The TRUTH About Directional Air Roll | Learn to Play Rocket League
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I've watched hundreds of hours of tutorials for this dumb game and this is the first truly cohesive explanation of why and when to use air roll that makes sense to me. So many others just say "make adjustments." It's not often I get excited to open up a training pack... well done.
Can't wait for you to see part 2!
@@Grifflicious niceeeeee
@@Grifflicious is part 2 titled: "Making adjustments with directional air roll" 🤣
I've the same feeling - I'm sure I've watched 99% of the DAR videos out there and Griff's last video has been my guide recently. This one definitely clears things up for me and gives me very specific, very tangible things to think about as I practice. The only negative thing I have to say is that I'm traveling this week so I won't be able to put this into practice until I'm home next week. 🙂
I'm super excited about the training pack - Looking forward to getting comfortable with it and then tackling part 2!!
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I really like the foundation style of learning and building up the skills here. I would really like to see this or a similar training pack like the Musty Speedflip Kickoff Test, which constrains the effectiveness of the most efficient path to the ball to create a true test I can take that gives very direct feedback. Not sure how that would be created for these types of scenarios, but something I've always wanted.
Best air roll tutorial I've seen by far. Advanced players (the teachers/video makers) often forget when teaching a new technique how it felt to learn with zero experience and knowledge. The way you break down the training and pack starting as simple as possible is extremely useful. Progression of skill application and difficulty is absolutely key. Hopping in and jumping straight into a wall-to-air dribble pack is overwhelming and super inefficient to practice. Thanks for the tips!
Update. After training up to 48% for a couple hours
Making sure I score consistently for every shot to move on.
I can confidently say it all makes sense now. I feel so enlightened. I was able to figure out shots you didn't go over because the ones you did went a long way. I was pulling out car control I didn't know I had or could achieve.
Thank you man. Can't wait for part 2 for further training and knowledge!
that's so beautiful
Can u coach me
i know you posted this a while ago, but for shot 5 do you have any extra tips you found for getting that second touch and a more controlled first touch?
Help me please 😢😢😢😢
You know someone knows the subject when hard things look simple. Mate you broke it down to what really matters. That’s awesome help. Congrats and all the success to you. Thanks for sharing your knowledge 🙏
It’s my pleasure! Thank you for the kind words.
In the follow up you need to mention how important facing the ball is (both on ground and off the wall) before pushing through for air dribbles/hits. I think a lot of diamond and even champs dont do this well and when you get to the higher level that second or 2 is long enough to get beat in the air. This is something small but it makes a big difference and is essential for reaching GC and up. As always great vid. Look forward to more content.
Definetly yes.. Im basically GC1 Id say.. (hard to say after this seasons weird reset and those crazy mixed Champ Lobbys.) But yeah especially against good and faster players you notice instantly how much of a difference a perfect, decent or bad first touch does.. and by bad I dont mean losing control just having it to far away from you.
Thanks for sharing 🤘🤘
Bro please explain….currently a D2 who is trying to master ground/balls bouncing air dribbles.
Let's go, I'm ready to take notes.
Another in depth look at a mechanic. Not just glossing over things.
Appreciate your work. Keep it up. Looking forward to part two.
Thank god , a player who actually coaches and gives viable tips unlike that spookluke guy. Keep up the good work. as a mechanical SSL player I can say I agree with pretty much everything stated in this video.
THIS VIDEO IS AMAZING. No joke this should go into the rocket league archives. Not only did you break down DAR but you provided a step by step training pack that anyone can use. WELL DONE
Thank you so much! Let's hope part 2 hits the same way!
@@Grifflicious so many training packs I've tried just doing random things to score or block or whatever and end up practicing bad habits. Knowing what I'm supposed to do is clutch, thanks!
Except it's really not. That is to say that it doesn't give a good answer on how to learn DAR. He basically says he was wrong in his last video and the way he taught people to learn it, which is by using a single joystick input to learn to turn the car is way too limited, which is correct. Then he gives no alternative learning method for DAR.
The map he created is NOT going to help you learn DAR. Most of the stuff he showed in the first few shots especially can be done just as well with regular air roll, but that's not even the point. He told you to 'practice' your DAR on these shots, especially the later ones. But how are you supposed to practice actually hitting/carrying a ball or even HITTING A DOUBLE TAP when you can't even keep the car up when using DAR because you just started learning it? This is a good map if you already can control your car quite well and turn any way you want. The bullshit he says about not practicing in ring maps is not true at all. You're never gonna learn how to control the car when you don't even isolate the learning DAR part, you have to be focused on not only just moving your car in a direction you want, but also carrying/hitting the ball at the same time. This will absolutely stagger your progress at learning car control using DAR. First actually learn to control the car using DAR, then start practicing shots like these.
IS THERE A PART 2!?
Your videos are so good 😭😭
Well turns out i wasted 100 hours of my life and still dont know and cannot airroll at all 0 nothing ...:(
I love someone who is willing to teach something that they themselves have not mastered yet, its like "here this is what my brain has figured out" delivered in the best word choice ive ever heard from any video trying to teach something, its not through spagetti at a wall and see what sticks type of method. this is showing people to slow down the game is not that fast paced even tho it is fast paced we take it faster than necessary
Did the training pack change? I liked it much more yesterday than today. I was making progress on it last night, now it is just a bunch of shots and I dont even know what I am supposed to be doing in regards to air roll for the most part. Any way you can explain them?
Amazing video, commented, liked, and subscribed. Looking forward to the next one!
Helpful training pack. I hit a shot just like one in the training. I posted it if you want to see.
Hello. I just got d1 and i see in my games that i need this mechanic but i cant do it at all. So i went in traning and practicing air roll is the most awful thing i ever done. Do you have any tip to train this while playing ? Thank you very much, i hope i will be able to spin like you one day…
this is so hard
Literally
I’m bout to crash out 😅
I felt like i have had the same level in this game for three years now, only getting more consistent. This for the first time feels like it enables me to reach a higher ceiling. Truly great tutorials, I'm surprised by how well you understand the "why". I never came across that information.
i definitly agree with this. I started learning AirRoll Right with rings map but it just created bad habits like always spinning like a fckin beyblade in the air without knowing why. That's the right way for me to start learning airol for the beginners. great vid !
Definitely a mechanic that requires lots of hours. Something important I realized is to have full control learning how to fly the car while backwards and sides helps with this training as well.
I've played 3000 hours, 1500 training, and am in Diamond 1
100%, sideways not as important as backwards imo, but if you can't fly backwards you definitely aren't ready for spinning
@@christiantaylor1495 which mode?1v1?
@@christiantaylor1495learn game sense then, watch spookluke
I think im gonna give this a try. As a console player, it felt like learning this mechanic was a pipe dream due to no hoops maps. But this made it seem possible
Hows it going now?, im on console too and feel a bit hopeless too
@hammondgurka I definitely recommend you try this out. Watch the video along with the training pack and it literally teaches you what you need to get started.
I've been waiting for a part 2 video to cover some more about it but may not need it. After a bit of training, your body just naturally picks up the rhythm and motions needed to perform. Just a note, don't get too addicted because you prone to whiffing the ball more than you need to lol
Wow, great work bro !! Finally a video that actually helps me, instead of just someone showing off. Keep up the awesome vids.
Can anyone answer this question please? I use air roll left and after hundreds of videos y still don’t have the answer. The question is when you air roll and you want to go left, I know that you have to move the joystick bottom left and if you want to go right you go top right. My question is if your cat is mid air roll and you can see the back of your car (the wheels) do you invert the movements. Meaning that to go right instead of top right you go bottom right I just wanted to know if this is true. My other question is imagine you are facing completely upwards and the ball is below you (while air rolling) how do you IMMEDiately start going downwards with full force. I usually use the reverse tornado spin but like it does not face down completely it does not make your car look and go towards the floor directly so how would you do this?? IF SOMEBODY ANSWERS I LOVE YOU thanks.
I brute forced it. It was the fastest way for me
I'm addressing this in part 2. On the whole, I don't believe it's a "wrong" way to learn it, I just don't think it works for everyone. I'm glad you were able to figure it out that way!
@@Grifflicious I started off with your method and it was a good intro to it
But, eventually I had to stop thinking about what I was doing and just let my brain subconsciously absorb what was happening
Video is on point and I think it explains air roll way better than most. Instead of focusing on visual charts using "theory", it details why, how, and the _practical_ applications. This is top tier content, coming from a former SSL and former RL coach ♥♥
This is a great tutorial. When I first played this game in 2016, I initially disliked the way that advanced players seemingly freestyled their shots using air rolls, but I realized that they just had numerous hours of practice. So I focused more on the practical aspects: What is the best and efficient way to score this shot? And if it involved air rolls, then I made sure to utilize them well in a game sense. The downside of this is what will most commonly be seen or played in a match, it may not be enough for unconventional situations where I have to control my car in a certain way in the air to score a very specific shot. I know what needs to happen to score a goal, but my mechanics aren't up to par with my game sense-- which is why practicing mechanics is really important even if it's boring!. I don't play that much any more, but I always respect and admire the skill that these players have nowadays for the amount of hours they put in.
Thanks for the video! It really made me think of the times I poured my time into this game practicing the mechanics that interested me and remembering that feeling of finally pulling them off in a live match.
Dude you have changed the way I play I literally spent 100 plus on training and watching tutorials but you where the first one to truly help me under stand on how you only do it on adjustments before I did it the whole aerial instead of just adjusting my car to the right position and you helped me understand which point of contact on the car to head for getting a certain angle and you taught me what you practice since I have always been told ring, Mabs I never put this map into consideration. Thank you so much.
You're most welcome! I'm glad it could help.
2:55 bruh this comment is so funny about the cart corral. I’ve been a cart pusher for Walmart for 6 months now and it’s the most annoying thing when people don’t put the fking carts where there supposed to go and it’s even funnier when they are a parking spot right next the corral they still put it in the grass or leave it in the parking spot.
how would we know the secret of car control is actually hitting balls upside down... great vid, waiting for part 2.
hey man, great video!
i've been using this pack for about 2 weeks now and i am really starting to improve.
The way you break it down just makes so much sense.
Im really looking forward to pt2 and checking your channel daily hoping its out.
keep it up:)
Thank you SO much! I'm champ in 2v2, but have always thought that turning around and directing the ball before I shoot will be SO hard to do. Getting shot 3 on my first try was an eye opener! :D
Excellent video, much better than the typical garbage of 'this is a tornado spin, do rings maps' for learning air roll
ur audio on ur mic is so crisp it's like porn to my earns. mmmh. I appreciate the effort teaching us this topic. Now, time to pracc!
I have been wondering why i lose control everytime i come in contact with the ball i would test my joystick its a weird way without realising this helped me alot ❤
For some reason, shot 5 is not aligned I think. I've only got the same hit as you once in like a bajillion. Yes i'm bad, but i'm trying to learn.
PLEASE HELP ME
For years and years I have been trying to learn how to air roll but the thing is I just don’t understand the explanations, they just don’t click. So I have a couple of questions I need to get answered. The first one is imagine I want to move to the right while air rolling, do I only hold my left stick to the right when the car is facing forward or do I also hold the stick to the opposite side (left) when the car is facing backwards??? Another question I have is how do you people move so quickly from like one side to the other when air rolling it’s like you see a ball is far to the left and you just air roll and you reach the ball as quickly as if you weren’t. I feel like when I air roll I take a long time to get to the ball if it is in the air and on the left or right. This might be because I only move my stick when the car is facing forward (to the opposite net) I don’t know if I should move the stick around at all times if I want to move left. If I do have to move the stick around at all times where should I move the stick to when the car is facing at the opposite net and when the car is facing If I want to move left??? Thank you for your time.
They’re able to get to a ball fast by doing a jump boost (Pressing X again but with no directional input with the thumbstick while boosting) and also pointing the nose of the car to the ball.
And moving right depends on which directional air roll you use, and whether or not your car is inverted or not, for air roll right I believe it’s holding down left or down right on your car while it’s in a neutral position and not inverted in the air while also holding boost until your car is inverted, to which then you let go of the thumbstick but still hold down directional air roll while feathering the boost now
Do you think it’s a bad idea to learn/use regular air roll and get a feeling for everything spinning that way? Or should I be using directional more?
Already waiting for the next part, this video really helped
why is the pack in the description different than the video for me?
Nevermind it was a bakkesmod setting
Thank you from the bottom of my heart! I was looking up redirects when this came up. It makes sense. More than all other tutorials on this topic! It takes it one small step from zero. Thank you again and again and again. Subbed and gotta train on these then go watch part 2!
I'm so happy to hear this helped you! I look forward to hearing about your journey and I hope you'll keep me posted as your progress!
I really liked the video but when I tried the map myself in freeplay the order of the shots was messed up and the ball wasn't freezing above the net like in the video. I am on pc so maybe some weird bakkesmod plugin? Any help would be appreciated😩
Yeah, make sure you have "custom variance" in the Training tab turned off.
Air roll is mechanic that's not necessary to win but it looks SOO MUCH FUN. The only reason I want to learn it is to enjoy it. Please keep up the good work. You're doing a great job, thanks to you I am getting closer to understanding it.
tysm griff, wallahi this is so useful, can't wait to jump right in :D
Good video Griff. Curious though.. loaded up your training pack and it appears that shot 2 is now shot 17? I have bakkesmod completely off so that's not an issue. They seem out of order.
hmm, not sure about that one. I'll have to double check when I get home.
@@Grifflicious Appreciate the training pack either way. Just wanted to let you know what I was seeing for the sake of others.
new grifflicious? i’m ready to learn
What’s awesome about this is I finally started getting decent at the principles from your original video. I love how you’re answering questions that I’ve sort of formulated on my own over the hours played. Thanks for helping me air roll left bro
You’re most welcome. Happy to have you along for the journey!
I've been saying this for a long time. Rings are great to get the muscle memory down but learning to use DAR efficiently is something else.
I figured it out in defensive training packs when your car is positioned is way you can only save the shot if you use precise DAR.
Ooo, I like that! May I borrow that!?
Wow I wish I had this when I started RL will be useful getting back into it
Great video! Looking forward for part 2.
This has helped me alot lol im not that mechanical but scoring lots more double taps
Spookluke sent me here and I’m glad he did u just earned ur self a sub👍
Thing with air roll is that you cant learn it from watching videos. You can get an ''idea'' but so far I've seen no one explain it right. I fully understand air roll and not even I can explain how it works. All I can say is that one day it clicked and I saw my car in a whole other dimensional way.
One hint I would like to tell people is to not only practice rings. Only use rings to get the idea right, use bakkesmod to slow your car down so your brain can actually comprehend what's going on and what changes on whatever input youre doing. Once you get the idea start doing training packs because guess what... knowing how to air roll in rings, you'll see how it doesnt work the same way going for balls using air roll.
UHHHHHH>>>>>> ABSOLUTLY BRILIANT!!!!! This is the best directional air roll video ever.
One of the best videos on DAR, if not the best. I'm fairly competent with most things but struggled with DAR. Your small breakdowns makes so much sense. Please continue to make training packs for other stuff with the smaller incremental steps.
Is there a setting to make the ball stay still until I hit it like Griff does in this video?
Are you using BakkesMod?
Yes sir
I'm having the same issue. I'm also using BakkesMod. Also, the shots are not in order. It's like someone hit "shuffle" on the playlist. Thanks
Thank you,@@Grifflicious . I was racking my brain trying to figure out why the ball kept falling XD. Great vid! Got a sub from me!
just back to say ill be usin this training pack everyday, basically relearning directional input to be more deliberate with my inputs till the deliberation becomes automatic and smooth :D
This is probabaly one of the best videos I've seen explaining the use of the air roll,it's nice demonstrating and explaining exactly how to do the adjustments rather than just trhing to figure it out yourself.
I am not a really fan of training pack like these due to the idea of trial and error from the simple fact I dont know how to but the simple yet effective explanation makes me want to try it
Thank you.
As someone who typically watches a tutorial and clicks off, and is decent enough to be champ 3.. easily the best tutorial I’ve ever seen. Please continue making these
This dude explains extremely well, before seeing it already has my like
Thank you! A much needed progressive training pack WITH an intro explanation of how to start and progress the shots!
I have been playing since 2016 and this actually useful
Can confirm rings maps doesn't really translate to game... I started playing them a couple weeks ago to work on ariel control (I don't air roll them yet other than for small adjustments) and I have improved a ton at the rings maps, but my rank is still exactly where it was before...
Love your videos, hit my first proper backboard double tap today after watching your previous air roll videos! Commenting to help get it to others who need some help.
Let's GO! Stoked to hear it, dude!
What skin is on the octane? I want to get one if possible before the trade window closes! Thanks for the amazing tutorial I’m starting to get the hang of DAR on rings after being initially discouraged I can’t wait to dig into this pack and start building better habits.
Marred Shard, I believe.
@@Grifflicious Thank you sir!
Update, 80% completed
Shots 20, 21 and 24 are a mystery to me.
*i figured out 14 and 15 as i was typing this
Im having less and less black out moments when air rolling
Cant wait for part 2!
im confused, when i load the training pack up the ball placement isn’t close to the same as shown in the video please help
If you're using BakkesMod, It's in the "TRAINING" tab. There's boxes for shot variance, as well as automatic shuffle.
My ball moves so its not the same as your pack? for example ball 1 falls? can i fix this somehow?
Turning off custom training variance through bakkesmod.
Why hasn't this channel blown up yet!!! 😂
Anither fantastic video my guy, keep up the amazing work 👏 👌
AND MORE VIDEOS PLEASE 🙏
Between this video, and the 2 hour lecture on Directional Air Roll, I may finally learn how to use this well and improve. After nine fucking years
As always you come out with thr best educational videos!
And it seems like you finally have gotten some well deserved traction
Also, shot 7 looks so easy when pro players are air dribbling all the way with 3 flip resets and a musty at the end
This tutorial is hands down one of the best I've ever seen! Would love to see your tutorials for other mechanics and for getting better at this game in general!
Wow, great tutorial ! I've been struggling for months with learning air roll. After watching this i started hitting shots in an air roll left training pack I've been failing miserably at for awhile now lol. The getting inverted part really helped make air rillong click a little better for me. Just gotta clean a few things up and hopefully I can pull some of these shots in game! Awesome content man. Thanks 🙏🙏
You’re most welcome! I’m excited to see how you progress!
Oh shit, I think the skill floor of RL is about to skyrocket
Don't know man, you somehow got your story telling on point and I also really like the way your voice sounds while you are explaining. Keep it going with the detailed stuff and please go against the meta stream. There are so many guides out there, however, they don't really go into depth of how to and what controls to use and also don't explain the action you are about to do.
Keep it going :)
love the congrats youve just unlocked double taps.
Loved the video. When I used the training pack code for DAR training the ball shots are different and they immediately start falling so I can't follow your recommendations for the different progression of shots since the ball drops immediately when I start. Am I missing something to allow me to follow your drills from the start and progressively work on DAR like you demonstrate with each of the shots?
are you using BakkesMod?
@@Grifflicious Yes. I know how to select shots but I don’t know how to make the balls stay put so that when I start, it doesn’t fall immediately.
@@MrApologik Then you'll want to press "F2", make sure you have shot variance turned off on the custom training tab.
Awesome stuff. A few days ago I figured out that I could just air roll and tilt my car forward or back to get shots that I couldn't before, but I just barely had it. I just finished the training pack and I feel like I'm reaching enlightment. Nice work :)
As soon as you showed your training pack where you have us practice simply rotating the car I was like wow this mans a genius. Now my brain can learn what it looks like to rotate and hit the ball at different angles
Hey man great video! I think these tips really help out the newcomers of AR. However, i can see you have some grinding to do before you have mastered it yourself. There are plenty more scenarios where AR is beneficial. Looking forward to other vids! Keep up the good work!:)
am i using wrong training pack?
The game is fixed with inline algorithms, the main source of this fix is based on the algorithms which determine your playability whilst online, using the conventions of CSTS (Continuous Sim Time Scaling) and STS (Sim Time Scaling) which determine, and predict key presses within the game. They say this is to control the network latency but in fact, the control of key inputs and registry of these inputs are solely in the discretion of the server and its algorithm. This why only a small percentage of players ever reach SSL and majority of players hang between the Plat, Diamond ranges. The game has been specifically designs to only allow a certain percentage of players to become SSL, Grand Champion, etc keep the majority within the middle tiers for extra income and Hugh revenue profits. Now, nobody would play the game, if all players reach SSL, this is their strategy and this why, you lose games and your rank changes dramatically, unless you're a select few within the Top Tier, of GC3 or SSL.
Yo this was so simple to follow and understanding that the purpose of air roll is to recover from a bad trajectory and not just to look fancy really opened my eyes to use it only when needed. Thanks for taking the time to make this Griff it is a great video!
Glad it helped!
Thank you, you made me understand a lot!
Now I'ma go practice:D
I think I commented on your original video saying something like "this finally made it click for me". Using 1 directional input worked for getting through a lot of the rings map, but I can't get to the ball at all. It feels like I'm almost starting again training myself to use DAR with more than 1 directional input, and the only way I've found to train it so far was to just try incorporating into training packs with aerial shots. I'll be waiting eagerly for part 2!
so glad I found your channel. I recently started playing the game 2-3 months ago, and have been hard stuck at gold 3. fast forward 2 weeks and ive just hit my first proper air dribble yesterday. keep it up! subbed.
as someone who’s been using free air roll up until diamond i think this tutorial will help me understand how to get into using DAR, thank you
As a gc2 3s player I highly support this tutorial. I've seen too often people over adjusting and whiffing because they whizzed right past a ball or couldn't manage to readjust after air rolling way too much while not knowing or having mastered it.
i learned the complete backwards way. I learned how to do a lot with regular air roll. I'm trying to learn directional air roll now to help learn reset setups, and help certain aerial adjustments become more consistent. I feel like I'm a bronze with no thumbs again
Best air roll tutorial, the part where you say don’t use left side of the stick much helped me so much, now I can hit cool air dribbles
What a video bud. Great job cohesive yet challenging. Showing how to go from gold to mid diamond real easy here. Keep it up i will be subscribing
So good you earned yourself a sub thx bunches😊
sir. honestly, words cannot properly convey how game changing both this, and your vid from last year have been for me. Thank you.
Griff. You’ve opened my eyes completely. I’m extremely greatful for this vid I’m so eager for part 2. I felt as if you personally teaching me how to become better. Thank you! All the love and respect💯💯
Part ii please! Loved your thoroughness.
So.. rings is the entry point. I can see it with your car through rings. You should use air roll only to correct. You should try to be close to wr times on rings or pr times. The goal is always speed. If you can’t keep supersonic and air roll the whole time you are not being efficient and you are tapering the effect rings training has on your gameplay. You need to move to boost management and car control beat your times on rings then move to Dacia spring. Move from dribble 2 overhaul to eversac’s. Master those and gg you are ssl I also recommend air dribble gauntlet for those wanting to push it.
To be honest this looks like a really good video and that with the sound off, cos the wife is asleep next to me. Anyway, I watched this thinking, huh, im going to give it ago. Firstly, I'll watch it with sound and then give it ago. I'm not feeling positive cos it never turns out as good in game as I think it will in my mind. Great video.
Hype is real🔥🔥🔥❤️🚗 ⚽️
Heyo excited about this one. I've come so far since your last video, and I'm ready to add some spice to it.
as an ssl with over 9000 hours on the game, i can confidently say that you are coming on these videos with an unjustified attitude of expertise and trying to teach others how to do something that you yourself are not even close to mastering. many things you say are true, but an equal number are untrue, which are which seems to just be randomly selected by your intuition which has not fully developed due to lack of the experience neccessary. I hope you keep making cool videos but i also hope you take a more humble and simple aproach to what you teach people to do, and not to keep making assumptions and extrapolations because while they may seem logical to you, they are flawed because of reasons you do not yet know
Well, I try and vet my information with higher skilled/ranked players as much as possible. I do my research, (as much as I possibly can), but that doesn't mean I get everything perfect. Regardless, I try and be as humble as possible when I'm unsure of something and if I'm sure of something, I'm much more confident in relaying that information.
I say all that to ask, if there is something I'm getting wrong, would you be interested on elaborating? Perhaps having a call to discuss points of contention? If I'm wrong, I want to know I'm wrong and why. So please, if you're willing, I'd like to chat with you about it.
@@Grifflicious I think your comment section has been deleting my replies because disc acc sharing is banned here, let me know how I can get in contact. Ill say what I said there quickly, just that your facts are correct but your explenation for why directional air roll is useful and your methods of training are not. I'd be happy to explain in more detail if you are interestd
@@Draco-jk3rb Grifflicious#4488
@@Grifflicious cool, added
Very helpful video. I'm going to practice with that training pack later.