Perse Rework, Athena Remodel & HUGE Balance Changes! SMITE 8.5 Update Notes

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  • @saltedcheese3702
    @saltedcheese3702 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    wow they didn’t let the voice actress know??? that’s really messed up 😭

    • @R2911-u2h
      @R2911-u2h 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Their agent WAS contacted, but even if she was willing, they couldn't get Grey DeLisle because she's part of a union (Screen Actor's Guild/SAG). The SAG does not allow its actors to work with non-unionized projects. Janet Varney (Korra), Chris Sabat (Sun Wukong/Goku), and Doug Cockle (T5 Hou Yi/Geralt) are non-union members which are why they were able to be hired. Dante Basco (Zuko) and Grey DeLisle aren't.
      Why can't Hi-Rez just unionize for them then? That would mean that they could not have community members, casters, new and old (non-union) voice actors like even Lore Lady do work for Smite anymore as they're all non-union. To unionize fully would be an undertaking and have huge costs for the company as well. It's also a huge blanket statement to say that all union members are 100% better off.
      You may have heard that there are union actors that do work under a different name for projects, but this is a risk for them to get blacklisted and would be impossible to do for something like this Avatar battle pass as they are very well known. Grey DeLisle in a tweet regarding the Smite BP said she doesn't work non-union. Because of this, the agent knew the project was impossible so they didn't bother to let Grey know about it.

    • @AceBountyHunterRex
      @AceBountyHunterRex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@R2911-u2h sometimes i wonder if being part of a union is more of a hindrance than a benefit. Granted i know next to nothing about them so i can't really say much on it. Even so I've heard about a number of similar situations before which is unfortunate. Part of me feels like it should be up to the person in question whether they want to do a project or not as opposed to it simply being a matter of union or no.

    • @sav9561
      @sav9561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I knew it wasn’t the original voice actress when I heard the voice pack but at the end of the day it’s still some bulls hit that they didn’t get the original voice actress because she fucking rocks but we got the skin so I guess it’s a win lose situation

  • @KyleTheGinger
    @KyleTheGinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    the voice of Rama is Lanipator from Team Four star so that would be high price he also did Mikey in TMNT battle pass i think its ever a nickelodeon thing or something else

  • @thehermit8723
    @thehermit8723 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Athena finally looks as respected as she is in Greek Mythology.

    • @lukaurbankitek6019
      @lukaurbankitek6019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Heck. Yes.!

    • @Prushinthespirit
      @Prushinthespirit 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yes, no more female Rolf from Ed, Edd & Eddie with blonde hair

    • @twoface9959
      @twoface9959 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@Prushinthespirit I never understood why they gave Athena blonde hair to be honest. Athena is usually depicted with darker-colored hair, and being the Greek goddess of War, I feel she would purposely have black/dark brunette hair to appear more regal. Aphrodite I can somewhat see, but any other Greek goddess? Definitely not. Also, Athena’s voice fits her so much more now just based on her appearance and lore. I’m not familiar with Greek accents, so I can’t comment on the accuracy there. Her model has a lot more details going on (most noticeably the shield for me), and the helmet looks better on Athena than that tiara...? It’s almost like she’s also the Greek Goddess of War, and not just a 👸 on Mount Olympus..? Her facial structure no longer looks like a middle-aged woman overdosing on Botox.

    • @viniciusvyller9458
      @viniciusvyller9458 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Fertility/solar gods are blonde to reflect wheat fields and the Sun, so that's why Aphro, Apollo and Demeter are depicted as blonde.

    • @yuppiesyoo
      @yuppiesyoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@twoface9959 Because in the oldest mythological texts she is said to be xanthḗ which means strawberry blond. When going by the actual sources, blond is better than brunette.

  • @Ytbjohn06
    @Ytbjohn06 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Absolutely love the Athena remodel they actually gave her the helmet that’s in literally every depiction of her plus the black hair is a great change most depictions of her have her with darker hair so it’s a good change imo.

    • @yuppiesyoo
      @yuppiesyoo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      In the oldest mythological texts she is said to be xanthḗ which means strawberry blond. When going by the actual sources, blond is better than brunette. Also remember that most depictions are either modern or the colors have been lost on older ones. When going by the first sources, she is blond.

    • @elijahtr2210
      @elijahtr2210 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I like the remodel too, although she is often translated to being "fair-haired" in the Iliad and the Odyssey.

  • @stonywings5888
    @stonywings5888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Azula voice actress was reached out to on twitter a few hours ago. They had tried to get in touch with her. It would not have happened anyway though since the gig was non-union, and she says she never works non-union.

    • @TollmanVideoWorks
      @TollmanVideoWorks 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So they did contact her before?

    • @stonywings5888
      @stonywings5888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TollmanVideoWorks Apparently. Just search for GreyDeLisle on twitter, then check her recent "tweets and replies". You will find the thread there

  • @pastasempa
    @pastasempa 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I guess manikin hidden blade won't be hidden anymore

    • @Garret007
      @Garret007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      FINALLY xD

    • @San-cb9mj
      @San-cb9mj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im excited to 3k damage a fire giant now lmao

  • @theguardian1993
    @theguardian1993 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    For the most parts, changes were good

  • @zitagirl1
    @zitagirl1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I kinda disagree on Persephone. Sure her numbers are busted, but overall? It got so simplified, it removes the charm she had when 1 played her.
    And honestly? This whole rework feels like made for players who don't like playing against her and those who couldn't be bothered to learn her. For the actual players who did play her this feels like a gutting and once her numbers are properly adjusted...there's not gonna be much reason to pick her when similar mages to her just does what she does much better.
    Shame really, I really enjoyed her as she was and actually properly using her felt satisfying.

    • @JustAnotherAlex
      @JustAnotherAlex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Exactly. Hearing pon talk about planning ahead with her new passive will be key felt like a slap in the face. Planning ahead was the whole point of persephone's entire kit but the majority of players failed to learn or understand that. What makes them think this will change?
      Her flowers look like a complete joke now. Her safety net against getting ganked is gone. Her ult which was supposed to be the strongest cc in the game by design got sheared. Her 1 which I know was difficult to aim when pressured, was an amazing form of clear and set up. Now it's quite garbage at both. This is Persephone for dummies, and when the numbers come back showing similar results or less play time. It won't be difficult to figure out why.

    • @zitagirl1
      @zitagirl1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JustAnotherAlex You can't even plan much with the passive, because the numbers are much more limited. You can only have 7 flowers up at the same time, so if you put down 6 while in passive and use 2 again while alive, gg, your flowers are gone.
      Yeah, now she's even easier to actually gank, considering she also has a worse waveclear that sup can easily bodyblock.
      I'm afraid this might backfire. Sure, she's easy now to play even by newbies and now people can fight against her so much easier without much thinking, but I'm not sure how this supposed to be fun or even good.

    • @JustAnotherAlex
      @JustAnotherAlex 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@zitagirl1 This re-work has me absolutely dumbfounded.

    • @persephone9084
      @persephone9084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The day my life ended..

    • @PGK87
      @PGK87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I love how they are saying you can plant your seeds when dead...which Persephone main plants seeds where they died!? 🤣🤣🤣

  • @YourHomieJC
    @YourHomieJC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The fafnir buff is actually insane. I already felt he was slept on, he feels a lot stronger this season compared to season 7. It's likely he's going to be considered op after this patch goes live, but I suppose that's fine considered how little he's played

    • @virustsunami4096
      @virustsunami4096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      U can buff him a ton, people still dont play him bc they cant handle the kit properly xD

    • @BigT3V
      @BigT3V 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes they need to change his kit at this point he falls off hard late game.

    • @virustsunami4096
      @virustsunami4096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Need to change his kit?? 🤣🤣🤣 Hes one of the best lategame gods next to Hel, chronos, tiamat n babayaga xDDDD
      How is a AoE 20% pwr buff nd 30%attackspeed not good in lategame?
      I killed Fg after 30min in less than 10seconds bc his ult 🤣

    • @YourHomieJC
      @YourHomieJC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@BigT3V bruh fafnir has one of the strongest lategames of any guardian

    • @BigT3V
      @BigT3V 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@YourHomieJC Not when he ults and the whole team just stomps him b/c his transformation takes to long. Smh do you play ranked ???? i’m not talking about pubs

  • @revenge3265
    @revenge3265 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    21:40 Honestly, the high heels would fit her lore pretty well actually but the thing holding it back, is the fact that I don't believe those type of heels would "be in fashion" during Athena's time period.

  • @dragontyron
    @dragontyron 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    On the Set nerfs, I do recall people taking issue with Set diving towers in the earlygame. It didn't occur to me until I re-read the patch notes that, because he has access to 15% physical mitigation, he can totally eat tower shots better than most other gods save like, Ravana.
    Granted, if you're getting tower dove around lv3-ish, you probably have more problems than the Set's mitigations, but this change will _definitely_ be noticeable for Set players if they make a habit of teleporting into tower lines.

  • @goldschuss2496
    @goldschuss2496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So after the patch, what would you consider building on Awilix? Bumbas Hammer or Spear?

    • @DukeSloth
      @DukeSloth  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Protector of the Jungle

  • @_mrspanky_4587
    @_mrspanky_4587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    She'll nerf is basically a Set buff lmao. Hopefully we see my AA junglers is SPL now. Would love some Kali stompage

  • @jdohma7134
    @jdohma7134 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think the Athena rework looks and sounds great! I like that they made her look more like Athena Parthenos with her helmet. I’m especially happy with her new voice pack.

  • @BigPapaSpeedwagon
    @BigPapaSpeedwagon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Warding sigil is a pretty fun item to build tbh. It’s just a pure tank item and I have had situations where it’s upgrades have made me a dominant bruiser. I like it as an item. Bluestone being dominant is IMO not that big of a deal. There is always going to be a dominant set of starters and the ones that give damage and sustain like bluestone does will always be good. They would have to make bluestone pretty much useless to take it out of meta.

  • @alecmoran2096
    @alecmoran2096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Seer of the jungle sounds like a support item rather then a jungles still rip

  • @bluefiremoon1158
    @bluefiremoon1158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    The thing with Azula is that you can't just get a random voice actress. The original one's voice is literally made for Azula, her whole lore. Without the actual voice, her skin gets kinda cheap but we will see.

    • @Artholos
      @Artholos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No we should fight it. Make a good solid racket about it cause it sucks and its stupid that hirez wants our money and they're gonna blatantly cut corners.

    • @TheBlueArmageddon
      @TheBlueArmageddon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ehm... I have watched ATLA multiple times and I couldnt tell that they got a different VA

    • @Artholos
      @Artholos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheBlueArmageddonSure it sounds like the new VA did a good enough impression. But that’s the the best case, you have someone trying to recapture the magic of someone else’s performance.
      And on the bad outcome, you get Avatar State Elmo as the voice pack for the Aang Merlin skin :/

    • @Nucleofission
      @Nucleofission 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Artholos They tried to contact her but she said she does not do non union gigs.

    • @TheGamersCastInc
      @TheGamersCastInc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's because the job was non union she only works if the job is unionized

  • @ABlanketGhost
    @ABlanketGhost 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Any clue on how spectral armor + upgraded shell stack for crit? First the 60% extra damage reduction and then half that, or take the 60% out of the halved damage?

  • @g3neralcross911
    @g3neralcross911 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I wonder with spear getting lifesteal, as Anubis do you get mana boots instead now?

  • @BosSoxFan15
    @BosSoxFan15 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do we know if they fixed the bug where Sylvanus can't auto the walls down

  • @milkmonger6931
    @milkmonger6931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    You be looking mighty fine with that hat

  • @rapidtreal4612
    @rapidtreal4612 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    anubis mains lets party!

  • @heavencanceler2691
    @heavencanceler2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice, that Gem of Focus buff should help with Raijin...

  • @Rawas100
    @Rawas100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I say sir duke that the cap you are sporting is mighty swaggin

  • @Nuudson007
    @Nuudson007 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love how everyone shortens persephone to just perse wich literally just means ass in finnish lmao

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      to be fair she was pretty ass to most people

  • @adriansmith7730
    @adriansmith7730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fun fact: Gilgamesh can stun you if he throws you against the tower perimeter in clash, the radius of the tower can sometimes bug an stun everything that runs through it c:

  • @Val17282
    @Val17282 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If it wasn't for the perse rework, I would've been looking forward to this patch for Athena's remodel

  • @stefandesic6709
    @stefandesic6709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is battle pass plus, what does it give you?

    • @sleebees
      @sleebees 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      The battle pass plus just boots you to level 20 instantly.

  • @sof9005
    @sof9005 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    RIP Persephone 2019 - 2020

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Huh? She much better now though lol

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jodyboles8208 She is braindead trash now. Thanks for killing the only goddess you needed an actual brain to play.
      Sincerely: A Perse main and former Smite player

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newfieldcharlotte324 she isnt brain dead or trash. She can still do alot of different things with her plants. Her old kit is horrible in so many ways and I'm glad they changed it.
      If you want to leave the game because of a much needed rework then bye! Good riddance then!

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jodyboles8208you prob never played her in your life you are just frustrated that there was a goddess you couldn’t bully the shit out of just by playing Goobi.
      Also yeah, bye. Enjoy your trash heap of a game that is dying and well deserved so.

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newfieldcharlotte324 I will enjoy it thanks! Also the game is far from dying. Duke even made a video on that haha

  • @fiji.
    @fiji. 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Anhur’s ability to pull the scorpions while taking no damage due to his pillar is why he is meta now

  • @CrimsonShoty
    @CrimsonShoty 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I honestly think Apollo's Passive should have a sound que when it procs.
    Every god in Smite with an attack speed steroid ability has some form or initial sound que which lets you expect faster attacks.
    The only que you get from Apollo's steroid is 5 basic attacks in your face!

  • @viniciusvyller9458
    @viniciusvyller9458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That earlier leak about Pers rework made me think they were removing her bulb explosion entirely and it also didn't say she could choose the direction of her flowers. I was thinking the rework would be utter shite, but now it seems a bit more interesting. The nerf on her ult still makes me mad tho, how come people think her ult is overtuned? If the enemy hunter is smart he will destroy the vines quickly, it is meant to be a team fight ult, yet you just use it to damage 1 target as the cage gets melted in less than a second.

    • @thehat8006
      @thehat8006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The problem most people have with her ult is that she can completely miss and still have it be effective. And as a hunter walking up to her out to break your teammate out is a death sentence.

  • @Jahkrel
    @Jahkrel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i like the bumbas change. I like the flavor. Glad the passive isnt nerfed. Would be nice to have another real option tho.

  • @darkosphere3252
    @darkosphere3252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    a good rework, people will be mad like the loki rework but its for the best. glad to see it

  • @Eigalaxy
    @Eigalaxy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the bonus balance nerfs for gilga was good but the main patch nerfs were a little bit much

  • @Rexkey13
    @Rexkey13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Didn’t they just change sundering axe to stop mages from rushing it at the end of a build and dealing % health damage to tanks? And now manikin hidden blade deals over double the % health proc that sundering axe was doing? Obviously hidden blade isn’t restoring that health to the mage, but it’s got power now and physical prots to help out with survivability. Anyone else see a problem with that?

  • @evilallensmithee
    @evilallensmithee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ancile was already a no go after the def was dropped. This is just insult to injury, the low cost and power were the only things that made me ask am I under valuing this item 🙄

  • @andnl9819
    @andnl9819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bumbas Spear having a passive that stacks on getting objectives like fire and towers. i feel like it would be better and suit the point of the item more. Item helps you get objectives, item rewards you for getting objectives. It would be super snowbally, but isn't that the point of an objective killing item?

  • @hybridhd7436
    @hybridhd7436 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The across the sky nerf doesn't matter much if you go Trans anyway, which I always build on Apollo because I'm not a Devos/life steal fan.

  • @FreyMagni
    @FreyMagni 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They already have the Azula model in game. They should add a recolor with the original voice actor

  • @redmondale
    @redmondale 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    At 28:09 that bug is where you have his 3 all game until you die its broken omgl

    • @redmondale
      @redmondale 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And I'm talking about the new god and how you get movement speed buff when you run towards it. Instead you get it all over the map.

  • @SunderingLoki
    @SunderingLoki 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Most op gods got nerfed im so happy. Though the tsuk needs more than that. The mitigations need to go he is already cc immune

  • @xRagingxDemonx
    @xRagingxDemonx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It only reduces abilities by 1s. Maybe reduce the true damage to 50. It won't be as bursty of an item.
    Keep the % Pen
    All they needed to do was buff other jungle items by an actual good amount.
    They keep shoving these starter item upgrades into the ground and are making them almost unimportant. Lots of people skip their starters still and some don't even buy them at level 17 or 20.
    Or simply sell them.
    Quite frankly can we get a separate slot for starter items and keep our core 6 slots for all the other items.

    • @TheGamersCastInc
      @TheGamersCastInc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      In gm everyone buys starters or loses lane so idk if that's a casual thing or what

    • @xRagingxDemonx
      @xRagingxDemonx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheGamersCastInc That's what Hi Rez and other content creators do and say they see.
      In my games 90% of them do. So I'm not talking about personal experience champ

    • @TheGamersCastInc
      @TheGamersCastInc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xRagingxDemonx well bud alot of content creators say diffrent. Also hi rez says alot hell I'm still waiting for chibi loki from 3 years ago they said they'd make. Also you never clarified that bud reco

    • @xRagingxDemonx
      @xRagingxDemonx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheGamersCastInc Didn't think I had to?? It's a Duke Sloth video as to which he's mentioned sort of things in the past.
      Figured it was common knowledge around these parks.

    • @TheGamersCastInc
      @TheGamersCastInc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@xRagingxDemonx yes but when your referring somthing you clearly that how it's written is as a personal statement not this is what the devs said. But okay bud

  • @Jormyyy
    @Jormyyy 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This patch was pretty dang big! The Athena remodel is to die for!
    I personally think the Perse rework is for the better as it looks much less difficult to play against. My only gripe is that the new plant mechanics feel too similar to Ah Puch's 1 IE "charging circle ability". Her new 1 is also relatively similar to Undead Surge as well, kinda like a baby version of his 1 but also better for clear. I dunno, kinda weird, hopefully Ah Puch is up next on the reworking block. I'd like to see him shifted more towards a solo lane/ bruiser mage Zhong style character.
    As for item and god balance, did Magus really need a buff? I guess yea it is to differentiate it from Deso now, but still.
    Shell nerf, ehhhh kinda mixed on. As a tank player me no likey seeing as it is less effective against aa gods, but on the other hand it really was too potent to be able to spread out multiple block stacks if played correctly.
    Not a fan of the Baka buffs because I simply dislike Baka. His 2 is just so cheesy of an ability.
    I like the Chiron buff a lot, and I don't even play him!
    The rest is pretty good, no other comments.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So much for my main I guess...bye Perse, hello Ah-Perse, bye Smite.

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      nooo dont touch my baby ah puch, hes so nice and bursty and can heal himself so nicely yeah hes no good in conquest but idc about conquest

  • @markuscorneliussen2919
    @markuscorneliussen2919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think the running theory is that they didn't get the original voice actress because she's a big supporter and par of the voice actor union, which is also what she is speculating in a tweet

    • @itssosicktwisted3506
      @itssosicktwisted3506 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what does that have to do with anything?

    • @markuscorneliussen2919
      @markuscorneliussen2919 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@itssosicktwisted3506 Union members aren't allowed to work with stuff that hire non union

  • @BDavis-mo1cx
    @BDavis-mo1cx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That deserter penalty bit might be a deal breaker. People are randomly getting bumped by their servers all the time at least on the Xbox platform. Why would I even bother to reconnect after a crash now? That just adds insult to injury.

  • @Kamia2003
    @Kamia2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    AMC Bees! Doesn’t disarm anymore duke. Or did you mean the cripple from stinger would get rid of nem shield?

  • @TheBlueArmageddon
    @TheBlueArmageddon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think Bumbas Spear will be good if you take down a camp and then push a lane or gank an enemy team

  • @TheHornedKing
    @TheHornedKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God damn that Athena remodel is great! Her default skin is now possibly my favorite skin in the game.
    And that Persephone rework looks very promising. I knew people overeacted about this. Why do you allways assume the worst?
    Btw, the slow on her 1 was mentioned on the dev blog.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Perse rework is trash. She is now Ah Puch with an escape. Perse that needed a brain to play is dead. Bye Smite.

    • @TheHornedKing
      @TheHornedKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newfieldcharlotte324 The old reminds me more of Ah Puch. And you still need a brain with the new one if you wanna use the flowers effectively. Those have a lot of potential.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheHornedKing the old one? Just how dude did you ever even play her?

    • @TheHornedKing
      @TheHornedKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newfieldcharlotte324 Yes. Quite a bit even. And while it doesn't remind me much of Ah Puch, it does remind me more of him that this new one does.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheHornedKing yeah, leaving behind a field of damage targets in a single area you can trigger...not Ah Puch like at all. Before: A garden you could strategically plant to protect yourself from ganks, secure objectives or achieve lane pressure.
      Now: A few centralized minions that do little to no damage and 0 cc potential. She is trash, pure gutted trash now.
      They even said it themselves in the patch notes. They didn’t gather any significant data on the opinions of Persephone players. They just alienated all players who mastered her and won’t get anyone else to play her either since she is just a run of the mill mage with nothing unique or notable about her.
      There are much better options for the average brain dead Smite player still.

  • @gogomulaney7317
    @gogomulaney7317 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    At least the Azula voice actress sounds pretty damned good for not being the OG actress

  • @andnl9819
    @andnl9819 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wind Demon was super over-statted. I don't know that we can say it wasn't a problem, junglers have been using it for a while on gods that should not be going crit. I think it was going to be a real problem with bruiser items getting nerfed.
    Wish they would have just removed the pen, and agreed gilded arrow is an issue.

    • @thehat8006
      @thehat8006 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It would be less of a problem cause people would be building more full defense items. Gilded isn't really a problem, just gives more farm.

  • @adamdavis7128
    @adamdavis7128 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow 3 videos in 24 hours

  • @TheBlueArmageddon
    @TheBlueArmageddon 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really happy about the Apollo ult nerf, as it was way too easy to stay in air forever and troll. The passiv nerf/revert is a shame tho, as I finally feel like his passiv exists, but if he really is so strong then I guess it is warranted

    • @viniciusvyller9458
      @viniciusvyller9458 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Silverbranch Apollo is a beast, maybe thats the reason for the passive nerf.

    • @ans-dq9xh
      @ans-dq9xh 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No he got nerfed because of his win rate and for the ult its more about u just need to push leave with ur ult while Ur mates fight at FG and come help in a 4v5

  • @TheRollingCabbage
    @TheRollingCabbage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like someone in hirez hates ADC mains (about shell nerf)

  • @voiddarkstar7561
    @voiddarkstar7561 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mah shell mah heart

  • @mackledackle
    @mackledackle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I like the idea of a super high skill ceiling Persephone, I'm not big on the idea of dumbing down her kit so newer/lower skill players can make more use of her. Having some gods that take more skill/practice to utilize effectively isn't a bad thing. Gods like Persephone that become more viable as the skill increases is kind of the opposite of how some gods can pubstomp at lower skill levels, but aren't viable in top/pro level games.

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      i do wish they hadnt lowered her ceiling so much, but the needed to lower her floor, which they did, so im happy with it

    • @mackledackle
      @mackledackle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@childoficarus5334 but they didn't NEED to lower her floor. Not every god needs to be someone every player can pick up easily. Pretty much every other god in the game can be picked up and used pretty well after only a game or two. Hard gods are good for a game because they pose a challenge that makes the gamers step up, and rewards those who put in the work to utilize them effectively. If someone isn't instantly good with Persephone and doesn't want to practice to improve, that's fine, there are over 100 other gods that they can pick up quickly.

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mackledackle i disagree, everyone should be able to whatever god they want with next to no training, by having a high skill ceiling, you open up an avenue for people that truly enjoy the god to learn something new that only they can. simplest example i can think of is AA cancels, you can still 100% play susano without them, but you aren't doing your max dmg.

    • @mackledackle
      @mackledackle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@childoficarus5334 Ullr, Yemoja, Heimdallr, and Morrigan all have harder kits/mechanics and lower ranked gamers have noticeably lower win rates with those gods than higher ranked ones. I guess those gods all need reworks to make them easy for new/low ranked players too. Maybe we remove Ullr's stance switch, replace heim's 3 with a line dash and take away his aa chain, yemoja can have mana and normal cooldowns, and morrigan gets a long range high damage line attack for her ult and a leap that does damage for her 3.

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mackledackle nice job being snarky bud. morrigan is debateably only difficult with her ult cause its every other god in the game. those gods all have high skill ceilings AND low skill floors, whereas perse had both a high ceiling and floor.

  • @Darkalanche
    @Darkalanche 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fucking Crab rave theme. Welp. Guess i'll start playing that as a meme xD

    • @ragnarokgamer6817
      @ragnarokgamer6817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I've been playing Smite as a meme this entire time 🤔

    • @Darkalanche
      @Darkalanche 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You too huh?

  • @TrueFemboyKing
    @TrueFemboyKing 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I hope they changed her voice also with the remodel, it's gonna sound weird with the old one. Also when does the remodel come to live servers?

  • @thearbiter3369
    @thearbiter3369 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've barely played gilgamesh and he already been put in the shadow realm

  • @deathstriker9076
    @deathstriker9076 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    For all the Avatar skins (and TMNT) seems like they'd use lines from the show then compensate the actors, recording lines again seems pointless.

  • @One_vile_gt
    @One_vile_gt 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP Shell...

  • @beepbop2387
    @beepbop2387 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know the gilgamesh bug, there is a way to buy a Full item essentially for free(shop glitch).

  • @jettblade
    @jettblade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I saw the Persephone rework part of the patch notes show and am happy with the changes. I do think that it will make her more accessible to more players and simplify her kit. I am still unclear on how the plants do the damage when they are moving, particularly if they attack everything in the area they move through or just one target because it was unclear. With the patches it seems like some good changes overall to the items and gods, hopefully I can get Anhur to Diamond before the changes.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. Making a fun god brain dead for idiots to play is always an exceptionally good design choice.

    • @jettblade
      @jettblade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newfieldcharlotte324 She was only good for top tier players and no one else. That's an example of bad design. Making it so more people can enjoy playing her is a good thing. She will still require planning ahead but will not suffer as much if she can't. Also players will actually have to work to get her plants to work not just wait, leap away, and let the AI do the job for you.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jettblade i am not a top tier player yet I got her to like 5 star worshippers and managed to climb ranks with her extremely well. She is not for top Tier players she was for people who has brains bigger then the size of a pea. Now she is an Ah Puch copy fashioned for the general brain damaged e-boy trash of Smite.

    • @jettblade
      @jettblade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newfieldcharlotte324 So you played literally hundreds of games with her. If I got 5 stars with any god I would be a top tier player with that god. I have only played her 6 times. I didn't like the kit and micromanaging aspect of it so I stopped playing her but would try her again with these changes.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jettblade well good for you. For me she was the last interesting and fun God in Smite and the only real reason besides maybe Baba to play the game so I am out.

  • @nightmarephd2307
    @nightmarephd2307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The pers rework is really bad, its just take away her thing. I am sad

  • @thesorrow96
    @thesorrow96 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    athena needs new abilities + ult and i support that

  • @cata1st10
    @cata1st10 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    sad thing is the khepri skin will be at lvl 60 in bp :( i remember they said it on live

    • @danielhertz1984
      @danielhertz1984 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember they saying about khepri being in the opening and the hades skin being in level 60

  • @thegabster4858
    @thegabster4858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Gilgamesh is very broken thanks for the nerf:)

  • @-alexandru
    @-alexandru 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey duke can you hit us up on twitter or youtube community when the PTS is up? Thank you, I need to test out the queen rework if it s poopy DPS than now

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      pts is out now i believe

    • @-alexandru
      @-alexandru 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@childoficarus5334 yup thank you, tested out persephone, even though I thought they killed the queen she still has damage just in another way... may be bearable this rework

  • @Scyclo
    @Scyclo 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can you have azula without grey delisle. Now I'm convinced that they didn't contact zukos va. Hi-rez has really shown their colors with how cheap they're gonna be with stuff. Dear God they make tons of fucking money off the lootboxes already, and your telling me they can't afford to hire voice actors in unions? Unbelievable.

    • @Emilio-lz5ux
      @Emilio-lz5ux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey stupid did you know Union voice actors cannot be hired by non-unions? Hi-Rez isisnt part of it and apparently they did try to contact her but she didnt respond so they went ahead anyways since she still wouldn't/couldn't accept the contract

  • @__maeeeeee
    @__maeeeeee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1AM🥴👌 perfect timing

  • @MommalaHarris
    @MommalaHarris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The voices packs were the weakest part of the Avatar skins, bummer we’re probably going to miss out on one of the best voice anchors in the show

  • @scalpingsnake
    @scalpingsnake 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    With Perse, I do feel like the plants could be quite obnoxious. I don't hate her rework but I can see her still being annoying.

    • @newfieldcharlotte324
      @newfieldcharlotte324 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      So is Goobi, so is Tiamat, so is Noob Wa, so is .... this is not an argument.

  • @evilallensmithee
    @evilallensmithee 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    TL;DR - Prepatch Athena is actually correct to mythology 😂. She was yellow haired, with flashing blueish-grey eyes. Her accent really is the only Greek God’s that replicates the musical nature of Ancient Greek.
    It is crazy how all these players think this is an improvement to her in making her “more accurate” when it is really fulfilling modern stereotypes of Greeks rather than replicating the way she was described in Ancient Greek literature. 🤪
    In Ancient Greek Athena has (ξάνθη) ‘xánthe’ meaning “Yellow” since Demeter (goddess of the harvest) also has this color hair, it may be a flaxen a pale yellow, or a reddish yellow what we might call strawberry blonde. This is also the color of a couple of Ancient Greek mortals so it is safe to suspect it was closer to the natural variation in the modern Greek population. This is unlike Apollo, Dionysus, Eros, and possibly Aphrodite who have (χρῡ́σειος) ‘khrū́seios’ which would be “golden” hair. This “golden” was likely a more intense yellow possibly even luminous. Before you go thinking all the Gods are blondes. Zeus had hair like a thundercloud, so black. His brothers, Hades and Poseidon, had (κύανος) ‘kúanos’ this word kind of meant blue or grey. Which is very interesting, because in the minds of Ancient Greeks black and white past through blue, a dark enough blue became the night sky and a pale blue became white like clouds and the sea foam. So for Hades it likely is an allusion to the grey hair of old people (who do tend to die), but the color of the sea for Poseidon. Ares is usually covered in red blood but his hair is not made distinct from the red blood, so likely we have a ginger god of war. While a modern Mediterranean look is thought to be swarthy and black haired, the Greeks themselves described theirs and other local populations as having black, red, and yellow hair.
    It is possible that they didn’t mean the quite the sometimes nearly white blonde of the Nordic peoples, but perhaps they did, remember for nearly 400 years the Ottomans ruled Greece. Now, the Empire had a tendency to lump the Slavs and Jews (fleeing Spanish oppression) with the local Greeks. Additionally, the Arabs had a tradition of of “breeding out” non-Muslims, which in the most extreme cases became active genocides.
    Athena is interesting in that she also had *GRAY* eyes (insert joke about Stark Lannister love child). This gray-eyedness is (γλαυκῶπις) ‘glaukôpis’ meaning and denotes a flashing blue gray, like light reflecting off the sea to near white, or possibly like fire light in the eyes of an owl at night.
    A Modern Greek accent sounds a little like a French accent but without the nasals and all the fluid vowels. It has stressed syllables and sounds about like a Russian speaking French. Ancient Greek on the other hand has a lyrical or musical quality as it changed tones instead accents. In short if Ancient Greek god had just learned English it would sound like Athena’s voice pack before this patch. 🤓

  • @timonaltuntas8494
    @timonaltuntas8494 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Think apollo is dead after this plus the hunter item changes from the last one

    • @Emilio-lz5ux
      @Emilio-lz5ux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep

    • @silvergir89
      @silvergir89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ability overhaul to basic please.

  • @highprice6939
    @highprice6939 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ancile NO!!!

  • @cfua6308
    @cfua6308 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The tiamat skinnnnnn too bad im poor and cant get it

  • @Grimmacemack
    @Grimmacemack 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Neither of the shield nerfs were needed, neither did Gilgamesh or Tiamat

    • @Emilio-lz5ux
      @Emilio-lz5ux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nope it was needed but it wont change much and Tiamat is meeh. Gil needed it but his scaling more

  • @TheGamersCastInc
    @TheGamersCastInc 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still love smite because there the only modern company that makes achillies gay when he was in the orignal text so poggers.

    • @silvergir89
      @silvergir89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That depends we are getting close to LGBTQ+ Pride month.

  • @shareefkillings5343
    @shareefkillings5343 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So no more soul gem. For me. Spear magus is better pick up

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      depending on how soul gem interacts with new perse it may be fantastic

  • @persephone9084
    @persephone9084 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #notmypersephone

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's fine. Shes much better like it or not haha

    • @ssukotto_
      @ssukotto_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jodyboles8208 no..

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ssukotto_ she is believe it or not. you guys just hate change

    • @ssukotto_
      @ssukotto_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jodyboles8208 she needed a rework but this is not the right way

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ssukotto_ how so? her kit is way more consistent and less frustrating now.

  • @juanandujar9241
    @juanandujar9241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Persephone rework is very simple, everything is very straightforward.

    • @Emilio-lz5ux
      @Emilio-lz5ux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Exaclty they dumbes it down and her passive on papee is ass

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Emilio-lz5ux extra gold passives are always good

  • @qrotan2499
    @qrotan2499 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im kind of disappointed that Athena's recolor doesn't have the red hair. I will say I was hoping for an accent in the revoice too but that just how it be sometimes.

  • @devilcwesker5980
    @devilcwesker5980 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    19:30yeah im not buying the skin sorry just bec of that voice thing

  • @UniCorni.7
    @UniCorni.7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nerfs and nerfs and more nerfs
    -finished the vid... who’s in charge of balancing this game ? Man it feels like they’re a team of cats on catnip.

  • @whoIeheart
    @whoIeheart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i don’t like the bumbas nerf 🥺

  • @apostolosnikolis5281
    @apostolosnikolis5281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    WAIT.... SO THE GREEK GODDESS OF WISDOM WILL NO LONGER SOUND LIKE A RUSSIAN BIMBO?

    • @silvergir89
      @silvergir89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Unless you have the Red Star skin.

    • @apostolosnikolis5281
      @apostolosnikolis5281 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silvergir89 well... Of course, but that is supposed to be Russian

  • @louisfill849
    @louisfill849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Olorun still exist nobody plays that guy.

  • @sodalangstson9438
    @sodalangstson9438 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah i not gonna use that remodel athena

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Why? Its amazing lol

    • @sodalangstson9438
      @sodalangstson9438 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@jodyboles8208 nah the old model better it like when ares got his there really nothing wrong the base skin beside slighty out date

    • @immortalbeast6990
      @immortalbeast6990 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Imo she didn't need a remodel all she needed was a new voice pack

    • @jodyboles8208
      @jodyboles8208 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sodalangstson9438 couldnt be more wrong but alright haha. Also the old area model was pretty bad as well more so if you compare it to his new model that looks far better

  • @yolover111
    @yolover111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Come back after 1-2 years, and they still can't fix gods correctly.
    Like we have so many gods in c and b tiers let alone the d tier, Which we should be raising UP, not nerfing gods that are A tier.. obviously the the S tier new gods, but the ones benefiting from the new items, mean change the items NOT nerf the god.
    Hirez still be smoking the dank.
    Yet I still come back and play every now and then lol.
    Imagine getting good with perseph only to see the kit change, smh

    • @extinctzebroid
      @extinctzebroid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Many c and d tier characters can't be changed without breaking Smite's other modes. The worst examples being Ah Puch and Zeus who can terrorise non-conquest modes but are terrible in conquest.

    • @1366Erik
      @1366Erik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@extinctzebroid No offense but Conq is the main game mode and it should be balanced around that.

    • @extinctzebroid
      @extinctzebroid 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@1366Erik I play conquest exclusively and I understand that perspective but conquest is not the main game mode for the majority of players. Hi Rez does emphasise conquest balance but they can't ignore the concerns of players of other modes as that is a huge portion of the player base and, therefore, a huge source of income.

    • @BigPapaSpeedwagon
      @BigPapaSpeedwagon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@1366Erik arena is literally the most popular mode in smite.

    • @1366Erik
      @1366Erik 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BigPapaSpeedwagon I don't doubt it. Thanks for the info

  • @lukaurbankitek6019
    @lukaurbankitek6019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can I just say how happy I am! It brings me such joy to see hi-rez including lgbtq stuff in the lore of the game.
    Also, great video. Very well spoken.

    • @silvergir89
      @silvergir89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And a possibility that with all the less-than chickenshit anti-trans laws that is going on in most the south (not sure on Georgia though), it is a possibility that Hi-Rez is doing that to protest those laws (weather in the state of Georgia (Hi-Rez being based in Atlanta), or not), hell I even heard that Gearbox is considering hauling ass out of Texas if the anti-trans laws there are passed.

    • @lukaurbankitek6019
      @lukaurbankitek6019 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silvergir89 yes! That is amazing :3

  • @keystorm8598
    @keystorm8598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On paper, the Persephone rework is awful. Ill wait til in game for final judgment.

    • @childoficarus5334
      @childoficarus5334 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      samdadude just uploaded a video playing her, it went very well

  • @hosewastaken-wastaken
    @hosewastaken-wastaken 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So you gonna upload a 90 minutes video and not even add an index or that thingy where you see whats the theme on each part of video? Byea

  • @Emilio-lz5ux
    @Emilio-lz5ux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bruh wtf on the Gil one lmao. They were portrayed as inseprable best friends and had fun fighting each other and monsters. Even when he died the poem depicted Gil saying "there will be no other who will claim the spot of friend that you hold". If there was of romance he could have clearly displayed it in the poem but it wasn't as such. Man LGBT agenda pushing over stuff that has nothing to do with them

    • @AceBountyHunterRex
      @AceBountyHunterRex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Probably the only thing i find annoying sometimes about people when it comes to 2 characters/people being close to each other is that it always gets treated as romantic love. Even though there are other ways of loving and being close to people. This goes for any relationship between 2 characters regardless of being gay or not.

    • @silvergir89
      @silvergir89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AceBountyHunterRex And because Gilgamesh's lore is the oldest known among the Smite gods released, there has to be some fragments missing to full story.

    • @AceBountyHunterRex
      @AceBountyHunterRex 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@silvergir89 could be

  • @Emilio-lz5ux
    @Emilio-lz5ux 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As for Achilles its shown hes "possibly" bisexual as he had princess Breseis as his lover and although some classical researchers assume he could have been bisexual its agreed he held a platonic relationship with Patrocles so theres the agend pushing on stuff again

    • @silvergir89
      @silvergir89 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And back then the concept of sexual identities was never in the way it is known now.

  • @bakersdozen4283
    @bakersdozen4283 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol
    An hour and a half is too long dude.

  • @Rawas100
    @Rawas100 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can I say sir duke that the cap you are sporting is mighty swaggin

  • @louisfill849
    @louisfill849 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Olorun still exist nobody plays that guy.