I used to work just up the road from the Magic Roundabout for the European Division of a US company. US visitors often picked up hire cars from the office, so we had drivers who were in a manual (stick shift) for the first time, driving on the left hand side, and in those days had no concept of even a simple roundabout, let alone a Magic one. Always looked forward to hearing what happened after they left the office!
Yeah, I can see that. American here, lived in the UK for a couple of years, so I got used to roundabouts. Still, I had to pause this video and stare at this monstrosity for several minutes before I figured out what was going on. Actually, not completely sure that I have figured it out, to be honest.
I can’t imagine Americans handling that. I live in the US and they can’t even properly design a regular one. There is one near me where on some of the inlets the cars in the roundabout have priority and on the others cars entering the roundabout have priority. It is the most messed up thing I have ever seen.
The Americans, of course, have no idea what you're even talking about. I mean, we've heard of the intersection, but until today I had no idea the TV show even existed, and have definitely never seen it. The intersection, of course, is the sort of thing that would terrify most of us. Roundabouts aren't common here, and while the regular ones don't bother me at all (I like not having to stop or wait for a light) the last time my girlfriend was in the car when I went around one she absolutely panicked. There was screaming while going through it, followed by at least ten minutes of complaining that it existed.
Very similar design in my hometown of Hemel Hempstead too. No issues with using it, even as a learner driver. Great traffic flow and I can't ever remember any accidents.
I remember the first time i came down from Glasgow in 1992 to work at the Mount prison in Bovingdon and i got to that roundabout thinking WTF is this !!! was a Sunday afternoon so thankfully not that busy.
The Hemel one makes a lot more sense 'cos the central island is raised and grassed over. The Swindon one just looks like the line-marking man was off his tits in a big car-park.
Had to leave M1 at Hemel due to smoke from Buncefield fire, came across the roundabout without a clue of how to deal with it. Signs and road markings all good and I was on my way home the pretty route.
I live a few streets away from it. It's great. People who remember the old roundabout tell me it had a bad accident record because people would try to take it too fast while they were on it, while people who'd got frustrated queuing to get onto it would try to dart out into non-existent gaps. What really helps the Magic Roundabout avoid accidents is that very few people are confident that they fully understand it and everyone knows the chances of meeting someone who's confused and terrified are quite high, so everyone slows down. Even the boy racers. The trick is simple - just treat it as a series of mini-roundabouts and ignore the fact there's a circle thing in the middle.
Scared I was a few months ago upon a visit but the general Aggy nature of road users was moot and I felt fine. Maybe the fact it's got celebrity status makes people forgiving rather than being iron fisted at the imaginator of such a crazy design and thus taking their frustration of such imbecile rules out on other motorists. 'humpf. I don't like it but it's unique. At least it's not everywhere ' Several quibbles. It's not lit. The lines are crap. If you haven't used it before, do it in daylight first a couple times. If you have no clue and it's dark then your screwed. Maybe.
I always drove through it swiftly on my daily commute. If others were being slow on one part of the magic roundabout I would just select a different route through it.
If that was the side intent then it seems to work perfectly. The horizontal signals help to disorient the driver (straight arrows pointing straight to the road divider in front of them???) so they end up basically navigating it as it was a giant 5 way junction but at parking lot speed😅
That bloody roundabout! When I was a small kid we passed through Swindon on our holiday one year. On the approach to it, my neighbour who was driving told me to look out for The Magic Roundabout. Me, not having a clue what he meant, thought it was going to be a fun-fair style ride in the middle of a huge grassy roundabout. Imagine my massive disappointment... On another trip, he told me to look out for a White Lion (A chalk one on a hillside somewhere). Me, not realising that, thought he'd said a 'White Line', so I spent a good hour with my eyes glued to the road surface, looking for a really long White Line in the middle of the road!! I really was so naive!
@@hairyairey I was just saying, I wasn't stupid enough to fall for the offer of 'Magic Beans' but still stupid enough to vote for Labour. Just an attempt at satire. Didn't work, obviously. Never mind.
Truly one of the most terrifying experiences I had on English roads during my 2010 UK visit was when I was driving through Swindon and mistakenly encountered this traffic oddity. When I arrived in the city, I was praying to myself, driving these unknown streets muttering, "Please don't take me to the Magic Roundabout...please don't take me to the Magic Roundabout...please don't take me to the Magic-- *CRAP."* I somehow made it half-way around until I saw the M5 sign and promptly exited that morass of circling cars, heading back to the motorway to try my Swindon entrance again. I am a North American driver who was having a hard enough time driving on the left side of the road, let alone trying to do that _and_ steering madly around a moving parking lot. I have never been back to Swindon.
I suspect the markings have worn away prematurely as very many drivers either ignore the lane marking or are unsure which lane to actually choose and flip flap between lanes. That said, it works remarkably well and I actually enjoy the fact that if one route across is busy, you have other options to avoid the traffic which us very satisfying 😆
Funnily enough it's a French production and , in French, is a bog standard kiddies show. The English version was a piss take because the chap couldn't be arsed to get it translated so made it up as he went along. Quite successfully too. Watching it stoned was fun, whilst tripping, not so much
The theme tune from "The Magic Roundabout" was my first encounter with an earworm - when I was a boy I was tormented by the idea that it MIGHT NEVER EVER STOP. Thanks, Jon. 😒
It is tricky - because trucker enter mini roundabout well before passenger car. Only problem is lenght of vehicle. Rules say: give priority to traffic approaching from your right. Passenger car was way far behind, still on previous island when HGV decided to go. Another rule explain this behavior: Rule 190: Multiple roundabouts. At some complex junctions, there may be a series of mini-roundabouts at each intersection. Treat each mini-roundabout separately and follow the normal rules. When truck is already on circle before car arrive - has to go. And car need to wait and let him finish. It is not pretty manuveur but this is how mini roundabout works. Always let someone to finish before enter. And only enter when is a "enough" gap. Otherwise we all stuck there.
It's accepted on the Magic Roundabout. Everyone gives the big vehicles time as they'd just be sat there all day. Even the German saloon drivers and traditional dickheads of the highway slow down.
And I’m pretty sure that WTTL are an HGV training company. So chances are the driver of that vehicle could quite possibly have never driven an artic till 8am that morning, then be faced with the Magic roundabout in a 40t artic…..
@@buddy19134The last time I encountered it was diverting round a closure of the M25. Another road closure on the same journey meant I ended up on the A404 where it crosses the A40 - at Wycombe's Magic Roundabout!
The British version of the Magic Roundabout was created by Eric Thompson, father of the actresses Sophie and (more famously) Emma Thompson. Apparently he watched the original French (Serge Danot) creation of the show with the sound turned down and wrote his own stories to fit what he saw as being correct for the images. Like you, I suspect some serious hallucinogens were involved and I want them :)
Yeah apparently the BBC rejected the cost of translating the show, and since no one spoke French he simply re-wrote a story as you say. Once I knew this it made sense why the whole thing was completely bonkers.
The one at Greenstead Roundabout in Colchester massively improved traffic flow in the 90s over the traffic light controlled roundabout. Based on the time my school bus got in anyway.
As a fresh faced airman in the RAF I was picked out by my Flight Sargent to be his driver, which meant driving the lead Land Rover of a convoy. We were to drive from RAF Brize Norton to Salisbury Plain, and if you know the area you'll know that the optimum route is through Swindon, and you've guessed it, right through the Magic Roundabout! I nearly shit a conker when I saw what we were approaching, I had visions of a convoy of Land Rovers lost going round and round the roundabout forever, but my Flt Sgt allayed my fears and told me we were taking the first exit off the roundabout.
As the person who always comments on the railway content in your videos. I feel a mini series called “200 reasons dr beeching is a cu*t” would be interesting. Genuine suggestion btw.
The one in Hemel Hempstead is amazing, I love it! Between 2002 and 2004 I used to work as a multi drop delivery driver and my route always took me through Hemel; the magic roundabout made my journey so much easier. 😀
I just replied to another comment on that roundabout remembering the first time i came down from Glasgow in 1992 to work at the Mount prison in Bovingdon and i got to that roundabout thinking WTF is this !!! was a Sunday afternoon so thankfully not that busy.
If you grew up in Swindon, the Magic Roundabout is almost certainly part of your driving test because hey, you're gonna need to know how to take it! It's funny, it looks super complicated if you've never dealt with it before but if you basically just point in the right direction and give way to the right it just sort of... works.
I bought my first road legal motorbike in Swindon in the late 80’s when I was based at Shrivenham. Going round that thing for the first time was interesting to say the least!
Grown up with Swindon being our usual shopping destination and then learning to drive in Swindon. It’s brilliant and just works so well. It always amazes me when people are confused and frightened by it!
My father always claimed to be the first person to call this the Magic Roundabout. His story is that while it was being built he asked one of the workmen "what's this - the Magic Roundabout?" And our family has called it that ever since. I'll bet there are many others who will make a similar claim.
For a while it was also known as the Silly[sic]Isles but the Magic Roundabout stuck with the locals and when the council started to put nameplates on roundabout signs, lo and behold, it became official.
Did my driving test across it and drove for about 15yrs over it daily, I did have 1 near miss on it, I was driving a Dynorod Red (Day glow red) with all the flashing lights on brake down truck with a van on the spec lift on the back and someone in the left hand lane tried to turn right into the gap of the spec lift, luckily we both managed to stop in time and he reversed out of the gap!
That gave me a flashback to Chevy Chase in European vacation (look kids there's Parliament). Over here in America we only have small roundabouts, so I like to take a few laps just to see the looks on peoples faces. Priceless! Thanks for another wicked sweet awesome video.
The Sadlers Farm roundabout in Pitsea, Essex was similar, but a bit bigger, with proper sized roundabout in the middle and the mini roundabouts were not just painted on. So many people couldn't cope with it they eventually (about 2012) made it just one big roundabout with a few extra lanes dotted here and there.
We used to have a 4 roundabout version just down the road called Bruce Street roundabouts. That's been replaced by a big roundabout with some lights. I prefer the new layout but lots of people don't. There's also 2, 2 roundabout junctions, 1 of with has been replaced by a set of lights. Not so sure on that one. The one that's replaced by lights is the moon raker junction. The one that's still there is between Pinehurst road, Whitworth road and crossways road. I used to call it the mickey mouse junction due to a fancy hedge that isn't there any more.
Many years ago I used to commute through High Wycombe every day, and used the A40/A404 multiple roundabouts. It was fun trying to work out whether to go clockwise or anti-clockwise to get through quickest.
As an 80s child I grew up on The Magic Roundabout and very nearly joined the campaign to keep the name when they tried to turn it back to the Counties thing in the early 00s. Thankfully the British sense of humour prevailed and it kept its affectionate name. I believe there are two more magic roundabouts in England so the concept is definitely proven to work when needed.
I haven't been to Swindon, but I have driven the magic roundabout in High Wycombe several times. Although, it is formed of 5 small roundabouts instead of mini roundabouts, is signed as a group of 3 roundabouts and a group of 2 roundabouts, only has 2 lanes on/off/around each, and the central island is huge and not round.
Love it! It was including in my driving test in 1977 and I quickly learned that there are good options for overtaking, avoiding snarl-ups etc through the roundabout. Basically a big open space with a few ignorable lines painted.
I live close by and can vouch for the fact that the Magic Roundabout works very well. Improve on it? Well, the best way would be to reduce the traffic volumes - which will inevitably happen when the oil runs out or becomes too expensive, and it is finally realised that electric propulsion is not for the masses. It will work equally well when we all go back to horse and cart of course. Oh, and thank you for the theme tune. Wicked sweet awesome. If you had let me know I'd have invited you in for a cup of tea. Creepy? Only slightly.
"which will inevitably happen when the oil runs out or becomes too expensive," You mean the oil reserves that ran out in 1914? A bit late for that, wouldn't you say.
I live in Basingstoke (There, I've admitted it in public!), and during the 70s and 80s this was known as 'Doughnut City'. Consequently when I first started to drive to and through Swindon in 1980, The Magic Roundabout came as a magical and most pleasant surprise. I discovered the one in Hemel Hempstead shortly after and managed to cause one heck of a traffic jam there when the engine of my company van gave up halfway around it in the centre section. At 16.50, on a Thursday, right outside what was then Kodak UK's Headquarters! As I said to the Nice Traffic Policemen who attended the resulting snarl-up, "It's a Ford with only 27000 miles on it, what did you expect?"
I had the misfortune one late night of coming on this roundabout on the way back from London. I sh*t myself when I realised what it was and basically just drove off to the nearest exit, probably against the traffic, but it was daunting to say the least if you are not familiar with the rules of the layout.
My dad was a paramedic and remembered when the magic roundabout, in Hemel’s, little round abouts, got made raised up, like bumps. Because he went over on the blues and hit the ceiling of his ambulance, wasn’t expecting them to be bumps as he was so used to them not being! .. I avoided the roundabout for years after I passed my test, only started using it when I lived close to it.. and it’s actually easy :)
I came upon this unexpectedly while undertaking a self guided tour of Swindon (Actually my first go at trying to drive from the Research Councils to the M4 in the pre-satnav days) and I was already totally befuddled so this intersection totally confused me but it did show the way to the M4 so I was astounded, amused and relieved once I was safely onto the A4312. I took a phot of it for the folks back home as no-one believed me it existed.
I’m American but my grandparents are British and live near this round about. I went to stay with them for a couple months last year. Everyday, I was like Jesus take the wheel 😆 Found it easier to navigate in rush hour because things were so slow moving.
@@RosaliePacheco I'm from down under so I at least had experience driving in the right seat - sitting on the "wrong" side of the car trying to navigate this would have been very "exciting"
It does actually avoid the congestion you would get on a one single roundabout connecting 5 roads. It's slow but generally you'll only spend seconds there and you're out! It works. Like magic!
I've encountered this junction once fairly early on in my articulated lorry driving career, it was a bit daunting and I was glad the road wasn't too busy at the time and I was able to straddle two lanes for most of it
This roundabout was on my commute to work once upon a time. I am a big fan of it. It may not be very responsible of me but I took the view that the traffic flow on it was so smooth and combined with it’s flexibility and options I hardly needed to slow down on approach as there were always options if one section was slower I could just switch options and take a different route through it.
As someone who worked for Swindon Council. for 20 years, this roundabout is definitely magic! Nice to see the digital sign I gave Advertisement Consent is up and going and not causing any distractions to motorists 😏
It is Magic our Morris! I am glad you've saved many a content creator from having to produce this video, where creative minds would have run wild not on magic mushrooms. Rather of how many funny, magical references to add to the video that would not make Zebedee's head spin! You have got the comical references just about right, and it is well researched too. On that note, boing! Time for bed"! said Zebedee.
In 1995 as Australians translocated to the area, it was a bit of a shock to come across it at night, in the rain, when the outer circles were merely slightly raised bitumen painted white!
Hi I was a new bus driver in 1974passing my test early October, and at that time NOVEMBER 74 this was still only large tyres marking out the different shapes of the small blocks between the main mini roundabouts. Many a time on very early trips you could go through from Fleming Way to Queens Drive only slowing down a little but had to be careful as if you clipped the tyres they would end up close to the FIRE STATION on Drove Road. And the NAME, that came after a reporter overhead us drivers calling it THE MAGIC ROUNDABOUT, and it was some years after before the then THAMESDOWN COUNCIL renamed it
There was one in Benfleet and it's now gone. It was hilarious watching learner drivers pile down the A13/A130. It got utterly confusing when the new flyover was built as many people for a few days simply forgot which way to go around the island resulting a few dings. They do work as with the old island to get from Benfleet to the A130 was a quick turn right and right again. Now it's a mega trundle all the way around the island. The only feature of the new island is that it's near Benfleet Wimpy Bar... the joy! Failing that there are the delights of the Hemel Hempstead "Magic Roundabout".... that despite the look of complexity, it works. Even my daughter can negotiate it without having a crash.
If I ever make it to Swindon (just a pipedream right now!) then I'd like to drive round the middle bit in an anticlockwise direction, which definitely appears to be possible.
I used to live (was stationed) "just up the road" and remember vividly my first ever encounter with said roundabout. I'd only just passed my test and had never seen anything like it before. my mate in the passenger seat said, "pick and exit point and just go for it". Seemed to work just fine.
Nice footage from above at the end. It looks like some of those drivers are very timid, but not really any more complicated than any other sequence of mini roundabouts (and more sensible than "double roundabouts")
I struggle not to break out in a sweat just looking at the thing. I've travelled abroad far and wide in my time and never come across such a complicated junction.
It's nice to know my local council arent the only ones coming up with bonkers ideas of junctions. Have a look at the 2 mini roundabouts in the centre of Poynton, Cheshire where no-one has priority!
We also have one in Colchester , we call it the Greenstead Roundabout and when you take your driving test and set off from the nearby Whitehall Test Centre you have a 50% chance of going on it. Luckily for me I went the other way that day.
The wear pattern on the tarmac is like a long-term experiment into drivers ignoring badly designed lane markings. The Road Research Laboratory would be pleased!
Good thing about the the Hemel one is that the big central roundabout is full of bushes surrounding the river that goes through it so you can only really see 1 mini roundabout in each direction which is less confusing for people new to it. The only real problem however also is due to the river because the local ducks tend to pop out with their offspring and mooch across the middle of the mini roundabouts without a care in the world so the traffic then grinds to a halt !
Lots of lore related to this roundabout, including one person I used to know who claims to have ragged the bollocks off his Mini Cooper S around the Magic Roundabout the moment the tape was cut and it was officially opened. Legend.
There is one in Colchester which I always find flows well compared to others around it. Also worth noting that in urban planning design, making the road uncomfortable to drive, like in the case of an unusual design like this, does deliberately slow traffic, which a) makes it safer because of lower combined energy in the event of a collision, and b) The slower speed actually allows for greater throughput of vehicles because slower vehicles drive closer together and as such you can get more in the same space than you would at a higher speed.
The concept of the roundabout is a very good one. It sets a certain standard and that is important so that road users know what to expect. They have a certain capacity and planners should learn to just deal with that. These multi-roundabout designs and the stupid spiral things are an abomination. Commuters get used to them after a couple of weeks and that makes everyone think they work but people new to the area or heading off on a different journey often struggle with them, annoying the pre-programmed commuters, ending up on the wrong road, or occasionally having an accident. What often happens is that when design capacity is being exceeded, planners make things even worse by adding traffic lights when what is required is a clean sheet of paper and a new approach. I know of roundabouts with lights that start to work better every time the lights have a fault!
Just outside Hatton Cross tube station on the south side of Heathrow, we have one of these roundabouts. Personally, I'm a fan. Especially when there is traffic clogging up on one side, leaving you the choice to go the other way.
Ah the theme tune. 👏👏 Thanks Jon for a cracking little video. Having suffered the Magic Roundabout in Hemel Hempstead I’m inclined to give Swindon’s a wide birth. But then again, perhaps it’s a duty of all drivers to attempt it. 👍😀
Hello John, Love what you've don with the Blog, 👍The first time I met a Magic roundabout, while awake, was in Colchester, on my way with 650 other squaddies, in Trucks, heading to Harwich, for our ferry to Hamburg for a two week exercise, with BOAR, But being that I was Driving the REME recovery vehicle, I had it easy, I just followed the Green Truck in front, I was tailend charlie, anyhow it would be interesting to Know how any of these their are, I'm a retired trucky, and I don't know of many, But with 7:5 Tn limits everywhere, that's not surprising, Any hoo John mate got to dash, great work again tho,
I've known about the Magic Roundabout for many years but it's only in the last year I've been to Swindon and driven through/around it. I've gone through the system twice over the course of a few months and it's absolutely fine. It works very well and doesn't cause any confusion for a driver who hasn't used it before. It's very intuitive and easy to navigate. It should be rolled out to other large, busy roundabouts/junctions.
I remember all to well being faced with this when I was 17 lol Don’t forget Hemel’s one , later when I become a driving instructor for London Buses I used to bring my trainees down there and get them going round from every direction
I did my motorbike test in Swindon and it took me onto the magic roundabout. I hadn't heard of this before so it came as a bit of a shock, mainly the middle roundabout that goes anti-clockwise. I still passed though, so that was nice.
I used to work just up the road from the Magic Roundabout for the European Division of a US company. US visitors often picked up hire cars from the office, so we had drivers who were in a manual (stick shift) for the first time, driving on the left hand side, and in those days had no concept of even a simple roundabout, let alone a Magic one. Always looked forward to hearing what happened after they left the office!
This is excellent. I'd have love to have seen the panic.
Was this AMC? They had some form of depot in Malvern Road and remember watching a Pacer pulling out of Malvern Road into Cricklade Road.
Plenty of entertainment I'd guess.
Yeah, I can see that. American here, lived in the UK for a couple of years, so I got used to roundabouts. Still, I had to pause this video and stare at this monstrosity for several minutes before I figured out what was going on. Actually, not completely sure that I have figured it out, to be honest.
I can’t imagine Americans handling that. I live in the US and they can’t even properly design a regular one. There is one near me where on some of the inlets the cars in the roundabout have priority and on the others cars entering the roundabout have priority. It is the most messed up thing I have ever seen.
"My TH-cam demographic data tells me I don't need to tell you lot what the Magic Roundabout is."
I have never felt more seen - thank you.
Same! 😂
He's not trying to say we're slightly old or something is he?
I'm not old!
Cough cough grange hill.
Well I don't remember the magic roundabout, but apparently I fit in this demographic?!
The Americans, of course, have no idea what you're even talking about. I mean, we've heard of the intersection, but until today I had no idea the TV show even existed, and have definitely never seen it.
The intersection, of course, is the sort of thing that would terrify most of us. Roundabouts aren't common here, and while the regular ones don't bother me at all (I like not having to stop or wait for a light) the last time my girlfriend was in the car when I went around one she absolutely panicked. There was screaming while going through it, followed by at least ten minutes of complaining that it existed.
Very similar design in my hometown of Hemel Hempstead too. No issues with using it, even as a learner driver. Great traffic flow and I can't ever remember any accidents.
I remember the first time i came down from Glasgow in 1992 to work at the Mount prison in Bovingdon and i got to that roundabout thinking WTF is this !!! was a Sunday afternoon so thankfully not that busy.
Yeh I did my test on Swindon's. Its really not hard. It looked fucking insane but it's not.
Also similar to one near me in Colchester, Essex.
The Hemel one makes a lot more sense 'cos the central island is raised and grassed over. The Swindon one just looks like the line-marking man was off his tits in a big car-park.
Had to leave M1 at Hemel due to smoke from Buncefield fire, came across the roundabout without a clue of how to deal with it. Signs and road markings all good and I was on my way home the pretty route.
I live a few streets away from it. It's great. People who remember the old roundabout tell me it had a bad accident record because people would try to take it too fast while they were on it, while people who'd got frustrated queuing to get onto it would try to dart out into non-existent gaps. What really helps the Magic Roundabout avoid accidents is that very few people are confident that they fully understand it and everyone knows the chances of meeting someone who's confused and terrified are quite high, so everyone slows down. Even the boy racers.
The trick is simple - just treat it as a series of mini-roundabouts and ignore the fact there's a circle thing in the middle.
Scared I was a few months ago upon a visit but the general Aggy nature of road users was moot and I felt fine.
Maybe the fact it's got celebrity status makes people forgiving rather than being iron fisted at the imaginator of such a crazy design and thus taking their frustration of such imbecile rules out on other motorists.
'humpf. I don't like it but it's unique. At least it's not everywhere '
Several quibbles.
It's not lit.
The lines are crap.
If you haven't used it before, do it in daylight first a couple times.
If you have no clue and it's dark then your screwed. Maybe.
I was one of those confused, terrified and frustrated. Well, I am an American driving there.
Hilarious. Let's build bigger and bigger roundabouts. Should solve everything.
I always drove through it swiftly on my daily commute. If others were being slow on one part of the magic roundabout I would just select a different route through it.
If that was the side intent then it seems to work perfectly. The horizontal signals help to disorient the driver (straight arrows pointing straight to the road divider in front of them???) so they end up basically navigating it as it was a giant 5 way junction but at parking lot speed😅
That bloody roundabout!
When I was a small kid we passed through Swindon on our holiday one year. On the approach to it, my neighbour who was driving told me to look out for The Magic Roundabout. Me, not having a clue what he meant, thought it was going to be a fun-fair style ride in the middle of a huge grassy roundabout.
Imagine my massive disappointment...
On another trip, he told me to look out for a White Lion (A chalk one on a hillside somewhere). Me, not realising that, thought he'd said a 'White Line', so I spent a good hour with my eyes glued to the road surface, looking for a really long White Line in the middle of the road!!
I really was so naive!
It's a white horse anyway so you'd never of spotted it
@@domt6802 Oh, this wasn't Uffington or Westbury, it was on a different trip and I think we were probably going past Whipsnade at the time, lol.
@@NormanCollier-nf7nu Thanks, but I'm afraid I'll have to pass on those. Now, where do I go to Vote for Labour...
@@AFCManUk I am really confused how voting for Labour comes into this thread!
@@hairyairey I was just saying, I wasn't stupid enough to fall for the offer of 'Magic Beans' but still stupid enough to vote for Labour.
Just an attempt at satire. Didn't work, obviously. Never mind.
Truly one of the most terrifying experiences I had on English roads during my 2010 UK visit was when I was driving through Swindon and mistakenly encountered this traffic oddity.
When I arrived in the city, I was praying to myself, driving these unknown streets muttering, "Please don't take me to the Magic Roundabout...please don't take me to the Magic Roundabout...please don't take me to the Magic-- *CRAP."*
I somehow made it half-way around until I saw the M5 sign and promptly exited that morass of circling cars, heading back to the motorway to try my Swindon entrance again.
I am a North American driver who was having a hard enough time driving on the left side of the road, let alone trying to do that _and_ steering madly around a moving parking lot.
I have never been back to Swindon.
Another crap US driver then.
"There's always one dickhead who spoils it for the rest of us" - so true, so funny. I love your humour Jon, it never fails to crack me up!
I see the council needs to invest in some white dulux, the road markings show some signs of wear...
And perhaps some greenery: it's looking very concrete compared to the old pictures.
@@KevinKitten Shrubs would reduce visibility.
@@smike9884Be a shame if someone spoiled the"pedestrian hostile, car dependent dystopia" aesthetic slightly with some plants, be shame, yuck. Nature!
I suspect the markings have worn away prematurely as very many drivers either ignore the lane marking or are unsure which lane to actually choose and flip flap between lanes. That said, it works remarkably well and I actually enjoy the fact that if one route across is busy, you have other options to avoid the traffic which us very satisfying 😆
Love this junction.
People are so scared but locals gave me great advice, JUST LOOK RIGHT.
I like taking passengers "backwards" round it
"some very good drugs involved in it's creation." frankly sounds like it could be applied to the junction as well
Funnily enough it's a French production and , in French, is a bog standard kiddies show. The English version was a piss take because the chap couldn't be arsed to get it translated so made it up as he went along. Quite successfully too. Watching it stoned was fun, whilst tripping, not so much
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handle Jasper Carrot did an excellent spoof - adults only.
I'd say the people behind Teletubbies, Boohbah and In The Night Garden are the REAL drug users in the world of children's television.
@@RogersRamblings off to bed said Zebedee.
@@I_Don_t_want_a_handleBoooiiinnnggg.
The theme tune from "The Magic Roundabout" was my first encounter with an earworm - when I was a boy I was tormented by the idea that it MIGHT NEVER EVER STOP. Thanks, Jon. 😒
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That truck at 2:54 pulling up in front of the blue car is the content I keep coming back for! Thanks Jon 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It is tricky - because trucker enter mini roundabout well before passenger car. Only problem is lenght of vehicle. Rules say: give priority to traffic approaching from your right.
Passenger car was way far behind, still on previous island when HGV decided to go.
Another rule explain this behavior: Rule 190: Multiple roundabouts. At some complex junctions, there may be a series of mini-roundabouts at each intersection. Treat each mini-roundabout separately and follow the normal rules.
When truck is already on circle before car arrive - has to go. And car need to wait and let him finish. It is not pretty manuveur but this is how mini roundabout works. Always let someone to finish before enter. And only enter when is a "enough" gap. Otherwise we all stuck there.
It's accepted on the Magic Roundabout. Everyone gives the big vehicles time as they'd just be sat there all day. Even the German saloon drivers and traditional dickheads of the highway slow down.
The truck only has to give way to traffic "circulating on the carriageway of the roundabout" so they've done nothing wrong.
@@pennywood5653 That's a first 🤣
And I’m pretty sure that WTTL are an HGV training company. So chances are the driver of that vehicle could quite possibly have never driven an artic till 8am that morning, then be faced with the Magic roundabout in a 40t artic…..
See you in High Wycombe or Hemel Hempstead for the next exciting episode of "All the Magic Roundabouts" 😀
that bloody Plough roundabout in Hemel. would work so much better if people READ THE DAMN ROAD MARKINGS
@@buddy19134The last time I encountered it was diverting round a closure of the M25. Another road closure on the same journey meant I ended up on the A404 where it crosses the A40 - at Wycombe's Magic Roundabout!
Time to get to High Wycombe now. There’s is slightly bigger but seems to function in a similar manner. Be good to see an episode on that.
How about also including the Tesco Value version in Aylesbury?
The A40 junction 1 m40 at Denham is also a version of this.
The British version of the Magic Roundabout was created by Eric Thompson, father of the actresses Sophie and (more famously) Emma Thompson. Apparently he watched the original French (Serge Danot) creation of the show with the sound turned down and wrote his own stories to fit what he saw as being correct for the images. Like you, I suspect some serious hallucinogens were involved and I want them :)
Yeah apparently the BBC rejected the cost of translating the show, and since no one spoke French he simply re-wrote a story as you say. Once I knew this it made sense why the whole thing was completely bonkers.
The 2005 film: th-cam.com/video/2A10CB2vhUg/w-d-xo.htmlsi=MzO5JZzmgbiBf_72
Typical BBC. They get a hit show despite messing everything about it up. The devil looks after his own.
Watch it drunk. Trust me!
It’s typically French.
Thanks for filming this, from my hometown. It is one of the few tourist attractions!
The one at Greenstead Roundabout in Colchester massively improved traffic flow in the 90s over the traffic light controlled roundabout. Based on the time my school bus got in anyway.
Doesn't work now!
@@david_harvey cheers for the update. Not been that way for a good few years. Sorry to hear the traffic is more borked now.
There is a distinct lack of Jasper Carrott in this video.
Otherwise, brilliant as always.
Understandable really, - "Boing', said TH-cam!" - but you are right : )
I wonder if florence is a virgin ???
I half expected Jon to do a lap of honour
around the magic roundabout on a funky moped.
B side to funky moped, time for bed said zebedee Florence and dougal
Lousy old fleabag...
As a fresh faced airman in the RAF I was picked out by my Flight Sargent to be his driver, which meant driving the lead Land Rover of a convoy.
We were to drive from RAF Brize Norton to Salisbury Plain, and if you know the area you'll know that the optimum route is through Swindon, and you've guessed it, right through the Magic Roundabout!
I nearly shit a conker when I saw what we were approaching, I had visions of a convoy of Land Rovers lost going round and round the roundabout forever, but my Flt Sgt allayed my fears and told me we were taking the first exit off the roundabout.
As the person who always comments on the railway content in your videos. I feel a mini series called “200 reasons dr beeching is a cu*t” would be interesting. Genuine suggestion btw.
The Magic Roundabout music at the end is like travelling back in time.
Watching traffic on that roundabout is quite hypnotic! Very clever design.
I went round that in 74, ever since I have never been back to Swindon.
As someone who goes weekly, you've made a great decision.
That's the magic of the roundabout!
A result! That will keep the traffic levels down.
Don't worry, you're not missing anything.
Sounds like your one of these many bad drivers then, many who like to be in front no matter what the road markings say!
The one in Hemel Hempstead is amazing, I love it! Between 2002 and 2004 I used to work as a multi drop delivery driver and my route always took me through Hemel; the magic roundabout made my journey so much easier. 😀
I just replied to another comment on that roundabout remembering the first time i came down from Glasgow in 1992 to work at the Mount prison in Bovingdon and i got to that roundabout thinking WTF is this !!! was a Sunday afternoon so thankfully not that busy.
If you grew up in Swindon, the Magic Roundabout is almost certainly part of your driving test because hey, you're gonna need to know how to take it!
It's funny, it looks super complicated if you've never dealt with it before but if you basically just point in the right direction and give way to the right it just sort of... works.
I bought my first road legal motorbike in Swindon in the late 80’s when I was based at Shrivenham. Going round that thing for the first time was interesting to say the least!
the Test Centre's out of town now, in Peatmoor
its not used on tests anymore
Grown up with Swindon being our usual shopping destination and then learning to drive in Swindon. It’s brilliant and just works so well. It always amazes me when people are confused and frightened by it!
My father always claimed to be the first person to call this the Magic Roundabout. His story is that while it was being built he asked one of the workmen "what's this - the Magic Roundabout?" And our family has called it that ever since. I'll bet there are many others who will make a similar claim.
For a while it was also known as the Silly[sic]Isles but the Magic Roundabout stuck with the locals and when the council started to put nameplates on roundabout signs, lo and behold, it became official.
Did my driving test across it and drove for about 15yrs over it daily, I did have 1 near miss on it, I was driving a Dynorod Red (Day glow red) with all the flashing lights on brake down truck with a van on the spec lift on the back and someone in the left hand lane tried to turn right into the gap of the spec lift, luckily we both managed to stop in time and he reversed out of the gap!
I love how the paths of clear road made in the road grime and grit shows the most used routes through the roundabout. Kinda interesting to see.
That gave me a flashback to Chevy Chase in European vacation (look kids there's Parliament). Over here in America we only have small roundabouts, so I like to take a few laps just to see the looks on peoples faces. Priceless! Thanks for another wicked sweet awesome video.
I love the drone shots where you can see the most common paths folks take from the colour of the tarmac.
You had me at Bob Fleming. 😂
The Sadlers Farm roundabout in Pitsea, Essex was similar, but a bit bigger, with proper sized roundabout in the middle and the mini roundabouts were not just painted on. So many people couldn't cope with it they eventually (about 2012) made it just one big roundabout with a few extra lanes dotted here and there.
It's still a mess as the traffic lights are normally out of sequence, and Canvey Way tailbacks block it in the evening
We used to have a 4 roundabout version just down the road called Bruce Street roundabouts. That's been replaced by a big roundabout with some lights. I prefer the new layout but lots of people don't.
There's also 2, 2 roundabout junctions, 1 of with has been replaced by a set of lights. Not so sure on that one. The one that's replaced by lights is the moon raker junction. The one that's still there is between Pinehurst road, Whitworth road and crossways road. I used to call it the mickey mouse junction due to a fancy hedge that isn't there any more.
Many years ago I used to commute through High Wycombe every day, and used the A40/A404 multiple roundabouts. It was fun trying to work out whether to go clockwise or anti-clockwise to get through quickest.
As an 80s child I grew up on The Magic Roundabout and very nearly joined the campaign to keep the name when they tried to turn it back to the Counties thing in the early 00s. Thankfully the British sense of humour prevailed and it kept its affectionate name.
I believe there are two more magic roundabouts in England so the concept is definitely proven to work when needed.
I haven't been to Swindon, but I have driven the magic roundabout in High Wycombe several times. Although, it is formed of 5 small roundabouts instead of mini roundabouts, is signed as a group of 3 roundabouts and a group of 2 roundabouts, only has 2 lanes on/off/around each, and the central island is huge and not round.
The Bob Fleming reference wasn’t lost Jon!
Loving the Lo-Fi Magic Roundabout music - takes me back t the '70's.
We always used to refer to the one in Hemel Hempstead as The Magic Roundabout which has six mini roundabouts. Fascinating history. Thank you.
Love it! It was including in my driving test in 1977 and I quickly learned that there are good options for overtaking, avoiding snarl-ups etc through the roundabout. Basically a big open space with a few ignorable lines painted.
Ignorable signs? Failed!
No, ignorable lines, but probably still a fail.@@melissanewton7462
I live close by and can vouch for the fact that the Magic Roundabout works very well. Improve on it? Well, the best way would be to reduce the traffic volumes - which will inevitably happen when the oil runs out or becomes too expensive, and it is finally realised that electric propulsion is not for the masses. It will work equally well when we all go back to horse and cart of course. Oh, and thank you for the theme tune. Wicked sweet awesome. If you had let me know I'd have invited you in for a cup of tea. Creepy? Only slightly.
"which will inevitably happen when the oil runs out or becomes too expensive,"
You mean the oil reserves that ran out in 1914? A bit late for that, wouldn't you say.
Children’s TV programme! No one told me it was for children! 😂😂😂 I loved it.
I have the High Wycombe and Hemel Hempstead versions of this in my local area. I had to navigate the HW example twice on my driving test!
I live in Basingstoke (There, I've admitted it in public!), and during the 70s and 80s this was known as 'Doughnut City'. Consequently when I first started to drive to and through Swindon in 1980, The Magic Roundabout came as a magical and most pleasant surprise. I discovered the one in Hemel Hempstead shortly after and managed to cause one heck of a traffic jam there when the engine of my company van gave up halfway around it in the centre section. At 16.50, on a Thursday, right outside what was then Kodak UK's Headquarters! As I said to the Nice Traffic Policemen who attended the resulting snarl-up, "It's a Ford with only 27000 miles on it, what did you expect?"
BOB FLEMING (Way)
Swindon, the town of my birth
You summed this video up nicely, in a roundabout way
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@@iancooper3560all around my ARSE!
Actually named after Swindon Town footballer Harold Fleming
@@iancooper3560if you press translate to English it changes it to REPEAT! Which i find very amusing 😁
Thank you for including the clips and using the theme tune from my favourite TV show in such an appropriate way.
I had the misfortune one late night of coming on this roundabout on the way back from London. I sh*t myself when I realised what it was and basically just drove off to the nearest exit, probably against the traffic, but it was daunting to say the least if you are not familiar with the rules of the layout.
My reaction too.
Finally....someone who actually explains how to use the thing. I'll try and remember should I ever leave the shelter of my rock and venture forth...
My dad was a paramedic and remembered when the magic roundabout, in Hemel’s, little round abouts, got made raised up, like bumps. Because he went over on the blues and hit the ceiling of his ambulance, wasn’t expecting them to be bumps as he was so used to them not being! .. I avoided the roundabout for years after I passed my test, only started using it when I lived close to it.. and it’s actually easy :)
Your videos are the best for me man. You're one of very few people on here that can hold my attention long enough!
It's probably the ADHD in me lol
I came upon this unexpectedly while undertaking a self guided tour of Swindon (Actually my first go at trying to drive from the Research Councils to the M4 in the pre-satnav days) and I was already totally befuddled so this intersection totally confused me but it did show the way to the M4 so I was astounded, amused and relieved once I was safely onto the A4312. I took a phot of it for the folks back home as no-one believed me it existed.
I’m American but my grandparents are British and live near this round about. I went to stay with them for a couple months last year. Everyday, I was like Jesus take the wheel 😆 Found it easier to navigate in rush hour because things were so slow moving.
@@RosaliePacheco I'm from down under so I at least had experience driving in the right seat - sitting on the "wrong" side of the car trying to navigate this would have been very "exciting"
I was on the edge of my chair WAITING for the the Magic Roundabout music to start up. "YOU DID NOT DISAPPOINT"😂 Just loved the vid Steve Bristol....
We didn't actually get to see "The Magic Roundabout" on Australian TV so thanks for explaining :)
Ah, that tune takes me back.
Skipped straight to the end for the music 🎶 😀
Then watched the video...
It does actually avoid the congestion you would get on a one single roundabout connecting 5 roads.
It's slow but generally you'll only spend seconds there and you're out! It works. Like magic!
I've encountered this junction once fairly early on in my articulated lorry driving career, it was a bit daunting and I was glad the road wasn't too busy at the time and I was able to straddle two lanes for most of it
This roundabout was on my commute to work once upon a time. I am a big fan of it. It may not be very responsible of me but I took the view that the traffic flow on it was so smooth and combined with it’s flexibility and options I hardly needed to slow down on approach as there were always options if one section was slower I could just switch options and take a different route through it.
Localite here, the magic roundabout works very well, bit of fun and hairy at rush hour but seems relatively safe.
I had to go through it in my HGV1 test, just after it was opened. I'd never seen anything like it before, but it was a piece of cake.
Yes, I passed...
As someone who worked for Swindon Council. for 20 years, this roundabout is definitely magic! Nice to see the digital sign I gave Advertisement Consent is up and going and not causing any distractions to motorists 😏
Brilliant system, the roundabout was part of the route of my driving test many years ago.
It is Magic our Morris! I am glad you've saved many a content creator from having to produce this video, where creative minds would have run wild not on magic mushrooms. Rather of how many funny, magical references to add to the video that would not make Zebedee's head spin! You have got the comical references just about right, and it is well researched too. On that note, boing! Time for bed"! said Zebedee.
There’s a similar one in High Wycombe but slightly larger, it’s pretty cool and works well.
I was going to mention this one, loads of fun to thrown a motorcycle around...
@@victoriawakefield6747 Nah, town centre. Where the A40 meets the A404. The fire station’s on it
In 1995 as Australians translocated to the area, it was a bit of a shock to come across it at night, in the rain, when the outer circles were merely slightly raised bitumen painted white!
Hi I was a new bus driver in 1974passing my test early October, and at that time NOVEMBER 74 this was still only large tyres marking out the different shapes of the small blocks between the main mini roundabouts. Many a time on very early trips you could go through from Fleming Way to Queens Drive only slowing down a little but had to be careful as if you clipped the tyres they would end up close to the FIRE STATION on Drove Road. And the NAME, that came after a reporter overhead us drivers calling it THE MAGIC ROUNDABOUT, and it was some years after before the then THAMESDOWN COUNCIL renamed it
Crying when you started playing the magic roundabout theme tune at the end. It fits so well haha
first time i've seen you. glad you popped up, gained a sub.
i learnt some things, had a laugh and wanted to come back. easy choice.
There was one in Benfleet and it's now gone. It was hilarious watching learner drivers pile down the A13/A130. It got utterly confusing when the new flyover was built as many people for a few days simply forgot which way to go around the island resulting a few dings. They do work as with the old island to get from Benfleet to the A130 was a quick turn right and right again. Now it's a mega trundle all the way around the island. The only feature of the new island is that it's near Benfleet Wimpy Bar... the joy! Failing that there are the delights of the Hemel Hempstead "Magic Roundabout".... that despite the look of complexity, it works. Even my daughter can negotiate it without having a crash.
If I ever make it to Swindon (just a pipedream right now!) then I'd like to drive round the middle bit in an anticlockwise direction, which definitely appears to be possible.
Wow man! That's deep! And watching the vehicles using the roundabout from directly overhead is magical, in a mushroomy kind of way.🍄
I knew our only landmark would appear on the channel at some point🔄hope you attempted it Jon!!
I did my driving test through the magic roundabout - once you have practiced a couple of times it makes sense, but daunting when it's your first time.
I used to live (was stationed) "just up the road" and remember vividly my first ever encounter with said roundabout. I'd only just passed my test and had never seen anything like it before. my mate in the passenger seat said, "pick and exit point and just go for it". Seemed to work just fine.
Nice footage from above at the end. It looks like some of those drivers are very timid, but not really any more complicated than any other sequence of mini roundabouts (and more sensible than "double roundabouts")
I struggle not to break out in a sweat just looking at the thing. I've travelled abroad far and wide in my time and never come across such a complicated junction.
4:49 - the outro music that I was waiting for!
Ah, the memories of that music. Simple, happy times.
Thank you. Really interesting. I'm probably not very bright, but I could easily have enjoyed a bit more about how the traffic flow works.
It's nice to know my local council arent the only ones coming up with bonkers ideas of junctions. Have a look at the 2 mini roundabouts in the centre of Poynton, Cheshire where no-one has priority!
We also have one in Colchester , we call it the Greenstead Roundabout and when you take your driving test and set off from the nearby Whitehall Test Centre you have a 50% chance of going on it. Luckily for me I went the other way that day.
The wear pattern on the tarmac is like a long-term experiment into drivers ignoring badly designed lane markings. The Road Research Laboratory would be pleased!
Good thing about the the Hemel one is that the big central roundabout is full of bushes surrounding the river that goes through it so you can only really see 1 mini roundabout in each direction which is less confusing for people new to it. The only real problem however also is due to the river because the local ducks tend to pop out with their offspring and mooch across the middle of the mini roundabouts without a care in the world so the traffic then grinds to a halt !
3:40 may be the most polite yet savagely cutting insult I have ever been victim to.
Lots of lore related to this roundabout, including one person I used to know who claims to have ragged the bollocks off his Mini Cooper S around the Magic Roundabout the moment the tape was cut and it was officially opened. Legend.
There is one in Colchester which I always find flows well compared to others around it. Also worth noting that in urban planning design, making the road uncomfortable to drive, like in the case of an unusual design like this, does deliberately slow traffic, which a) makes it safer because of lower combined energy in the event of a collision, and b) The slower speed actually allows for greater throughput of vehicles because slower vehicles drive closer together and as such you can get more in the same space than you would at a higher speed.
The concept of the roundabout is a very good one. It sets a certain standard and that is important so that road users know what to expect. They have a certain capacity and planners should learn to just deal with that. These multi-roundabout designs and the stupid spiral things are an abomination. Commuters get used to them after a couple of weeks and that makes everyone think they work but people new to the area or heading off on a different journey often struggle with them, annoying the pre-programmed commuters, ending up on the wrong road, or occasionally having an accident. What often happens is that when design capacity is being exceeded, planners make things even worse by adding traffic lights when what is required is a clean sheet of paper and a new approach. I know of roundabouts with lights that start to work better every time the lights have a fault!
Thank you for telling me what the magic roundabout tv show was.
Never knew it as I didn't grow up in Britain
Just outside Hatton Cross tube station on the south side of Heathrow, we have one of these roundabouts. Personally, I'm a fan. Especially when there is traffic clogging up on one side, leaving you the choice to go the other way.
This is the best video I've ever seen about anything
Hello! Brilliant! Also waves goodbye and now I need to watch The World's End again. (Mark Summers. It was June the 22nd, 1990...)
Ah the theme tune. 👏👏 Thanks Jon for a cracking little video. Having suffered the Magic Roundabout in Hemel Hempstead I’m inclined to give Swindon’s a wide birth. But then again, perhaps it’s a duty of all drivers to attempt it. 👍😀
Hello John, Love what you've don with the Blog, 👍The first time I met a Magic roundabout, while awake, was in Colchester, on my way with 650 other squaddies, in Trucks, heading to Harwich, for our ferry to Hamburg for a two week exercise, with BOAR, But being that I was Driving the REME recovery vehicle, I had it easy, I just followed the Green Truck in front, I was tailend charlie, anyhow it would be interesting to Know how any of these their are, I'm a retired trucky, and I don't know of many, But with 7:5 Tn limits everywhere, that's not surprising, Any hoo John mate got to dash, great work again tho,
I've known about the Magic Roundabout for many years but it's only in the last year I've been to Swindon and driven through/around it. I've gone through the system twice over the course of a few months and it's absolutely fine. It works very well and doesn't cause any confusion for a driver who hasn't used it before. It's very intuitive and easy to navigate. It should be rolled out to other large, busy roundabouts/junctions.
I sat on that bench recently when attending my club (Aldershot Town) beating Swindon Town 7-4 in the FA Cup! 🤘🏻🔴🔵
I remember all to well being faced with this when I was 17 lol
Don’t forget Hemel’s one , later when I become a driving instructor for London Buses I used to bring my trainees down there and get them going round from every direction
I did my motorbike test in Swindon and it took me onto the magic roundabout.
I hadn't heard of this before so it came as a bit of a shock, mainly the middle roundabout that goes anti-clockwise.
I still passed though, so that was nice.
Theme tune always reminds me of the job interview scene in Channel Four's Spaced 😄
Hatton Cross Underground Station near Heathrow has this same roundabout design. It's very easy to navigate and works well.