which is then detected and converted to the desired output
@@johnuferbach9166 Isn't it just a piezo? Like, converting mechanical stress into voltage? That's not that different from any kind of mic. You can even you a coil of wire to convert magnetic fields to sound signal, with a lot of amplification of course.
I think that the clicky clacky noises will still be heard. The contact microphones make sure that the noise doesn't interfere with the instruments sound, but he said that the mechanical noise will be a part of the music like in the first machine
thanks i learned more about cymbals from this vid than i ever knew before. my idea is now that cymbal sound is a tradeoff between rich timbre and short decay
Wow what a difference with that contact mic.....even with all these technical mics, I do love the sounds of the marble machine, it even has its own beat.. 👍🏼❤️
Maybe, but it would be tricky if he would be playing with one leg and dampening with second (i presume leg playing is for when he drops marbles by hand) There would be a solution to make hand/leg dampening crank
You're definitely fighting an uphill battle with the overtones. Cymbals don't like to be hit on the bow, they like to be hit along the edge. The rivets will definitely mask some of the roar though. Love the vids!
The measurement conundrum... your contact mics affect the resonance of the cymbal... the best placement for the least damping effect is where you empirically found it... at the bell. Good job!
'a new little project called the marble machine X'
oh cool, you should feature it in some of your videos, looks pretty cool
Recently...
He'll probably abandon the project within a week and move on to bigger things.
@@AB-ii5uy who still whooshes people in 2019??
*Simulating a critic of whoooshers*
Supreme Lobster you'd actually be surprised. It's still pretty popular. Maybe you just need to get out more lmao
*simulating a woosher who doesn't read comments all the way through*
Seymour Disapproves stfu to all of you get a life virgin
*simulating that one person who is pissed off at everything that exists*
Does anyone else feel like we're watching history unfold in front of our eyes? Seeing him perform live is on my bucket list!
Same here
Someday we'll tell our grandchildren of when it was still being built Haha
Yours and mine both
If he comes to 'Murica I will go see him perform with the x live.
I hugged him once
This whole video is cymbalic of your whole approach to music
ba dum tss
@@daanwilmer, let's add some sizzle rivets to that. Ba dum tSSS.sss.sss.sss 😁
Ooooh, I see what you did there.... veeery clever
Ba dum SPLASH
Glen M : now that is puntastic!
The original Marble Machine video has reached 100 million views my dudes...
@@sedu7 idk, a little less than a year maybe
It's also wednesday
@@Taulussa i know, Wednesday best day
Damn you're fast.
my dude! wednesday it is!
" I put my alarm early and now have excess energy " that's not how us humans work Martin, what even are you?
"I drank four cups of coffee to settle me down though." -Martin, probably
Given the terrifying amount of energy he seems to have at the start of this video, I’m afraid of what he puts in his morning coffee.....
I rather liked the wider mike placement.. sounded very gong-like rather than just a cymbal with the closer positions. Maybe worth considering implementing close & wise mike placement simultaneously: More potential options for playback. Just a thought.
*sets alarm even earlier*
"Who knows what will happen now?!"
😂
We humans*
@@yaschaeffer Maybe use both to layer the stereo sound?
I wish my procrastination sounded half as good as yours.
my procrastination sounds like off-key 'Colonel Bogey'. His is far better sounding.
Mine is roughly
UUURRRRRNNNRNNNNNHHHRRHHHHHHGHJHHHRHHHH
Is that somewhat equivalent? I'm curious. Come, let's compare procrastination sounds.
My procrastination sounds exactly the same...because watching this IS my procrastination!
“Now I understand why they’re called splash cymbals, it’s because of the sound they make when I throw them into the Mediterranean.” ~ Martin, 2019.
"Tada!... Oh sorry... Tadaa!!" Hahaha i love this channel man
That contact microphone blew my mind. 🎤
The problem I have with that is that of course it only picks up sounds of things it touches, but in the marble machine X everything touches so I fear that too much noise is conveyed to the contact microphone...
@@dustvoice I guess that would be something to test out. However, I feel like most noise would be removed through the cimbal dampeners.
@@KYLERHOLLAND I didn't mean the contact microphones of the cymbal in particular. Martin hast often times mentioned the contact microphones which are not only going to be used on the cymbal. That worries me
Still there are dampers on the cymbal-holder to prevent that.@@dustvoice
Mine also! With a belt sander right beside it! Wonderful.
Fans: aren't you going to have a problem when ...?
Martin: Well yes, but actually no
"I could build a lever for dampening the cymbal" ... Something about feature creep.
Not really, being able to dampen the cymbal was always an intended feature.
Keep in mind the MMX is a instrument primarily, and not a engineering project. A engineering project without a purpose is worthless. So what is the point of making the MMX if its primary purpose of being an instrument that sounds good isn't met? Even if it could be considered feature creep it would be one worth having so that its primary goal, per its original design, is met. It need a symbol that sounds good and if its position and type have to change to suit this, then so be it.
@@Jonaasti I'm not musically minded so it looked like feature creep to me, however I do get engineering. If it needs something overlooked to function, so be it.
A way to dampen the cymbal is a must. In college I did a project like this, with a computer controlled glockenspiel. It had no damping at all and as the notes would ring on endlessly, the music turned into a wash of obnoxious noise. A damper shouldn't be too hard to figure out. I imagine something like a hi hat mechanism that presses a piece of cork up. Or if you went for a wide bowl with wool felt around the edges, you could modulate it like a trumpet mute and get some interesting reverberations.
You _could_ say that. You could _also_ say, as a drummer, in my personal experience, some of my best-sounding moments and most fun exercises while drumming are from crash-muting my crash cymbals.
Hey Martin, love watching your videos!
Smaller splash cymbals will need much more "attack" force right at the edge of the cymbal to get the bright sound you are after, something that would not be possible with a marble drop. If you wanted to keep a smaller cymbal in reach, I feel it would need to have a mechanical hitting mechanism (which you may love or hate). When playing as a drummer I put quite a lot of force in to a splash, and the rocking of the cymbal helps with the characteristic splash sound. Otherwise the big cymbal idea is great!
Agreed. The contact microphone also dampens the sound of the splash more. I think you made the best choice for the contact mike though.
It also makes a big difference if you hit the cymbal with a stick on the side or just on top. And with the marble dropping on top of the cymbal you get less of a crash.
I love how the subtitles pick up the mechanics of the conveyor as [ applause ]
I feel the same
way when I hear it
Mabye automatic subtitles aren't so bad as we thought
*Uses Musical Instrument*
“That’s pretty musical!”
My heart is beating so fast everytime wintergatan post a video about making the mmx
My heart is beating so fast everytime
I hope it would! If it doesn't, you need to go see a doctor to check if you even have a heart.
I admire people like yourself so much when I see you in your element creating music. The way you create is incredible.
Woooaaah! That's the mmx poster?!! I've been waiting for so long, I really hope it to be soon. 🤯😆
aaaand it has the old cymbal position ;)
@@andreewert6576 Omg, so amazing
The MMX journey is just like a dream school. Fun, physical, easy to follow and actually teaches things to you instead of talking at you. Professional schools could learn a thing or two from this. Right?!
Definetly. I think this whole series wll have big impact in many fields when the MMX premiere goes viral. The fact that everything in the building process is documented and free to watch is pretty amazing when you think about it.
Yes, but the most important thing that distinguishes martins videos from the normal school is that they are viewed voluntarily and at self-chosen time and there is no exam.
@@Simon-gq8wn I think so to but when it comes to money and power most higher-ups will ignore it but hears to hoping.
My favorite Wintergatan joke returns this week in the form of the procrastination meter! Speaking of which, I implore you to play the original procrastination song on world tour!
Me and my son have loved watching this project come together. But a few weeks ago when you assembled the drums and now the actual instruments are starting to come together, making the whole thing even more exciting. Work of modern art!
During the tests the contact mic was attached with white tac. I imagine you will use something more permanent in final production. A hard glue is going to transmit more high frequencies. Have you considered this?
My week has been long, lost and difficult. But with this video I immediately see that there is always light. Thank you, Martin.
I love watching these videos during my lunch!
The fish stair assembly with the rods and linkages is nothing short of beautiful!
Woohooo. Just realized what day it was 😁
It is Wednesday my dude!
@@wildtangent6890 AAAAAAAAAAAA
Wednesday, my dude?
Thursday morning here. 530am. I know it is is going to be a good day when i wake up and see this 😊 it feels so close to being finished! Cant wait! Thank you Martin for allowing us to follow you on this journey xo you have created something that brings genuine joy to people and i love you for this. You have an amazing mind, heart, and soul.
Been following you building MMX since day one, and it's getting closer to the finish line, can't wait to see her in action 😆😆😆
It's great to see you enjoying yourself and not stressing over the build. I hope you get to enjoy a lot more in the coming months
I wish every day was a Wednesday
same
You don't like Wednesnight?
@@KC9UDX if there's also a video... I take it!
Same!~
*Hump day intensives*
I like how the the projects progresses gradually into musical tests that are still really technical. love the project! love the music!
3:46 Yeah, it's subtle, but if you turn up the volume, you can hear a bit of background noise.
I love how wintergatan’s procrastination is making music.
I love it when he has fun.
I can wait to see him make music again randomly
Yaaaay! I really like the placement under the programming wheel! Nice use of space, very compact. :)
Form follows function - motto of the *"NO FINGERS"* team.
Martin this is one of the most incredible machines ever created. One mans dream, one teams goal, a world of accomplishment.
Happy Spring equinox Wednesdays wintergatan friends! Let's some spring light and energy flow to Martin and the mmx! Chao ☀️😊
Happy Autumnal equinox, my Antipodean friends! 🇦🇺
Ha ha ha ha ha... sunshine. Light. Here? Ha ha ha ha... it is Holland, my dudes.
@@michaelfink64 yes and happy autumn for some of you 😉🇦🇺🇸🇪
Martin, your enthusiasm is so contagious!
All work and no "play" makes the MMX creating musician "rusty". Nothing wrong with making music riffs along the journey.
Lol a flat earther outside his bubble? What does it take to convince you that the MMX is flat? 😂
Okay! This is my most favorite vid, so far. I love your traditional phase between scratch and perfection. This inspires me. Get'r don!
@wintergatan the marbles are just to light fo splash cymbals. as a drummer i usualy hit them as hard as possible to get a nice splash sound
I am a drummer, Love the change to a larger cymbal, it was the right move!
I am so looking forward to hearing this thing in action when it's completed, it's going to sound awesome.
TA DAAAAAA in this sizzle cymbal soundcheck we learn what signal to noise is and why splash cymbals are called splash cymbals (remind me to never put the alarm clock so early again)
Here is the Ehrlund EAP Mic and preamp that i love so much:
ehrlund.se/product/pickup/
ehrlund.se/product/preamp-phantom/
where is the video about the marble lift and fish stair?
It's in our hearts. It has always been in our hearts. :)
I hope that is a real "sneak peek" at 2:02!
I am pretty sure there was only one about designing those. No video about actually manofacturing/testing the final version of them.
It looks so genius
Only one week to go and we'll find out I think
Shaldur prime
Yeah, that teaser from a couple weeks ago is driving everyone nuts
One of your best creative dreamscapes...early mornings are so creative!
Martin, you’re the geekiest musical genius around, and I look forward to your weekly updates.
I am so emotionally invested into this project, and it’s only getting stronger as the end is in sight. I’m going to cry when MMX is done and its debut music video is released :’)
Can we just have a video of several minutes of 2:10 to 2:16 please? :D :D :D
It would make a good asmr video
hours*
I'm sure someone found a way to loop that clip smoothly
YESSSSSSS! Seeing it move is so exciting! I can't believe hes already been working on this for TWO YEARS!
I repeat myself: where is the sequel to the cliffhanger from #70? Still feels like torture, pleeaaasssseeeee.
I’m not really a concert kind of person however attending yours is high priority on my living life for joys sake 💫bucket list📜
I will be forever grateful to my two sons for introducing me to your videos. Starting with your original machine.
I am totally hooked❣️
This is the only TH-cam channel where I've turned on the bell notifications, and I'm subscribed to around 100 channels.
You could subscribe to my boring channel and be subscribed to like 101.
@@KC9UDX Done
@@TrotterG Thank you
As always!.
Marten amazes with his artistry of music with the scientific method.
BRAVO!
Woohoo! Instruments are going up! the build is coming together~
...half way there :D
I loved ❤️ the mechanical noise of the original marble machine!
More rivets is always the answer
Clear explanations for the cymbal minded. Thank you.
Wait, Martin, you can make cymbals appear by looking at their photos? That's so cool! :D
Just like that tiktok meme amirite?
Martin has absorbed the legendary powers of the Music Dragon. He has Musical Magic properties, now.
ride cymbals two crash cymbals two
hihat six toms two kick drums two snares rim sidestick vocal microphone conga bongo clapper chimes percussion whsitle
I have no knowledge about music and yet I sat through the whole video and enjoyed everything in the video, talk about the magic of music.
You don't have to be an artist to appreciate art.
"Arroser les plantes! :)" the best thing of the video
0:36 that cymbal sound it made when you dropped it had me rolling for some reason 🤣🤣🤣🤣
man, the stereoscopic audio of this video is fantastic!
I can hear you in 3d!
I can also watch in HQ audio
As always, your ingenuity shines through, as well as your persistence of excellence! Great job!
Early alarm clocks are how we get more done! Staying up late is usually just me on the internet, but getting up early... wait... here I am on the internet... nvm
Also, I think you've earned a new phone, Martin!
Thanks for the tremendous bass at the end Mr. Molin. The speakers in my truck needed it lol.
Not that I know anything of the subject, but I feel that attaching the contact microphones with blu-tack (?) might result in a dampening effect on certain frequencies. This could be why post-processing was needed to hide the lower frequencies (the "gong sound"), and to boost up the high frequencies of the cymbal sound. Experimenting with a more rigid way of attaching the contact microphones could result in optimal results here.
Love your sense of humor in all your vids. The engineering and design is so impressive. Cheers
Technically contact microphones are actually accelerometers. They do not respond to air pressure waves
Technically sound is the coordinated movement of a large number of atoms, thus measuring pressure changes and acceleration are functionally equivalent.
Technically umm, they convert kinetic energy to electronic energy? Just wanted to join in.,
That is why sound doesn't "sound" in vacuum
@@timehunter9467 i think they don't.. pretty sure the acceleration only changes a capacity in the sensor which is then detected and converted to the desired output
@@johnuferbach9166 Isn't it just a piezo? Like, converting mechanical stress into voltage? That's not that different from any kind of mic. You can even you a coil of wire to convert magnetic fields to sound signal, with a lot of amplification of course.
0:50 I officially dub you, the KING of vice puns
Yay new video!
0:28 haven't watched the entire video yet, but from this I already know that I am gonna love it
fun fact the contact microphone was used on he headsets of world war two tanks from germany. tanks are loud. very very loud.
Still used in the army to this day~
You are such a good teacher!! Very concise and good explanations!
Was on the phone and got notified of a new video.
NEVER OPENED TH-cam SO FAST IN MY LIFE.
@Zero Cool probably he doesn't have anything useful to do in his life
@@mr2octavio I am in a lecture... but who cares about Microcomputer engineering, right? ...right?
This episode has that classic energy and fun to it that made me subscribe to this channel in the first place. Well done!
2:20
But... But...
I like the clicky clacky noises
I think that the clicky clacky noises will still be heard. The contact microphones make sure that the noise doesn't interfere with the instruments sound, but he said that the mechanical noise will be a part of the music like in the first machine
This is some truly riveting content
Your symble track sound like an amazing Vsauce song!
Holy Moly, I did not expect that this S2N is even possible LIEK THAT! Really awesome...
Dangit. This isn't supposed to be out before I get home from work. ;)
Oh my, I'm so impressed by your passion and dedication in finishing the marble machine x. You are incredible! 🙌
notepad tutorials need the "Trance - 009 Sound System Dreamscape" music
マーティンさん見てると癒されるなぁ
楽しそうに作ってるところがめっちゃ好き！😆💕
Das a nice sizzle. 🙃
Marble Machine Metamorphosis.
Its cool to watch as the design changes slightly to fit the function.
Es ist Mittwoch, meine Jungen!
*Es ist Mittwoch, meine Kerle.
That fishstair looks amazing seeing it on the finished marble machine will be sick
Can you please say something about the mmx posters, like if you want Them.
Early to bed, early to rise, helps make Martin closer to finishing MMX in my eyes.
Wait when did he add the fish stair?
He did not make a video about it yet, but it was teased several times
oDrashiao
...all of the teasing...
thanks i learned more about cymbals from this vid than i ever knew before. my idea is now that cymbal sound is a tradeoff between rich timbre and short decay
Wich computer do you use? With that tape over the mac brand i cannot identify it
I think he's using a apple pc
@@matteor2784 oh, thanks man!
@@ramonzeira np
He's a musician so there's only one choice, right?
This discussion makes no sense 😂
Wow what a difference with that contact mic.....even with all these technical mics, I do love the sounds of the marble machine, it even has its own beat.. 👍🏼❤️
Fan vilket jobb du gör. Ser fram emot färdiga produkten.. Å jägare är du oxå.. :-p
Great job! I like how you educate us on all that you do, and test it very thoroughly. Excellent video.
I T I S W E D N E S D A Y M Y D U D E S
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
This episode was on point! Great humor, great pace! Loved it!
Use a separate pedal to dapen the symbol's sound similar to the way a high hat works. Would that work?
Maybe, but it would be tricky if he would be playing with one leg and dampening with second (i presume leg playing is for when he drops marbles by hand)
There would be a solution to make hand/leg dampening crank
@@tadejstefancic7828 true
You're definitely fighting an uphill battle with the overtones. Cymbals don't like to be hit on the bow, they like to be hit along the edge. The rivets will definitely mask some of the roar though. Love the vids!
i dropped my phone from the upper bunk bed after seeing he noti, rip phone, ima watch on laptop
The measurement conundrum... your contact mics affect the resonance of the cymbal... the best placement for the least damping effect is where you empirically found it... at the bell. Good job!
I could drop the marble manually for all the test, but I don't really think that would be... vise.
ba dum tss
I like the pop-art style view of the three different coloured schematics. If that was framed I'd buy that.