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  • @gubfhidnom4714
    @gubfhidnom4714 ปีที่แล้ว +632

    Best manager I ever had was a medical dr before becoming a developer. His dedication to learning was incredible, barely a week would go by without him reading a new book or throwing together some code in a new pattern/library. Being able to be wrong is half the puzzle, being willing to dedicate time to practice and learning is the other half.

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +88

      love this

    • @ashrafibrahim3601
      @ashrafibrahim3601 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@ThePrimeTimeagen among us

    • @arthurdent8086
      @arthurdent8086 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Am a doc. Learning on our own is drilled into us from day zero. It probably didn't occur to him to do it any other way.

    • @KrisMeister
      @KrisMeister 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@arthurdent8086I feel that medical knowledge changes much less quickly than IT, plus official medical journals are responsible for distributing knowledge. In comparison programming is the Wild West, complete new technique and even language come along every 2-3 years.
      Do you feel Doctors update their knowledge as quickly as programmers do?

    • @skyhappy
      @skyhappy 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@arthurdent8086doubt it considering how many horror stories I've read of doctors misdiagnosing patients. Personal experience too. Anyone who's mean education is through The popular education system will not know how to do their jobs well is what I've come to conclude. I'm about to graduate in computer science and my hlgod my degree was useless because the professors are bad and this is a good uni.

  • @bigboxSWE
    @bigboxSWE ปีที่แล้ว +340

    I started with printing pyramids in Java too (that's why I put it there). 100% valid criticism and I love your takes. Thank you Prime.

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +126

      really??? DUDE!!!!!
      I hope you know i was not doing any sort of malice or ill-thought in any of my criticism more just pointing out the thought differences!
      btw, great video, really loved it

    • @bigboxSWE
      @bigboxSWE ปีที่แล้ว +64

      @@ThePrimeTimeagen nah of course, different approaches to the same outcome. I like your ways because they're more direct :) thank you so much

    • @astroorbis
      @astroorbis ปีที่แล้ว +6

      BIGBOOOOX
      love your stuff man

  • @vincentcjs
    @vincentcjs ปีที่แล้ว +357

    came for the jokes and memes, stayed for the life lessons
    thanks prime

  • @deado7282
    @deado7282 ปีที่แล้ว +279

    Im pretty sure Tom never looked dumb. Because Tom is a GENIUS!

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +78

      can't be dumb and a genius same time

    • @d1ngd0
      @d1ngd0 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Tom was actually the author of smarty. The templating language built in a templating language. Dude is a genius!

    • @OurGamingArchive
      @OurGamingArchive ปีที่แล้ว +5

      plot twist: JDSL is the genius and Tom is actually dumb.

    • @TrippLilley
      @TrippLilley ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThePrimeTimeagen Hold my beer...

    • @g.egziabher1522
      @g.egziabher1522 ปีที่แล้ว

      Tom is a brilliant idiot

  • @hotrodhunk7389
    @hotrodhunk7389 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I read a book called Good luck. In the book it describes the difference between regular luck and good luck. Good luck is when you do everything in your power to prepare yourself to be ready for when something lucky does happen. Regular luck it's just winning the lottery or some random occurrence.

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      this is a good way to say it

    • @10Kview
      @10Kview ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Luck favors the prepared…. And the willing

    • @rajaspoorna6405
      @rajaspoorna6405 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Based

  • @joshb.9380
    @joshb.9380 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Great video; just subbed you and bigbox both.
    I made a career transition to software development at 35 as a father of three small children and having never written a line of code in my life. “Drinking from a fire hose” was an apt description of my situation. I was used to always being an expert and a high-performer; now I was back to square one.
    I don’t think I ever really considered abandoning the pursuit, but I definitely was plagued by the feeling of not having the innate talent of some other developers as well as the hard truth that others had a massive head-start on me that I would likely never fully compensate for.
    Then I was driving down the road one day and saw a marquee that said “Comparison is the thief of joy.” First time I had ever seen the quote, and I was struck by how profoundly true that statement is. I didn’t need to compare my progress or even my ultimate destination with that of any other developer. Contentment (not the same as complacency) eventually came with respecting my efforts and the growing results.
    The other great point raised in this video is that you don’t have to make being a developer your entire identity and the sole focus of all your energy in life. Do your job, strive to always improve, but get on with the rest of your short life. Yes, you are going to lose out on prestigious and lucrative positions compared to more singularly driven developers, but then that means they deserve those positions more than you due to their dedication; you can’t have it all. Social media makes it easy to envy the notoriety and success of others without emphasizing the sacrifices it requires. Learn to accept that those sacrifices just might not be worth it to you. That’s not being a loser or underachiever, it’s understanding which priorities are yours and which are someone else’s.

  • @careymcmanus
    @careymcmanus ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Luck is a component but the way to get luck to work for you is to be ready to handle luck. Do stuff, make stuff! dont't worry what the product is just make stuff. Prime has his approach but that works for him but what ever works for you in terms of social stuff do it. One of the best things that I have learnt about about people in this field is that in general they are as awkward as you are.

  • @wtcxdm
    @wtcxdm ปีที่แล้ว +70

    80 hours a week is hard. And when you managed to do that for years, it's possible you will be in a better place, work or life. But whether you made it or not, there will be burnout...

    • @ea_naseer
      @ea_naseer ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I can't study more than 3 hours max 4 hours if I drink energy drink. How tf do people work 11 hours a day for 7 days how? what LSD do you guys smoke seriously I want it. eff burnout

    • @hippityhop9522
      @hippityhop9522 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ea_naseer Anxiety about my future is a strong motivator, at least for me.

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +108

      it took significant discipline. you are forgetting the time tested phrase of discipline is freedom
      my brother has been in and out of prison and he would say something EXTREMELY similar.
      "I cannot read or study for longer than X"
      I just NEVER believed him. i knew he could do more as i know you can do more. Well he got into some serious trouble and had to go to solitaire confinement. Guess what magic ability he got when he had no distractions? He read through like 17 books in a month. more than he has ever read and more than he will likely ever read because he is back to the "i can only read for X a day"
      subdue yourself, discipline is freedom

    • @yuriib5483
      @yuriib5483 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Hahaha 80 hours a week that’s the carrot you try to reach and then sorry promotion is not available. Keep on telling yourself that meritocracy exists. All you can do is get good on your own time and preferably during work hours and roll over to better place every 1.5-3 years

    • @dima1478
      @dima1478 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@yuriib5483 Damn might wanna improve your comprehention skills. By studying 80h he was ready for any opportunity, it does not have to be a promotion, but any opportunity. If tomorrow FAANG dm you, can you get the job? No? You missed your luck son

  • @sealsharp
    @sealsharp ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Bonuspoint to the "find communtities"-part. Do not join negative communities.
    Being critical is often wrongfully seen as being smart, so it is easy to find people on the internet that act smart by being super critical and its practically nothing but shitting on people, software, languages and everything else under the sun.

  • @SimGunther
    @SimGunther ปีที่แล้ว +11

    9:58 Finding that one thing for your job that you can go "Samurai mode" on is important, but it doesn't have to be software engineering.

  • @brandonw1604
    @brandonw1604 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Had this conversation with my wife today. I make 1/4 of what I used to and way less than friends, but I work from home and they don't care about my 2 and 4 year old being with me. Compensation isn't just money.

    • @perc-ai
      @perc-ai ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no bro you need a better job stop limiting your mind man there are other remote jobs that will do the same

    • @cl-7832
      @cl-7832 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@perc-ai you must not have children. His situation fits him. You find a situation that fits you.

  • @Kopraaaa
    @Kopraaaa ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Not just one of the best content creators in this niche, but we can also see a very very good person here. Keep it up.

  • @SzaboB33
    @SzaboB33 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "I don't care if the question is dumb, I care id it's lazy"
    I relate to this so much, I have so much patience for "dumb questions" that I have lack of patience when I get a lazy question and someone just wants the answer served to him on a silver plate by me.
    For dumb questions I switch to a patient teacher mode which is great for consulting, I have zero judgement for clients asking about things that are ultra basic knowledge for me, why should they have this knowledge? I actually judge people who judge people for that because it seems that they live in their own world which is way worse than not knowing some basic information in some niche trade :D
    I remember that in my 20s I sold watermelons at a market and man in his 60s asked in May if the melons were from the country. I said no, they will start to ripe in late June earliest or even July.
    The woman behind her waited for her turn and said "Is this guy living under a rock??? Wants to buy a watermelon from this country in May??". I did not react at all but I still judge her to this day ;-; I always say something about these people that "they are never right so they desperately try to grab every opportunity to be right"

  • @NoodleBerry
    @NoodleBerry 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I literally failed to implement a depth first search at a coding interview AND STILL GOT AN INTERNSHIP because I was the only candidate why actually demonstrated knowledge of C++

  • @principleshipcoleoid8095
    @principleshipcoleoid8095 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    2:06 your character is also luck. By the time you get to make choices, genes and childhood environment already got rid of most of the possible futures. You underestimate how important the cards delt are

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +15

      correct,
      sexually abused, physically abused, death of father at 7, effective latch-key kid, smoking pot at 8, meth at 18
      use your cards all you want or change your life
      my life change happened like a hurricane when i was 19, and i am nothing like who i was, at all.

    • @principleshipcoleoid8095
      @principleshipcoleoid8095 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Bayo106 some people will try hundreds of times untill they succeed, some will be discouraged after fifty fails. Some will win at the fifth try. Your genes and life experiences, both fairly random, made you who you are and defined the limits of what is possible. And that is true for every human. For some even a night of good sleep is beyond possible. But hey, he "should had chosen different parents", as the joke goes

    • @principleshipcoleoid8095
      @principleshipcoleoid8095 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThePrimeTimeagen Your skills, your character, your knowledge are the cards you got. I did not say you didn't play your cards right. I didn't say improvement is impossible. Merely that the options are limited by the time you get any real say in your future.

  • @cmelgarejo
    @cmelgarejo ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I was overemployed last year (2 gigs), now I'm unemployed for over 4 months because SVB bomb, and I'm trying to improve myself, I've been on no less than 60 interviews and rejected all of them.
    At first I was feeling depressed and now thanks to you @ThePrimeTimeagen I'm pumped to be even better than before, doing courses, using neovim instead of vscode (* spits *) and learning more go and rust and building stuff, to be the best version of myself. Ill get back up again very soon!

    • @MiguelPerez-em8gs
      @MiguelPerez-em8gs ปีที่แล้ว

      You will! ❤

    • @Dipj01
      @Dipj01 ปีที่แล้ว

      Man, at this point, try switching to trade or something. Software world is really bloated, and for every single position, there are like a thousand applicants.
      Hopefully you got that job though.

  • @banocean
    @banocean ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "If you're the smartest guy in the room you're propably in wrong room"

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i hate this quote

    • @hexagene
      @hexagene ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThePrimeTimeagen I strive to be the laziest, dumbest person I work with. Surround yourself with those better than you and you will get better.

  • @alanschmitt9865
    @alanschmitt9865 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Really uncomfortable with the idea that people should be putting in 80 hours a week on *work*.

    • @HikarusVibrator
      @HikarusVibrator 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What gave you this idea. No-one ever said that.

    • @professorrubickmagusgrandi7909
      @professorrubickmagusgrandi7909 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@HikarusVibrator at 1:50 he say's "Luck is not 80 hours a week for 4 years... You just need to get to the point that someone wants to hire you". Did you even watch the video?

    • @mateuszmazurczak1268
      @mateuszmazurczak1268 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I put a *doubt* on it honestly.
      80 hours a week is more than 10hours a day, working 7days without a break.
      You may be able to pull it once in a while, but your productivity after a week like that will be so low, that you will learn the same in 40 hours a week.
      So either those 80 hours are not productive and you fuck around or you work inefficiently/don't learn that much.
      Because I can do 80 hours of coding that is simple without learning now, but learning and deeply focusing for 80 hours? Not possible

  • @Rockyzach88
    @Rockyzach88 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, researching your question before you ask is very good advice. Make sure your question shows that you have already looked into it. People like that a lot.

  • @NullPointer871ICant
    @NullPointer871ICant 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Thank you both Prime and BigBox. After several years in the field I think I'm dealing with anxiety myself. Hope I can do better.

  • @samuelayomide3709
    @samuelayomide3709 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never stop Primeagen. Your content really inspires me as a junior software engineer. Thank you!

  • @valentinrafael9201
    @valentinrafael9201 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    18:45 very true. Looking “stupid” makes people want to approach you tbh when you are sincere and hard working. Being annoying, on the other hand, and asking questions that literally show you did 0 research for the problem you encountered ONE SECOND AGO, and then you repeat this behavior over and over, yeah, that’s annoying af.

  • @linkachu0093
    @linkachu0093 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    While I agree with the general idea that hard work and discipline is a good life goal, there is absolutely a cap. You can’t dump 80 hours a week into a pursuit without significant sacrifice in other areas. Expecting this sort of workload from others is unrealistic, even harmful.

  • @IvanOdintsoff
    @IvanOdintsoff ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Yeah, I know you work hard but you were also lucky. I changed jobs and always boiled down to the same thing (webforms and old malformed stuff with no senior to guide me). And I work since 2007.

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      luck is getting to the door
      preparation was what got me through the door

    • @terrormapu
      @terrormapu ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great you got to the door

    • @IvanOdintsoff
      @IvanOdintsoff ปีที่แล้ว

      At this point I'm trying to make my own door 😂

    • @mitrichaka11
      @mitrichaka11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You are not supposed to touch the door.
      Tom.

    • @IvanOdintsoff
      @IvanOdintsoff ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bayo106 Not so easy as it sounds

  • @morgengabe1
    @morgengabe1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It is luck. If you don't do that much you'll have covariantly lower luck.
    it's not to trivialize, but to show that within reason, we can make our own luck.

  • @benfurstenwerth
    @benfurstenwerth ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I code just as much outside of work as I do at work most of the time. I do it because I absolutely love creating things and I love making software. I am 100% still going to write code every day even if AI replaced every job available. I've been doing it for 13 years professionally and love it even more.
    I could never just 9-5 it.

  • @nate_wil
    @nate_wil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7:35 prime's been WFH for so long he's forgotten to tell people to wear underwear and pants!
    WEAR PANTS PEOPLE!

  • @TheeRebel
    @TheeRebel ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I entered a coding course got accepted and have been watching your videos. You are a big help when it comes to navigating a new career and hobby. Just sending positive words! Looks like I’m a subscriber now 😎

  • @LooMystery
    @LooMystery ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got into tech industry for half a year. This video accurately describes how I feel in my current job. Thank you so much for the advice man.

  • @GeneraluStelaru
    @GeneraluStelaru ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I fell in love with programming when I first started coding. I used to code 7 days a week besides my non-coding dayjob. But now I'm a year into my developer career and I can't wait to clock out. I don't know what it is. I'm having a hard time understanding the architecture necessary to complete my tasks, I'm constantly short of necessary information and all I seem to do is pass data around in one way or another. That's fine I guess, but now I can barely raise my interest to code anything besides work. What's wrong with me?

    • @random_bit
      @random_bit ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Absolutely nothing, your job sucks (just like mine), there's a lack of clear documentation and now you're dejected because you have no incentive to care because you know your job isn't worth the effort.

    • @kicknate195
      @kicknate195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It sounds like you're burnt out. Please take care of yourself. It only gets worse if you don't ❤ you could need a new job or interest or who know what's. That's what you need to figure out. Time to do the inner work to understand yourself and your needs deeper 😊

  • @cxngo8124
    @cxngo8124 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I just do my own thing. Experiment with everything I learn. Take my time to understand each concept properly. I'm not falling behind because I'm on a different path.

  • @UnstoppablePig
    @UnstoppablePig ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I needed to see this man. Glad I discovered you on Tiktok!

  • @liampugh4705
    @liampugh4705 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There's nothing more anxiety inducing in software development than posting a question on stack overflow

  • @digitalnorth
    @digitalnorth ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I just started as a professional developer in March this year ( 😢 angular and spring boot) , I think the people who work very hard to get into fang and be the best deserve it 100% and there is nothing wrong with it. The problem arises when a small percentage of them show elitism and act like they are the cavalry among foot soldiers , thats where the negativity starts and I feel dumb

    • @Fernando-ry5qt
      @Fernando-ry5qt ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Meh, just show them a picture of you doing anything else not techy and they will subdue, their whole life revolves around programming, they gotta be proud about it, else they have nothing.

  • @stars2oo5
    @stars2oo5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "If you use copilot, you create dumb code faster." had a really good laugh, thank you

  • @pranavbadrinathan6693
    @pranavbadrinathan6693 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Prime? Bullied and Nervous? Wow never would have guessed. Good on you man for turning that around and facing your fears. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽.

  • @MasonSchmidgall
    @MasonSchmidgall ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I know for a fact that Tom (a genius) doesn't need luck

  • @CR3271
    @CR3271 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Two more things about "dumb" questions... (1.) You're self-conscious over your lack of experience but the people you're asking understand it's lack of experience and they don't think you're an idiot, (2.) Ask a question and you may find out 10 other people are struggling with the same thing. Then you go from feeling dumb to realizing the code base is just that difficult.

  • @Nate77HK
    @Nate77HK ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The problem with 'It's just a job' approach is that corporations aer too busy chopping wood to sharpen the axe.
    They won't train you in your 9-5 on the skills and technology that you need to even stay relevant in that corporation. Six years go by, they might just hire some other dude who is hip and cool and you won't know the new technology in the industry.
    The solution is, of course, to learn COBOL or FORTRAN

  • @0xabdrahim
    @0xabdrahim ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "the way to be better programmer is being bad programmer " i like it

  • @darkdudironaji
    @darkdudironaji ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:50 whenever somebody tells me that something only happened because a person was lucky and it couldn't happen for me, I reply with "luck only finds the people who seek it."

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      its also fairly demeaning

    • @darkdudironaji
      @darkdudironaji ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ThePrimeTimeagen I understand your point, but I have no dignity to lose. 😎

    • @darkdudironaji
      @darkdudironaji ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Bayo106 I understood that. Demeaning means to cause someone to lose their dignity.

  • @luisalejandroquirogagomez1721
    @luisalejandroquirogagomez1721 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    It's not just luck, but it's a big part of it. I would say 60/40, even maybe 50/50.
    It's good to know this, because sometimes even when you try your hardest, things won't go as planned.
    If hard work pays off, show me a rich donkey.

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +5

      i would never say 50/50
      but i also don't live everywhere in the world or have the same experience.
      in the US it most certainly isn't 50/50

    • @luisalejandroquirogagomez1721
      @luisalejandroquirogagomez1721 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ThePrimeTimeagen Yes! I can say this is very... empiric. Some people may say more, others may say less. But at the end, we don't have to think about things as much. Veritasium has an excellent video about this.

  • @DisFunctor
    @DisFunctor ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perfectionism made me a non-starter for many years... I kept putting things off until I thought maybe I'd do them perfectly right off the bat, but that's an unrealistic expectation to have. I only recently started contributing to open source projects and building my own personal projects in my spare time because I finally accepted the fact that first time I do anything it's gonna be difficult and the result is probably gonna suck. It's just a fact. But the only way to get better is by doing, so there you go. Do not focus so much on the end result and learn to enjoy the process and go build, create, and do stuff.

  • @Tobsson
    @Tobsson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm super stupid. If I stare at my code for to long and just dont see what I missed. I ask someone. That action in itself usually elevate me to super sight and instantly seeing what I did.
    So I am stupid, then look stupid and then act stupid. In that order.

  • @thebandwagoneffect
    @thebandwagoneffect ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This video came at a perfect time for me personally. Thanks Prime.

  • @y-yyy
    @y-yyy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    10:46 My beef is, "I just want to work 9 to 5" != "I don't find any joy in The Art of Programming". You can love and enjoy your job BUT ALSO love other things in life. If you already spend 40 hours a week coding (which is really already a huge chunk of your life and probably more time than you spend on anything else except sleep), why is it weird to ALSO want to do other things that you also love, enjoy, find challenging, find fulfilling? I want to have space for more things than just programming in my life, but I still love programming. I'm fine with never becoming a 100x Google 500k/year gigachad, as long as I can still continue bringing value to the world, enjoying my job and, perhaps most importantly, enjoying my life away from computer screen as well.

  • @nomadshiba
    @nomadshiba ปีที่แล้ว +1

    7:25 i also wasnt social at all too, mostly shy, but online i learned how to be social, how to talk, make jokes mostly
    then i applied and converted it being social in real life and it really changed me

  • @bobolishis7
    @bobolishis7 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Yes, that is luck. Luck is where time in place, time inverted in skill meet serendipity. Like you have no control if a CEO starts a project, all you can do is have the skills that may be called upon. That is luck, that is, serendipity. The EGO will see it differently, but know luck is part of any journey.

  • @AizakkuZ
    @AizakkuZ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hmm, I feel as though it is definitely 80% luck, 20% skill.
    These numbers are arbitrary regardless but, of course it will take skill to get somewhere so that is required.
    But it’s not a full split because you can work your ass off for years and still not get anywhere, the luck comes when you are pushed in the right direction to do a specific thing and the skill comes from the journey of basically pain LOL that allowed you to easily get pushed into that direction, then fully see it through.
    The 80/20 split also isn’t inverse because you need more luck and available opportunity than skill.
    Certain opportunities are mostly coincidental but when I see people who think they just out worked everyone or they are just extremely inherently exceptional it’s kind of cringe because yes you worked hard.
    But, what led you to the opportunity that you moved forward with and blew out of the park? Because yes your tenacity and everything else allowed you to effectively ace that interview process, initial work assignment, etc.
    But, that whole I just worked harder notion plays into survivorship bias and is in reality kind of fictitious.

  • @istovall2624
    @istovall2624 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I remember staying up till midnight and falling asleep day after day night after night watching kudvenkat on youtube learning aspx web dev and then finally landed a dev job at back ground checks. They hired me at sr and it was a shit show bc I knew so little. But it started me off on the best career there is. Anxiety.... no. Imposter syndrome maybe. I don't understand why people think there is so finish line to learning. It's endless.

    • @ThePrimeTimeagen
      @ThePrimeTimeagen  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      there never is a finish line and that is a good thing

    • @technologyondemand4538
      @technologyondemand4538 ปีที่แล้ว

      yup, there is always more to learn. from learning comes knowledge, from knowledge comes potential, from potential comes experience, from experience comes understanding, and from understanding comes creation. keep learning but remember to integrate and to teach so that you can understand the content and context but that you can also share your understanding with others.

  • @dadbod591
    @dadbod591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for sharing stuff like this on your platform. I'm an early career mentor for software engineers and self confidence is such a common issue holding people back, and encouraging people and helping them go out of their comfort zone is a great thing.

  • @AntonKronaj
    @AntonKronaj ปีที่แล้ว

    Spot on. “Take a moment to research” I love it. Makes for a better conversation when we do ask for help.

  • @JoseTrigueros
    @JoseTrigueros ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "opportunity meets preparation, that's what luck is" well said king, no such thing as luck

  • @adamschneider868
    @adamschneider868 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't seek comfort. I seek the ability to put my efforts towards the struggle I choose.

  • @pieterrossouw8596
    @pieterrossouw8596 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lots of Devs just really struggle with the difference between the work and the job. If you love coding and geek out about techy stuff and how abstract little things about a language or system works - you're doing the work right. The job, is different, that's managing the balances/tradeoffs between systems, clients, teams and business - you can learn to be good at that too. Rarely people love both. I often feel like the job is getting in the way of the work but there is no work without the job unfortunately. Just make sure you're doing *your* job.

  • @Zjk580
    @Zjk580 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1:59 thank you buddy. “Tell’m McCluski tell what time it is” - RDJ tropic thunder.

  • @shapelessed
    @shapelessed 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A good rule of thumb - Whenever you see somebody living their best life on social media, it is literally always a facade.
    Would you share your hard moments with the world? Hell no. So always think, whatever they're showing you, it's a blissful needle in a haystack of their problems.

  • @jeffreyhymas6803
    @jeffreyhymas6803 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The balance between being technically independent and going as far as you can on your own but still knowing when it's time to ask for help is a tough one. Ask for help too quick and you look lazy, get too stubborn about it and you just waste time.

  • @sanjarcode
    @sanjarcode ปีที่แล้ว

    They say "know when to speak, and when to stay silent". This is also true for listening, know when to be deaf/ignorant.

  • @drewpirrone-brusse563
    @drewpirrone-brusse563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I got caught on your little tangent about one-page resumes. That has been my philosophy for a *long* time, but I feel like that advice has aged out in the past couple years. I and a bunch of my cohort are in the market for new positions, and they're all throwing around three or four page resumes. Like, half a page of 'skills and languages' type stuff, keywords and trendy topics. Very clearly SEO for resumes. One of them even wrote, on their resume, "This is to get around filters, humans don't need to read this part," and they got an interview, and they were *thanked for including that line*.
    Has anyone else been seeing this in the industry?

    • @anastasiat1481
      @anastasiat1481 หลายเดือนก่อน

      how do they know what will pass through the filter?

  • @marcusrehn6915
    @marcusrehn6915 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I used to know the javascript prototype model so well, now there is not much reason to know it any more.While I dont remember much, dont regret learning it tho

  • @testolog
    @testolog ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So, let me share my story. After transitioning from PHP to Java, I went from a mid-level to a junior position in 2013. I had been a student of applied mathematics for four years, although I wasn't the best student, having a job was a positive aspect. Seeking change, I saw Java as a good alternative to becoming a real software engineer. I applied for a junior Java position at a large tech company, and they informed me that completing their Java school was mandatory for all junior hires. They also mentioned the possibility of losing the position if I failed anything.
    Now, I want to explain the situation in my country, Ukraine. In 2013 and 2014, we experienced a revolution against a corrupt president and government, who also aimed for deep integration with Russia, which we disagreed with. The initial protesters were students, and I was part of it in my city. In November 2013, the government decided to suppress the protests using special forces, targeting us, the students. Unfortunately, they succeeded, and many students were captured or injured with broken bones. However, the next day, the entire city of Kiev rose up and demanded the government's departure. This marked the beginning of a revolution. You can find videos from that period by searching on TH-cam for "War zone in Kiev: Violence rages as protesters throw petrol bombs at police."
    After our success and the president fleeing to Russia with the government, Russia initiated an invasion of Ukraine. They first occupied Crimea and then destabilised the eastern regions. They succeeded in Donetsk and Luhansk, but failed in cities like Odessa or Kharkiv. The war began with heavy weaponry such as tanks, artillery, and fighter jets. Due to my military background, I was called to serve in the army, which caused issues with my university because I was already a poor student. Furthermore, losing my university meant losing the protections from the army and a place to live (hostel). So, I decided to dedicate all my time to the junior school to secure a job. However, in a country at war, there were more limitations on hiring from the school, resulting in only 10(was 20) out of 120 candidates being selected. I managed to pass with a significant setback. I wasn't stable in the company, and I lacked English language skills. I lost my place to live and had to borrow money from friends just to get by. Fortunately, luck was on my side, and I landed a big data project. Out of the initial 10 selected, only 6 made it through the internal interviews. I joined a project with a Canadian team, where daily stand-ups were conducted, even though I had no English proficiency. I accumulated significant debts and struggled to afford food. I dedicated all my free time to development, aiming to gain extensive knowledge whenever possible.
    After a year of a challenging life, I paid off all my debts and found a new place to live. However, I had become a person with poor soft skills, always angry and frequently late for work, among other shortcomings. Now, with 9 years of experience in big data and 11 years in the IT industry, I face new challenges, similar to those I encountered at the beginning. Yet, I no longer possess the fresh mindset I had initially. I'm now contemplating whether before switch careers to farming I should accumulate money, as everything I've earned has been spent supporting the Ukrainian military. I'm exhausted.

    • @testolog
      @testolog ปีที่แล้ว

      I also haven't completed my education as I had to make a choice between having a job or pursuing further education. I chose to prioritize getting a job because succeeding would provide me with a chance to improve my life. In the event of failure, I was willing to join the army.

    • @testolog
      @testolog ปีที่แล้ว

      Also i was dumb today also i'm dumb but older

    • @random_bit
      @random_bit ปีที่แล้ว

      Slava Ukraine!

    • @testolog
      @testolog ปีที่แล้ว

      @@random_bit Heroyam Slava

  • @saniel2748
    @saniel2748 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don't agree with being dumb part. Being dumb is being someone like Tom (who's actually a genius), or applying for senior role after just graduating or something (unless you're a genius)
    I think idea that not knowning something is being dumb is rather unhelpful and throws insult at a person for no good reason at all. If you don't know something that's fine, if you did something dumb it doesn't necessarily means you are a dumb person
    The only time I do call myself an іdіоt is when I continuously get something wrong for no reason at all. Like when I'm playing an online game and do the wrong move 5 times in a row, such behaviour is stupid because I fail to learn from mistake I did literally a second ago.

  • @mplovecraft
    @mplovecraft ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Luck is absolutely a huge factor - in both directions. However, it doesn't serve you to see yourself as a victim or not to be willing to put in whatever work it takes to get where you want. So, for your own sake and your own mentality it is better to not to think too much about it. When viewing other's however, I think it is unfair not to acknowledge that some people had a lot of bad luck (and others were lucky) and don't necessarily deserve to be where they are.

  • @alexdegaston422
    @alexdegaston422 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oftentimes a good programmer will look at an issue from lots of angles and still be stuck. Then they'll get a second set of eyes on the issue and they'll discover that the issue was actually quite simple to solve. It's not that they were lazy or stupid. It's just that they got nearsightedness and thus missed the obvious issue.

  • @Vexen89
    @Vexen89 ปีที่แล้ว

    I lurk and learn quietly... Being social in literally any medium is my greatest weakness.

  • @EricLS
    @EricLS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So, “looking dumb” is actually a way to look smart. If you are extremely confident in your cluelessness, and proclaim how clueless you are while very clearly putting your all into solving a problem, people will instantly recognize what is happening. They will see that you are willing and even excited to hear what they have to say, and that you are well on your way to being on their level. However, if you fail to learn what you were taught and keep asking it over and over, that’s where the problem comes in. A few times is fine, some stuff is just intermittent enough and tangential to the main focus that it’s easy to get it mixed up. But you ask a 5th time, and show no awareness that you are just having someone else do your job, yeah, NOW you look dumb.

  • @mydadletsmeshootatcats6754
    @mydadletsmeshootatcats6754 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd much rather work with someone who asks lots of questions than someone who pretends to know everything when they don't.

  • @drxyd
    @drxyd ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tom was scared to look dumb, that's how he became a genius.

  • @DemiLuna5E
    @DemiLuna5E ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really lean into the "just do it" mentality. First was a pyramid in java? My first thing was a random character generator in c++ made only with if statements. Don't shy from the cringe, post it on the fridge.

  • @sashoelectrodriver
    @sashoelectrodriver 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tend to agree with your take that when preparation meets opportunity that is luck, cause the alternative like not being prepared no matter the opportunity the outcome will not be good. Then again I always remember this one,
    Aristotle Onassis: “I guess the kid had everything but the luck.
    I think luck plays a very big role you just have to think a little outside of the frame of “prepared + opportunity”
    Then there that Chinese wisdom
    “Maybe so, maybe not. We'll see.”
    So when you think about it from that perspective, yeah you are lucky, and smart enough to realize it.

  • @michaelkroupa6996
    @michaelkroupa6996 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love to be self ironic, but I think its not about "Being dump 2 Weeks ago" it's rather "Knowing the Issue better now, two weeks after, and maybe have other ideas how to takle it" :)

  • @christopherwood12
    @christopherwood12 27 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I can understand your view, that was my experience in it. I pivoted to software dev and I’m being ffed in the a

  • @stanrock8015
    @stanrock8015 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Preach! Best video I’ve seen you do

  • @nathanaelguirguis7886
    @nathanaelguirguis7886 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Primagen quoting cs lewis now ive heard it all

  • @everenjohn
    @everenjohn ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got laid off, and your videos comfort me.

  • @WillEhrendreich
    @WillEhrendreich ปีที่แล้ว +1

    C. S. Lewis is the man, seriously. I want him and John Lennox to be my grandpa. Lennox, who was actually a student of Lewis at Oxford, is still alive, and is an absolute badass, and I love listening to him basically about any damn thing you could think of.

    • @WillEhrendreich
      @WillEhrendreich ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually I think it was Cambridge, lol.

  • @stevecrabtree9141
    @stevecrabtree9141 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good call. Was T. Roosevelt that said Comparison is the thief of joy

  • @michaeljmeyer3
    @michaeljmeyer3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, my 13 page resume has not failed me in nearly two decades. Though, I have often utilized recruiters and networking rather than cold submittals.
    I did recently, finally, give the darn thing some attention and paired it down to 3 pages. Not because I had to. But because I wanted to. 😂

  • @jasonandres2917
    @jasonandres2917 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "There are no dumb questions, but there are obvious ones" - Me

  • @khps9176
    @khps9176 ปีที่แล้ว

    "No one enjoys pain. But whom can judge the man that willingy endure pain for the greater pleassures?" Lorem Ipsum, every developer know this line..

  • @bluedevilbball4life
    @bluedevilbball4life 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    s/o to saltypretzel with the “developers developers developers developers” comment around the three minute mark needed that today 😂😂

  • @osW1zard
    @osW1zard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Any tips on how to keep up a relationship when hustling and honing your skills 80hrs/week ?

  • @joshuaworman4022
    @joshuaworman4022 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I didnt have anxiety until he said 80 hours a week.

  • @caelim3524
    @caelim3524 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the positive only updates is why i love i following peoples private instagrams because i get to see them just be a fucking mess and it makes me feel better because hey at least i’m not posting that on instagram

  • @_idiot
    @_idiot ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you're a good father and father figure, mike.

  • @connorskudlarek8598
    @connorskudlarek8598 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "It's ok to look dumb"-every practicing dev has, at some point, found the dumbest most frustrating code/bug they've seen in months, looked at who committed it... and it's themselves.
    It is indeed ok to look dumb.

  • @FireDragon91245
    @FireDragon91245 ปีที่แล้ว

    you are my favorite creator just to listen to while working

  • @gwaptiva
    @gwaptiva 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When I was young, PRG was popular :( Thanks for this one, Mr Time. I made the mistake of making my hobby into my job, and forgot to add a new hobby. And btw: the dumbest programmer I ever encountered was the one that only ever asked where we were going for lunch

  • @Christian-nc4gd
    @Christian-nc4gd ปีที่แล้ว

    hilarious takes. Thanks for the chuckles

  • @PorthoGamesBR
    @PorthoGamesBR ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When should i stop going downwards in the abstraction study? Like, i understand the basics of programming, data structures, algorithms and all, but now i want to understand why every concept of the programming languages i use exist. What was the necessity in C that created Javascript, and what necessity in Js that created React.
    My goal is just to be capable of programming usefull things, but i feel like i have a big knowledge gap and i dont know the size of this gap

  • @jangavlik6466
    @jangavlik6466 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    shees I also started with pyramid in java, It is the assigment in the CS106A by standford

  • @Lazlo-os1pu
    @Lazlo-os1pu 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4:54 surely his suggestion goes against the entire point of “don’t wait to be good enough to start doing something”. If you want to do TH-cam, then start doing TH-cam. Messing around with blog posting / medium if you really want to do TH-cam, then you’re just wasting time. This whole thing of “maybe x would be too overwhelming” could go on forever. As prime said just face your fears head on.

  • @GuhNashty
    @GuhNashty 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The "blog on medium" reaction SENT me 😂😂😂

  • @Muaahaa
    @Muaahaa ปีที่แล้ว

    Luck usually amounts to getting opportunities, but it takes your own will and effort to take advantage of those opportunities. And the more you develop yourself and achieve financial freedom the more opportunities will generally come your way.

  • @oligreenfield1537
    @oligreenfield1537 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's 48% luck, 51% social intelligence and one 1% work. You can work as hard than you want if you don't have any lucky encounter you will stay in the bottom or if your social inept.
    Working 80hours an week if you are not owning the business you are into IS BEYOND STUPIDITY
    I have and had a great jobs in carrier field I chose to be:
    -1 - because I have the minimum skill set to do the job
    -2 - because I'm good to selling myself

  • @AbdoAzmy2005
    @AbdoAzmy2005 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a nice turn from LSD to LSP, crazy drugs

  • @ArmenBrass
    @ArmenBrass ปีที่แล้ว

    Luck is opportunity meets preparation. Totally agree

  • @cyan2910
    @cyan2910 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:50 i wore a jacket all thorough middleschool and highschool because of this fear. I was still very social, but just a bit self conscious

  • @therealestsnake
    @therealestsnake ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That dumb vs lazy question thing really resonates with me because I'm dealing with junior devs that ask me questions that may be dumb, but get me annoyed that the question is lazy (could have been googled, or literally any independent effort to fix). I don't know if they are actually asking lazy questions because to me, they seem lazy. But is this solely because they truly don't know anything? I don't know, but I always answer their questions anyways. Is it that I answer too quickly that I'm more practical than googling? I have no idea.