Why Even Bother Ranger Spear A Weapon Of Limitations

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  • let's review Ranger Spear from how it works to bugs and problems 🤓
    00:00 intro
    00:33 Spear skills in details
    04:49 bugs and design problems
    11:22 PvE Spear Not good
    13:53 Condition spear attempt
    20:02 What the spear is designed for
    22:16 outro
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ความคิดเห็น • 43

  • @petejp6189
    @petejp6189 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I just hope it to be some kind of Hybrid like Axe but nahh just full Power dps which we have plnety of choice already but we don't have something similar to Axe.

  • @96Caleb96
    @96Caleb96 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oh finally people bringing it up 😂 was so pointless using spear on any ranger build, mesmer is very fun though

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I heard a lot of ppl say mesmer and thief are good 😃

  • @Hairobi
    @Hairobi หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I already tested spear on all classes. My conclusion is: Definitely not buying patch. I only do wvw, so I'm not missing something big

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Honestly I felt the same but I'm all in with gw2 and I will still enjoy pve and housing 😂

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Also it is a beta so it might get much better 😶

    • @CarnaghSidhe
      @CarnaghSidhe หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaperRoll the spear on Thief is pretty good.

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@CarnaghSidhe ranger spear already drained my energy haven't looked much in other classes 😂

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@CarnaghSidhe I just tried it and I'm no thief but what is this mobility this is crazy 😂
      Glad they don't have it the whole fight

  • @workingandcommenting
    @workingandcommenting หลายเดือนก่อน

    RAnger spear need some fixes, like not getting revealed when using the skills (probably a bug), the skill 5 net and stealth not consuming the same charges (kinda asinine that it does), I dont like that the ambush gets a spore, would rather all damage be baked into the hit so not to mess with the stealth, the leap on 4 needs to be faster and longer range too (would rather it snap to target like the sword leaps). And of course, more damage across the board because rn it is very low

  • @Geronmy
    @Geronmy หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Overall spears just look pretty, and not all of them at that.

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is beta let's hope spears get better 😅

    • @user-xo2og8kv1o
      @user-xo2og8kv1o 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@PaperRoll they wont, they never did. all they do at this point is adjusting numbers. but that doesnt fix the weapon. rip ranger spear.

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@user-xo2og8kv1o I can't say for fact I was the reason (I can only hope though😂) but my video on untamed in beta blew up about 7k in like 2 days and anet fixed most of the complains I had about it and adjusted it more through patches later so they have listened before have hope or Luke me have copium 🤣

  • @FatAlz1988
    @FatAlz1988 หลายเดือนก่อน

    =o you sound arabic. fellow arab in game < 3

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน

      🇪🇬 yes Egyptian 🤗

  • @leledinn
    @leledinn หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ranger spear mechanics must be spread to overall thief mechanics. I mean that you use any skill from stealth you get reveal rebuff for several seconds. It would prevent ridiculous stealth spam. It eoukd be huge nerf to SA cancer.

    • @leledinn
      @leledinn หลายเดือนก่อน

      Actually, all stealth spamming class and builds must be revamped to use this mechanics. You stealthed, you used skill which landed on target, you got reveal debuff. So you can't stealth immediately after that, you have to wait reveal timeout l. MAYBE, MAYBE it would be good idea to link reveal debuff with blind debuff. If stealthed lands blindless on target, he lift reveal and can go invisible immediately.
      So only really skillful players may have long stealth uptime.

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Stealth is crazy strong but I think thief is the main problem as a class not stealth
      They have to much access to it with no cool down to weapon so non stopping burst and best mobility which make stealth even more of a problem with them

    • @leledinn
      @leledinn หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not all skills should add reveal debuff, but most powerfull and annoying. It is a matter of discussion actually. But the main idea is to prevent spamming by adding impossibility to immediate stealth again after revealing yourself.

    • @taylorgarrett793
      @taylorgarrett793 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@leledinn keep in mind they can also get player stealth by long bow 3 and the panther pet now
      plus the smokescale smoke feild as well
      so they actually do have good ways to get reliable stealth, probs why they made the reveal debuff on ranger

  • @Shiro_Kamui
    @Shiro_Kamui หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'll wait to see if we have something more useful in this new expansion because these spears aren't that good in wvw, maybe the best one would be for the warrior.

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm sure they will fix it I hope they fix it enough 😆

    • @marshal8358
      @marshal8358 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol warrior is by far the worst. Projectile auto, projectile 4, 5 can be walked away and not hit, 2 has tiny constant aoe which can be sidestepped and 3 is useless. Zerker burst projectile and core f1 roots you

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@marshal8358 I hope all the feed back they get from the beta be helpful enough and fix the problems especially any design ones
      We know bugs and unintentional problems will be fixed but they could always stick to a design we hate 😔

    • @marshal8358
      @marshal8358 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @PaperRoll that's me and many warrior mains with bladesworn. And look at that heap of trash. Still breathing. But it got nerfed so it's unplayable lol.

  • @nirsamra9016
    @nirsamra9016 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To be honest ranger spear is horrible not just the dmg low , all skills not synchronised it’s just like look you can melee and range at the same weapon and lets throw on it some stealth

  • @HardcoreCasualGW2
    @HardcoreCasualGW2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Yeah, I was really not impressed with ranger spear. The animations are comically awful. Seriously, what is up with that wolf leap and the web attack? Yowch! The stealth skill feels bad and it places constraints on the rest of the skillset that I think are problematic. Basically, you have to justify giving up the 5 skill for a non-damaging skill that effectively adds a 0.5s precast to your damaging skills. Then there's the issue that either your baseline attacks are extremely weak and your stealth skills are powerful, or the baseline attacks stand on their own and the stealth is just a bit of a bonus rather than a critical mechanic. They could add utility to the stealth attacks, but if it isn't contributing damage this is never going to payoff in PvE. As it stands, they're too similar to the baseline attacks with only the 2 skill giving a proper buff to the base attack. And then we have the problem of being forced to choose between damage and CC when other ranger weapons have no such limitation.
    This is just a mess of a weapon. I don't know what they're going to do with it.

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน

      great explanation 👌
      If I remember correctly When they gave us hammer it wasn't good at the beta and was slow with low damage if want the utility side but they fixed it a lit on multiple patches not just the release
      All that because both untamed and his weapon were designed for pvp they made the same mistake again 😂

    • @HardcoreCasualGW2
      @HardcoreCasualGW2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PaperRoll I know it won't happen, but I was kinda hoping they'd get rid of the stealth and make all the skills ranged/melee conditional like the AA with some engage/disengage on flip skills to facilitate flow.

  • @nirsamra9016
    @nirsamra9016 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I completely agree with pve it’s not useful
    There’s no way as it’s stay this way any one will take it over mace mace

  • @ryuzakikazeshini4012
    @ryuzakikazeshini4012 หลายเดือนก่อน

    for pve, thief spear is broken af...it's trash for most other classes

  • @tonyR2D
    @tonyR2D หลายเดือนก่อน

    Quite disappointed. The leap skill is ridiculously short. I kept trying to stealth + 2 and stealth +4 cause I thought they were straight forward higher damage until I read more carefully. I could only make it work on a power untamed, but it could have worked better with any other weapon. And with a power druid build, but the same, I don't know the spear had any relevance on the success. I hope big changes come to it.

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It is best with power untamed then beast then druid us the least and it is still better stealth but lower cc than hammer lower mobility and def than GS you get stealth and the rang hits

  • @ThePhuzz
    @ThePhuzz หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ranger spear is depressingly dogshit.

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It seems many ppl did not like this one 😅
      I like the spirit of stealth and mobility and but they made it soooo limited and not good at its job
      Maybe it is so when they buff it we be happy mental games 😈😂

  • @SuperPalinek
    @SuperPalinek หลายเดือนก่อน

    the spear rly is underwhelming, it feels like anet fails to deliver anything interesting for rangers at all ... even untamed as a whole felt like they had no idea what to do with the class.. maces were the only good thing after long time and even there they added only 1 sec of stability but on offhand where you would run warhorn anyway ... i dont think any of the devs atually play ranger, or care for the class at all

    • @benjaminmichaels1759
      @benjaminmichaels1759 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maces are borderline broken. The only new weapon to be included in a trait line btw.

  • @dallassukerkin6878
    @dallassukerkin6878 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Explain why it is that the people who *should* have the best idea for how to make things for the game, the developers, are so effing clueless?

  • @jam7661
    @jam7661 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    none of the spears look interesting to me :(

    • @PaperRoll
      @PaperRoll  หลายเดือนก่อน

      It is only beta be hopeful 😅✌