The Best Turntable Cartridge Under 100$

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    Which will win?! All phono cartridges under 100$ compared and reviewed in one video. Cartridges include: AT95E, Grado Black, Grado Green, Nagaoka MP-100, Ortofon OM5E, Ortofon 2M Red, Shure M92E, Shure M97xE, Sumiko Oyster
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  • @markanquoe2612
    @markanquoe2612 5 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    Of all the cartridge comparisons I have seen on TH-cam, this is by far the most effective. Going step by step up, and then comparing the #1 to the one we started with, was really eye opening. Thank you for all your work. I'd love to see something similar with under $200 cartridges.

  • @juddery
    @juddery 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fantastic video. The best I've found for directly comparing how different cartridges sound, with no unnecessary twaddle. Just the facts and the sound, (or as much as possible on youtube). Keep up the good work.

  • @davepoplin
    @davepoplin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you so much for your cartridge comparisons. They have helped me decide to go with a Rega/AT and eventually a Nagaoka. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge!

  • @vcp93
    @vcp93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It's difficult to do good audio review or comparison videos on TH-cam, but you did a very good job. I also agree with the majority of your rankings. Excellent work. 👍

  • @dhanukadesilva9112
    @dhanukadesilva9112 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the way how you have arrange the entire story on how you recommend each of this. Great!

  • @RumbleFish69
    @RumbleFish69 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video! I recently purchased a Nagaoka MP200 and as I am sure you know, this is a top-drawer cartridge. Still, I have another turntable and I need a good cartridge that is affordable and this video helped! Thanks again!

  • @ddotcdot6892
    @ddotcdot6892 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Excellent video and channel. I got out of restoring and flipping vintage tables (mostly Denons and Technics) right around the time your channel must have shown up. The only other guy doing decent cartridge comparisons was Joe Collins (Bad Edit Pro) and he was a huge source of reference for what carts to buy, although I ended up just ponying up the cash and trying everything from $19-129 myself at the time.
    Your rank is dead on, although there’s a couple on your list that I never tried or weren’t available during my time with this 2011-2016...but given I did get to hear a random T4P Sumiko Blue Point that I got by accident, and regrettably sold (as it sounded amazing), I would imagine your rank is still spot on.
    I personally never liked Grado sound, at all. (The only one really worth a damn was the John Grado Gold - for easier listening and warmer albums). It’s fitting that you placed all of the grados in the beginning and even mentioned the amazing little CN5625AL, which for the money, was a giveaway and sounded amazing. The stereo-separation was beyond almost every other cart I’d ever heard well into over $100...unfortunately, the lack of high end is what places it at its price point - but that’s ok - it has its place!
    The AT95E, to me, was a thin, almost unnatural or artificial sounding mid-range performer. Although I agree with where you placed it, I personally hated it. Where it filled in high end the CN5625AL didn’t have, it artificially colored everything else in a way that lacked the warmth of its lesser-priced sibling. I would argue the AT92ECD was a better option than the AT95E for about the same money.
    The Ortofon 2MRED looked cool, and seemed cool, but once I heard it against the Audio-Technica AT-120E and AT-440MLa/b I was over it. It served it’s purpose. It pushed into spending over $100 on other carts and I don’t regret having tried it, but ultimately let it go. The OM/OMP series has a much better sound in my opinion and I’m back to having an OMP for my P-mount, another type I should have never gotten rid of the first time.
    Totally love the Shures. Hands down, totally agree with where you placed them. The M92E (of which I have an original version with silver, not black, body) and the M97xE were always underpriced for what they gave. Will miss Shure for sure!
    Although I have graduated to the +$100-$300 range since, I still have both Shures and wish I had kept the CN5625AL for occasional simpler needs. Since I got the AT-120E and AT-440MLa and MLbs and was so happy with their sound for the price, I stopped there. I had tried some moving coils - Denon DL-110, 160, 80MC, and the Sumiko Blue Point which I liked a lot, but both of those MM ATs outperformed the MCs I tried and I decided there was no point in spending more money on the 2MBLUE and other more expensive moving coils or moving magnets I was eyeing, when I was not super impressed by moving coils in general and so displeased with the 2MRED and turned off by the crazy prices of its bigger siblings.
    I use the 440MLa or MLb for digitizing LPs, mostly, or for tracking pieces with really difficult passages. I use the AT-120E for typical listening on the big machine, and I use the Ortofon OMP for my little T4P player. I also switch back and forth to my Shure M92E on the T4P for a different sound and the M97xE for another sound in place of the AT-120E and have actually used it to digitize a few albums that it really shined with in a way the other just didn’t. It has a warmth that cannot be matched with certain albums. It doesn’t suffer from the artificial thinness or overly bright high end that others can sometimes over-pronounce. At the end of the day picking one favorite is impossible, but the ones I have now I have for a reason - and they are all my favorite. I don’t need any others. The AT-120E is probably the all around go-to stylus, but that M97xE has a special place in my ear’s heart too. Again, they each have a purpose and that’s why I have the ones I mentioned.
    Keep up the great channel and thanks for keeping the hobby alive! I miss being more active in it.

  • @paulwalker6297
    @paulwalker6297 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Ortofon AT31e cartridge in its day was excellent, and very often overlooked. It tracked superbly well, created minimum surface noise, didn't exaggerate vinyl damage (clicks & pops etc), and provided many years of pleasure in my Technics SL1200 fitted with a Linn Basik Plus tone-arm and a custom arm base plinth. Although few people regard the Technics as being anywhere near an "audiophile" product, it offered great service and listening pleasure, with absolutely nothing going wrong. No belts to stretch and change, very good shock resistance, instant start up, no "noise" transmitted via the arm and cartridge, in fact, a great all round turntable. In closing, I would note that some time ago, a good friend purchased an 'upgraded' Technics SL1200 unit modified by TIMESLIP, a company based in Devon. The numerous changes they made most certainly did make subtle listening changes and differences to mine. I'm not 100% sure about the arm they use, but it was certainly much more 'engineered' and substantial than the Linn. However, having said that, the total package did cost alot more than mine !
    In conclusion, I'm still more than happy to 'live' with my set up as it suits me fine. I would however note that although the TIMESLIP set-up did undoubtedly offer more insight & depth to some recordings, overall I wasn't left with the feeling that I must rush out and spend more money - well not just yet anyway !

  • @fredjohnson9856
    @fredjohnson9856 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have only lived with the Shure M97 and the Ortofon 2M Red. I found the M97 to be analytical, detailed but cold. The 2M was warmer, more musical. Both sound good and it would be a matter of taste and equipment. I'm using an old David Hafler phono preamp with the 2M Red and I am constantly thrilled by the music. Thanks for the videos.

  • @pioferro
    @pioferro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! I own several carts, the Shure m97xe w/ the Jico stylus is up there w/ the best I own from Dynavector, Soundsmith and Nagaoka. I absolutely love this cart / stylus combo.

  • @GeneSavage
    @GeneSavage 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I loved the way you did this video!!! Especially the "instead of this, I would recommend..." You have a new subscriber.

  • @electricwally
    @electricwally 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much. Nice to hear an unbiased opinion. Doesn't each cartridge produce a different sound on other different systems? We would all have to have the same turntable, preamp, poweramp, speakers, ears and same brain ad yourself to possibly agree? However, what I learned from your video is that higher price does not necessarily mean better sound on a particular system (at least in cartridges under $100). I trust your opinion and appreciate learning about the top contenders in that price range. That is the best lesson learned! Thanks again!

  • @kroilito
    @kroilito 4 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    "Rega Carbon" that cartridge will always make me laugh. It is nothing but a AT3600 which you can get by far less money. Don't get ripped off by audiofools!

    • @zimone89
      @zimone89 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@OKuusava that "dress" is the best expensive piece of wood i've ever seen XD

    • @socksumi
      @socksumi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. They tack on the name Linn, Rega, Shelter or Sumiko and double to triple the price.

    • @idontsmile666
      @idontsmile666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had a rega carbon on my p1 when I brought it, it was decent enough but when It wore out I swapped it with a at95e which improved the sound and it is still on there.

    • @p.m.2312
      @p.m.2312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I mean, in the video we hear that the bass is more blurry is the Audio technica. I know Rega asks for a modification in the ST before rebranding it. And I think it makes up for a clearer bass and low mid sound. It is very obvious in the video and a decent pair of headphone.
      But, most other choices are still a better bang for the buck.

    • @cjmillsnun
      @cjmillsnun 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@p.m.2312 The carts and styli are identical apart from the branding. The only modification Rega asks for is their name printing on it.

  • @Danthehorse
    @Danthehorse 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I would go along with a lot fo your findings that for sure, bit shocked the Oyster placed so high, and Grado so low, Also, im no fan of budget Ortofons, never any upper bass power imho, but.... Very useful video comparison indeed buddy, thanks.

  • @high_fidelity_stuff
    @high_fidelity_stuff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, Great video! The Grado Green sounds so boomy compared to the Shure M97xE but that's only when compared together. I also think the Nagaoka MP110 also sounds a bit harsh next to the Ortofon 2m Red which is probably where my ears differ to yours. I do however think all of the cartridges in this video sound good.

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The Shure M97xe, if you can even find one, now sells for $325 at LP Gear (plus tax and shipping). Nagaoka cartridges have almost tripled in price where I'm from in Canada.
    Listen to how far we've come!

    • @socksumi
      @socksumi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's now been jacked to $550 at LP Gear. Those guys are bandits.

  • @nickcoklan3491
    @nickcoklan3491 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I'd recommend the mp 110. It replaced an AT91 and was a significant upgrade. I've also tried a Grado Blue which had a nice tone, but had an annoying hum at high volumes and the mp 110 tracks a bit better. The Shure is nice though and can take Jico styli.

  • @PurpleDreki
    @PurpleDreki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice review! I would put the top three as equal! I really have enjoyed your hard work and great effort to get good comparisons of the styli/cartridiges.

  • @andrea4809
    @andrea4809 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for this video!! great job! i made my choice, the oyster.

  • @dannym7901
    @dannym7901 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great work on this video. Wish I had watched it before buying. Was surprised at how well the Rega Carbon sounded, was competitive with some others at a higher price.

  • @MrAlvarochahin
    @MrAlvarochahin 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for doing this, great work

  • @giancarlogiaccone9021
    @giancarlogiaccone9021 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My cartridge of choice is Shure M92E also for the sound definition at 1,25 g of tracking weight. A good way to preserve aged and rare records.

  • @DamajaCJ
    @DamajaCJ 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Perfect review vid! Short and to the point, with clear recommendation and reasons. If only all reviews did the same (instead of waffling on and on and then concluding with the ubiquitous "...it depends... You decide" 🙄😤

  • @chris-8092
    @chris-8092 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a very good video comparison. I have a late Shure M97XE (elliptical stylus) this cartridge is a little heavier than normal and it proved difficult to balance the tonearm so I had to attach an auxiliary weight to the end of the main balance weight on my vintage Technics DD turntable. After I attached that the tonearm balanced well. The tracking was incredibly good, the sound had good clear detail, no humming, delivered flawless playback (no sound distortion through my large floor speakers with double 12 inch woofers) and even greater accuracy to tracking with even the most stubborn spots on those dreadful very thin late 1970s-1980s LPs which had a tendency to skip even without any scratches. Skipping was eliminated completely with the Technics auxiliary weight. I wanted to compare the tracking of these cartridges myself, so I've played the same troublesome LP on other turntables with other brands of new cartridges eg. Audio Technica with elliptical stylus but the Shure M97XE was the clear winner because the AT cartridge just wasn't as highly accurate in tracking (it skipped track on the same spot) where as the Shure M97XE continued to track more accurately without any skipping of tracks. I was very disappointed to read that Shure had ceased manufacturing all of it's phono cartridges and stylus replacements. I could cry.

  • @bpabustan
    @bpabustan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    the p-mount Shure M92E is an excellent value for money. I highly recommend that for those on a tight budget.

  • @mikeformato8655
    @mikeformato8655 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I am VERY surprised that Grado didn't make it higher on the list. After many cartridges I have come to the conclusion that Grado is my choice. Currently I have a Grado black @ $75 or so on an old Arriston transcription table and it sounds great!

  • @dmtdgptlqm
    @dmtdgptlqm 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, congratulations, very good video. I bougth a reloop 200MK2 turntable and it comes with a ortofon cartidge I suposed is the OM5E. Very happy with it. Best regards.

  • @mynameistechno
    @mynameistechno 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nice video on a interesting price range for cartridges (my range for sure). thanks!

  • @planpirat
    @planpirat 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Now I'm confused, but:
    Thank you very much for confusing me, great comparison and very helpfull!

  • @giannatroi2537
    @giannatroi2537 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best information, greatly appreciated!

  • @rafacq
    @rafacq 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just found your video and immediately subscribed.
    I have an original M95ED in a Technics SL-3300 turntable. It had been sitting in my closet for over 30 years! I recently pulled it out and gave it a nice cleaning (lots of dust accumulated over the years). I ordered a new record brush and needle cleaning kit. I pulled my old albums and found my original "Best of Bread" Vinyl. Gave it a light cleaning and was surprised how clean the sound was. Barely any clicks nor static sounds. Just the sweet warm sound of vinyl. Anxious to go over my small collection and see if the others are as clean as the Bread album.
    I think my stylus on the M95ED is still in great condition, as I don't recall using it much, once I bought a CD player (Marantz CD-63 MkII). I am saddened Shure no longer makes a replacement stylus.
    I would like to ask your for your comments regarding purchasing a replacement stylus like JICL ($83 basic or $195 for SAS). Am I ok buying one of these or should I jump and purchase an Ortofon 2M Red ($99), or Blue ($240)? Are they similar to the Shure 95ED in sound? Or is there another cartridge out there I could consider?
    Thanks for the great videos and looking forward to future reviews.

  • @endangeredspecies1272
    @endangeredspecies1272 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I DO agree, the Shure M97eX is one HELLUVA cartridge for less than $100, it's HARD to beat!

  • @thecatgyp6850
    @thecatgyp6850 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to admit when i decided to purchase my Pioneer PL 117D turntable, after i restored it mechanically, replaced the timber veneer, i spent some time investigating cartridges. I started out slow though and i came across the Audio Technica AT95E and have loved it ever since. But its like anything else, like why I prefer S Shaped Tone Arms or why I use the Art DJ phono preamp instead of the onboard inbuilt output on my amp - it all makes sense to my ear - I like using the Behringer EQ Ultragraph Pro and the DBX 3BX enhancer - but i also like experimenting with cartridges and the convenience of just swapping out headshells...

  • @Kek5kopF
    @Kek5kopF 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video!

  • @pablov1973
    @pablov1973 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I only use the Shure M97xe for mint or near mint pressing, it have a very detailed sound and very analitic click finder, so for more used worn record I prefeer the Ortofon Arkiv E or Shure M44E.

  • @eyeh8u1
    @eyeh8u1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Obviously what sounds best is subjective. We all hear the same sound but perceive it differently, the result of which is influenced by way to many things to list here. Having said that, for me personally, I found the Audio Technica AT95E to be the best "all round" bang for the buck cartridge in the $50-$300 range. The most expensive cartridge I've tried being the the Ortofon 2m Blue. I didn't care for the blue. It sounded way too "bright" for my tastes. The only cartridge I thought was slightly better than the AT95E was the Nagaoka 110. But it costs twice as much the AT95E. I also own the Ortofon 2m Red and honestly I can't hear any real difference between it and the AT95E. As mentioned before, YMMV. But for me, the AT95E is the sweet spot in terms of price vs. performance.

  • @bryede
    @bryede 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Also, there are a lot of upgrade styli available for the cheap AT carts from places like LP Gear.

  • @hi-fihaven2257
    @hi-fihaven2257 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, great cartridges!

  • @tobinmummert8374
    @tobinmummert8374 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I AGREE with the #1 pick!! The Shure M97xE is by far and wide the best cartridge in this video! I've been using one for years. In fact when I first purchased mine, it had a hefty price tag of $140!!! The M97xE just sounds so damn good that many caught onto it and bought them so they can sell them for slightly less than $100. Damn fine cartridge!! Warm, smooth and if aligned properly, will take care of any of that nasty inner groove distortion we all hate!!!!!

    • @endangeredspecies1272
      @endangeredspecies1272 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tobin, you've got my VOTE on that one, I'm in agreement but, of late, the prices of those cartridges now range from about $99-$199, depending on who you buy from. Someone gave me one with a broken stylus, I bought a replacement (not the oem) and it STILL sounds GREAT with everything from Teena Marie to Tchaikovsky! 😍👍

    • @petersammon8771
      @petersammon8771 ปีที่แล้ว

      I fully agree as you just can't beat and m97xe and I've purchased a good handful of them to share with family friends and Neighbors at each time they just never fail to impress in the right way! There is just not a more natural sounding phono cartridge in the face of the planet let's face it as it's just too goddamn doggone bad that sure stop production of them a sad moment for analog but the good news is if you have a spare stylus you're good to go for a long long time because that elliptical stylus last at least 2,000 hours! It seems to get better with time like a fine wine

  • @pompeymonkey3271
    @pompeymonkey3271 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow!
    I had the AT95E a good 35 years ago. Glad it's still recognised as a great "value" stylus!

    • @richardmacpherson2
      @richardmacpherson2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah ! - whenever I see ' AT95E ' my brain always goes - " AH !!! " - I can still remember it being recommended in an early 1980' s What - HiFi to a reader in the questions section .Still haven't heard one . but it looks like I still could !

  • @owenlaprath4135
    @owenlaprath4135 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most cartridge bodies, especially Shure and Audio Technica can be upgraded with styli that are available now. Shure originals are no longer made, but SAS and Vivid Line replacements are devine sounding! Ok, so SAS is no longer cheap (used to be 139 a pop, now 300 - scream!!!), but Vivid Line is still there for 80 to 110 dollars at LP-Tunes and LP-Gear

  • @Dhlamedia
    @Dhlamedia 6 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I bought a Nagaoka MP-110 for $98 thanks to the eBay flash sale. Thanks to this loophole, it outclasses every cartridge in this video.

    • @leon9021
      @leon9021 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DeL Keyes same here

    • @needley
      @needley 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Nagaoka is not a good tracker from sibilant records

    • @leon9021
      @leon9021 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Father Damien Karras Depends on what you mean good. Its better than probably 70% of all other cartridges if we count each one, but its not flawless. Any 0.7x0.4 stylus cant be.

    • @needley
      @needley 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leon thepro indeed.

    • @HiViNywschannel
      @HiViNywschannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Father Damien Karras Hi and long time no see fellow vinyl friend 😊👋

  • @la196
    @la196 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the review and thanks for the music! I just went and purchased the digital CD. Already working on the bass line for Paper Airplane. Good band good bass guitar too. I'm thinking I may try the Shure M97xE.

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Haha! Thanks for the support! Sadly, Shure is stopping production of their cartridges. But you should be able to get a really good deal on one as suppliers try and off-load their stock.

    • @la196
      @la196 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for that info, Didn't know that? Just looking to upgrade the cartridge for a friends daughter's Teac 300 before she goes off to college this fall. Currently it had (yes had) a Audio-Technica MM type phonograph cartridge AT95SE. Anytime I listened, it was a bit underwhelming for my ear. This will be a birthday gift:) . Just not sure which will make a significant improvement across the board. Thanks again.

    • @la196
      @la196 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just checked eBay...well that rules out the Shure, they're of course taking advantage and inflating the price:)

  • @seb250cr
    @seb250cr 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good video ! What would you recommend for a vintage Pioneer PL-750 needle replacement ?
    Best regards.

  • @dexta32084
    @dexta32084 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love my M97xE. Just a bummer they don't make them anymore.

  • @arielrodriguez975
    @arielrodriguez975 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video! They all sound the same to me. I own 2m blue.

  • @petrileskinen4299
    @petrileskinen4299 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I use to have Shure m97xE in my Rega P2 and tracking was bad and also it was dull sounding. After that i went to Audio Technica 440Mlb and it was in my Rega p5 turntable. Tracking was great but the sound was too clinical. And now i have Nagaoka MP-150 and that is all i want for sound. Musical and tracking is also great.

  • @WackyT08
    @WackyT08 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I use the Grado Green2 on my Technics SL-QL1 turntable set to 1.5g tracking force, and it is an amazing sounding cartridge.

  • @vynleshmynle7372
    @vynleshmynle7372 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I had the Sure M97xE on my P3/2000 and thought it sounded wonderful..... Until I took Ian’s advise on the Nag MP110, wow, what an ear opener I was hearing sounds that just weren’t there before and I’m not trying to be dramatic here, I can only compare it to “finally getting that water out of your ear “ experience.

    • @TheAgeOfAnalog
      @TheAgeOfAnalog 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have an MP-110 arriving today to replace my M97XE. Anxious to give it a go.

    • @allankvist6741
      @allankvist6741 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So how did it go?

    • @TheAgeOfAnalog
      @TheAgeOfAnalog 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@allankvist6741 Same experience as Vynle Schmynle, it's like someone took the blanket off my speakers. Loving the Nagaoka MP-110 so far.4

    • @vcp93
      @vcp93 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      So funny you say that because I was thinking the same thing. I didn't even know there was an MP-100, but the few dollars more for the MP-110 is well worth it. It's an excellent entry level cartridge and something you can enjoy for a long time. I've moved up to the MP-200 and love this cartridge as well. Overall, I think this guy's video was reasonably accurate. There will be some differences in taste, but overall a good entry level guide.

  • @pastamatt
    @pastamatt 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Haha! Interesting! I watched this video because I was thinking maybe there is some better value out there to replace my 8-year-old m97xE... wondering if I'm missing out. I laughed out loud when we got to the end and saw my current cartridge as the top recommendation under $100. I guess I'll have to look at spending more if I am considering an upgrade.

  • @goldenboy5500
    @goldenboy5500 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    pickering AT15 P-AC yes its vintage but there are plenty of then out there

  • @TheZooman22
    @TheZooman22 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice review... I really like the music by Kayleigh Smith.

  • @yorkemar
    @yorkemar ปีที่แล้ว

    I may try m2 blue..as I have red. One improvement is I used a swab coated with contact cleaner..on headshell contacts. Incredible difference.

  • @joaomargarido9121
    @joaomargarido9121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very satisfied with my Rega Carbon on the Planar 3 turntable. Better than the most expensive other Rega budget cartridges. Like also the Ortofhon OM 10.

    • @MarioCavolo
      @MarioCavolo 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thats so surprising but good for you. the rega carbon is basically the same as an inexpensive at3600

    • @1312_PV
      @1312_PV 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can buy an AT-3600L, it is the very same, for 13$ (yes, not kidding) off ebay, great value if you ever want to replace it by a new one.

  • @garnetnewton-wade6254
    @garnetnewton-wade6254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Same to me but at home I use a 2m red and love it.

  • @frozerekmeyata4091
    @frozerekmeyata4091 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Shure m97XE is on Amazon but it cost $171 no $99. I listened to your samplings with 2 headphones, a Sennheiser HD 414's and Betron YSM1000's (the Sennheiser is more accurate and better sounding, but the Betron is portable) The one I seemed to prefer over all of them, and of course this is personal opinion, but the Sumiko Oyster seemed to have a tad more depth and separation to it with close to same tonal quality with better low end response than the Shure M97XE for almost half the price.

  • @manuelperez-mg1rb
    @manuelperez-mg1rb 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I have the sumiko Oyster and the Grado Black and was very surprised to see the Sumiko placed so high and the Grado Black so low .
    I do understand the complexities and viariabilities possible because of setup , cartidge and tonearm compatability plus to turntable per sea . All that being said I just can't imagine a system where the Oyster sound better then a Grado. The Oyster sounds smooth at the expense of detail and dynamics The Grado is a very dynamic cartridge with a lot of detail not thrown in your face and for the price great soundstage . Just my 2 cents worth

    • @hoobsgroove
      @hoobsgroove 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      it is more than that set up rig and more your experience will differ to somebody else's

  • @LanciaD50
    @LanciaD50 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    This channell is wonderful thank you

  • @ScottGrammer
    @ScottGrammer หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video, although the Rega is a rebadged $25 AT. I was fortunate enough to find a sealed, NOS M97xe, with original, unused stylus, but it cost me a bit more than $100! I had the Grado Green as well, but sold it due to hum issues.

  • @japanesecinema6736
    @japanesecinema6736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's interesting. I preferred the grado green 💚

  • @bluesman608
    @bluesman608 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a very interesting video and comparison. I have the 2M Red and a Black Grado. Is there meant to be an audible sound change in the music played during the video, as the cartridges change? I didn’t hear it ... but that’s probably TH-cam compression and my ears.

  • @simonbeasley989
    @simonbeasley989 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant comparison. Not huge differences via TH-cam and on a song I don't know. Biggest difference i heard was $30 AT then AT95E. I like the design of the OM5E, the way the stylus itself isn't obscured by a bit block of plastic, and the super low tracking weight.

  • @jluis5188
    @jluis5188 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    We all know our system's strengths and weaknesses when adjusting our bass treble and separation that it has. That said the trick is to pick the cartridge that better enhances your audios weaknesses. For this reason, running an all early to the mid-70s system I feel the O-RED is the one for me. Trust your ears and adjust to your liking.

  • @trashyaudiophile7301
    @trashyaudiophile7301 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The AT91, REGA carbon, AT3600L and a few others that use the 3600 rebranded all sound the same.
    I found it funny at the end when you said look how far we've come. The change in sound is drastic. But my ears did play the trick on me. The swap back I didn't hear a difference the first time.

  • @andrewspoon2179
    @andrewspoon2179 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Red MM was my pick honestly, but the one with the little brushes punches above its price point

  • @jamesallen5591
    @jamesallen5591 5 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I'm happy with my Ortofon 2M Red.

    • @thinkzinc100
      @thinkzinc100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Best needle I have purchased @$100.

    • @DJDickieH
      @DJDickieH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have the same styles. I use it for digitising. I'm not totally happy with it though. For the simple fact I don't feel the stereo seperation is that great. I've compared songs from TH-cam and it seems like left and right channels on TH-cam are for more separate, than the M2's recording which seems central. Although it could be the mixer I'm using to record with, so I'm trouble shooting.

    • @therealchickentender
      @therealchickentender 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't stand mine. Has to be the most aggressive cart I've ever ran. I get why people like it but mine is a back-up cart and nothing more at this point.

  • @thinkzinc100
    @thinkzinc100 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only problem with the Shure recommendations: Shure is no longer making these stylus/cartridges which is devastating. BUT - I will be 100% recommend the Ortofon RED. It's EXCELLENT. Very detailed and warm. Basically the best needle you are going to get under $100. My 2 cents. If you are on a budget the Audio-Technica AT95E is great, followed by the even cheaper (and almost as good as the AT95) Audio-Technica ATN3600L which fits on the Audio-Technica AT-LP60. It's $19 and a great buy IMO.

    • @joelane7146
      @joelane7146 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the ANT3600, sounded good, I replaced with the AT95E, I couldn't tell much difference, with player older records. I just order the AT95C to change out the AT95E Cartridge. I mostly played used records, but in decent shape.

  • @alexmoldovan7557
    @alexmoldovan7557 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome video!!!

  • @filipp7611
    @filipp7611 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, thank you for a great video, now I have Ortofon OM5 and I want to replace it with Ortofon OM10 (50$) or Shure M92 (75$) what you can recommend to buy?

  • @TheBudgie29
    @TheBudgie29 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My 2MRed In It's box best place for It. I'll get It out when I get some Boot Sale Records to play. I have the MP110H and the 150H these are best through the Schitt-Mani, they will make Your Vinyl sing like You have never heard It before. If You can afford It, the MP200. I have a AT95E with a 78 stylus for playing back My 78 number ones. And It sounds Awesome Thanks for sharing.

  • @TheEasternShoreMoyes
    @TheEasternShoreMoyes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Shopping for a new cartridge after resurrecting my turntable from storage. It has a Shure M97HE that was purchased in the early 80's. After listening to this comparison, I'm going to buy a replacement stylus for the M97HE. It costs just over $100 for the JICO and it should sound better than the xE.

  • @grapeswineukraine
    @grapeswineukraine 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Grado Green, Nagaoka MP-100, Ortofon 2M Red

  • @careystuart
    @careystuart 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done video.

  • @rik7373
    @rik7373 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Please use classical music next time or a track with a lot of stereo effect and a lot of instruments because with this track its a little hard to compare the cartridges.
    But still I appreciate your work.

  • @vinylman6580
    @vinylman6580 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've heard so many mixed reviews on cartridges that made my head spin! I just bought a Fluance Rt83 Reference Turntable that comes with the Ortofon 2m Red. That's going to be my starting point and I'll go from there if I have to! It amazes me how many people hear a completely different sound from the 2m Red. Some say it has too much bass and some say it's too tinny! Well I will have a Subwoofer to adjust the amount of Bass I want so we'll see!

    • @SpykeZ0129
      @SpykeZ0129 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's why audio is so suggestive. Me personally? I fucking HATE horn tweeters. My cousin? Fucking loves them. I could tell you all day they sound like shit but then you have people that swear by them. Me? I love Focal's inverted dome aluminum tweeters hell of a lot better than my Polk's silk dome. But I've also heard people say Focal's tweeters are too harsh. Can't read reviews either because all the audiofool snake oil bullshit like "oh these power cords make everything sound better".

    • @bryede
      @bryede 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@SpykeZ0129 Plus, there are so many variables in hi-fi from the matching of components to the acoustics of the room. You have to think of it like a hot rod you have to spend time tuning.

  • @stevenclarke5606
    @stevenclarke5606 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to agree the rega carbon is an over priced AT-3600 , and that sounds good to me at about £15 brilliant sounds for the price. I have now installed a AT-VM 95e and it sounds really good. I do have difficulty hearing differences between these cartridges, obviously age and too many rock concerts have taken there toll. Music is all about enjoying it.

  • @davedrew9328
    @davedrew9328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I liked the Audio Technica AT95E I found the voice stage much clearer and dynamic.

    • @danieldaniels7571
      @danieldaniels7571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Dave Drew I’ve found for the money it’s really hard to beat the cheap AT carts. Does a $100 dollar sound better? Perhaps. Does it sound 4x better than a $25 AT? No way in hell.

  • @Fabiohammond
    @Fabiohammond 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dynamic compliance for AT95E isn't 20, but 6,5 at 100Hz, about 13 at 10Hz .....anyway I like your comparison videos!!! :)

  • @scottferguson1932
    @scottferguson1932 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, this is going to sound ignorant, but I'll risk it. It seems that the more "detailed" a cartridge is, the more harsh it sounds. Yes, your number 1,2 and 3 picks had an open, airy quality, but they also began to hurt my ears. The Sumiko and the Ortofon seemed to be good compromises, revealing the details while still feeling easy to listen to. Thanks very much for this, it was eye opening!

  • @ChristopherYork1978
    @ChristopherYork1978 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Red, the Shure and the Oyster were my favs.

  • @peersupportcounselor1904
    @peersupportcounselor1904 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m trying to get my wife to agree to let me get a turntable again… I was directed to this channel by final TV because you seem to take cost and value vintage turntables. Thank you so much for your channel and I appreciate you and I’ll be consuming a lot of your content! Best wishes 😊

    • @JoeOrber
      @JoeOrber ปีที่แล้ว

      How did it go? Were you able to get a turntable?🛒

  • @TheAgeOfAnalog
    @TheAgeOfAnalog 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very nice comparisons! I'm really enjoying my Shure M97XE more and more. I've probably got 50-60 hours on mine now, and it's much more detailed than when new, especially in the upper frequencies. How many do you have on this one?

    • @josefloresjr1968
      @josefloresjr1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is it really that good? I’m thinking of buying that one but I’m not sure if this list is good to go off of yk?

    • @TheAgeOfAnalog
      @TheAgeOfAnalog 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josefloresjr1968 Shure is no longer producing any cartridges and the remaining back stock of the M97xe is being sold for inflated prices, so there are much better options out there for the money.

    • @josefloresjr1968
      @josefloresjr1968 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheAgeOfAnalog thank you so much! You’re very helpful

  • @QoraxAudio
    @QoraxAudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did you switch the input capacitance of your phono preamp to the appropriate levels for each cartridge?
    It might explain why the Nagaoka and AT cartridges end quite low on the list.
    Most preamps with static input capacitance have 220pF, which is ideal for Ortofon cartridges, but less optimal for Nagaoka (too low) and AT (too high) cartridges.
    Don’t buy Shure if you’re planning to use it for a long time.
    Shure has shut down production, so replacement styli will become scarse.

  • @alpzepta
    @alpzepta 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The best one for me was the Audio Technica AT92E
    Too bad they discontinued it but their Shibata is really good too but expensive

  • @barrelroll_poopoopeepee
    @barrelroll_poopoopeepee 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can still get m97xe's and their replacement stylus's for retail price from online musician shops

  • @cubdukat
    @cubdukat 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm surprised the Grados didn't chart higher. I know they have some issues, but with 30dB of channel separation, I could forgive a lot. I have a Black1 on my mmf-2.2, and apart from the fact that it doesn't like my platter (steel), I like it a lot. It's the first cart that was playable right from the start, and it only got better with time. However, I'm hesitant to transfer it to my next turntable, which is probably going to be the Pioneer PLX-500. I haven't heard anything about whether it has hum issues with that table, and I'd hate to give it up because it does. But the stock cartridge will definitely be going out - unless LPGear has that ATN91-compatible stylus with the carbon fiber cantilever...

    • @HiViNywschannel
      @HiViNywschannel 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Larry Wilson Enjoy your Grado Black Buddy👋😄...great to see you. All of you guys have fun!

    • @gurdyman1
      @gurdyman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Updating the Grado Black stylus to an 8MZ stylus from LPGear will make it sound even better.

  • @socksumi
    @socksumi 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Up your budget a bit to the Nagaoka MP110 at about $125 retail. A clear winner and better than the cartridges listed.

    • @socksumi
      @socksumi 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It now retails for about $225 online or a lot more in a retail store in Canada. No longer a bargain as at that price it has stiff competition.

  • @justsumguy2u
    @justsumguy2u 5 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I always buy Grado---made in Brooklyn by a family-run business. My latest was a Grado Black2

    • @PhuckHue2
      @PhuckHue2 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I bought a Grado and it hummed like crazy. They need better quality control

    • @matereo
      @matereo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@PhuckHue2 ususally it is the TT that is poorly constructed

    • @gurdyman1
      @gurdyman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PhuckHue2 The hum has nothing to do with Grado's quality control. It comes from having a turntable with an unshielded motor. Grado's don't shield their cartridges because of their patented design which is degraded if shielding is added. One needs to be careful of what turntable is used with them.

  • @scottdavis0801
    @scottdavis0801 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    One cartridge I have just tried recently for under $100, is The Vessel A3SE cartridge. With a good phono amp, excellent sounding!

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello, I did not review the vessel a3se as it is a Sumiko Pearl rebranded by lpgear and can only be purchased through lpgear. But at 99$, technically could fit into the category. We will see how the pearl does in the 100-150 category!

    • @scottdavis0801
      @scottdavis0801 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Audiorpheus, I did not know this! What about the upper level carts like the vessel R3SS, and B3SS? Need to look into Sumiko a little more.

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those are all the same cartridges but with different syli. You can get upgraded styli for the pearl as well through Jico.

    • @cubdukat
      @cubdukat 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      LPGear seems to do that a lot. I could swear that the BIN HOMC cartridges they sell are rebranded versions of Ortofon's MC Turbo line.

  • @wonderbars36
    @wonderbars36 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Still got my 2M Red. Kinda want something new still and leaning towards that Sure at the end.

  • @guyking1
    @guyking1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video! Which cartridge would work and sound best with a Pioneer PL-514? Thanks.

  • @ILikeStyx
    @ILikeStyx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sadly, Shure left the market.. the Sure M97xE is still sold, but at insane prices now.

  • @SZTILER
    @SZTILER 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the sound is live from inserts?

  • @crosspollination6626
    @crosspollination6626 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I haven't had the luxury of trying all these carts. I have the Shure M97xE, which is not a bad cart.(It's on my very old antiquated Dual CS-5000. My other Dual- 707 has a Shure V15 Type 5, I like that one better. So- yeah your list looks good. BTW- like the song Paper Airplane from Mrs Audiorpheus. Anyway to get that album?

  • @RuyCunha
    @RuyCunha 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks

  • @gglendinningok
    @gglendinningok 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well , having an orfoton OM10 & looking for aN afordable jump up in quality, i was excited at the many cheap coices i could go for, but as it rolled on it seems what ur terming as the upper scale of
    your recommendations (Nagaoka MP-100)is said to be of similar quality to my OM10, The MP 110 actually, which is stated to be more mellow sounding(some say DULL) than my OM10, & i'm actualy wanting MORE detail:) so my expectations took a dive as the vid went on, can't imagine the earlier cheaper suggestions are going to better the OM10, which i'm wanting a VERY noticable improvement on, so back to the drawing board for me, if i KNEW something was going to give me more detailed quality sound i'd go for it, but i'm now thinking, stylus are a bit like Guitar valves of which there are many, but little differance can be noticed, there are harsh/brittle & dull ones, then there are OK ones, but there Ain't no Fantastic ones.
    I did ponder this upon only very recently using my turntable again, What differance could a stylus make to the sound, really, even read on a forum a guy had the extortionate OM30, yet preffered the sound from the OM10:)

  • @kendoglarson5419
    @kendoglarson5419 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mp-100 sure sounded great. Little tamer than the Ortofon Red. The other Ortofon sounded great too. Oyster was great too.

  • @gurdyman1
    @gurdyman1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I happen to prefer the smooth sound of Grado carts, myself. Very natural non-fatiguing sound.

  • @HeretixAevum
    @HeretixAevum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Am I the only one that thinks the 2M Red kinda sucks? It sounds thin to me. Good definition, but not worth the trade-off imo. I ended up grabbing a AT95 because they're available cheap here ($49AU or ~$34US, which is a bit over a third of the 2M Red) and I think it has a pleasant, forgiving, full sound. For the price I think it's basically impossible to complain, but I will eventually get another headshell and a more revealing, 'hi-fi' cart to compliment it.

    • @svenschwingel8632
      @svenschwingel8632 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The 2M Red is basically a new release of the OM10 at twice the pricetag. It's not bad (especially as a factory mount), but totally overpriced. If you want serious Ortofon performance, you get the 2M Blue which is only a tad more expensive. Plus, the Blue stylus can be swapped into the existing 2M Red's cartridge.
      But for 200€, you can already get an Audio Technica AT95 with a sweet Shibata stylus 🤷🏼‍♂️
      And for less money around 140--150€, there is the Goldring 3 or an MP110 which both beat the 2M Red hands down.

  • @freepress8451
    @freepress8451 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do like your reviews, as I have just purchased the Rega Carbon £25.99 ($34.51) and Shure M92E £51.19 ($67.98), so I can't wait to try them out.
    I read quite a few were having issues with the OM5E stylus?

    • @Audiorpheus_Vinyl
      @Audiorpheus_Vinyl  6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shures have been discontinued, so it’s good you grabbed one now!

    • @freepress8451
      @freepress8451 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Quite a few I discovered, as initially I was looking for either an Ortofon VMS30 or a Pickering V-15, to re-create an old-school set-up Thorens / SME 3009, I had many moons ago