Sorry i was put off the leopard when they put IkIA style woodwork in & the biggest sin was Saildrive instead of a propshaft which meant weight went more to the rear. Very impressed allthough somewhat old fashioned was the ATARES 44, they have props with engine in the centre & low , the down kitchen and also comes with most things your buying extra for your leopard. Plus at the end of all the equasion they hold their prices better than leopards. Interesting to hear your views on Atares ?
Not sure what you want us to say? It seems you have made your choice and that is what is important :-) every person has a certain preference and that is what made us unique. For me it was the look. Nothing technical, well the speed was koowl. But between the big three production boats?...all of them are good, it is a matter of how the boat fits your style ;-) and if Atares is your style, then I am all for it! You would be much more comfy with what your gut feeling is telling you to be.
@@SailingSisu omg truly! And wow how lucky for you! I must say it is some if not the most beautiful I’ve seen in a Cat. I love the light wood so much and the rounded edges. 😍
Thanks guyz for quick response i be here always for you. If you want to dropby in southeast asia. Get me a buzz someday.. Stay healthy and enjoy life to fullest..
I like to know if the knysna is silent...sounding like going on old house floor. Master cabin is okey but an utility room for workshop...small is okey but still with powe sockets...do they customize for changes ? Follow you'r videos leopard 45... Could be nice if you did costplan for owning 5 years so people se what it cost owning 40-60 footers... Sweden..sailorbear 64. :)
@@SailingSisu inkluding the sundowners offcorse :) Prefering a cold beer as a relaxing substanse...but somtimes a cinnamon wiskey is health....like you'r lifestyle. I was a.merchant mariner ...allways hitting the storms :) take care out there brother. Seaberar :)
Hi guyz.. Been following you since then.. Nice vids. Love it. Keep me updated. Btw. I been eyeing for a catamaran.. May i ask? Why choose leopard 45? Why not a bigger one.? Or lagoon 620 maybe? Whats with 45 footer? Lets set aside the price.. Whats with the 45 range.. ? Thanks again.. Keep sailing and always on safe mode.
Thank you, Marvin for your support since then! We discuss the length I think in the previous episode? but in short, below 40 the cats don't surf that quickly on the big swells but rather just get lifted up. The bigger the cat the faster and longer it will surf, which gives you up to 5kts faster while surfing, because it want to keep up with the wave speed. However, we have been on the L50 and it is a gorgeous boat with plenty of space and yeah, many koowl features...but, it is big. Even with the L45, we need to find spots where we can get hauled out and it is not many, also much more expensive. The same goes for marinas, we figured that we will do most of the time anchoring, which takes this problem away, but if you do want to go into a marina, then we found some marinas way to small for our L45, but for example, Setur Netsel Marina in Marmaris, Turkey, you would be pressed for space even though they have way bigger boats in there, they just cramp a sh** load of boats in there! the size to handle is not really the issue, which many calim it to be. Two people would easily be able to handle the L50 at sea, but to catch it in marinas while on a windy day mat proof to be a challenge for many mariners, they just do not know how to catch and hold a big boat. Hope this is a few pointers? Thank you for watching!
to clarify on the haul out, it is not the tonnage, it is the beam....for example, our crane in South Africa was 8m and our beam 7.6m, but it could lift 800t
Yes, lovely and big. Also loved the idea of helm being part of aft cockpit. But we are more comfortable with 45ft. Although, must confess... The Leopard 50 may swing us!
I just love the St Francis 50. I like the way it is setup with protected cockpit helm position, inside forward facing command center :-) where on can drive the boat as well as do office work and just look up now and then. I love how the manufacturer is very flexible to the wishes and needs of the buyer so that it can be configured pretty much exactly how you want it. I looked on some tracker sites for StF 50 cats and followed some of the boats. The manufacturer is right, very very seldom does a St Francis 50 go under 200 nautical miles on a 24h period. That is good too.
Yes, those big boats goes pretty far in 24 hours. I remember when we were crossing on a Leopard 39, the Leopard 46 were doing on average 70nm per day more just because it can surf longer and it has that huge sail plan. We did "race" a StF 43 from St Helena on the 1st of January 2006 and the our L39 gave the StF a head start of almost 6 hours, but still overtook the 43 within 15 hours. but, yes, that StF43 was much more beautiful finished with awesome woodwork and the most modern lighting (for 2006). It had a much more homy feeling than the L43. The StF are awesome boats and they do have that final personal touch, that is for sure! talking about speed, have you seen this clip? th-cam.com/video/ML-z-xs-9f0/w-d-xo.html
Vera Waage thank you for your comments and likes, greatly appreciated. We listened to our viewers, so you will find a vast improvement from eps 9 onwards. Hope you like 😉
baie dankie! Jy is heeltemal reg, Pierre, gelukkig het ek baie tyd gehad om te werk en gelukkig het ek n werk gehad :-) daar is daai gesegte "the more I practice, the luckier I get" Was maar harde werk waar ek laat aande gewerk het terwyl my vriende gaan party het, of waar mense lekker lang naweek gaan safari hou en ek moes sit en werk. dit was 36 jaar van 7 dae n week, 18 ure n dag. Time to balance my life!
Hey Guys: we loved the Knysna 45 footer ( I think ) but it was out of our budget. We sailed one in Annapolis. Hope your purchase goes smoothly. That has been the biggest adventure for us so far.
Guy, can you please remove the background persistent music from the videos? It's really distracting and annoying when trying to concentrate on what you are doing and saying, thank you. 😀
Good to see some footage of the boat show, can not wait for next one
Thank you for the positive comment! Working hard on the next episode :-)
Sorry i was put off the leopard when they put IkIA style woodwork in & the biggest sin was Saildrive instead of a propshaft which meant weight went more to the rear. Very impressed allthough somewhat old fashioned was the ATARES 44, they have props with engine in the centre & low , the down kitchen and also comes with most things your buying extra for your leopard. Plus at the end of all the equasion they hold their prices better than leopards. Interesting to hear your views on Atares ?
Not sure what you want us to say? It seems you have made your choice and that is what is important :-) every person has a certain preference and that is what made us unique. For me it was the look. Nothing technical, well the speed was koowl. But between the big three production boats?...all of them are good, it is a matter of how the boat fits your style ;-) and if Atares is your style, then I am all for it! You would be much more comfy with what your gut feeling is telling you to be.
Keep safe
Thanx, Marvin!
That woodwork though
O absolutely stunning!! I know the owners of Knysna personally and their craftsmanship and attention to detail is impeccable 👌
@@SailingSisu omg truly! And wow how lucky for you! I must say it is some if not the most beautiful I’ve seen in a Cat. I love the light wood so much and the rounded edges. 😍
Thanks guyz for quick response i be here always for you. If you want to dropby in southeast asia. Get me a buzz someday.. Stay healthy and enjoy life to fullest..
Thank you, Marvin! We are on our way, it may take a while though :-)
nice one
thank you and thanx for watching!
I like to know if the knysna is silent...sounding like going on old house floor.
Master cabin is okey but an utility room for workshop...small is okey but still with powe sockets...do they customize for changes ?
Follow you'r videos leopard 45...
Could be nice if you did costplan for owning 5 years so people se what it cost owning 40-60 footers...
Sweden..sailorbear 64. :)
Ah...the costs...I think our rum budget over shadows all the other costs!
@@SailingSisu inkluding the sundowners offcorse :)
Prefering a cold beer as a relaxing substanse...but somtimes a cinnamon wiskey is health....like you'r lifestyle.
I was a.merchant mariner ...allways hitting the storms :) take care out there brother.
Seaberar :)
That varnish maintenance though...
a lot of varnish :-D
Hi guyz.. Been following you since then.. Nice vids. Love it. Keep me updated. Btw. I been eyeing for a catamaran.. May i ask? Why choose leopard 45? Why not a bigger one.? Or lagoon 620 maybe? Whats with 45 footer? Lets set aside the price.. Whats with the 45 range.. ? Thanks again.. Keep sailing and always on safe mode.
Thank you, Marvin for your support since then! We discuss the length I think in the previous episode? but in short, below 40 the cats don't surf that quickly on the big swells but rather just get lifted up. The bigger the cat the faster and longer it will surf, which gives you up to 5kts faster while surfing, because it want to keep up with the wave speed. However, we have been on the L50 and it is a gorgeous boat with plenty of space and yeah, many koowl features...but, it is big. Even with the L45, we need to find spots where we can get hauled out and it is not many, also much more expensive. The same goes for marinas, we figured that we will do most of the time anchoring, which takes this problem away, but if you do want to go into a marina, then we found some marinas way to small for our L45, but for example, Setur Netsel Marina in Marmaris, Turkey, you would be pressed for space even though they have way bigger boats in there, they just cramp a sh** load of boats in there! the size to handle is not really the issue, which many calim it to be. Two people would easily be able to handle the L50 at sea, but to catch it in marinas while on a windy day mat proof to be a challenge for many mariners, they just do not know how to catch and hold a big boat. Hope this is a few pointers? Thank you for watching!
to clarify on the haul out, it is not the tonnage, it is the beam....for example, our crane in South Africa was 8m and our beam 7.6m, but it could lift 800t
Wow.. Awesome!! Loud and clear guyz.. You just enlighten me.. Very big help. Im gettin SY nxt year.... Still in Turkey?
@@marvinlacson132 yes, still in Turkey...not many places to go at the moment :-(
The Knysna was stunning. Looks much better quality than the Leopard. How much is the Knysna?
The 500 is double of the Leopard 45. But yes, it is all hand made with care. They produce only 4 or 5 boats a year.
Did you look at the St Francis 50 Catamaran? Also South African boat.
Yes, lovely and big. Also loved the idea of helm being part of aft cockpit. But we are more comfortable with 45ft. Although, must confess... The Leopard 50 may swing us!
I just love the St Francis 50. I like the way it is setup with protected cockpit helm position, inside forward facing command center :-) where on can drive the boat as well as do office work and just look up now and then. I love how the manufacturer is very flexible to the wishes and needs of the buyer so that it can be configured pretty much exactly how you want it.
I looked on some tracker sites for StF 50 cats and followed some of the boats. The manufacturer is right, very very seldom does a St Francis 50 go under 200 nautical miles on a 24h period. That is good too.
Yes, those big boats goes pretty far in 24 hours. I remember when we were crossing on a Leopard 39, the Leopard 46 were doing on average 70nm per day more just because it can surf longer and it has that huge sail plan. We did "race" a StF 43 from St Helena on the 1st of January 2006 and the our L39 gave the StF a head start of almost 6 hours, but still overtook the 43 within 15 hours. but, yes, that StF43 was much more beautiful finished with awesome woodwork and the most modern lighting (for 2006). It had a much more homy feeling than the L43. The StF are awesome boats and they do have that final personal touch, that is for sure! talking about speed, have you seen this clip? th-cam.com/video/ML-z-xs-9f0/w-d-xo.html
Clicked like in spite of the background music....
Vera Waage thank you for your comments and likes, greatly appreciated. We listened to our viewers, so you will find a vast improvement from eps 9 onwards. Hope you like 😉
I noticed a few times your headroom could be a big problem. How tall are you for reference?
Joe, thanks for the comment. I am 1.96m... I think it is 6'5"?
Sailing Sisu Thought so. Same here.
ek kyk uit om my eie skippie te koop.en hulle is baie lucky om te koop van nuut
baie dankie! Jy is heeltemal reg, Pierre, gelukkig het ek baie tyd gehad om te werk en gelukkig het ek n werk gehad :-) daar is daai gesegte "the more I practice, the luckier I get" Was maar harde werk waar ek laat aande gewerk het terwyl my vriende gaan party het, of waar mense lekker lang naweek gaan safari hou en ek moes sit en werk. dit was 36 jaar van 7 dae n week, 18 ure n dag. Time to balance my life!
Hey Guys: we loved the Knysna 45 footer ( I think ) but it was out of our budget. We sailed one in Annapolis. Hope your purchase goes smoothly. That has been the biggest adventure for us so far.
Thanx! Hope to see you on the water!
Hooks and Hairspray hope to see you on the water!
Guy, can you please remove the background persistent music from the videos? It's really distracting and annoying when trying to concentrate on what you are doing and saying, thank you. 😀
Lol, seems like a theme for the video comments :-) we were still learning and hopefully fixed it in episode 9