The Ultimate Test of Samurai Armor - Iron Mountain Armory
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ต.ค. 2015
- How does Samurai Armor from the Iron Mountain Armory stand up to actual combat? Against the katana, yari, yumi, ju-jitsu, and real weapons used by samurai?
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I like how a company trying to sell a product can legitimately show what their product can stand up to instead of sugarcoating it. Kudos to you.
I don't know whether this is sugarcoated/rigged, or genuine.
I would appreciate it very much if it's an independent third party doing the tests.
Search "Deadliest Warriors vs samurai armor"
Sugarcoating instead of lacquer
That armour is garbage
@@simonwilliamnoelmurray9179 Which is is better lol?
Nice video, it clearly demonstrates why both samurai and knights didn't try to penetrate the armour, but went for the gaps.
+SirPilkington the only armour that was ineffective was the armour of WWI....
+SirPilkington Yes, but thanks to media and movies, samurai alway fighting with katana and cut metal armor with ease, lolz.
pirotess2 Unfortunately that's true. Thank goodness for the debunking channels on TH-cam.
+SirPilkington I just watched a video about European armor arm getting cut almost all the way through (hanged by little piece of metal) by a katana.
+Hiraeth Ephemral can i have the link to it?
What these people are doing is a wonderful thing. They are keeping alive such a beautiful art from a rich part of history
+Eleanor Carter
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why are they not keeping the tradiotion from their own country?
ЦрногорацЛуди because unlike most cultures, Japan does not give a shit with cultural appropriation and will generally like having other cultures take in their culture as long as it is properly taken on and appreciated. That is why.
@TheCrazyKid1381 You literally only speak for yourself. As a westerner that lives in Japan with my Japanese family I have yet to meet a single person that is upset about me owning a suit of Samurai armor or practicing Eikido or Iaido. Most dont care that I'm from America, they only care that I'm willing to help preserve practices and traditions. Also at no point did Europeans try to "destroy" Japanese civilization or culture, Europe has only ever traded with Japan till ww2 and even then the allies had an agreement not to bomb specific cities to help assure the culture isnt destroyed. For someone singing praises of Japanese history, you dont seem to know much about it.
@TheCrazyKid1381 Most are not anti westerner and you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who actually hates westerners. My guess is you're not even Japanese, probably just another guy pretending to be because its "cool"
I always wondered how jiu-jitsu originated as a samurai technique. Makes sense if you're fighting against an armored foe that is highly maneuverable and resistant to your main weapons. Best way would be to grapple, lock your foe, then finish the fight with the tanto in the gaps.
They talk about tanto’s, but the wakizashi would have been the actual dagger that samurai carried in and out of battle. Even in samurai movies, the wakizashi was shown to be used to stab in a samurai’s throat and not through the chest or stomach. the wakizashi would have been a side arm for a samurai and even in places where he was forced to disarm, the wakizashi never left him, so that was the dagger that never left a warrior defenseless.
16:50
I like how he didn't stop when it fell, but went and did a follow-up stab.
No mercy! 😆
8:20 Thank you final someone who understands katana is great but not the best against armour. But hey, when it comes to light armoured infantry and filthy peasants the katana shines.
Not really the katana wasnt a war weapon. a nodachi would be better against peasants😀
Lol
Not even against light armored. There’s a reason it was dedicated as a sidearm kind of weapon.
naginata best weapon bro
nigata has good block and reach
Yep, the katana played a bigger role in Japanese warfare during the sengoku period. The samurai went from a mounted knight status to the ultimate warrior elite that had units that fought on the ground. I will say that the Ashigaru ground infantry did not have the same quality armor, so I’m sure thousands of them were killed by all weapons shown here. peasant spearman infantry probably had mass produced armor made by the lowest bid. The samurai were the officers of the army and navy during this time.
Very impressive. I am honestly surprised just how well this armor can protect. And it is easily repairable! Truly master craftsmanship and I would love to buy a set
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Lotta old white dudes in Japan all of a sudden...
We are part of the 丸い目 samurai clan.
LOL - Round Eye Samurai Clan?
You dont have to be Japanese to appreciate their history and culture.
But you'll see white people doing this in Japan today whereas 1,000 years ago.. not so many.
You have more and more foreigners in japanese tv shows as well. As other example, there is also Anjin Miura, aka William Adams, who was a real retainer of Tokugawa Ieyasu with a fief, married to a woman from a samurai family and all. His real story inspired the Shogun tv serie.
+Jiraiya Sama he was a slave. and became a samurai. that's all I know about him.
Two things stuck out to me. 1) the armor held up beautifully to the yari which is what I thought would damage it the most and 2) that katana did tremendous against such sturdy armor. I fully expected fitings to come loose or a rolled edge on the katana but after hitting steel at full power it was almost unscathed. Both products appear to be top of the line!
Metatron brought me here, one day mark my words I will buy an armor here.
Planning 2 do the exact same... They already freaking showed me a' armor I literally asked for... I asked 1 with purple paint or cords N few days later... Well look what I found.... A nice suit of armor with purple cords... Oh look... 30% discount on top...
Don't have the means 2 get it tho but maybe next year or the year after il try gettn it... No idea how tho lol
@Kaiser Franz von Lappen der 2. Damn, still have no money so I decided to make my own, so far I have only done the right kote and the chainmail, though I have no time for it now since I'm at college and im in quarantine (it's in another house)
@@Demonslayer153 dang at least you'll get it in a year
@@Demonslayer153 personally I'd love mine to be most black with red outlines
Great testing, I'm investing in getting one of the Taisho Class armors when I can, The sword survived well, I can imagine my 1045 sword would most likely break or warp cutting away at armor like you were. the armor has certainly proved it's strength surviving what it did. Great testing!
Did you get it
Yea did you?
Coming from a background doing European armoured combat, it's very interesting to see how it was done in Japan, in a delightfully weeaboo-free format.
I understand that it is perpetually necessary to remind people that, whatever Hollywood thinks, you cannot, in fact, cut through armour. That said, the elephant in the room for samurai armour is the huge gaps in the armpits and upper face, as well as the exposed fingers.
I had two questions, as well.
1. Is there a unique Japanese fighting style for dealing with armour? European fencing manuals are very explicit in their distinction between fighting in armour vs fighting without. I'm aware of some Japanese literature on unarmoured fighting, but not of any armoured combat treatises.
2. How much does that armour weigh? I realize it will vary depending on the size of the wearer, but a general range would be nice. European armour ranges from about 50 to 65 pounds and can cover the wearer in steel from head to foot, so I would be interested to know if the Japanese gained any mobility for wearing armour with (relatively) less protective qualities.
+MisdirectedSasha +Shugyo3302
I'll let Mike from Muso Shugyo Ryu answer question number 1.
2: Typical samurai armor weighs between 20 and 50 lbs, depending on style and additions. The a traditional Yokohagi Okegawa ni-mai dô weighs:
kabuto 4.2 lbs
Menpo .8 lbs
Kote 1.8 lbs each
Haidate 2.2 ~ 3 lbs
Sode 1.4 lbs
Suneate: 1 lbs each
Do 10.5 ~ 14.2
Just like European armor there are different styles. Some armor has gaps and others leave the samurai fully covered. Samurai could wear chain mail, kikko manchria, manju no wa and/or kikko Tebukuro under their armor to protect the gaps in their armor. Basically gambison with chainmail or iron plates sewn inside. They also had armor plates which would cover gaps in the armor. These where known as "okubyo-ita" (coward's board).
To put it bluntly - Not all knights would wear full armor. Full European armor of course offered great protection, but at the cost of visual impairment, over heating, fatigue, ease (needing help to put on and take off) and comfort.
Warriors must have culture and part of the Japanese culture is to find balance. The samurai applied this principle in their armor, creating armor that offered great protection, with as little negative effects as possible. Quit simply a well balanced suit of armor.
I think the weight questions has been answered in other posts, so would like to answer the first one. Yes, there are different styles of fighting, both in and out of armour as it changes things dramatically. At Our club, we train in principles rather than techniques, which allows one set of movements that would work if no armour was worn to be adapted differently if the opponent was armoured. Makes training very interesting as well as informative. Understanding is key really. Cause and effect in action. This does allow a practical view of history as well. I have found that there are two versions of all history, the romantic and the real. Often the romantic is more popular. Both exist and the understanding of both as a whole is essential. This certainly applies to Japan and the Samurai/Shinobi.
I remember reading in a couple sources that samurai army generally weighed around 35 pounds. I can't speak from a position of expertise, but I'm pretty sure they had a system for going after the gaps in each others armor.
*armor
+Shugyo3302 generally speaking, the real question is how do you change your use of the sword when fighting an armoured man, in eurpean fighting half swording is used to essentially turn the longsword into a short iron spear to better thrust with more power and control, not to mention said swords used by armoured men at arms are usually very thrust centric, the swords are also used a great deal to lever the opponent and assist grappling techniques
what is the japanese reponse to armour using the uchigatana or tachi? seeing as how they are mostly cut oriented.. what role does it usually play?
I'd like to test western spears, axes, & swords against this armor....all of them properly sharpened too.
I would also like to test eastern spears, axes, & swords against western armor....with full quality steel.
+Michael Groesbeck it wouldnt be any different i dont think. Unless youre talking about western style weapons specifically designed to crack open or crush or bypass the armor plating, it wouldnt have done shit to a warrior wearing it, Eastern OR Western.
Alex flake Well I am being inclusive, but the weapon types I described I am being very specific, but I want them tested against all armor types in a single 3 hour concise video....so that people will stop floating around on youtube looking at this old shit.
+Michael Groesbeck
It would be a very popular video. We will be more than happy to craft the armor for you. Please contact one of our dealers for pricing.
Samurai Armor Oh no, I wouldn't be producing the video. I do not have enough funds to do so. However, I would be happy to be a humble contributor/investor among many, if we can but compile a very rational documentary, with no music & no story.
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BUT THEY STILL DIDNT HAVE SHIELDS
WHY JAPAN
WHY
The Kofun period of Japan had shields
tactic brother
Tactic?
The Japanese mainly used spear formations
Their weapons and fighting techniques made using shields very impractical. So the samurai adapted their armor to deflect arrow attacks. Arrows will glance off the armor if struck from an angle. The brim of the helmet would be lowered to shield their face from falling arrows. The back neck guards and shoulder armor are made so they will deflect arrows away when falling down upon them.
Impressive video! I as an evil European armour fan greatly appreciate the professionality of this video.
To defeat armour as they tested here you can't just attack armour - you get the warrior on the ground and stab the shit out of their .... weak spots :p
BRAVO!
+RyanRyzzo Second Ryan's statement regarding this video (well, done, gentlemen!) as being impressive. One question (to Samurai Armor):Did you try a draw cut when attacking the shoulder padding and just leave it out of the video? When you struck the shoulder padding, a straight, direct blow was used and not a draw cut and I would expect direct strikes to cause very little damage to textile armor compared to draw cuts (I understand that blunt force damage to the person wearing the armor would be a completely different story).Thanks, and keep up the great work!
+Katzbalger001
Thank you. As you can see with the simple downward strike, the padding split. However drawing the blade would had made very little difference because of the kikko inside the padding. It would take several cuts to work your way through the kikko and padding.
After the filming we all took turns attacking the armor using different cuts and there where very little differences in the outcome. The katana was proven fairly useless against any part of the armor other than simply wearing down the softer parts.
+Michael A.
in the end, the best way to kill a samurai is to put him down and stab him? the armor is basically impenetrable, how would a samurai kill another samurai because i find it quite hard to imagine one of them slamming the other one to the floor and stab him? (pardon my grammar, english is not my native language)
and i don't think that going for the gaps will work on a skilled samurai
+Alex Ciubotariu Sure it will, the gaps are quite large. They had blunt weapons as well, that could give nasty conccussions.
I'm glad this shows them using spears and bows more. Katanas were rarely used, mostly at times of desperate / last resort scenarios while Naginata were the most dominant weapon along side the yumi with guns.
Swords were not just use in a last resort scenario in some contacts they were actually the preferred weapon.
@@eagle162 I agree, in more confined spaces but in most battles that was never the case.
I’m not sure but I think the pole arms used by samurai in battle are not naginata. I think they were larger than naginata. They look similar though.
Great video.This really show me how well Japanese armor fared against Japanese weaponry and the wearer's ability to survive such fierce attacks. Many people(katana fanboy) actually thought the samurai's armor were made from wood and were greatly ineffective against katana , which has been disproved by this video :D
+khai do
Glad our video brought some light to expose those wise tails to be false. We will be posting some more soon, so please subscribe if you want to learn more.
those people are morons. both katana and samurai armor are result of hundreds of years of actual combat against each other.
Discovery channel, national geographic channel, and history channel couldnt make a better documentary than what you guys just did! well done! congratulations.. a remarkably interesting documentary to watch! totally worth my time. *standing applause
As explained in the program, the secret of samurai armor is to protect against longbows. Japanese longbows have a long range of 400m and 150m, and are so powerful that their arms and necks fly off when hit at close range. Japanese armor is equipped to protect against this large bow. Chinese and Korean bows are short bows, so their armor is thin. During the war with China and Korea, 50 Chinese shortbows were fired into Japan's armor, leaving almost all of Japan's armor intact. Shoot from a distance that cannot be reached with a short bow, and after annihilating the archery infantry, charge and kill them with a Japanese sword. In Korea, 200,000 Chinese and Korean troops surrounded the 7,000 members of the Shimazu clan who were holed up in a castle.There is a record that the Shimazu clan attacked from the castle and killed 80,000 people before escaping, but the number of Shimazu clan casualties was only two.
please note at 1.40 the bow shown it the picture has been strung the wrong way round (the inside is on the outside ) these were recure bows !
You've earned yourself another Subscriber! These are exactly the kind of quality videos I've been wanting to see on TH-cam for a long time! Thank you for posting.
+NovaMan 350 Thank you very much. It was a pleasure to make this video and we will be making more.
A samurai weaponry video that is not a complete circlejerk?
Nice, twas good.
European armor was made for short combat periods, especially during warmer seasons. Samurai armor was perfect in that regard as it can be worn much easier than full plate, it’s lighter and still offers very good protections agains missile fire and cutting instruments.
hidden inside that badass armor and sharp swords are the worlds most loyal soldier of all time. couldnt get enough of samurai movies.
If you guys keep up to this standard of video, you will be popular indeed!
+XPR Mitch (XPRMitch) Thank you. We are planning to release more videos. Please Subscribe to our TH-cam and follow us on FaceBook so we can keep you updated with videos, pictures and information.
+Obiarshi WEEABOO! WEEABOO! WEEABOO!
***** Go train in an actual martial art. Then come back and talk to me again. You have demonstrated complete ignorance on the nature of martial arts, especially Asian martial traditions.
+Obiarshi Did you know white Samurai existed? Look up William Adams, he is the first western Samurai.
***** Speaking of black people, there were also a black Samurai. His name is Yasuke and he was Oda Nobunaga's retainer in 1581 and 1582.
With this, now we absolutely know why musket is feared back when it was introduced in Japan. Back before, they had to fight hand-to-hand with skillful techniques of swordmanship to be able to defeat their opponent, but then came gunpowder and lead ball. I remember one book that I read about Sengoku Period, where a musket could easily penetrate enemy armor. Musket might be expensive, but training samurai takes years of masterful discipline and dedications. Musket is expensive but once procured, give it to a man, train him for weeks then he's ready for combat (this sentence however, I read it from Western history).
Good video there, mate. I'm quite surprised that Japanese armors holds better than what I've thought. Part-fiction and part fact, I thought that Japanese armor is penetrable by arrows or massive spear thrust. But now I know more about it :)
Actually wealthy samurais in the 16th century had stuff under the armor that would stop the balls from the old fashioned muskets
I cannot believe that such a professionally and elegantly made video has so few viewers!
+Chen Alex
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+Chen Alex most people hate eastern culture thanks to medis
1:04 -The iconic image of the samurai...
*Pans to white guys marching
Oh no ! A white person is interested in history and other cultures ? Call the police ! Its not like he can help being white? it seems like he has no control over his skin color !
BUTTyPOO Nice name
You do realise Japanese are actually more white than you'd think, not all of them, but a good majority.
あなたわばか。。
わではなく、はですよ！
Listen to their accent. You think Japanese people are just swinging on fuckin trees like apples where they're from?
I can't wait to buy my own suit of armour!
+rein mittendorp We are excited to have you as a client. When you are ready you can order a standard model suit or contact us so we can craft a custom suit of armor for you.
I saw and the guy in the video at a feit, I when I saw the armour for myself it looked tough and really cool, but I never would have though it was that strong.
12:19 Though it was Darth Vader
Darth Vader's appearance and helmet were actually heavily inspired by samurai armor
The concept of Darth Vader came from samurais...even the jedis...
Pleasure to see martial artists putting their craft into practice, very good video
+AB
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You guys really deserve more subs, this is very high quality and very enjoyable content.
Sorry if i missed something but do you have a reenactment club? If so how does something like that work? Do you train specific martial arts or? Also where can i find one of these clubs?
+Lapiz Bouchaut Thank you for your kind comments and we hope to have more subscribers as we will be posting more videos soon. Muso Shugyo Ryu is a martial arts and living history club dedicated to the Japanese samurai. They are the group which performed the testing of our armor. They are based in the UK. However there are other groups spread out around the world.
Some of the martial arts that samurai trained in are: Jujutsu, Kenjutsu, Battōjutsu, Iaijutsu, Sōjutsu, Ninjutsu, Judo, Aikido, budo and many others which originated from Japan (Koryū)
For more information on Muso Shugyo Ryu you can visit their facebook page at: facebook.com/muso.shugyoryu/
if you get military equpiment today as in modern and fuse with the japanese iron moutain armory, it would be intresting how strong the armor is. Kevlar replacement, reinforce steel plating (have couple pieces of spartan armors in cuts to fuse with the armor), kevlar's strings, spartan mask and additonally spartan armor helm as in samurai, as you get you have mobled soldier samurai of the future with guns.
Your cuts were so precise and that set of armor is really high quality indeed, very impressive both the armor set and demonstrator himself. Thank you for this good video😊
Thank you very much. We are glad you appreciate our demonstration and passion to our craft. the video is quite old, and we have made even more improvements to our armor since :)
Where can one get an affordable/good quality yumi bow? And was the armor tested temper/upgraded to the .2mm thickness as offered on the website?
This armor set is now more similar to our Kachi set with standard thickness and tempering. Our current Gashira and Taisho class armor will be stronger and when upgrading either, will be even more durable. The temper / upgrade thickness of .2mm is noticeably stronger and slightly heavier.
I am also a descendant of the samurai. My parents' house has Japanese swords, daggers, large bows, and spears used by their ancestors. In old wars, swords are rarely used to slash each other, and most are bows and spears. You don't play with a sword from the beginning. Also, it is very difficult to stab the end with a sword, and a dagger called Yoroi-doshi is inserted into the gap of the armor to kill it.
It's all fun and games until someone rushes you with a kanabō
Or a yari
Greetings fellow bushi,
I thoroughly enjoyed watching your yoroi be put to the test. I was wondering, where did you get the yari you used against the yoroi? I ask this, because I have been looking for a functional, battle-ready yari to use in sojutsu. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely,
Noah F.
Thank you for your kind words. We are happy you enjoyed our video. Please contact www.samurai-armour.co.uk for details about the yari and if they have stock to sell them.
I am very impressed by this video! You're not trying to make Samurai armour look better than European medieval armours with crappy comparisons, you show a lot of knowledge, and aren't worried about damaging your test armour! Congratulations, I really like your work!
However, although it is very clear that armour gets damaged over time, and that it isn't anything bad as long as it protects the wearer, I'm still surprised by the deformations those plates went through...
+Railriderchris
Thank you very much. We wanted to keep the video as informative as possible without going into too much detail; as the video is already quite long. We will be making more videos in the future going further into the crafting and repairs. There are of course several types of samurai armor crafting with layering plates differently, etc, but also important to consider sword and armor steel would be different throughout time, regions and clans. Both this sword and armor are crafted from very similar quality in steel to make the testing more "even". If a high quality blade was used on a very low quality suit of armor, there might had been different results and vice-versa.
We will be posting more. Please subscribe so you don't miss them.
Michael A.
I will subscribe! Thanks for your kind reply! :-9
Ok thats It. Ubisoft needs to make assassin creed on Japan area. Ninja vs samurai stuff
what makes you think the assassin will be a Ninja in Assassins creed fuedal japan
X Infinity what makes you think it wont be?
Oh yeah nvm, but I wish he is wearing the all black cloak thing
Many Samurai were themselves Ninja, and the Samurai were not exclusive against employing one of their own for assassinations. There were indeed Ninja training schools and dedicated villages, but Ninja were not against becoming Samurai. It wasn't like the Templars vs Assassins in that they were enemies.
So lots of Samurai train in Ninjutsu
Amazing quality. You guys won't stay with so few subs for long! Subscribed.
As for the samurai armour, it really doesn't look like it was designed to act as a shield, unlike european armour, rather like a life-saver in case you make a mistake, but nonetheless it did the job, even as a shield, splendidly.
I was thinking the same thing, it's almost as if more skill was expected from the warrior when compared to their European counterparts.
+XPR Mitch (XPRMitch) +Tork789 I do not know a great deal about European history, but I do know that for the Samurai culture (for roughly 600 years of it) honor was gain through battle and being the best martial artist as you could possibly be. Even the women would train using naginata. For the samurai class it wasn't about expending energy, by swinging wildly in combat or wielding heavy weapons to break through shields and armor, it was about precision. So yes, a great deal of skill was certainly expected of samurai, because if they didn't have it, they wouldn't last very long.
+Tork789 Thank you for your kind words regarding our documentary. We plan to start posting bi-weekly or at the least monthly videos starting in January.
Yes, there is a reason why modern day armor is based off of samurai armor. The laminated plating offers more diverse protection while being light and more maneuverable than plate armor. Like modern armor it focuses protection to your most vital areas. This makes the armor more efficient in design as well as protection; all while fatiguing the wearer far less than full plate armor.
Very hard and direct strikes to the arms where less common. You arm is more likely to be sliced by a katana, than it would be chopped. So more simple protection was only needed. Also, silk in itself is difficult to cut and offers protection from edged weapons. So the combination of silk and mail was very effective.
+Samurai Armor
Well, actually, plate armour is not more fatiguing or even less in case it's tailor-made to fit the wearer. But it also can be a real pain in the ass if it's not.
And that's where the practicality of laminated armor comes in, since it fits to a much wider range of body sizes, and thus makes a more efficient design for the modern day body armor, since you simply can't fit every armor piece to every soldier.
+Tork789 yes, the laminated armor can be bent and manipulated to fit different body types, where thicker plate armor, like you know, either fits you or doesn't. This also helps when rolling around in armor... sometimes getting that little extra flexibility makes all the difference.
Regarding the fatigue part, I was referring to only wearing the plated armor on your vital parts. Having the extra weight (as little as it is) on your arms and legs, especially adding chainmail to soft areas in the armor, really weighs on you in time. Not only in muscle use but in dispersing heat. As you said, if it isn't custom fitted for you, it can also be a real pain. Not to mention trying to breath while wearing a full face mask.
This also brings up the issue of repairing armor. Just about anyone can repair samurai armor, but it takes more skill to repair / mend European plate armor (heating, hammering, etc). With the samurai armor, you can pull the parts needed off a fallen samurai and mend it to your armor quite easily, not worrying so much about custom fitting.
Plate armor does offer superior protection, but just like anything in life, there is a balance of functionality and practicality. There where some spectacular European suites crafted, but they where fewer and far between and if you stack on a few pounds over the winter, your armor won't fit very well come spring.
The one thing I love about European armor is that there is such a large verity of it, between leather, chain and plate, even laminated armor and a combination of all. With such a large verity of styles of armor, it is no wonder there is such a verity of weapons and fighting techniques. It is difficult to compare just 1 or even 5 styles of armor to samurai armor. It is unfortunate that most people instantly think of a heavy suit of full plate armor when they think of a knight's armor.
Wow ... i'm happy youtube showed me this random video . Glad i aquired knowledge about your products .
I got some kachi class Nimaido samurai armor and I gotta say, I love it a lot! I occasionally walk around my college campus wearing it!
Good video, I've often wondered about how well samurai armour would stand up to testing like this. I'm fairly alarmed at how much damage was actually done to it by the weapons used, even if it was just chipping and denting enough of that could cause problem. But as someone mentioned somewhere else in the comments, the armour was made to spec for the battlefield situations it came across. It would have been prohibitively expensive, given Japan's lack of iron, to make it much stronger, and unnecessary because this grade of armour clearly stands up to the weapons used against it.
I suppose something to consider also is that feudal Japanese armies, like medieval European ones, were not mostly comprised of the best armoured, best armed people, but the lowly footsoldiers and Ashigaru, who would not have been as heavily armoured or armed, depending on what they could afford.
+heresjonny666
That is exactly correct. Most lords where not very wealthy so the lower rank the samurai or foot soldier the lower the quality the armor and weapon would be. We know that some samurai and ashigaru wore paper armor. The paper was layered thickly and then lacquered to look like real armor and to give protection from the rain. There are records of some lords arming their men with bamboo swords and wooden yari, so they would appear to have weapons when marching and in battle; with hopes they would survive and could pick weapons and armor off of other fallen samurai.
I thought I was the only one alarmed at how much damaged it took from a sword, I admit I’m biased towards European armor but you wouldn’t see that damage in European armor that costs the same
@@anthuan2028ヨーロッパの騎士の鎧もそこまで鉄板が分厚い訳じゃないから、勢いよく切りつけられれば普通に凹むよ。
重量のことを考えれば必然とそうなる。
@@Johannes--evangelium736 I don’t speak that language bro
I'd love to see iron Mountain make more armor patterns beside the ni mai do. Things like go mai do, roku mai awase do, yon mai do, or the various haramaki types.
Or even try the tatehagi (vertical riveted plates instead of horizontal)
+xxAntiOtakuxx
Thank you. These are the most common armory designs for orders we receive. We craft many types of armor, but do not have them listed all on our webiste. We are trying to post everything but are very busy crafting the armor. Please "like" our FaceBook page to see pictures about our different armor styles and you can also ask us to post pictures of particular styles of armor you would like to see.
I don’t know why I can’t stop watching this Over and over again
Where do you buy your armors and katanas
21:30 wow...they are even economical.
Intresting. Looks like lammellar armour is stronger than it looks. And woodblock paintings depicting bushi with several arrows sticking from their back while continuing to fight seems true. How is it compared to Nanban armour? Surely there must be a reason why some lords preferred the European style armour from Spain/Portugal?
Indeed it is very effective. Nanban armour was chosen more so for its ability to deflect rifle shots and because it was easier to make it thicker (1.8mm thickness).
Lamellar armor is very strong, the Mongols also used it and spread it throughout the middle east and east europe (where they faced off vs knights in plate). Basically each metal strip overlapping allows multi layer of protection and absorbing the blows, while keeping it very light. A full suit of Samurai metal lamellar weighs around 12kg, half that of the western plate mail which is typically 25-30kg.
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The chest plate was not lamellar. It seems to be plate armor. Those appeared around 14-15 century. By then, they would've already used the muskets. And the construction seems to be a "Okegawa-do gusoku" -used by foot soldiers- which means the musket shots would've easily pierced it. About the bow he used: Very disappointed that he did not pull it all the way back. If he did, the arrow would've at least stuck onto the armor.
The reason they put a lot of the armor on their shoulders was because a enemy commonly attacked the shoulder and neck it usually worked pretty well.
the yumi was strung the wrong way
+Salafi Bowhunter Yes, very good eye for detail and thank you for paying close attention to our video.
(copied from previous response) " Yes, we used 2 different Yumi during the filming. We used a damaged Yumi during fight scenes with target arrows for safety reasons. However when filming the armor test we used the correct Yumi first with a target arrow and after with an arrow head better suited for armor. "
We hope otherwise you enjoyed the video.
+Samurai Armor Modern yumi used for shooting paper targets are a fraction of the strength of war bows, and the archer in the video is not drawing full length - Japanese archers draw further back using a thumb draw which gives a longer acceleration of the arrow and a cleaner release. A properly drawn and properly shot yumi - even a lightweight one intended for paper targets - should perform better. Add the strength of a real war bow and I think you'd get very different results.
+Samurai Armor how many lb was the bow being used against the armor?
+Alby Johnson
This yumi has an 80 lbs draw.
+Michael A. that's quite high. I'm surprised it didn't punch through
Oh man... jaja, I've been waiting for this for months. Then it came out kind of under my nose. Though, very interesting, I must say.
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what was the butterfly fan thing used for and what is it called?
+szymon krawiec
It is called a dansen (Fand of uchiwa shape). It was used by officers with the rank of Field Marshal to direct troops, ward off arrows and stones and even as a sunshade. Often made of iron or wood.
Wow! I just lost $20 to my girlfriend because I said the arrow would easily go through. Impressive!
trying to poke steel armour with a tanto as though you think it is a rag doll, is obviously not going to penetrate... I just wish that these videos that people put up were a little bit more legitimate. Also, the way that you guys stabbed it with the spear was pretty hard to watch, its like, you wouldn't throw a shot like that (week and off point) unless you were aiming for a gap in the armour.
+tom williams
Thank you for your comments. This is not a video to teach techniques, it is a video to demonstrate how a typical samurai armor suit would stand up to attacks in combat.
The point of stabbing at the armor with a tanto was to show that the tanto can not penetrate armor, which many people believe it can. This test disproved the myth. Yes, stabbing at the gaps is obvious and we all know what happens when you stab a person with a katana, tanto or yari. We will mention it in our future videos though, so it will be more clear to people who are uncertain.
As for attacking with the yari, it was meant to show the ability of the armor to resist the strikes and what damage the armor can take. Yes, of course you would want to strike the less protected areas of the armor, but they are difficult to hit when someone is moving and fighting back. However yari strikes will help daze and unbalance your opponent, as well as creating weak spots and gaps in the armor.
Thank you for your comments. In future videos we will try to make them more legitimate by better explaining our intentions and reasoning for the strikes more clearly.
I am just trying to say that:
For the tanto strike, he could have put a little bit more effort into it.
For the katana strike, the way that you strike with a bladed weapon makes all the difference. So the experience of the warrior directly affects the results.
For the yari/spear, everything was satisfactory, except for the thrust, it just wasn't a historically accurate/powerful thrust.
These tests proove that "opportunity strikes" do not penetrate the armor, but powerful strikes, aimed directly perpendicular, even to the most resistant part of the armor, will penetrate.
After all my criticism, I must say I really appriciate the video, and thank you for commenting back.
tom williams
Great insights Tom. However when using a tanto, you need to be up close and when thrusting into armor, it really wouldn't had made much of a difference if he hit the armor harder as the tanto tip bent.
As for the yari, the suit and dummy weight about 70 lbs and was supported by a back brace in a 45% angle and anchored to the ground. The thrusts where strong enough to push the 70 lbs, anchored target up and over, knocking it down. The thrusts where pretty powerful. I am not sure what kind of thrusts you could suggest are more powerful, accept maybe running at the armor maybe? Please if you could provide us with a video demonstration of a more powerful thrust with a yari, we could possibly reproduce it.
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***** Yes, it is very difficult to pierce armor. Different spear tips will have different effects. A more sharp and pointed tip would likely poke holes in the armor, but at the same time the tip would become stuck for a few seconds, leaving the attacker a little vulnerable. A more rounded tip like this yari is meant more for breaking the laminated plates in the armor, while pounding the wearer; trying to knock them off balance and disorientate them. There are pros and cons to every weapon.
Nice account you quoted. It demonstrates how effective armor is at protecting the wearer and how a warrior must be more skilled in both weapon and armor to be effective.
You are welcome in this conversation. I just must say, it is not nearly that hard to penetrate armour with weapons, it just depends what weapon you use (as was aforementioned). I believe the account is a possibility, whether true or not, it sounds like something that may truly happen.
Thank you for this most interesting video ! Looks like the difference between Japanese and European armor is the difference between the Zero and the P 51 fighter planes .
Hey iron mountain! Can you tell me where on your site to find the armour on screen at 9:09? I really love what you guys are doing and I think you should continue it!
That is most likely custom made, they offer custom made suits for extra if you want it.
great video guys!!!
You probably should of mentioned that the armour you are testing does not represent all styles of armour in Japan so people don't base their understanding of Samurai armour on the suit you tested because some suits offered more protection & some offered less but still well done.
They mention the suit classes multiple times.
Very nice! I enjoyed the tests, and if I had money, I'd probably buy some of that armor. Also, loved the Takeda kamon on that armor :P
+Lingering Trees Thank you very much!
I would like to know the price ranges of each of the qualities of armor, kachi, gashira, and the taisho so I can know how much I would need to save to get a one of these armors
你們演出的像真正的日本武士一樣好，優秀❤😊
Thank you for this video.
Me: Samurai on a budget.
I would rock a wooden sword having spent all my budget on the lowest armour
Where do you get your training swords ?
As noted in the video, they were provided by Top Quest, Inc. One of the last sword companies that maintain passionate about crafting quality swords for the sake of crafting quality over quantity.
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I like how this video focuses on the Warring States samurai, rather than the usual Edo samurai. And I like you focused on bows, spears and polearms rather than swords. Those are the real battlefield weapons!
+thecomradered
Thank you!
wow, keep at it. i see this channel growing! subbed.
one thing I thought would be awesome. If you could put pressure sensitive (liquid) packets that'd explode to know how much force went through. When your budget went up, maybe real electronic sensors for more data. then maybe i know nothing. anyway, great channel!
+Benjamin Kham
Thank you for your suggestion. Maybe one day we will have a dummy that records impact pressure.
After 16th century, Samurai armor comes equipped with bullet proof against fire arms. It looks old type armor. Greetings from Tokyo, Japan.
+core remix
Hello in Japan. Thank you for watching. Yes, the namban-do yoroi or "Southern Barbarian Armor" was copied from the visiting European's armor. The angle of the armor plating would help deflect both musket and arrow shots. It was a great advancement in Samurai armor, which we will test in the future.
Exactly. Surprised you understand detailed our culture. Thank you very much. Greetings from Tokyo, Japan.
+core remix
It is our great pleasure learning your history and culture. We feel connected to Japanese history and culture which is why we have great interest and pride reproducing the most authentically crafted samurai armor we able to.
I have a daimyou quality armor and I really want to fight with it, could it withstand the same as the taishou quality armor?
Hello Modern Warrior :) The Taisho class armor set in this video is now closer to our Kachi armor sets, with acceptation to the kabuto.
So yes, your Daimyo class armor sets are crafted similar and will withstand the same usage.
Thank you for the reply
Nice video. Is the mail you used butted or riveted mail? I think I saw butted but wanted to ask.
+Cody Chronister
Yes, keeping with tradition we used butted chain mail.
Traditional Japanese kusari tended to be wound over itself, though, like key rings. It wasn't butted.
This clearly shows that armour and weapons of a nation is based on the type of terrain and envirement they are most likely to fight in, that's why it's really hard to compare them. take a knight and a samurai (classical example) the knight is likely to win in an open field, but combat conditions aren't Always the same, if they were to meet in uneven ground the samurai would have the free movement and agility of his armor to outmaneauvre the knight. so the knight and the samurai are the best at their own terrain and combat situations but aren't comparible to one another.
+Pasha Staravoitau but the armour is heavier making it harder to climb, if the samurai would be on lower ground compared to the knight, well then he's f*cked I guess
well then i give up the knight wins
+younoobskiller That's what happens when you go by "common knowledge" and not research. Although, there is a thing to be said for how the weight is distributed in each type of armor.
+Pasha Staravoitau
I have 3 suits of samurai armor and my heaviest weighs in at 26 lbs, which is about half of what a full plated knights armor would weigh in at. The bulk of the samurai armor hangs off the shoulders and chest; leaving your arms and legs quite free of the extra weight. After walking, climbing, running, fighting, swinging a weapon; every extra pound really starts to wear on you. All that extra armor a knight may have worn also holds in allot of heat. Now samurai could had worn extra armor and chainmail to fill in the gaps, but most didn't (we will talk about that in future videos).
Another important fact to remember is not every knight or samurai was a trained, seasoned and good warrior. Most where born into their titles and never deserved being among the warrior class.
+Michael A. I already thought it was inlogical for full plate and samurai armor to be so close in weight, (looking at how much is covered and how many layers of armor) thx!. btw do you do reenactment, what is your favorite weapon when you do them
Must damage: katana
Must efectivity: yumi (arrow)
I wish I could join in on this! This looks like a lot of fun!
Beautiful...I think they should specify which period their suits are based on though, the earlier suits worn by the Samurai class 'the Oyoroi' were of overlapping iron lamellar which wasn't half as flexible and unencumbering as the later period laminate
Still a class demonstration, I've spent over a decade practicing unarmoured Jujutsu I'd love to get a suit and see the differences for myself ☺
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So all the tales of Japanese swords cutting through gun barrels can not be correct! if they can not cut through thin plate. Or am i missing something?
+Ian Ryan no your right it can't cut through gun barrels unless its really crappy metal.
+Ian Ryan
Many stories are exaggerated because they are told by the victor. However some gun barrels where made from iron or soft / low carbon steel. If a blade is made from stronger steel, it could technically cut through the softer metal used to make the barrel. But most of the stories are just Hollywood fantasy and legend.
It's a myth that's all no sword can cut a gun barrel
+HiiPER MaaDMaan And if it somehow did (super crappy gun smith), you'd have to throw away the sword because of the severe damage it takes. And trading a very expensive katana for a musket of shady quality, is not such a good deal at all, even in the case that it happens to work (which is a slim chance, as you rightly said).
yup, it would be one crap gun barrel
please correct me if i am wrong but i think the agility test part is a bit wrong(at least the video they showed) coz if i remember correctly, they have ninja's for the sneaking and scouting part. And isn't sneaking behind your opponent a dishonorable act?
please correct me thanks
Samurai would need to scale enemy defenses when attacking their strong holds. Samurai would perform night raids, sneaking into enemy camps while in their armor. Not every Daimyo had Shinobi in their employment. The larger majority of Shinobi were from the samurai class and seen as the "elite" troops that would typically perform espionage, spy, provide security, counter spying, etc.
As far as being dishonorable, there was very little honor amongst samurai. Dating back to their conception in the Heian period until the Edo period they were constantly switching loyalties, plotting against and ambushing each other. They would team up to kill other samurai on the battlefield.
There was the Bushido Code and they were honorable warriors, but their honor was more of pride than loyalty. The Bushido Code is more of a romantic memory.
um, im building my own armor as a mix of everything, but how warm is the armor? how comfortable were these in whichever climate you are in, and what was the temperature there? and, the maille is budded, is that historically accurate?
I recall it was a warm sunny day, in the 80s. The armor was fine in the shade but could get a little warm in the sun. Overall the armor is quite comfortable to wear and you don't really realize that you are sweating underneath it.
As for the mail, it was quite often butted in the Sengoku period because the armor was being produced so quickly and riveted mail was much more timely and costly to make.
+Michael A. I see. Thank you
Amazing video! I love the Japanese samurai culture this video has stretched my knowledge about the traditional amours. 👍
+Ryan Ray
Thank you. I am glad you share our passion and we where able to help educate you a little more. Please subscribe as we will be posting new videos very soon.
+Mark Anthony Bulaon sorry what?
Finally some legit video on real armor bruh
Fun video - you deal with armour strength well. My only thought would be that you could include demonstrating how easily or difficult it would be to bypass the armour by striking the gaps... :)
Planning on looking at fighting skills on some later videos to explore this subject.
I feel like I'm watching a commercial for Iron Mountain Armory.
Damn imagine if samurai and knights were allies in the fudel ages
Eastern crusade?
Knights obsolete samurai are super mobile
@@killermachine6454 European full plate armor allowed for great mobility. Very little restriction in the movement.
Killer Machine Say that when a mace bonks you on the kabuto
@@kaijuslayer3334 lol
Anyone else see this video and was interested cause you watched 'For Honour' xD
got me
Yup
This proves that the Katana is not the ultimate sword lol
what do you mean
Katana weebs think that a Katana can sheer through armor like butter, while this video proves it wrong
Cool, I noticed two things: 1) Its hard to kill someone in armor, European or Japanese 2) the Yumi bow rotates upon loosening the arrow. I wonder if it improves range or penetrative force over "standard" bows. Interesting Vid anyhow
Longbow was a lot more powerful
The bow test was nice, but let's remember they'd have additional padding beneath the armor in order to protect against such weapons
but in movies, it seems the samurai armors are useless, the blades and arrows always penetrate with ease. thanks to this video!
Check out Ming Bow vs Chinese Brigandine. They use real warbows and real heavy arrows that go right through armor.
The bow used here is not a warbow nor was the arrow heavy enough.
I dont care much about test I just want to have one of those awesome armor :))
+Sindshost To go to a grocery store? lmao
just run up while they're testing the armour and yoink a set.
I was actually surprised at how much visible damage there was on this armor - most of the medieval armor I see go through a beating with swords, spears, and maces, you can usually barely even tell. I guess the damage isn't as obvious when the armor doesn't have pain that chips off, but the dents are usually much more shallow. I've seen people half-sword some of this armor and do little more than dent the armor - and with the right kind of arming sword, you can get some serious punching power out of the end by tying to stab. And that chain mail? I'd say that you probably shouldn't have seen so many rings flying off it - yeah, it probably wouldn't have cut the guy's arm open, but at the same time, I've seen mail armor deflect a whole hell of a lot more than that without breaking.
I honestly would have liked to see this armor stood up on a mannequin, while you try to fire arrows through the gaps - that way it would show how it would fare in actual combat - no one is going to try to take an armored guy out at a distance with a bow by shooting him in the chest. They'd be going for the ring mail, probably, if they were to try and shoot at someone wearing this armor. That or the eyes - the Kabuto has no nose guard - at least, not like the kind you see in, say, a lot of Viking helmets, and it doesn't have some form of visor like in a bascinet or like some sallets did. I guess some of the mempo do cover the full face, but in the armor we saw here, anywhere above the bridge of the nose is open until you hit the visor at the brow. Not a huge space, but some medieval armors have helmets where an arrow wouldn't even fit through.... or, you'd have to hit it JUST right to get it into the helmet.
Also, why in the HELL did you try to open up that armor with a tanto? If they served a purpose in Japanese warfare similar to what the dagger did in European warfare, you should have been seeing how long it takes to cut the cords on the armor to expose the throat, as a downed combatant would not worry about getting stabbed, but getting their throat sliced. I mean, it's hard to test on this front, because this would mean putting someone in the armor while you tried to hack the plate off and hopefully not cut their neck in the process, all while he's struggling to show how difficult it would be to actually get through with an accurate cut to the lacing.
Also - before someone mentions it, because I know the kind of people that watch these videos, samurai armor does not make you more agile than plate armor. It is a bit more heavy, so if you aren't properly conditioned, you'll probably get tired more easily wearing knight armor, but you have a pretty similar range of motion, and there are plenty of people on the internet that fully somersault, roll, and even cartwheel in full plate just fine. I'm not going to say they're _equivalent_, but I know if you're arguing this point, you obviously are discounting the range of motion you get with medieval armor.
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^here is a good example of what you get. You're not going to be able to reach around your back and touch between your shoulder blades or anything, but it's not like you're going to be "clumsy."
I will grant that medieval gauntlets may have an effect on your grip, more so than samurai armor, but at the cost of their hands being better protected, and giving them the ability to half-sword with a double edged blade. So, valid trade offs?
The point is these samaruais fought even when they had broken bone, ligaments, and bruses. There armor was served to be light and protect them from lethal cuts and if they get hit they can still fight.
Gotta love the heart shapes in the arrow. If you're gonna kill em, make sure they know you still love em :P
I dont know what kind of chainmail samurais use buth cuting medieval europian chain mail and even roman chain mail is inposible
It's not impossible.just hard to do.Japanese chain mail is usually a 1 to 6 and 1 to 8(not exactly sure which is more common) ratio unlike European which is usually a 1 to 4 ratio, making it more tedious and costly but slightly more protective
They used butted mail.
Butted mail makes it MUCH easier
+Cuzmonaut Suckmeov also makes it much easier to repair after a long battle.
+Darius 99
It's not riveted, and it's also a much looser weave than european. Much less metal used overall and rings don't overlap a lot.
I love the video. One important distinction I would make in your video is when you said Samurai primarily fought on foot. That wasn't true for a while. For a long time they were horseback archers before eventually adopting more weapons for usage in combat and becoming fighters on the ground. You implied this but it wasn't entirely clear so I just wanted to clear that up. Anyways thanks for the cool video.
thinks for the info if I upset you or anyone in your group soory. also I did some reading on the yumi bow it's like today's sinper rifle very effective in the right hands. it's nice to see how good medieval armors are and the work required to make both weapons and armor , also it's takes a lot of time to be trained how to use everything like the worriors 's back then. think you for such an awesome video keep them comeing.
+Gord Bear
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4:15 *WITHOUT HONOR!*
what do you mean samurai would not do that if some one was in a duel and a samurai was in a duel and there friend had a gun they would use it the only honor is to kill as many people as possiblie that is honor even if it was with a gun it just about how to kill some one the most brutal way and how to do it effectively
Literally watched this in my history class
That cartwheel at 4:20 was LIT!
THAT TIMING IS CONVENIENT...
What a beautiful piece of art you craft!!!
I'm definitely getting one... ; )
Thank you very much. We will be honored to craft your armor for you.
ramsay bolton is the narrator of this video
Ramsay liked his armors
I don't understand. Is this supposed to show how tough this armor is? Every hit horribly dents it and breaks it. Like what happened on the face armor. The fuck? Anytime I've seen European armor hit like this it doesn't do shit. i've even seen it tested while being worn.
+Daelkyr
Traditionally European armor was crafted with thicker steel because it was required to protect against a variety of weapons. Samurai used lighter armor. There are many different reasons for this, including terrain, fighting styles, body types, different needs, easy to maintain, alter and repair. Samurai wanted their armor to be balanced in all aspects.
It is important to know, just because European armor may not get dented when hit, doesn't mean the person inside is fully protected. In many instance the vibration from the strike would stun and wound the knight wearing the armor. Sometimes the gear protecting the knight could be their downfall.
Yeah, no armor will protect you from kinetic energy (i.e. knock back).
That very much depends on what kind of armours you compare (on both sides). E.G. Knyght Errant and Metatron had a collaboration and the weight difference between their armours and the European one was about 3kg heavier.
This is factually inaccurate. Japanese laminar armour was often closer in weight to 16th Century full-plate (20-25+ kilograms.) and often more than 10 kilograms heavier than many historical 15th Century sets. I also highly doubt parts like the breastplate were any thinner than 16 gauge (which is what you'll see again on later period sets.)
The reason Japanese armour was less durable was differences in design and metallurgy however the difference isn't significant enough for it to matter...no sword is going to cut through either, both are all but impervious to thrusts (you might penetrate Japanese lamniar PRIOR to Musket-proof with a warhammer/Bec de Corbin beak or spike but you'd need a good clean shot on a FIXED target to do so.) at some point armour just doesn't really need to be any more durable.
The Japanese armourers weren't facing the same weaponry or challenges that their European counterparts were and their armour was perfectly adequate for what was being thrown at them as armour historically has always been.
"In many instance the vibration from the strike would stun and wound the knight wearing the armor. " - This is also factually inaccurate and would in fact be a bigger issue with Japanese armour of the same period (however true for neither.) people significantly overrate the energy generated by historical blunt weapons...no you're not a train, you're a man swinging a steel rod. The gear protecting the 'knight' as you put it would only be their downfall if it was faulty (which if often could have been.) and was penetrated and dug into the person wearing it (if for example it were penetrated by an arrow.)
You're unfortunately perpetuating the same sort of myths and stereotyps that led people to believe Japanese armour was unprotective and incredibly Light designed entirely for mobility and not at all for protection (which is totally a good reason to wear armour?) There was an undeniable technological gap between those in Europe and Japan during the late medieval period, this gap was slowly bridged during the Renaissance.
Kinetic energy isn't knockback....knockback is actively a reaction a given body can display to mitigate the effects of kinetic energy being transferred to it...something that doesn't 'knockback' and that isn't durable enough to withstand the collision....breaks.
If people could 'knockback' every time they were face with a collision to an adequate level they would avoid the effects of BFT almost completely.