But in light of sportsmanship, you made a well put together video and I think you have other interesting videos. No hard feelings, just different opinions, and I respect yours.
@@ss-leifbarsark7767 You clearly didn't watch the first 10 seconds of the video where Sofia calls him a capo and we have heard from Viti that Oz is a capo in episode 2. He cannot be a soldier if he isn't made. He would be an associate but that isn't the case here. As I pointed out in this video, they are taking creative liberty with the show to change things to fit within the world.
I said exactly why in this video lol. It the books weren’t open and I’d be wasn’t proposed for membership he wouldn’t get one. You can be a big earner and not be made. Look at goodfellas. None of them were made. In real life as well.
@@Upir1993 yes, that’s part of it. That isn’t the main reason though 😂. They were junkies and loose cannons that only brought attention to Paulie. Clipping Tommy was a message to the crew to start acting right.
I would say he’s just a very capable associate who has clawed his way up, unofficially. He’s not made. He’s either half or not Italian at all, so can’t be made, technically. The Maroni family has integrated Persians bc their Boss’ wife. He basically shifted away from Cosa Nostra. Falcones seem to remain traditional.
Apparently Sammy the Bull didn’t maintain the secret lol. I’m not a fan of Cobblepot being a Capo it doesn’t really fit based on the character background Canon wise.
You missed a key point. He's not a capo, Selina implies he sold her out because he WANTED to be a caporegime but as she says, it didn't work. He didn't even get a button for it.
Thank you Korriban! It’s been great seeing your support across all of my content exploring lol. It’s been great so far and I want this show to continue for years like the sopranos
@@CantinaTalkSW you drop content like a madman lol love to see the grind you do, plus your actual interest in the world and characters in it with every genre is admirable! I’ll be chillin with ya for the ride lol
Oz is half Italian? I mean his mom looks and sound Italian and we know nothing about his father. I think he's not a made man cause he wasn't born into a crime family and had to work himself there. Maybe his father was honest working man just like bronx tale. But I'm not worried if he's not Italian so he can be a made man cause Oz is gonna be the boss of his own family regardless
Oz is full Italian according to the-batman-universe.fandom.com/wiki/Penguin this is what I go by for everything. I'd like the A Bronx Tale parallel, but honestly, I think Oz's father is going to be a nobody who left his mother, this is what would fuel him to take care of his mother. Especially after his two brother's death. EDIT: When I made the video to check, they were Italian-American. This has now been updated to just say American. So take that with what you will
Because of how exceptional it is for a guy like Oz. It makes him stand-out and draws attention, which he likes. His name and reputation gets around. In my opinion good writing actually.
So much for “omertà”… it seems like every anyone who has an Italian last name has a podcast about their lives in “the family”. They’re supposed to deny even the existence of LCN
So as far as I understand it, there are tons of (even southern Italian) mafia cultures where the oath of omertà (if ever) is taken way before, and where you might have done many sanctioned hits before you get made. So it is quite plausible. Falcone doesn’t really strike me as the traditionalist
0:11 No i'm not wondering that actually I'm a jojo's fan And I'm here wondering why you linked this video to the Jack Nicholson short.I want to hear more about that What tf bro
Westley Snipes was an amazing Blade, however time has passed and his muscle definition just ain’t there anymore. Michael J White would make a great replacement for Blade. Id also like to see spawn come back too! he even looks like Blade the comic book character more 😌
Just being Italian isn’t enough, you have to be from what WAS the Kingdom Of The Two Sicilies. No Romans, no Genoese or Venetians, and no Calabresians (although they have a parallel organization). Marseilles also has a similar organization (for reasons that should be obvious to anyone looking at a map).
You made a whole 8 minute video about something that can be answered in 30 seconds. Sofia pointed out that Oz ISN'T a made man. This would make Oz an associate of the Mafia Family. Associates can do business with and for the family but are not a part of the family. So all that talking and your not even correct. How can Oz be a Capo within the family if he isn't even a part of the family. That's rhetorical by the way Geez dude, desperate for content much?
Wow you seem hurt over nothing 😂. Sofia also said he was a capo. He’s confirming that he was a capo. He’s also been called a capo by others. With her saying she’s not a made man brings up questions. Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean others won’t. If this upset you that badly I think you gotta take some time away from the internet.
@@CantinaTalkSW what would make you think I'm hurt? I'm calm and collected. I just get irritated when people spread misinformation like its facts. You're clearly speaking on something you know nothing about. He might be a captain within his own crew that is separate from the Mafia but he is not a Capo within the family. There have been plenty of individuals who worked with the Mafia as associates and made money for both themselves and the Mafia Examples: Jimmy "The Gent" Burke Anthony Spilatro John Alite Frank Sheeran Henry Hill And many more These individuals ran many rackets for the Mafia but weren't "RANKED" within the Mafia. Do your research first bro. It was embarrassing to watch your video. It was the blind leading the blind.
@@Anime_44_Love The fact that you have been referring solely to it as the Mafia tells me all I need to know. Especially after you named guys like Jimmy Burke who was Irish so he couldn't have been a Capo. Alite is an Albanian who has been proven to be a liar on multiple counts. So don't go around throwing that I know nothing about what I'm talking about when I went to college to study this. I'm using "Rank" as a level system so people understand the hierarchy. Like I said, I was going to be making an entire separate video on it, and wasn't my main focus. I had mentioned twice in this video that the show is taking creative liberty to change things and this is why it is not factually accurate
@@CantinaTalkSW Exactly, I used some non Italian men as well as Italian men as examples to prove my point, which is you can run rackets for the mafia but not be in the mafia. This is Oz's position at the moment. But all throughout your video your explaining how Oz is a Capo within the mafia family. HE IS NOT. He's not even a made man, straightened out, got his button, none of that. So your video makes no sense.
@@Anime_44_Love Who cares? Its a tv show. If you wanted an accurate mob show watch the sopranos. The mob wouldn't be a glorified street gang nowadays if they dropped the whole full blooded italian gimmick, which most Italian-Americans definitely aren't full blooded
A cappo regime is a made man in charge of a number of soldiers within a family. Its a very important leadership group withing the organisation. Oz would be an associate, I don't think the show phrases it correctly.
Nicholas Hoult lives shiny and chrome in the here and now. A great actor! He's in something new coming soon. I saw a preview recently. I can't remember what it's called.
@@daneo617 on top of this, I used Michael’s video when he talked about getting made. It’s was very similar to Sammy’s but there are some differences. Michael’s was in a banquet hall. Sammy’s was in the basement of a house. Doesn’t mean the story isn’t true 😂
@@CantinaTalkSW name one person locked up because of the info he gave to the government. Michael has been honest about working with them, but still nobody is doing time because of Michael. Can't say the same for Sammy, there's a difference.
You're Italian American and you call it the administration, wtf? Unless that's what they call it on the show, then ok. But other than that shame on you.
What are you looking forward to the most with The Penguin??
@@CantinaTalkSW following/sub now you at 99%
@@UncensoredArtthank you! I really appreciate it!
But in light of sportsmanship, you made a well put together video and I think you have other interesting videos. No hard feelings, just different opinions, and I respect yours.
@@CantinaTalkSW you cant be a Capo if your not made,and hes not a capo in the show hes just a soldier
@@ss-leifbarsark7767 You clearly didn't watch the first 10 seconds of the video where Sofia calls him a capo and we have heard from Viti that Oz is a capo in episode 2. He cannot be a soldier if he isn't made. He would be an associate but that isn't the case here. As I pointed out in this video, they are taking creative liberty with the show to change things to fit within the world.
I never understood how he can be running a huge club and bringing in tons of money and still isn’t made.
I said exactly why in this video lol. It the books weren’t open and I’d be wasn’t proposed for membership he wouldn’t get one. You can be a big earner and not be made. Look at goodfellas. None of them were made. In real life as well.
@@CantinaTalkSW they didn't get made cuz they were not italians,The crazy one could get made but he fucked up
@@Upir1993Oswald Chesterfield Cobblepot
@@Upir1993 yes, that’s part of it. That isn’t the main reason though 😂. They were junkies and loose cannons that only brought attention to Paulie. Clipping Tommy was a message to the crew to start acting right.
@@theoneandonlybosable yes, in the comics that’s his name.
I would say he’s just a very capable associate who has clawed his way up, unofficially. He’s not made. He’s either half or not Italian at all, so can’t be made, technically.
The Maroni family has integrated Persians bc their Boss’ wife. He basically shifted away from Cosa Nostra. Falcones seem to remain traditional.
Couldn’t agree more. I noticed that with the maroni’s as well. I kinda hoped they’d stay true but for them it doesn’t really matter too much to me
Apparently Sammy the Bull didn’t maintain the secret lol. I’m not a fan of Cobblepot being a Capo it doesn’t really fit based on the character background Canon wise.
Chapters:
00:00 - 00:25 - Intro
00:26 - 00:52 - Becoming a Made Man
00:53 - 01:32 - What does a Capo do?
01:33 - 02:06 - The Administration
02:07 - 02:29 - What is the Oath of Omerta?
02:30 - 06:20 - Taking The Oath of Omera | Sammy The Bull
06:21 - 07:06 - Sofia's Goal
07:07 - 07:41 - Outro
You missed a key point. He's not a capo, Selina implies he sold her out because he WANTED to be a caporegime but as she says, it didn't work. He didn't even get a button for it.
He's like jimmy from Goodfellas, a "good earner."
Exactly!
Great breakdown man, episode 3 was fantastic for sure. Already on my top for DC shows
Thank you Korriban! It’s been great seeing your support across all of my content exploring lol. It’s been great so far and I want this show to continue for years like the sopranos
@@CantinaTalkSW you drop content like a madman lol love to see the grind you do, plus your actual interest in the world and characters in it with every genre is admirable! I’ll be chillin with ya for the ride lol
@@KorribanHideout I’m trying lol I’m glad that you’ve enjoyed. I’m having just as much fun making it
That flash over the actual subscription button is fucking mind blowing idk why
As someone who just finished the sopranos, I’m about to have fun with these 3 episodes😂, also love the Mikey Fransese and sopranos footage
Thank you man! CBM movies and SW etc are one side of my life. The other are sopranos, Mikey, Sammy etc. I know you’ll enjoy the show!
@@CantinaTalkSWI relate to that tooo much lmaoo you got a new subscriber and W video
@@shhh5743 thank you man! I really appreciate it!
Oz is half Italian? I mean his mom looks and sound Italian and we know nothing about his father. I think he's not a made man cause he wasn't born into a crime family and had to work himself there. Maybe his father was honest working man just like bronx tale. But I'm not worried if he's not Italian so he can be a made man cause Oz is gonna be the boss of his own family regardless
Oz is full Italian according to the-batman-universe.fandom.com/wiki/Penguin this is what I go by for everything. I'd like the A Bronx Tale parallel, but honestly, I think Oz's father is going to be a nobody who left his mother, this is what would fuel him to take care of his mother. Especially after his two brother's death.
EDIT: When I made the video to check, they were Italian-American. This has now been updated to just say American. So take that with what you will
How are you a capo and not a made man? Impossible. Why did they even do that!!?????
Because of how exceptional it is for a guy like Oz. It makes him stand-out and draws attention, which he likes. His name and reputation gets around. In my opinion good writing actually.
Like I said twice in this video. They are changing things and taking creative liberty with the show.
@@Thelrox Yep!
@@nothing-oj1sz John Gotti wasn't made yet he was promoted to Acting Capo.
@@Ijpg456 Source?
So much for “omertà”… it seems like every anyone who has an Italian last name has a podcast about their lives in “the family”. They’re supposed to deny even the existence of LCN
Sammy created his just to clear his name.
So as far as I understand it, there are tons of (even southern Italian) mafia cultures where the oath of omertà (if ever) is taken way before, and where you might have done many sanctioned hits before you get made.
So it is quite plausible. Falcone doesn’t really strike me as the traditionalist
Oz is an associate
Just commenting for support
She's perfectly proportioned
0:11 No i'm not wondering that actually I'm a jojo's fan And I'm here wondering why you linked this video to the Jack Nicholson short.I want to hear more about that What tf bro
Because I can’t link to videos that aren’t on TH-cam? It’s from my blue ray dvd lol TH-cam doesn’t allow that 😂
why does the link leads to the penguin video..? i wanted to see the full interview
Because TH-cam doesn’t allow you to put other videos that aren’t ones you uploaded.
Westley Snipes was an amazing Blade, however time has passed and his muscle definition just ain’t there anymore. Michael J White would make a great replacement for Blade. Id also like to see spawn come back too! he even looks like Blade the comic book character more 😌
Wait but Oz isnt Italian no? I thought only Italians/Sicilians can be made Made men.
He’s listed as Italian
Just being Italian isn’t enough, you have to be from what WAS the Kingdom Of The Two Sicilies. No Romans, no Genoese or Venetians, and no Calabresians (although they have a parallel organization). Marseilles also has a similar organization (for reasons that should be obvious to anyone looking at a map).
You cant be a Cappo if your not a made man! Hes just a connected guy with his own crew
You made a whole 8 minute video about something that can be answered in 30 seconds. Sofia pointed out that Oz ISN'T a made man. This would make Oz an associate of the Mafia Family. Associates can do business with and for the family but are not a part of the family.
So all that talking and your not even correct. How can Oz be a Capo within the family if he isn't even a part of the family. That's rhetorical by the way
Geez dude, desperate for content much?
Wow you seem hurt over nothing 😂. Sofia also said he was a capo. He’s confirming that he was a capo. He’s also been called a capo by others. With her saying she’s not a made man brings up questions. Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean others won’t. If this upset you that badly I think you gotta take some time away from the internet.
@@CantinaTalkSW what would make you think I'm hurt? I'm calm and collected. I just get irritated when people spread misinformation like its facts. You're clearly speaking on something you know nothing about.
He might be a captain within his own crew that is separate from the Mafia but he is not a Capo within the family.
There have been plenty of individuals who worked with the Mafia as associates and made money for both themselves and the Mafia
Examples:
Jimmy "The Gent" Burke
Anthony Spilatro
John Alite
Frank Sheeran
Henry Hill
And many more
These individuals ran many rackets for the Mafia but weren't "RANKED" within the Mafia.
Do your research first bro. It was embarrassing to watch your video. It was the blind leading the blind.
@@Anime_44_Love The fact that you have been referring solely to it as the Mafia tells me all I need to know. Especially after you named guys like Jimmy Burke who was Irish so he couldn't have been a Capo. Alite is an Albanian who has been proven to be a liar on multiple counts. So don't go around throwing that I know nothing about what I'm talking about when I went to college to study this. I'm using "Rank" as a level system so people understand the hierarchy. Like I said, I was going to be making an entire separate video on it, and wasn't my main focus. I had mentioned twice in this video that the show is taking creative liberty to change things and this is why it is not factually accurate
@@CantinaTalkSW Exactly, I used some non Italian men as well as Italian men as examples to prove my point, which is you can run rackets for the mafia but not be in the mafia. This is Oz's position at the moment. But all throughout your video your explaining how Oz is a Capo within the mafia family. HE IS NOT. He's not even a made man, straightened out, got his button, none of that.
So your video makes no sense.
@@Anime_44_Love
Who cares? Its a tv show.
If you wanted an accurate mob show watch the sopranos.
The mob wouldn't be a glorified street gang nowadays if they dropped the whole full blooded italian gimmick, which most Italian-Americans definitely aren't full blooded
A cappo regime is a made man in charge of a number of soldiers within a family. Its a very important leadership group withing the organisation. Oz would be an associate, I don't think the show phrases it correctly.
Like I had said twice in this video. The show is changing that. They are taking creative liberty with things.
Nicholas Hoult lives shiny and chrome in the here and now. A great actor! He's in something new coming soon. I saw a preview recently. I can't remember what it's called.
He’s playing Lex Luther in Superman
Henry cavill as magneto
I hope he gets that cool gadget umbrella ☂️ 😅
That’d be interesting to see!
Hey brother where are you from
Sammy is good at keeping secrets.
Anyone in the life would’ve been good at keeping secrets
Sammy's a 🐀. 😁
So is Michael. Doesn’t change the facts.
@@CantinaTalkSW Michael Franzese ? He was not a 🐀.
Yes it does, lots of rats lie.
@@daneo617 he cooperated with the government. He still worked with the government. By your teams he’d be a rat lol
@@daneo617 on top of this, I used Michael’s video when he talked about getting made. It’s was very similar to Sammy’s but there are some differences. Michael’s was in a banquet hall. Sammy’s was in the basement of a house. Doesn’t mean the story isn’t true 😂
@@CantinaTalkSW name one person locked up because of the info he gave to the government.
Michael has been honest about working with them, but still nobody is doing time because of Michael.
Can't say the same for Sammy, there's a difference.
Sammy the snitch LoL 🤣
You have to be itlan to be made oz isn't itlan
Before this episode aired. He was listed as Italian on the wiki for it.
capo status
🤌🏽
You're Italian American and you call it the administration, wtf? Unless that's what they call it on the show, then ok. But other than that shame on you.