CAN AM RYKER ON THE DYNO with TREAL PERFORMANCE
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All of the video footage is on the stock factory tune.
This new exhaust system from TREAL PERFORMANCE will work just fine with the shad right-hand saddlebag we have tested it.
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The exhaust will retail for $625 USD and will ship Nationwide. This new exhaust system will get you 7.3 extra horsepower and shave a whopping 11lb off of the RYKER. purchase here..
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you can watch my complete installation video of the NEW TREAL performance exhaust HERE.
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The treal Performance intake retail price is $295 USD and will ship Nationwide.
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The treal performance intake will get you an extra 6.5 wheel horsepower. It will also knock an additional 4 lb of weight off of the vehicle.
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Thanks Bill for all your videos!! The hands on detailed approach is excellent. I think the Ryker community is very thankful for you, keep up the great work 👍👍
Love how the custom exhaust sounds.
Now I fully understand what that machine does, thanks for posting.
That wrap is amazing.
This is awesome!
Great job 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
So you're the infamous Bill 🤔
Congratulations my friend you're my new hero 😂😂😂
Yes sir and thank you for stopping by the TH-cam channel. Subscribing to the channel helps out tremendously. If you ever have any questions or need any guidance when working on your ryker or if you're seeking out some custom tuning work to gain more horsepower and torque which is exactly what I do for a living... Remember you can always get a hold of me through social media here's the link to my personal Facebook account and here is the link also to my Facebook business page BLR TUNING
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@@BLRTUNING I take my can am course tomorrow, plan to purchase next month 👊🏾
I wish there were an option for the intake that didn't involve leaving a panel being permanently removed
It is something that we are looking into..
Thanks for posting Bill. Interesting to see dyno results but would be nice to see how that translates into the real world. A quarter mile would be interesting but 0-60 or 0-80 would be more useful for most people. Or passing times like 40-60 or 60-80. One big plus the exhaust isn't super loud. I like to ride fast so it is better to attract less attention. Do they have a better option for blocking rain? Would be interesting to see if a tune actually helped as well.
Check out my TH-cam videos on my channel we have tons of videos at the drag strip comparing parts and whatnot showing real world performance not just the dyno performance take a look around my channel or just Google search Can-Am ryker at the drag strip I literally have the only videos on TH-cam of it
Fascinating review and tests results! Well done video! Put together so nicely! Does the lighter weight give you better MPG? At 12:48 it sounds like you were going 100 mph!! Great sound! I would definitely need the silencer!
Great video. Does the tune add more HP torque when you buy rather exhaust/intake package?
In this video all testing was done on the stock factory tune file.. yes you can pick up about another 20 horsepower and about 30% more torque by doing a custom tune. I've been tuning motorcycles for over 15 years I do offer custom tuning for the Can-Am ryker... please feel free to reach out to me through the blr tuning Facebook page if you have any further questions I would be happy to assist you..
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Bill any luck with Treal finding a third party to make a panel to custom fit that intake. Their sales would shoot through the roof if they did. I'm sure that is what is stopping most people from purchasing the intake.
No I have not even begun to work on that project yet probably over the winter
This new exhaust system from TREAL PERFORMANCE will work just fine with the shad right-hand saddlebag we have tested it.
BiLL Ramseyer I really need your help making my power commander v 2 step launch control work on my 2010 zx10r. How can I get your help walking me through the process? I’d be great full.
Look me up on Facebook.
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I do have a video on my TH-cam channel showing how to operate the two step launch control and get it to work correctly
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I'm surprised that the variable ratio of the CVT doesn't mess with the readings on the dyno.
It does and so does all the sensors on the bike there's a lot you have to do in order to even put it on a dyno
That's cool. Gonna have to be made out of money if you guys keep coming up with stuff for this bike. It's like paying tuition. 🤣😂🤣
Interesting vid'. We're you also aware that the rear pegs have a sensor on them so when they are down they change the engine mapping to account for extra weight?
I just watched a Shaun Smoakes vid where he was explaining this.
When the rear pegs are down the bike is not allowed to go into sport mode or rally mode on the rally model...
There is no remapping being taken place it is simply disabling sport mode on the rally it disables rally mode as well nothing changes in the ECU
dude if you are going to interview some it might make to mic them up so you can hear them or stand closer to them
We weren't doing an interview we were running the bike on the dyno
Definitely like the exhaust, but I live in Florida and having the intake sticking out like that, would be scared to get caught in the rain (cause it rains here everyday in the summer) and hydro lock the engine. Done that to one of my cars before. Sucks.
I have rode mine in torrential downpours several times.. you can order the waterproof pre-filter that goes over the air filter it does not block any air flow and it makes the filter waterproof..
@@BLRTUNING true, as in my car it was in the lower bumper and went through a large puddle. As the ryker it sits higher. And cool to know those waterproof bag that goes over it doesn't let water in. Heard mixed things about those bags.
One of these days I'm going to have to think of upgrading increase horsepower but not quite yet. I did have a question though since you're in Washington state. I seen you have some underglow going on. Is that allowed in Washington I thought we couldn't have any light kits or anything like that?
No it is not allowed to ride on the street like that it would be illegal it's simply for show
We have all of our parts and accessories available on our website now so you can check everything out there. We also just added the pv3 for the ryker with option for custom tuning....
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you said it was done on stock tuning but you AFR has changed 17 to 15 are you adding fuel or is the computer adding that’s a huge difference
Nope nothing done to the bike other than the parts put on it so we're showing in real time in real life what it looks like when you do an exhaust and intake. As you can see the bike would be much better off if it was tuned so we always recommend anytime you're doing these parts you also need tuning to get the air to fuel ratio back to the correct specs.
So does this raise your top end speed any? I know these are limited as far as top speed goes, or is that something that has to be tuned?
So the top speed limit on these bikes on both the 900 and the rally is set to 104 mph in the ECU.. when it gets past that speed the ECU starts pulling ignition timing and fuel to try and slow you down. So yes you can get past it and many people have on the stock factory ECU but it'll feel as if you're hitting a wall and it's not allowing you to pick up speed like you think it should... Yes this will improve top speed but you're still going to hit that limiter in the ECU...
With custom tuning work which I do offer we can remove that top speed limiter in the ECU using the Dynojet pv3... It's part number pv3-25-11 on their website..
So far the fastest ryker that we've seen top speed wise with actual video proof is 113 mph..
While torque and 0 to 60 time can be improved tremendously top speed is definitely something that these bikes are not designed for. We are limited to the CVT transmission itself...
if you have any further questions I'd be more than happy to answer things as best I can you can message me through the blr tuning Facebook page...
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@@BLRTUNING awesome! Thank you so much for the details. I think that is plenty of speed before you start losing out on the safety value of these things. Love the Ryker too guys, looks awesome!
Happy ryding!
Do you know if there any warranty issues with Can Am when switching out from the stock exhaust?
We haven't seen anybody get their warranty voided yet from changing the exhaust just remember any modification to the bike whatsoever can void your warranty if a manufacturer or service center decides to tell you that because of your modification it is your fault that there is a problem. With the exhaust we have not seen any issues
I whish the ryker would get a manual transmission... I don't like the cvt but the ryker concept
I would like to see a dyno test of a Spyder f3 sport..with an ECU tune..and cat delete .I'm not the only one either who would like to see this...please do this for us.
we spent thousands of dollars lots of man-hours and three solid weeks of working on the Can-Am Ryker just to get it to be able to run on the dyno because of all of its sensors....
Renting out a dyno for the day is extremely expensive..
Most places charge around $200 an hour with a 2 hour minimum..
@@BLRTUNING I see...you did good work on the Ryker...but it would be interesting to see the Ryker do a Dyno run with a tune combined with your intake and exhaust...
@@josephgolden1565 as of right now it cannot be done.. in order to put it on the dynonot only do you have to mess with some of the sensors on board you also have to have the buds system plugged into the diagnostic port. You have to have a license for theBud system once you have that you have to put the bike into a specific mode using the buds system in order to run it on the dyno.. it's not a matter of just pulling the bike up on the dyno and making a pull... All of the different sensors will not allow you to do that... The thing with the buds system is it will only recognize a factory tune on the ECU. if we flash a different tune to the bike the buds system no longer recognizes the bike. Therefore we cannot put it into the specific mode in order to run it on the dyno... That is what's holding us back from doing a tune on the bike and running it on the dyno to show the power gains in a Dyno graph... we do know that we can tune the ryker no problem I can even build a custom map for your rykor if you own the pv3.. we know that it makes more power by tuning it just based on how it feels when you ride it... However at this moment in time until Dynojet figures out their research we cannot show these numbers of it being tuned on the dyno... we are doing more research and working closely with Dynojet to figure this out but as of right now it's simply cannot be done...
@@BLRTUNING bill, I have been studying the sensors that Can Am have been using since the 2007 Spyder and the original 2008 Spyders that were sold to the public there is a trick and you can make the computer believe anything that you want it to believe. The original ECUs were built by Bosch and were an off the shelf unit for autos. There were 4 wheel speed sensors two were on the rear wheel.
@@BLRTUNING Bill I know for a fact that yes it can be done because Can Am does it what I would say is we dont know how to do it right now. Can Am tests these things on Dynos all the time. From what I understand there may be hidden functions built into the BUDS software. What I want to know is, how did you get the BUDS license, and the software.
What has you gas mileage been like since the new intake and exhaust?
What about the F 3 ???? Got any good news on it??
I can do tuning work on that vehicle it just depends on the year make and model...
If you'd like further details please feel free to message me through the blr tuning Facebook page..
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Can we get a test with the intake, exhaust, headers without tune and with tune please?
Without the tune the bike runs extremely lean. These likes have to be custom tuned in order to run headers, intake and exhaust or any combination of these parts.
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@@BLRTUNING Roger that. Thanks man
how much more of a gain if you run the cat delete pipe with this setup?
This is a cat delete
oh thought it was just the muffler assembly.
It's a straight through design high performance muffler. No cat..
Will the exustusted work on a 600cc.
Not sure it hasn't been tested.. if the exhaust on the 600 is exactly the same as the 900 then yes
So did he actually tune it or just bolt on parts?
In this video we ran the bike on the stock factory tune just testing out parts. With a custom tune installed depending on what parts you're running obviously you can expect to see anywhere from 5 to 15 horsepower game. On average it's about a 10 horsepower game. Obviously this all depends on what parts are installed. For custom tuning you do need to have the Dynojet pv3 which we carry on our website. you can order it with a custom tune installed.
www.blrtuning.co/products/can-am-ryker-pv3-25-11-by-dynojet
Have you guys figure out how to turn off completly the traction control!!
No it cannot be done.. it is a setting that is in the e prompt area of the ECU which is not able to be controlled or messed with.. we can definitely make more power and there is definitely a lot of stuff that we can play with but traction control stability control and passenger detection are three of the main things in the prompt area that we would like to have access to but we do not.. if you are interested in me building a custom tune for your ryker please message me through Facebook messenger or Instagram direct message.
@@BLRTUNING Bill the Ryker Rally has the ability to turn nearly all of the stability/traction control off, so you can do rough riding off road and some wild drifting. I have ridden my Rally through the back woods around the Applichan mountains and that area of western North Carolina. Also the passenger detection is done by a magnetic switch when you put the passenger pegs in the down position, on my Rally edition it normally would disable the Rally mode, but a little persuasion and that can be fixed easily.
@@the1spyderryder still you are never able to turn off traction control completely. Not enough to do a poll on a Dyno under a load. When we are tuning using the pv3 from Dynojet which I build custom maps for,,, even in that software with complete access to the ECU there is no option to turn completely off traction control or stability control. Also yes you are correct the rear passenger detecting is done by a magnet however that sensor still talks to the ECU.... Which you also have no control over using the Dynojet pv3.. all of these items are located in what is called the e prompt area... We have 100% control over the rest of the ECU...
it can be done using the BUDS software....we even managed to turn off my EU torque limiter today via the BUDS...no reflash needed...all you need yo do is find what parameter that controls the TC but its all in there to be tweeked
So the ryker was down on power?? Stock bhp on the 900 should be 82
They measure their horsepower at the crank when the motor is out of the bike. So no I don't believe it was down on power... The numbers we showed would be pretty accurate for them to be measuring at the crank... All manufacturers measure horsepower at the crank unless specified at the wheel...
You lose quite a bit of horsepower through CVT transmission and drive shaft and rear final drive and then weight of the back wheel and everything else...
have you done a dyno run since the remap?
Unfortunately it takes a lot of manipulation to get the bike to run on the dyno.it cost us a lot of money and a lot of time to run it on the dyno. the bike also needs to remain plugged into the buds to system in order for it to even be ran on the dyno.. what this means is it can only be ran on the dyno on the stock factory tune vial as buds will not recognize a custom tune.. obviously we are working on ways to get around this and we tried multiple things and spend a lot of money doing so LOL.... So to keep the answer short.. NO WE HAVE NOT RAN IT ON THE DYNO AFTER THE TUNE.
However we do have a pretty good guess as to how much horsepower you can make based on GPS times and how the bike responds and feels.
I would say you can gain right around 20 horsepower on a completely stock Can-Am Ryker with a custom tune...
Exhaust intake air filter that type of thing.. or any high performance parts we can take advantage of those parts in the tune
@@BLRTUNING cheers I'm in UK and using buds we managed to switch off the European 0 to 50 mph torque limiter yesterday so no remap needed as others have said was the only way.... My next mod is a remap via dynojet hence why I was curious
Where can I get the brush guard and light bar?
I have a complete installation video on my TH-cam channel in the description below the video there is a link to go purchase it from slingmods.com
Here's the video
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@@BLRTUNING Thanks
Will you add a tune and post Dyno numbers?
As of right now due to the factory ECU you cannot test on the dyno with anything other than stock factory tune.. the ECU will not allow it as soon as you spend the back tire up the bike goes into limp mode instantly due to all the sensors.. we have to have the buds system plugged in while we are running on the dyno the buds system will only recognize a stock factory tune therefore you cannot run a custom tune on the dyno it simply won't work.. at least for now until we figure out something different..
@@BLRTUNING how lean is it running on a factory tune with the intake and exhaust?
@@ryanwalker3509 stock the bike wants to run at 14.7 AFR.. you add an intake and exhaust the ECU cannot compensate enough fuel ... You'll be running around 15 to 16 AFR... Eventually that will hurt the motor... If you purchase the Dynojet power vision 3 (pv3) I can build a custom tune that will work with the exhaust and intake.. you can look me up on Facebook messenger and we can talk more details about getting a custom tune...
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Is this the 600 twin?
Yes
Do I need body work for the intake
No you will be required to remove the factory air box...
I have a TH-cam video that will show you the installation process so you have a better understanding as to what you have to do...
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@@BLRTUNING how much is the intake and the performance exhaust to have it sent to NC
Looks about as fast as the grom..
This summer we will find out the answer to that exact question at the drag strip. We plan on racing both bikes this summer.. there will be plenty of video footage..
CVS ROBBING ALOT OF HP.
Yes
Really is no surprise, even auto transmissions in cars can lose 20%, the dyno showed 20% loss stock, then mods brought it back in line. With those mods engine hp would be around 100, not bad.
Embarrassing when you realize a stock Yamaha FZ09 triple 850cc makes 115 Hp
Remember these bikes will never compare to a two-wheeled motorcycle. It's a very unfair comparison. This bike has a CVT transmission it doesn't have gears to go through so all it does is wind out to Max RPM and that's it that's what you get. It's an entirely different ball game. Comparing it to a geared two-wheeled motorcycle is like comparing apples to oranges. Two totally different things...