Oats, Wheat or Rye: Which Should You Plant in your Deer Food Plots?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ค. 2021
- NDA’s Director of Conservation, Kip Adams of Pennsylvania, talks about the cereal grains - oats, wheat and rye - and how to choose which is best for your fall deer food plots. He also covers some of the advantages of cereal grain food plots that don’t appear until spring.
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Great video
That’s impressive
Makes sense
I couldn't agree more. The benefit with wheat is that each single wheat seed splits @ the stem so over an acre that's alot of split plants. Everyone has a different situation so if u want to eliminate weeds in a natural & pro-active way then both rye or Buckwheat would be a good choice. If u have sandy soil better yet. However it's beneficial to have something green in the spring. It makes sense to have perennial clover plots & winter wheat/rye early in the spring growing.
One thing about that plot in the video is all the moisture being trapped in the soil once that rye decomposes & breaks down in the soil which in hand offers alot of micro-nutrients for future crops planted.
Here in Southwest Missouri- I'm prepping some ground for a plot. Moving forward, I'm thinking I'll plant BWheat mid-June, then mow & rake it mid-August. At that point, my plan is to broadcast and aerate oats, ladino clover, and cereal rye into what I'm hoping becomes a real "honey-hole". I would appreciate your thoughts regarding my plan!!!
I plant both every year and leave it stand for spring greenup for deer and turkey.
I plant oats, wheat and rye grain.
Thank you for the video! In your experience, what do you do with that standing rye the following late summer/early fall?
You can leave it standing to serve as cover and as bugging areas for turkeys. Eventually it becomes organic material to build the soil for the next fall's crop. Simply plant your new crop into the dead standing rye, or mow it and leave it on the surface and plant with a no-till method.
What would you use to enhance the growth of this plot staring to establish? I'm in north Florida.
What do you do with that plot when it comes time to replant a fall food plot? Do you just drill in over the pre-existing stand you have? Also seeding rate/acre? Thanks so much, Kip. Patrick Wolf, NW Wisconsin
Apparently he doesn't like to reply to his viewers
What types of rye and wheat don’t have the hairs on the seed head?
A mix of all three
Do you add some oats for attraction? They left my pure stand of rye grain alone last Fall in central WI. Going to add some oats this yr.
@Will Smith Yes. I've got numerous brassica plots with rye/wheat/oats in bald spots. I did some food plot trails with rye/wheat/oats and little brassica. Good luck.
Im located in eastern ohio, can i mix oats and wheat together?
Is there an awnless winter Rye?
That's what I'm wondering too, and who would sell it?
Rye produces a ton of bio mass.
Now that the rye, wheat is mature, now what. When will you till plot under and what will you plant next?
agree, I would love to hear the next steps to prepare for fall again
@@MegaBraunie I let mine grow until this time of year. I broadcast my next plot into the standing rye, roll it and spray it dead.
You spray it, pack it and plant right into it. Ultimate no till food plot.
Yesterday I noticed deer were digging through the snow to eat my winter Rye.
will the winter rye seed head once mature in the summer re grow again if left alone
No, not enough to consider rye a "reseeding" crop. Unfortunately, the often-confused "ryegrass" will reseed itself easily, which is why it is problematic and you don't want to plant it.
@@DeerAssociation Not sure what rye you are talking about but cereal rye will most certainly reseed and can be hard to terminate. If you are wanting a crop that can be easily terminated, you should stick with wheat and stay away from rye/triticale.
Cereal rye......... will reseed itself........ Done that this summer. Worked great ! Leave it alone after it seeds out until early September. Then go in and bush hog it ........or just cut it and leave it alone. It will come back great ! Its important though to knock it down to allow it to have seed to soil contact.
What do you do with these plants when replanting for this fall?
If you're doing a summer plot, seed into the standing rye, then roll it/ culitipack it down, and spray it with glyphosate. If you're not doing a summer plot and you want to do no till... I'm not exactly sure. I guess just let it go until late summer, then do the same thing. Seed into it, culitipack, then kill it. Or just till it under in late summer if you can till.
@@davidmartin8823 i would culitipack it , it will allow the moisture to hold and cover the fall plot . if i were doing a summer plot ( which i personally think should be buckwheat because it also provides cover, but also blocks out the weeds . come july 20th spread my seed in the standing buckwheat , plant that winter rye again and cultipack right over top of the seed. repeat the cycle every year for 4 years. May of the fourth year do some roundup 2 weeks before planting and the soil should be ready for soy beans. side note be sure to over spray round up and make sure to surround the soy beans with buckwheat so weeds dont try to get into the beans , also this will provide daytime cover and bedding for the deer . good luck gents
What about barley
We plant clay cow peas deer love them and it's good far them plus you building the soil up to plant the fall crop on
The video while informative, doesn't provide the seed brand name or source.
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Go to any co-op or feed store and tell them you want cereal rye.
You lost me Kip, when you said “bucks are never territorial” . Help me with this statement. On my property, my bucks tolerate each other from winter to about the 2nd or 3rd week after shedding velvet. At that point my older bucks do not tolerate other peer bucks. They let younger or subordinates hang around to a degree. Eventually they digress as the rut winds down. I’m not disagreeing, but it’s an observation I’ve made over the years of camera, video and personal observation. Maybe your meaning absolute Territorialism. Please elaborate. Thank you.
I understand where you are coming from. My interpretation of Kip is leaning more towards the area or property that the doe’s are territorial over (which is why they spread out). I think bucks home ranges cross over each other without issue, endless they are the dominant buck or fighting over a doe in heat, but are typically not territorial over a given area. In general I believe “Never” can be a misused word in whitetail biology/behavior.
Michael, while bucks (and does as well) may protect a particular food source, a doe in estrus, or even their personal space, they aren't territorial in the sense of running bucks out of their overall home range or even their core areas. We have a great article on our website that dives into the science behind this at www.deerassociation.com/whitetail-bucks-not-territorial/. Hope that helps.
@@DeerAssociation . Thanks
@@DeerAssociation very good article. That is what I have observed on my property through the years. It’s when the core areas overlap and they have a “close” physical encounter where there is a problem, and it usually is over when one buck keeps his distance. Good stuff. Thank you.
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I have to make a comment about all food plots and I don’t care who’s adding or I don’t care who is making a video about it but your brag about how well everything looks so four or 5 feet tall in rye well first off a lot of people don’t have a lot of money And a lot of people can’t afford to throw in fertilizer or even have a tractor just a ATV and a spring tooth. Do you know people that are trying to teach people how to do their food plots need to lower themselves way the hell down so your actual bow hunter or rifle Hunter can just go out there and make a food plot and boom you’re done. I like watching deer hunting videos but they’re hunting acres of acres of hundreds of acres and they always wait for that big buck that ain’t normal hunting.