The named items are with predefined stats and perks and are in a separate loot table, so you can have them regardless of the gear you wear,. I ran the dungeon with FS/BB and yet, I got a named shield. Overall, what we got so far from the devs as explanation is that the biased drop covers the randomly generated loot.
Storymode is such a walk in the part, just run a few storymodes with the inferior gear to get a starter set for the role you want and then afterwards you can use it to get better gear. I mean, you can't get everything you want just out of the box, there has to be some kind of give and take.
yeah I'd hate it if we got "BIS" gear all within the first few weeks, looks like its gonna take us a while for full BIS sets, but yeah STORY MODE expeditions are stupidly easy
The devs mentioned that they wanted to make it worthwhile for an m3 raider to go back and help out in the lower tiers, this is why there is a chance to still get gs700, i believe. Another reason why we will get more weekly run slots as well.
I don't understand the complaint of "Why do I have to go into a dungeon without bis gear?" - like, what do you want them to do, give you the bis gear *without* doing the dungeon? What would be the point. It's not even like bis items are so much better that you can only do the content with them equipped.
@@LiamHYT You. 6:25 "How do we get the gear, without going into the fight with inferior gear" - you're implying you can't play healer without bis gear. Regardless, the main way you're gonna get bis gear in the expansion is from named items you can choose the third perk of, which are fixed and not loot biased, if you weren't aware.
My thing is bias should be like 70/30 that way you get mostly stuff your after but with other items that you may try later, like a different weapon. My main issue was crap stats on certain items e.g that musket with focus.
"crap stats" on the "5%" of drops I got are still there for sure, but I like getting 95% of the specific loot based on the gear I'm wearing, the % of loot bias I guess is just down to personal opinion :)
From what I have heard, all modes have a top end of 700 GS, it is just the low end of the range that is different. So, although not likely, you could get a 700 from story mode.
yeah pretty much, im not a huge fan of getting close to 700gs from story mode dungeons but if its just 1 item every hand full of runs and the perks are random i guess thats not too bad, the low end part of the new loot system is good though
I thought AGS said you could switch your gear to what you want (the bias you would like to apply) before you loot the chest. So, using your example, if you tanked the expedition, you could then switch to your crap healing gear before looting, and the chest would produce gear with a healing bias.
for CHESTS yes that's exactly how it works :) but for mob/boss BAG drops no, the loot for those rolls as it drops so you cant change your gear mid fight, you'd have to change it before the fight, BUT if its a named item your chasing say Life Staff and your in tank gear it still has a chance of dropping which is what I was wondering at the start of this video :)
BIAS LOOT is pretty much against all around players, i play tank/dps/heal like 1/3 each time, and with this system, I'd be forced to stuck with what I'm running. dps players would be happy, but me, i gotta stuck as either tank or heal, when I want to run dps ? my new gears (650+) would be lacking, so they will ask me to run tank and heal *AGAIN* the system is amazing, BUT u at least gotta switch it *ON* in order for it to works for you, is that possible ? sure, if u play The Division 2, you'll know this is a great addition.
Not quite, if you play tank, dps and healer just keep one set of each slotted in your gear set and when you want more healing items to come out of the chest just quickly switch to that then open the chest :)
Rather have a variety of gear that doesn’t have trash combinations like musket with focus stat. Though it isn’t hard to swap gear before opening chest it’s a dumb design to make players do unnecessary steps when better drops is the only solution that’s really needed. Also how much of the loot that was dropped was useable any focus swords?
nah no focus swords, they where all str or dex which was nice, and there was no 3 perk BIS of course but I 'upgraded' my sword and shield twice in the first run compared to the PTR starter gear so wasn't too bad :)
its really clear dude , whats the video for ? when u eqiup something , chances go higher for those parts equipped + on top of that there is chance for random named item which can not be increased/scaled . new world is not the first game ever trying this type of drop system
Just go in to a lower mutation ... You have a 100 dungeons a week. May be loot biases don't work on end bosses, which to be fair makes sense Out of interest what will you play toward in 4 months time?
The new biased gear system is poorly made. Either make everything drop in box form, so you can equip whatever gear you want to see after and not be forced to go in with the gear you want to drop. Just imagine how many people are gonna go into dungeons with their pvp builds and not pve builds. I know for certain im going in with a bruiser even though bruiser builds arent the best for pve. They could also make a new menu where you choose gear that you want to see. That way stuff can drop automatically and you dont have to wear specific gear to get something to drop.
... woooo bitch about the items for you not dropping.. then bitch about the items not for you that you would want for future play styles not dropping when they fix the first grip.. the answer to your question.. which I am sure you already clearly know. is YES you must wear your gimped gear to get the better gear you want. at least you know exactly how to get what you want.. right? common mate. you want to use your best tanking gear and just get the best heal gear at the same time.. its progression.
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10/10 intro, best event they ever added to the game.
The named items are with predefined stats and perks and are in a separate loot table, so you can have them regardless of the gear you wear,. I ran the dungeon with FS/BB and yet, I got a named shield. Overall, what we got so far from the devs as explanation is that the biased drop covers the randomly generated loot.
this furthers my point then :D 10/10 IMO for the new Loot Bias System
@@LiamHYT Yea, you don't need to play healer to get LS
Storymode is such a walk in the part, just run a few storymodes with the inferior gear to get a starter set for the role you want and then afterwards you can use it to get better gear. I mean, you can't get everything you want just out of the box, there has to be some kind of give and take.
yeah I'd hate it if we got "BIS" gear all within the first few weeks, looks like its gonna take us a while for full BIS sets, but yeah STORY MODE expeditions are stupidly easy
The devs mentioned that they wanted to make it worthwhile for an m3 raider to go back and help out in the lower tiers, this is why there is a chance to still get gs700, i believe. Another reason why we will get more weekly run slots as well.
You have to start with lower items and work your way up, it makes sense to me. You can start with crafted items if nothing else.
I don't understand the complaint of "Why do I have to go into a dungeon without bis gear?" - like, what do you want them to do, give you the bis gear *without* doing the dungeon? What would be the point. It's not even like bis items are so much better that you can only do the content with them equipped.
who's complaining about that? O.o
@@LiamHYT You. 6:25 "How do we get the gear, without going into the fight with inferior gear" - you're implying you can't play healer without bis gear.
Regardless, the main way you're gonna get bis gear in the expansion is from named items you can choose the third perk of, which are fixed and not loot biased, if you weren't aware.
My thing is bias should be like 70/30 that way you get mostly stuff your after but with other items that you may try later, like a different weapon. My main issue was crap stats on certain items e.g that musket with focus.
"crap stats" on the "5%" of drops I got are still there for sure, but I like getting 95% of the specific loot based on the gear I'm wearing, the % of loot bias I guess is just down to personal opinion :)
From what I have heard, all modes have a top end of 700 GS, it is just the low end of the range that is different. So, although not likely, you could get a 700 from story mode.
yeah pretty much, im not a huge fan of getting close to 700gs from story mode dungeons but if its just 1 item every hand full of runs and the perks are random i guess thats not too bad, the low end part of the new loot system is good though
I thought AGS said you could switch your gear to what you want (the bias you would like to apply) before you loot the chest. So, using your example, if you tanked the expedition, you could then switch to your crap healing gear before looting, and the chest would produce gear with a healing bias.
for CHESTS yes that's exactly how it works :) but for mob/boss BAG drops no, the loot for those rolls as it drops so you cant change your gear mid fight, you'd have to change it before the fight, BUT if its a named item your chasing say Life Staff and your in tank gear it still has a chance of dropping which is what I was wondering at the start of this video :)
Look like this bias system also work when I open the chest from opr too.
BIAS LOOT is pretty much against all around players, i play tank/dps/heal like 1/3 each time, and with this system, I'd be forced to stuck with what I'm running. dps players would be happy, but me, i gotta stuck as either tank or heal, when I want to run dps ? my new gears (650+) would be lacking, so they will ask me to run tank and heal *AGAIN*
the system is amazing, BUT u at least gotta switch it *ON* in order for it to works for you, is that possible ? sure, if u play The Division 2, you'll know this is a great addition.
Not quite, if you play tank, dps and healer just keep one set of each slotted in your gear set and when you want more healing items to come out of the chest just quickly switch to that then open the chest :)
Rather have a variety of gear that doesn’t have trash combinations like musket with focus stat. Though it isn’t hard to swap gear before opening chest it’s a dumb design to make players do unnecessary steps when better drops is the only solution that’s really needed.
Also how much of the loot that was dropped was useable any focus swords?
nah no focus swords, they where all str or dex which was nice, and there was no 3 perk BIS of course but I 'upgraded' my sword and shield twice in the first run compared to the PTR starter gear so wasn't too bad :)
its really clear dude , whats the video for ? when u eqiup something , chances go higher for those parts equipped + on top of that there is chance for random named item which can not be increased/scaled . new world is not the first game ever trying this type of drop system
I never said they where, whats your comment for?
Maybe switch to the weapon you want just as the boss dies??
Just go in to a lower mutation ...
You have a 100 dungeons a week.
May be loot biases don't work on end bosses, which to be fair makes sense
Out of interest what will you play toward in 4 months time?
named gear have fixed attributes and perks so i think named items does'nt count towards your loot bias
This I love then and makes the Loot Bias System 10/10 IMO
Doesnt named items have presetted perks and stats add?
yes, and looks like the named items will drop regardless if its an INT piece for example and your full dex which is perfect IMO :)
Might want to edit the title "New Words". ;)
lmao TY, uploading at 1am is not always a smart idea
At 1:50 showing your musket tank hate ffs
Still waiting for the 10/10 system... tf lol
what do you not like about how they are now doing loot in NW ?
The new biased gear system is poorly made. Either make everything drop in box form, so you can equip whatever gear you want to see after and not be forced to go in with the gear you want to drop. Just imagine how many people are gonna go into dungeons with their pvp builds and not pve builds. I know for certain im going in with a bruiser even though bruiser builds arent the best for pve. They could also make a new menu where you choose gear that you want to see. That way stuff can drop automatically and you dont have to wear specific gear to get something to drop.
Totally agree.
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... woooo bitch about the items for you not dropping.. then bitch about the items not for you that you would want for future play styles not dropping when they fix the first grip.. the answer to your question.. which I am sure you already clearly know. is YES you must wear your gimped gear to get the better gear you want. at least you know exactly how to get what you want.. right? common mate. you want to use your best tanking gear and just get the best heal gear at the same time.. its progression.
You ok bro? sounds like you woke up on the wrong side of the bed this morning