I think what so wrong with surgery today is that everyone is getting the EXACT same body. Everyone is wearing the EXACT make up routine, lace frontal, clothes. So their whole look is based on what society said is right. That’s not self love. That’s self hate
Introvert Outside can’t speak for all men but I don’t like a specific body type. I think a nice body can come in a huge variety of ways and once I know someone has had cosmetic surgery I feel like there are underlying insecurities there that need to be reckoned with.
@Introvert Outside 'tru, but mainly cos it seems like men all want the same body type in a woman' But I thought girls were doing these procedures for themselves, not for men?
We need more of a spotlight on self care and wellbeing in the mainstream media instead of so much focus on outer beauty. The issue is that young women are consistently being fed images of 'perfect' women, and think that achieving a certain look and getting a certain amount of attention will lead to happiness. Taking care of your outer beauty is great, but once you get to a place where you can say that you really love yourself and generate confidence from within, it's way more gratifying in so many ways. Also, for many, fixing what's wrong inside is more challenging than that quick outer fix, and usually comes with age as we find ourselves.
Think Poet's point about the context of 'self-love' on the internet, a place full of vice and disingenuous thought/expression is really bang on, well said!
I completely agree that the ‘Instagram era’ has contributed heavily to modern day beauty standards and has led to a rise in the number of people partaking in cosmetic surgery, in order to achieve the standard of ‘beauty’ perpetuated to them by their screens. In an ideal world, people would accept their natural state and be confident within themselves, all of which is a part of ones journey to self love. However, unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world, and in the 21st century we have seen a rise in the number of image related mental health issues. Can we not argue that surgery fulfils it’s purpose as it meets the demands of an image obsessed population. If something about your appearance is affecting other aspects of your life, e.g. you guys mentioned how a mans sexual performance can be hindered by something such as hair loss, I correlated this to perhaps the man feeling less confident and insecure. Surely having the option to change what you are concerned about and in turn enhance other aspects of your life, is not entirely a bad thing. I appreciate that it’s not just as simple as ‘fixing’ something your insecure about, but if this is going to help someone on their journey to self love, should we be condemning surgery?
Agreed! If an individual feels that having cosmetic surgery will genuinely have a positive impact on other aspects of their life e.g. self confidence and the decision is not based wholly on image or other peoples perception of them, then I can appreciate their reasoning. However, simply getting work done in an attempt to ‘keep up with the Joneses’, will only lead to temporary self security as trends that formulate modern day standards and definitions of beauty are constantly evolving. Which means that striving for the so called socially constructed version of ‘perfection’ is effectively a game that can’t be won.
Self love is complex. It is not just about looks. It is the mindset that in some cases yes reflects their appearance but why it is complex is because in some cases some may not have knowledge of certain things. Also self love is what your parents should be promoting not no alleged Social Media "Influencer"
Instagram is a curse on society I swear. You know when you're hanging out with someone but they just want to show you someone's Insta posts instead of actually doing anything worthwhile? The get pushed out of the circle quickly
Kinda feel sorry for these insta girls who've got nothing to offer except their bodies When they get into their 30s and 40s their looks are gonna decline rapidly and so will the validation they receive Cant escape the wall
Self love has the term SELF in it for a reason. Self is not only what we were born with. It is what you have built over the years you have been alive. A natural can promote self love, and people who want to love their natural will stan her. And if a modified wants to promote self love, she can too, and the person she has built herself into will inspire another. What I do not understand is, you men, as men, are sitting around here trying to tell women what to do and what to not, how you like it and how you don't, what you find attractive and what you don't, but honest to God, this is a genuine question, did we ever ask?
@@RM_BURNER I agree with your take to a certain extent, but the very core of self love is to love oneself first, no? The core idea is to feel comfortable in your own skin. And if you don't feel beautiful in what you already have, and you have the choice of becoming what you want, then you are most likely to take that chance and become it. The very men who speak about not liking plastic surgery and societal depictions of "beautiful" tend to be the same men who chase after them. The hypocrisy is that these men also put their own bodies through extreme diets and gym to look buff and more attractive to women, but since that is "natural", there is no need calling it out as an insecurity.
Isn't Poet 33/34? I remember a previous video he stated he was 33. This is why I do not feel bad for him getting fired over those tweets. He was a big man that should have known better.
Fr tho wrong people promoting self love like not inner-standing what love really is because when you deep it love is not about reciprocation... shameless plug here if you really want to know what love is and how to love...etc subscribe to our channel right now. (We will do videos on this later this week)
I'm confused why Poet is talking with bare energy? If you don't like seeing that unfollow and move on. Other people presumably do like to see it that's why they do it. Making such a big deal about YOU not liking it as if your opinion is relevant?
True Self love can be found in the constructive critiques, commitment to self improvement/self mastery and the positive reinforcements we give oneself!! Not in the delusion that manifests today... You are not promoting self love by prancing about in your undies online, with half ya ass out talm' bout some stretch marks we did not even notice!! Self love is about empowerment, and social media plays no role in this EVER!! Your mirror is where the work is done, in your mind is where its at!! Another example; If you are obese, out of shape or simply have excess fat, self love is not deluding yourself that society is the problem and that people need to stop "Fat shaming" which is not a thing but rather educating ( empowering ) yourself on basic laws of human biology, some of which are as follows.... Eating in a Caloric deficit ( gym or no gym ) = weight loss, Eating in a caloric surplus + a sedentary lifestyle = Obesity, period!! Not making excuses, Taking learned information and applying it, setting goals and attaining them, Taking responsibility is self love.... Those who use Social Media ( Myself included, albeit not for an entire year now ) Are ALL by default seeking validation of some sort, this is directly counter-intuitive to the ideals of self love.
I think the first thing women think is is he not attracted to me? am I ugly? all the insecurities begin to come out which more times is not even the case it just happens sometimes
People having surgery to enhance their bodies clearly was not guided by their parents or guardians on how their body works. Think about it once you hit purberty did your parents or guadians or school teachers guide you on how to deal with the changes your body will be going through?
Maybe us as men should stop gassing up these girls. I followed some pornstar who was stunning, absolutely nasty attitude, cussing out guys argumentative, conceited just an ugly person, she began to look really ugly in the physical to me, yet guys still telling her she looks beautiful, good morning beautiful and all sorts of ear service to gas her, one time she got rude to me I shut her down. Need to stop gassing these insta chicks, were respecting women based on how good they look
@00:55 “I’m in my late 20s, early 30s”. What utter bull! Who says that? You are damn near your mid-30s still rolling around with a juvenile mind. After you got called out last episode for falsely pretending you were bare young in 2012, 2017 and 2018! Of course, you don’t want your real age being confirmed smh.
I can’t stand self righteous people that preach self love. Beauty standards for men doesn’t even COMPARE to the standards for women. How a woman LOOKS can change where she ends up in life. Its not as black and white as you’re all making it to be. In saying that, I’m all for self love and being your authentic self, but the men and women that preach self love on social media are the same ones with coloured contacts, Euro-Asian hair weaves, Gucci this, prada that - imitating their fav celebrities, mad filters etc and on top of that, they’re usually the most judgemental people ever. If a girl isn’t dressed to the nines or doesn’t care about her hair being untidy, they’ll mistreat her. It doesn’t matter what you do, people will have something to say. I’m not against plastic surgery, so long as you can face the consequences (both positive and negative) of your actions. Plastic surgery has improved the lives of people - I think it’s ignorant to ignore that fact especially if you were bullied for having big ears or a big nose for example ESPECIALLY as a woman.
Who's the dude who talks the loudest, talks over everyone, and thinks his point of view is the most important. Who's that guy? I wanted to here the hosts views many times and the loud guy just kept interjecting. He seems like one of the secure, insecure folks.
Poet needs to learn how to communicate with others in discussions. When he’s expressing his opinion, it feels overwhelming because he’s too enthusiastic(which is always). Conversations with him, make the other members of the pod cast have to fight to also add their opinion. Learn from Dan poet!
The whole talk at the beginning is just a reflection of how women think. They crave attention and validation. They know they will get it so that is why they do it. Can't really knock them for it.
I think what so wrong with surgery today is that everyone is getting the EXACT same body. Everyone is wearing the EXACT make up routine, lace frontal, clothes. So their whole look is based on what society said is right. That’s not self love. That’s self hate
kufo oriji let em know
Introvert Outside can’t speak for all men but I don’t like a specific body type. I think a nice body can come in a huge variety of ways and once I know someone has had cosmetic surgery I feel like there are underlying insecurities there that need to be reckoned with.
It’s just social engineering 101
@Introvert Outside 'tru, but mainly cos it seems like men all want the same body type in a woman'
But I thought girls were doing these procedures for themselves, not for men?
aint that always how its been?
A phat spliff and Chuckie's debates constitute a great Sunday at home
Chris Thompson say it again cuz!
i bet
Dan's in his head is like, "Poet,theres bare space on your side of the couch bro"
😂🤣
Malcolm Malema 😂😭😩😂👌🏾
Can we please give Calum a mic too - what he even look like?
Chuckie doing the pout is a meme 😭
Just when I was about to wash some dishes, you come on! Perfect 👌🏾
Bernadette A same girl 😂
Go wash your dishes man
Everyone hates on poet but i like it when he's in the podcast love his energy 👍👍
We need more of a spotlight on self care and wellbeing in the mainstream media instead of so much focus on outer beauty. The issue is that young women are consistently being fed images of 'perfect' women, and think that achieving a certain look and getting a certain amount of attention will lead to happiness. Taking care of your outer beauty is great, but once you get to a place where you can say that you really love yourself and generate confidence from within, it's way more gratifying in so many ways. Also, for many, fixing what's wrong inside is more challenging than that quick outer fix, and usually comes with age as we find ourselves.
"I don't even like breast implants, anyway" That was so random hahaha
Guess he was just throwing a disclaimer out there 🤷🏿♂️
Think Poet's point about the context of 'self-love' on the internet, a place full of vice and disingenuous thought/expression is really bang on, well said!
So appreciate men talking about mental health 💕
Janey Imaani - Emotional Awareness This
The Story and Her yep
When Dan said “bare shoulders shrugs” I screamed LOOOOOOOOOOL.. if you know, you know 😭😭😭😭
I love funny poet as opposed to angry poet
Dan's laugh though 😂😂
Everytime Poet says something, he soound like my mum giving me a lecture. Calm down bro
He sounds worse than that
Muzi Ncube never knew poet to be like this 😂
He's a parent now goes with trying to be a good one.
These people are literally having mandem-type chat. Maybe you should watch another channel if someone speaking passionately rattles you this much.
Ma nigga speaking some mf FACTS tho, if he reminds you of your mom it’s because it’s not the shit you want, it’s the shit you need
Self love and confidence is calm, but people can get cocky real quick
I completely agree that the ‘Instagram era’ has contributed heavily to modern day beauty standards and has led to a rise in the number of people partaking in cosmetic surgery, in order to achieve the standard of ‘beauty’ perpetuated to them by their screens. In an ideal world, people would accept their natural state and be confident within themselves, all of which is a part of ones journey to self love. However, unfortunately we don’t live in an ideal world, and in the 21st century we have seen a rise in the number of image related mental health issues. Can we not argue that surgery fulfils it’s purpose as it meets the demands of an image obsessed population. If something about your appearance is affecting other aspects of your life, e.g. you guys mentioned how a mans sexual performance can be hindered by something such as hair loss, I correlated this to perhaps the man feeling less confident and insecure. Surely having the option to change what you are concerned about and in turn enhance other aspects of your life, is not entirely a bad thing. I appreciate that it’s not just as simple as ‘fixing’ something your insecure about, but if this is going to help someone on their journey to self love, should we be condemning surgery?
Agreed! If an individual feels that having cosmetic surgery will genuinely have a positive impact on other aspects of their life e.g. self confidence and the decision is not based wholly on image or other peoples perception of them, then I can appreciate their reasoning. However, simply getting work done in an attempt to ‘keep up with the Joneses’, will only lead to temporary self security as trends that formulate modern day standards and definitions of beauty are constantly evolving. Which means that striving for the so called socially constructed version of ‘perfection’ is effectively a game that can’t be won.
Honestly, from 30 mins on it was one of the best episodes, doesn't feel like a podcast just a bunch of guys chatting, greatest thing
man said 'Filipo Inzaghi you was offside' LOOOOL savage dan is jokes
Poet is an absolute must for this Pod. Very insightful and reflective. Just needs to manage his airtime to also absorb wisdom. Another gr8 one!
I love these guys. They give the real talk
One Of The Funniest Episodes... LOL! Callum Those Editing Skills! HAHAHAHAHA!!!
Poet speaking that realnessssss for the first half of this episode you know!!!
& pls no more Angry Poet, Funny Poet is lit!
Man said I'm not going turkey for a hairline😂 legend
He aint lying thou. I know few guys who got their hairline done in Turkey. Its not just women who get shit done anymore LMAO. 😂🤣
51.38: the mind is the most important thing you own!!! WORD
🤣🤣🤣🤣... I fell oooout when chuckie did the Instagram pose face.. it’s facts💯
39:46 chuckie morphed into soldier boy..”THIIIRD NUUT”...🤣🤣
One of the best podcasts so far
With Poet continually dropping knowledge gems throughout...
Poet is spot on at the start! This is exactly how I feel about these profiles
Big up man like Poet shouting out my home country in the video. Shout out Zimbabwe
Chuckie's Pout!!!
Love these podcasts, 💪💯 Chuckie keep doing your thing bro , keep the fire up and everyone that on the podcast 💯💪
30.55: Vulnerability given, but if not reciprocated. We take it back
Self love is complex. It is not just about looks. It is the mindset that in some cases yes reflects their appearance but why it is complex is because in some cases some may not have knowledge of certain things. Also self love is what your parents should be promoting not no alleged Social Media "Influencer"
11:58 poet finished me😂😂😂😂💀😭
Lads ye are so enlightened, We just enjoy your content, please keep that up 💖
Instagram is a curse on society I swear. You know when you're hanging out with someone but they just want to show you someone's Insta posts instead of actually doing anything worthwhile? The get pushed out of the circle quickly
Poet was ridiculously on point this episode.
These close ups are jokes keep doing them please.
Just in time for my Lazy Sunday🙅🏾♀️
That mcd's comparison to the text message 😂😂too real una
Why is everyone hating on poet I love his input and everything he says he makes points.
26:32 underrated statement.
It’s great to see Savage Dan back, he’s always jokes, unlike you know who...
Nobody:
Skits: “I’m Rinsing Her Body!”
Poet: 👀
Pain Free LOOOOOOOOOL
Chuckie ...The Mcdonald's shout is bang on!
Good start to the week... A Chuckie podcast 💯
The explore page does tell you who you are !!!🤣🤣🤣🤞🏾
Kinda feel sorry for these insta girls who've got nothing to offer except their bodies
When they get into their 30s and 40s their looks are gonna decline rapidly and so will the validation they receive
Cant escape the wall
Its just like sports.. Average athlete hits their prime 18-30 and then declines.
@@benja303 exactly
benja303 the difference is that athletes achieve something to be proud of, it doesn’t compare
@25:02 Nah that close up had me creasing loool
Calums' been going IN with the zoom-ins 😂
5:26 KILLED IT!!!!!!!! 😂 😂 😆 🤣 😜
LOOOOL Dan’s face at 39:50
25:04 ‘Fresh?!’💀😭😂😂😂
Chuckie we like a variety of opinions...Can you please reign Poet in so we can actually hear everyone lol
😂😂
Really respect Poet, feel like people just love saying negative things about him 🙄
His speaks volumes!!! Nuff respect 🤗🤗🤗
I didnt even realize this was from today! Lol I like this cast. Its dope.
Self love has the term SELF in it for a reason. Self is not only what we were born with. It is what you have built over the years you have been alive. A natural can promote self love, and people who want to love their natural will stan her. And if a modified wants to promote self love, she can too, and the person she has built herself into will inspire another. What I do not understand is, you men, as men, are sitting around here trying to tell women what to do and what to not, how you like it and how you don't, what you find attractive and what you don't, but honest to God, this is a genuine question, did we ever ask?
@@RM_BURNER I agree with your take to a certain extent, but the very core of self love is to love oneself first, no? The core idea is to feel comfortable in your own skin. And if you don't feel beautiful in what you already have, and you have the choice of becoming what you want, then you are most likely to take that chance and become it. The very men who speak about not liking plastic surgery and societal depictions of "beautiful" tend to be the same men who chase after them. The hypocrisy is that these men also put their own bodies through extreme diets and gym to look buff and more attractive to women, but since that is "natural", there is no need calling it out as an insecurity.
I don’t think any girl is crying over Poet unfollowing them on insta 🤷🏾♀️ and Poet mate you’re well into your 30s stop lying.
Alright he was just saying hes not the demographic
Isn't Poet 33/34? I remember a previous video he stated he was 33. This is why I do not feel bad for him getting fired over those tweets. He was a big man that should have known better.
@@ayshajohn2439 he's 36
I won’t lie poet was coming nice on this one facts
13:40
Poet Kills me man 😂
"I can smell the coffee brewing in China"
What the fuck man 🤣
Poet is the truth !
Lol I was waiting on this visual!!
@ 22:18-20 you can tell that came from Chuckie's heart LOL
JUST A BEAUTIFUL EPISODE!!
Really good convo you guys are doing bits
poet was chatting fax fax
Fr tho wrong people promoting self love like not inner-standing what love really is because when you deep it love is not about reciprocation... shameless plug here if you really want to know what love is and how to love...etc subscribe to our channel right now. (We will do videos on this later this week)
I'm confused why Poet is talking with bare energy? If you don't like seeing that unfollow and move on. Other people presumably do like to see it that's why they do it. Making such a big deal about YOU not liking it as if your opinion is relevant?
I think he has delusions of grandure
Here we go again poet is always doing the most
True Self love can be found in the constructive critiques, commitment to self improvement/self mastery and the positive reinforcements we give oneself!! Not in the delusion that manifests today...
You are not promoting self love by prancing about in your undies online, with half ya ass out talm' bout some stretch marks we did not even notice!! Self love is about empowerment, and social media plays no role in this EVER!! Your mirror is where the work is done, in your mind is where its at!!
Another example; If you are obese, out of shape or simply have excess fat, self love is not deluding yourself that society is the problem and that people need to stop "Fat shaming" which is not a thing but rather educating ( empowering ) yourself on basic laws of human biology, some of which are as follows.... Eating in a Caloric deficit ( gym or no gym ) = weight loss, Eating in a caloric surplus + a sedentary lifestyle = Obesity, period!! Not making excuses, Taking learned information and applying it, setting goals and attaining them, Taking responsibility is self love....
Those who use Social Media ( Myself included, albeit not for an entire year now ) Are ALL by default seeking validation of some sort, this is directly counter-intuitive to the ideals of self love.
Dans face is soooo mischievous 😂🤣
Poets taking risks today 😂😂😂
chuckies bathroom story had me dyiiiiiin
Please tell me someone heard Dan say “you’re more of a Filippo Inzaghi whereas I play on the shoulder”😂😂😂😂
I think the first thing women think is is he not attracted to me? am I ugly? all the insecurities begin to come out which more times is not even the case it just happens sometimes
40:12 Poets Face lmaooooooooo
Dan's laugh Lmaoooooooooooo
Put Skits on more i beg. Fucking love that guy - would like to see him more
Unnuh man smashed this video to pieces especially Poet!! Man is a Fuckin G!! 👊👊🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥 #LoveYourselves!#Doit4thelovenuhdoit4theLikes
Important topics being spoken about 👊🏻🤞
He said "You was pippo inzaghi, you was offside" LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL
People having surgery to enhance their bodies clearly was not guided by their parents or guardians on how their body works. Think about it once you hit purberty did your parents or guadians or school teachers guide you on how to deal with the changes your body will be going through?
sElF lOvE iS tHe BeSt LoVe
Them ppl that say that are more time crying out for help, nuff said
Maybe us as men should stop gassing up these girls. I followed some pornstar who was stunning, absolutely nasty attitude, cussing out guys argumentative, conceited just an ugly person, she began to look really ugly in the physical to me, yet guys still telling her she looks beautiful, good morning beautiful and all sorts of ear service to gas her, one time she got rude to me I shut her down. Need to stop gassing these insta chicks, were respecting women based on how good they look
@00:55
“I’m in my late 20s, early 30s”. What utter bull! Who says that? You are damn near your mid-30s still rolling around with a juvenile mind.
After you got called out last episode for falsely pretending you were bare young in 2012, 2017 and 2018! Of course, you don’t want your real age being confirmed smh.
hannah60000 shut up you irrelevant hater
😂😂🤣
he's 36
@@winstonchirpsehill1503 rahtid dont lie?
Poet was too much man 🤦♀️ intercepting every conversation back to himself or repeating some next rant. Make your point and keep it moving pls
Loz Z that's how he is. You can tell he's arrogant and loves his own way
Is he a Gemini or Taurus I need to know loool
Lool what u tryna say I'm a Gemini. But I doubt he is one and if he is on the behalf of all geminis we don't claim him
#M2tooBolo Jr hahaha all the ones I know are argumentative defensive or stubborn in discussions 🤷🏽♀️ all the ones I KNOW hahaha
7 11 😂😂😂😂
Great episode guys x p.s. what has Zimbabwe ever done to Poet lol
Big up Chuckie
Fam! My explore page lmao! Hello gyal ya na! 🤣🤣
Psychosomatic is the word you're looking for chucks @ 51mins
Fam,just want y'all to know I be 🤣🤣🤣 at y'all combo all the way in 🇨🇦 y'all the best. Where can I follow poet!!!!!!!
@38:43 "Stage fright...stage fright....STAGE FRIGHT!" looool
does chuckies feet touch the ground when hes sitting in that chair?
No. that's why he's always slumped down in the chair
I can’t stand self righteous people that preach self love. Beauty standards for men doesn’t even COMPARE to the standards for women. How a woman LOOKS can change where she ends up in life. Its not as black and white as you’re all making it to be. In saying that, I’m all for self love and being your authentic self, but the men and women that preach self love on social media are the same ones with coloured contacts, Euro-Asian hair weaves, Gucci this, prada that - imitating their fav celebrities, mad filters etc and on top of that, they’re usually the most judgemental people ever. If a girl isn’t dressed to the nines or doesn’t care about her hair being untidy, they’ll mistreat her. It doesn’t matter what you do, people will have something to say. I’m not against plastic surgery, so long as you can face the consequences (both positive and negative) of your actions. Plastic surgery has improved the lives of people - I think it’s ignorant to ignore that fact especially if you were bullied for having big ears or a big nose for example ESPECIALLY as a woman.
I get poets point about his friend. He didn’t consider him at all or give him the benefit of the doubt of forgetting he just went all out and angryb
Nobody:
Literally Nobody:
Poet: IT'S TRASH
I see people pushing self.love all the while with little true understanding about what it truly means.
Who's the dude who talks the loudest, talks over everyone, and thinks his point of view is the most important. Who's that guy? I wanted to here the hosts views many times and the loud guy just kept interjecting. He seems like one of the secure, insecure folks.
Does anyone know who the guy with the glasses is? Idk who he is first time coming to this podcast
His name is Poet.
Poet needs to learn how to communicate with others in discussions. When he’s expressing his opinion, it feels overwhelming because he’s too enthusiastic(which is always). Conversations with him, make the other members of the pod cast have to fight to also add their opinion. Learn from Dan poet!
The whole talk at the beginning is just a reflection of how women think. They crave attention and validation. They know they will get it so that is why they do it. Can't really knock them for it.